Post by: Cayo Hueso on December 04, 2003, 05:55:00 PM
The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this.
--Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
Post by: Black Gay Jew on December 04, 2003, 10:49:00 PM
Then again, he's only cheating with me and he's the bitch, of course. Right sweetcheeks?
I think I'm done too. I have more important things to do and a Happy Hanukkah to enjoy. Merry Christmas to the Gentiles.
Post by: Antigen on December 05, 2003, 07:26:00 PM
And here's what he wishes he looked like:
Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.
--Mark Twain
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Post by: Black Gay Jew on December 06, 2003, 11:11:00 AM
I love the Internet.
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Post by: Paul St. John on December 06, 2003, 01:43:00 PM
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On 2003-12-04 19:49:00, Black Gay Jew wrote:
"Nazi probably got scared that he would receive more criticism on his pic. So instead, he is going out tonight to cheat on his wife. nice, real sweet.
Well now, I am of the male persuasion, but since his pic has been up on the site, it hasn t recieved many insults to my knowledge.
I seem to recall "Antigen" saying that Nazi's father must have had good genes. LOL
Then again, he's only cheating with me and he's the bitch, of course. Right sweetcheeks?
Okay.. Dickhead.. You are going on about how you would like to have an affair with Nazi.
Hmm.. I would that YOU ARE CLEARLY THE BITCH, and there really is no denying that.
I think I'm done too. I have more important things to do and a Happy Hanukkah to enjoy. Merry Christmas to the Gentiles."
Well, I would seriously hope that you have more important thing s to do.. I am posting right now, thinking that this is one of the stupidest things I have ever done.
Post by: Antigen on December 06, 2003, 01:48:00 PM
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On 2003-12-06 10:43:00, Paul St. John wrote:
I seem to recall "Antigen" saying that Nazi's father must have had good genes. LOL
Um, I really don't recall saying that. I don't think he's a really bad looking guy if that photo was for real. But looks ain't everything.
Life is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous
Post by: Paul St. John on December 06, 2003, 02:00:00 PM
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On 2003-12-06 10:48:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2003-12-06 10:43:00, Paul St. John wrote:
I seem to recall "Antigen" saying that Nazi's father must have had good genes. LOL
Um, I really don't recall saying that. I don't think he's a really bad looking guy if that photo was for real.
He's also not a really bad guy in general.
Hell, Ginger, if you had your choiceof hanging out for a night with nazi or "Gay Black Jew", who would you hang with?
Being that that crazy fuck goes around posting uder the alias " Nazi" LMAO!.. It is amazing people haven t fucked with him before.. But it s just an identity trip.
He is more a contributor to these sites then most, and he's a cool dude. You can talk to him for hours, and he won t say a fucking racist thing.
But looks ain't everything.
Noone said they were.. The attacks on Nazi however began on his looks.. The post was called
" Nazi is so ugly", or some stupid shit, like that.
It's stupid shit. The only reason he is being fucked with, is because of the precense he has in the Elan-Internet community at this time.
I am not gonna be lost on the issues. He calls himslef as a "Nazi" which I consider idiotic. He always has. This is nothing new.
He has my support.
Paul St. JohnLife is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous
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Post by: Antigen on December 06, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2003, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: Froderik on December 06, 2003, 03:15:00 PM
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Like I've said often enough before, I'm right with ya' as regards contempt for niggers. But, as is so often the case, this one is white and doesn't know he's a nigger.
Damn Ginger, I would never have taken YOU for a bigot...please tell me I'm missing something here...like, were you just quoting Nazi there?
Post by: Antigen on December 06, 2003, 03:28:00 PM
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Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1661
a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
Did you mean racist? I'm not really that either. I hate white niggers as much as those of any other color. And it seems to me that the ratio or niggers to decent people is usually about the same in any demographic.
Nazi's a nigger, in my view, because he thinks he's got some kind of birthright to be a total asshole to everybody and to demand entitlement or expect solidarity because his immediate ancestors are not quite as dark as some folks. He seems to have no concept of earned respect or living with dignity. He expects special treatment and consideration for his allegedly superieor genes; something he had nothing to do with.
Honestly, I don't know why anybody's falling for it.
Locate the blind spot in the culture--the place where the culture isn't looking, because it dare not--because if it were to look there, its previous values would dissolve.
Anonymity Anonymous (http://fornits.com/anonanon)
Post by: Froderik on December 06, 2003, 03:39:00 PM
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Did you mean racist? I'm not really that either. I hate white niggers as much as those of any other color.
Well that's good, I guess. Just my 2¢ here - if I were you, I wouldn't be quite so liberal with the use of that word. Colored folks might be offended by that. :lol:
Post by: Antigen on December 06, 2003, 03:55:00 PM
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-- Benjamin Franklin
_________________
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American drug war P.O.W.
10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
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Post by: Nazi on December 06, 2003, 06:36:00 PM
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On 2003-12-06 11:00:00, Paul St. John wrote:
"Quote"
On 2003-12-06 10:48:00, Antigen wrote:
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On 2003-12-06 10:43:00, Paul St. John wrote:
I seem to recall "Antigen" saying that Nazi's father must have had good genes. LOL
Um, I really don't recall saying that. I don't think he's a really bad looking guy if that photo was for real.
He's also not a really bad guy in general.
Hell, Ginger, if you had your choiceof hanging out for a night with nazi or "Gay Black Jew", who would you hang with?
Being that that crazy fuck goes around posting uder the alias " Nazi" LMAO!.. It is amazing people haven t fucked with him before.. But it s just an identity trip.
He is more a contributor to these sites then most, and he's a cool dude. You can talk to him for hours, and he won t say a fucking racist thing.
But looks ain't everything.
Noone said they were.. The attacks on Nazi however began on his looks.. The post was called
" Nazi is so ugly", or some stupid shit, like that.
It's stupid shit. The only reason he is being fucked with, is because of the precense he has in the Elan-Internet community at this time.
I am not gonna be lost on the issues. He calls himslef as a "Nazi" which I consider idiotic. He always has. This is nothing new.
He has my support.
Paul St. JohnLife is like a shit sandwich; the more bread you got, the less shit you gotta eat.
--Anonymous
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Hey Paul you gave me that nick name. I just created it.Welcome back Paul, hope you're feeling a little better.
Post by: Nazi on December 06, 2003, 06:38:00 PM
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On 2003-12-06 11:37:00, Antigen wrote:
"Paul, you must be joking. I'd far rather go hang with the big gay black jew than w/ Nazi. I chatted w/ Nazi for all of about 20 min and he managed to insult me by gender, try and work a classic entitlement scam on me; i.e. "I made these forums what they are, you owe me moderator rights!" So I told him to go panhandle somewhere else, to which he replied "But I'm white and I make piles of money. :nworthy:To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.
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First of all Ginger I was kidding around eith you, and you should'nt talk anyway, I've seen your pic, you are far from an attractive individual, you look something straight out of a trailor park.
Post by: Nazi on December 06, 2003, 06:41:00 PM
Post by: Bellis on December 06, 2003, 07:17:00 PM
Beauty is only skin deep, but stupid is to the bone.
Post by: Antigen on December 06, 2003, 07:20:00 PM
Know me well
All the rest
Can go to hell
Our Constitution is in actual operation; everything appears to promise that it will last; but in this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.
Ben Franklin Letter to M. Leroy, 1789.
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Post by: Paul St. John on December 06, 2003, 10:45:00 PM
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On 2003-12-06 11:37:00, Antigen wrote:
"Paul, you must be joking.
Of course, I am not joking. is it that suprising that I owuld defend my friend?
I'd far rather go hang with the big gay black jew than w/ Nazi.
NOT ME!!!!! LMAO!!!
I chatted w/ Nazi for all of about 20 min and he managed to insult me by gender, try and work a classic entitlement scam on me; i.e. "I made these forums what they are, you owe me moderator rights!" So I told him to go panhandle somewhere else, to which he replied "But I'm white and I make piles of money. :nworthy:To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.
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Post by: Froderik on December 06, 2003, 10:58:00 PM
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Post by: Paul St. John on December 06, 2003, 11:14:00 PM
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On 2003-12-06 19:55:00, Anonymous wrote:
"three on one and what is your problem with Blacks, Gays, or Jews?"
Don't pull that racist card on me, asshole. I live in a neighborhood, and in a building where it is more then 80% jews, and I get along just fine with all of them. Many are my friends.
I also work in Jewish neighborhoods. Jews are my favorite people to work for. They practice accountability, and keep everything clean cut.
Next on your list.. Blacks
Again, I have no problem with blacks, and for the most part get along with them as well, as anyone else. In high school, I mostly hung wuth blacks, cause most of the whites were pussies at a particular school I went to.
and last, but not least.. Gays..
Ummm.. I can take it 'em or leave 'em. I woyuld defend a gay guy, if necessary, and for the most part have no problem with them, and even have one acqauaintace who is bi, and he's a pretty cool guy, but generally it is not the comapany I choose to keep.
We relate in not too many areas.
three on one
I think I counted at least 4. No matter.. It is now three, on two!
Paul
Post by: Antigen on December 06, 2003, 11:20:00 PM
It's not so much about being literate or not. I've met extremely literate niggers. In fact, I'd say a majority of the education establishment probably could fit that description. And I've met functionally illiterate people with as much good character and horse sense as you can hope for and more than anyone should expect.
Now, I'll defend anybody's right to say whatever they like. But you're actually taking heat to defend the character of this guy who's gone out of his way to try and piss off everybody he can. He's crying victim and you're buying it.
You, friend, have been panhandled :exclaim:
India Indicas, Mr. Peabody?
-- Sherman
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American drug war P.O.W.
10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous
Post by: Anonymous on December 06, 2003, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: Paul St. John on December 06, 2003, 11:31:00 PM
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On 2003-12-06 20:20:00, Antigen wrote:
"We must be working from different definitions. To me, a nigger is someone who will try every angle to trick, guilt trip or bully people into doing what they want before they'll even consider going to the trouble of doing it themselves.
I know what a nigger is. There were also a lot of them in my high school..
A nigger is a nigger.. not someonbe who is predominantly a good guy, and may have displayed some nigger-like qualities in a particular IM conversation.
It's not so much about being literate or not. I've met extremely literate niggers. In fact, I'd say a majority of the education establishment probably could fit that description.
And I've met functionally illiterate people with as much good character and horse sense as you can hope for and more than anyone should expect.
A point of agreement. I have as well. Literacy, is of course still a virture for what it is worth to the discussion.
Now, I'll defend anybody's right to say whatever they like. But you're actually taking heat
Ginger.. Do you really think that I consider this taking heat? LOL
to defend the character of this guy who's gone out of his way to try and piss off everybody he can.
He's gone out of his way to entertain moreso then piss people off.
He's crying victim and you're buying it.
He's not crying victim. He wants to win. I am helping him do that. He will do that, and everyone including him will be seceral lessons richer, and perhaps, this fprum can move onto something more productive, then using a whole site in an attempt to destroy one guy
You, friend, have been panhandled :exclaim:
I see where you are coming from with this, but I am fully aware, and self-motivated.
India Indicas, Mr. Peabody?
-- Sherman
_________________
Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American drug war P.O.W.
10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous"
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Post by: Froderik on December 06, 2003, 11:45:00 PM
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We must be working from different definitions. To me, a nigger is someone who will try every angle to trick, guilt trip or bully people into doing what they want before they'll even consider going to the trouble of doing it themselves.All very good points. Especially about the literacy thing. Makes you think...
It's not so much about being literate or not. I've met extremely literate niggers. In fact, I'd say a majority of the education establishment probably could fit that description. And I've met functionally illiterate people with as much good character and horse sense as you can hope for and more than anyone should expect.
But what about this..
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and tried to derail just about any meaningful discussion that crops up,
That is false. Can you name a single incident of this?
now it's come full circle and, apparently, he can't take what he dishes out.
He dished it out by himself first of all, and his posts were limitted to stupid stories that noone took seriously. This is clearly different. This is led by a person who truly wishes to destroys Steve character. He is attacking the actual person. Again, if he had not come in the spotlight, these attacks never would have began.
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Post by: Cayo Hueso on December 07, 2003, 12:02:00 AM
http://forum.sparklit.com/forum.spark?f ... b3d9d490b0 (http://forum.sparklit.com/forum.spark?forumID=3963&action=viewTopic&commentID=95223&sparkKey=391a04aedf8368f9bc92ba6db3d9d490b0)
I'm not a member there, never even been there until he posted my pic and said what he said. I never ran to another site and talked shit. I could really give a damn, but it does give you an idea of what kind of guy he is. As do his post about how big his muscles are or how he can beat anybody's ass or how much money he has. I called him on what he was saying to other people and his responses were "cayohuesto washes her hair with dog poop" or "my biceps are 17 inches". What the fuck is that? I mean he could at least be intelligent with his insults. :cry2:
I have no idea who you are. You seem nice enough, however I believe you are seriously misguided regarding this guy.
What is this new loyalty? It is, above all, conformity. It is the uncritical and unquestioning acceptance of America as it is. It rejects inquiry into the race question or socialized medicine or public housing, regards as heinous any challenge to what is called the system of private enterprise, identifying that system with Americanism. It abandons evolution, repudiates the once popular concept of progress, and regards America as a finished product, perfect and complete. The concept of loyalty as conformity is a false one. It is narrow and restrictive, denies freedom of thought and conscience... What do men know of loyalty who make a mockery of the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights?
Henry Steele Commager, 1947
Post by: Froderik on December 07, 2003, 12:10:00 AM
Post by: Paul St. John on December 07, 2003, 12:21:00 AM
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On 2003-12-06 21:10:00, Froderik13 wrote:
"Well, that "photo" isn't the one you posted originally, and it isn't really you...right? You look very angelic in this one.. :question:
Is that pic real? How do thye do that?
One other thing. You said to Nazi, " Can you guess who it is?"
Did you know Steve from the past?
Paul
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2003, 01:27:00 AM
Post by: Froderik on December 07, 2003, 10:19:00 AM
Thank you, Fr13
Post by: Anonymous on December 07, 2003, 12:43:00 PM
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As far as you Mr St John... What could you possibly find healthy about defending the likes of a racist. Someone who has been and continues to threaten what it is this great country is really all about.
Should we request that Nazi be banned from the forum then? What about freedom of speech?
Post by: Froderik on December 07, 2003, 12:49:00 PM
Post by: Antigen on December 07, 2003, 12:57:00 PM
Again, Art, if you have actually gotten FBI involved in this trivial bullshit, then you are, indeed, a neo-stazi.
Now, what if, right at the beginning, I'd gone wild banning and censoring anything and anyone who I deemed emblemic of racial hate? You'd still be in the dark. Steve would have simply picked a less controversial name, kept his more outrageous ideas off of these forms and only known to ppl who tend to agree with him. You might just think this guy is a kindred spirit because I would have prevented you from finding out the truth.
Without apology, I'll repeat, the American way is better. Not just different, not just a feel-good, knee-jerk patritism thing, but plain out, hands down, time tested, reliably and incorruptably better. It's already played out without any help from government coercion. The guy aired his views and pretty nearly everyone else has soundly rejected them. Even Paul, who's sometimes hard to figure out, only defends him by saying the guy was just kidding. You believe that? I really don't. But then, we don't have to, do we? We are free to draw our own conclusions.
Sometimes I lie awake at night, and I ask, "Where have I gone wrong?" Then a voice says to me, "This is going to take more than one night."
-- Charlie Brown, _Peanuts_ [Charles Schulz]
Post by: Paul St. John on December 07, 2003, 05:48:00 PM
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On 2003-12-07 09:22:00, artman11111 wrote:
"As far as you Mr St John... What could you possibly find healthy about defending the likes of a racist.
Hey Art.. stupidity comes in many forms. Racism is one of the less acceptable, but certainly not the only.
And again, I was not reaching out to a racist. I was assissting a friend. Now how 'bout you shut the fuck up, and quit with your cheap attempts at talking down to me, and making yourself appear important.
Someone who has been and continues to threaten what it is this great country is really all about.
Ahh.. nothing like the sound of bullshit rhetoric. He is threatenning anything.. He probably produces more for this country in a day then you do.
You must be a very lonely man to have the need to "reach out" to a sick person like this.
Again, reach out is your term..
and I am lonely? or are you just protecting Art?
LOL.. and the other day said that defending Nazi would make me lonley.. You are saying I do it cause I am lonely.
How is this? I am as lonely as I choose to be at any particular time.. Now, why don;t you come up with some of your own ideas, and stop recyclking the ideas of the anonymous poster, who at least had some original thoughts.
But when the FBI knocks on your door looking for anything you own that they can relate as racist,you will clearly understand what you have gotten yourself into
Art, I have said it before, and I will say it again, you are starting to get on my fucking nerv3es, you little bitch.. Don't fucking push me. I will make a fool of you.
First of all, would stop talking about the FBI/
Second of all, don;t you ever fucking threaten me as punishment for carrying out the actions, I see fit. I am not in a program anymore, and if you wanna test me feel free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cause I d treally like to get it over with, and put your snivelinfg ass, in your place.
..........Pinhead
Dickhead!
:wink: :lol:
Paul
PS I treat people with the amount of respect that they earn in their dealings with me. It doesn t have to be this way.
Post by: Paul St. John on December 07, 2003, 06:17:00 PM
Isnt it siad in amendment 4 that I have the right to be safe.Am I misled ? doubt that ...
Let me ask ya, honetsly Art.. Do you think that you are in any type of danger from Nazi??
Been around the block too many times.I find it interesting,almost insulting that you would preach the constitutuion as it applies to you,and that conveniently forget about some of the other amendments.
I guess some of it is to be left open to interpretation.I can tollerate one's views.Threatening behaviors and torturous statements are a whole other thing,which i will not tollerate.
A threat wuld have been to have said that he was gonna come looking for you.
He was inviting others to come fuck with him. A lot of people who are capable will do that when their back is against the wall, whether or not it is the optimum way of dealing, it is his.
The proper authorities have IN FACT been notified.
Well, that is impossibly Art, because there are no proper athorities for this, and if someone did show up to my house searching my stuff for nazi articles, I would make sure that they lost their jobs, and that I recieved compensation for my troubles fromn their department. You on the other hand, would just be very evident as a problem causing dickhead.
Not just by myself either.6 others have complained to government agencies about this turd.
LOL.. And I am lonely... LMAO! Yo are obviously lonely and bored.
He's the Nazi and yet YOU are the one who makes threats!! YOU are the one who is a totalitarian fella as well!!
In addition, I would agree whole heartedly.The american way is better.I wouldnt live any other place.I would defend our constitution as well as my shores if i had to.
I would also defend the honor of my own nationality as well as religious beliefs which have been challenged rite here on your site.
Now that would be noice to see!! When are you gonna do it? I haven t seen you say a word to defend your nationality, race, religion, or anything.. You keep claiming that you are too busy asking agencies to defend you from having to defend yourself.
Challenged with bad jokes about skull ashtrays,stabbing people,shooting them and a whole host of sexually perverted threats.
How do you know Steve isnt a serial killer in his early stages of destructive actions.
I know. I am a good judge of character. His intelligences are ion the wrng place to be a serial killer, and as I said he is a good guy.. He has too much personality about him..
That is my objective proof.
But in actuality I know as well as I know.. LOL..
and the idea is absurd to begin with.
What about the kkk emails I've gotten.How bout the kike bs i tollerate..
From Nazi?
Thats not excersizing constitutional rights,thats taking advantage of them
Interpretation is 9/10ths of it.Maybe you could broaden your view of the "american way".
Maybe you could. Don t you have anything better to do dude, then sit around take crazy satire from the I0net as though it was an issue that needed to immediatly be addressed, with utmost importance and urgency.
Find your way clear from extremest to a moderate.....
The constitution does not draw a line between the two, in cases of what is allowed as a liberty.
Paul
Post by: Paul St. John on December 07, 2003, 06:21:00 PM
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On 2003-12-07 14:54:00, artman11111 wrote:
"How you judge me is none of my concern,nor will there be any ill effects except on you.You see I am a great guy that many love and care for.My entire purpose for being here is not to argue with you or anyone else.
I come here to see Elan closed.Which btw is going very well.You and anyone else is encouraged to be on board with it or not."
Bro, you are making it far too easy for me.
Now, ;let me make it easy on you. Just assume that I am a lot smarter then you think, and I know exactly what you are doing right now, and why are you doing it at this particular point.
Best of luck
Paul
Post by: Bellis on December 07, 2003, 06:30:00 PM
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Don t you have anything better to do dude, then sit around take crazy satire from the I0net as though it was an issue that needed to immediatly be addressed, with utmost importance and urgency.
LOL I dont mean to be a grammer nazi, (no pun intended, and not relating to the 'Nazi' on these boards in any way) but WTF did you just say??? Go back to grade school, and learn how to correctly assemble a sentance with the intended meaning.
And of course, as soon as you've done that.. Apply it to yourself. Havnt you got anything better to do than pick apart his post, sentance by sentance, and reply to each?
I also take back what i said in the other thread, you've no clue who the quotes' work :sad: it's [ quote ]Sentance [ /quote ] Reply HERE. Your posts are truely atrocious, and hard on the eyes :sad:
Post by: Paul St. John on December 07, 2003, 06:52:00 PM
Or maybe you're just an idiot.. The sentence makes perfeect sense to me.. I write as I speak
And of course, as soon as you've done that.. Apply it to yourself. Havnt you got anything better to do than pick apart his post, sentance by sentance, and reply to each?
No. This is is what I wish to do at this particular time or I owuld not being doing.
And let's not forget multi-tasking, of course :smile:
Your posts are truely atrocious, and hard on the eyes
Then don't fucking read them!
Paul St. John
Post by: Paul St. John on December 07, 2003, 07:04:00 PM
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On 2003-12-07 15:41:00, artman11111 wrote:
"Paul
I'm glad you have all the answers.Yuo seem like a fairly intellegent person most of the time.
Yuo can twist whatever word you like/cover ass anyway that you deem neccesary.
I am not the only one on the fone with the authorities.When i was on the fone,the person i spoke to knew the name of the site
I am glad that they know the name of this site
as well as the threats being made.
There has not been a single threat being made.
They told me I was the 7th person to have made the call ... in fact th last peron to have made that call.
Well now, Art, I owuld like to be the 8th, so how 'bout you hook me up with that number?
Apparently I am not the only one who believes its just plain wrong to physically intimidate,and/or make threats to harm another in any way...
There were no threats, and I will argue that point.
This is such a joke, my fingers almost fall of the keys, in realisation of how stupid this is.
Art. let me paint it out for you okay...
GAT BLACK JEW WAS MAKING THREATENNING REFERNCES!!!!
NAZI WAS REPLYING SAYING, " COME BACK YOUR SHIT UP!! "
What exactly areyou trying to defend? The constitution ? you cant defend something like that till you read it ...
I never said I was defending anything, and I have read the constitution.. which is probably why you put that in.. You were just feeling me out, and wanting to know if I read it or not
Did the kkk kike emails come from Nazi ... dont know dont care ....not my job to figure it out anymore.I'm done playin with the likes.
So reach out and find another quote that you can distort into meaning something else....
and yet you can t point out where I did this. If you were being honest in your dealings, that owuld be no problem would it?
The outcome is completely outa my hands now...
Well, if that is how you like it....
my guess,and I am not an attorney,its more in yours and Nazi's hands to decide..."
What's in my hands decide? LOL
Paul
PS Put your money where your mouth is and hook me up with that number, Art.
Post by: Paul St. John on December 07, 2003, 07:33:00 PM
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Paul,not interested in a dialogue with you
Well, then I will just entertain myself with a reply :grin:
On 2003-12-07 16:17:00, artman11111 wrote:
"if anyone here still wants to go back to the very reason this forum "elan " is here
I would be pleased to have that conversation ....
The snail creeps back into his shell. He is as full of shit when out of his shell, as he needs to be in order to create his shell.
but thats the only reason I am here paul.
The only reason you are here right now, .. yes?
For the good fight.. the good cause...
like a post to grab when the winds do blow
I have no axe to grind with you or anyone.
I am sorry. It appeared for awhile that you were attempting to grind your axe upon me, but that;s okay.. Art is over that now.. Bcak to his
real reason fro being here.
Grow up..
Can ya imagine???
be a part of something really positive instead of whats been here previous.
Oh sure.. Yes .. abosulutely.. How 'bout this? You begin, and i will follow..
LOL Show me how it's done.
If you cant,I will understand,
Well, if course you will be understanding with me Art. You don't wanna piss me off.
I liked you a lot better in your PM's ya know
but will not debate anything else
That's cool.. I actually haven t seen you debate much yet.
art
artman11111@yahoo.com"
Are you asking me to e-mail you Art?
Paul St. John
PS Will you please hook me up with number, and extension for the specific FBI agent who has recived these 7 calls ?
Post by: Bellis on December 07, 2003, 10:52:00 PM
Dont be such an idiot. Do you think the fbi honestly care that he made off hand threats? Seeing as you believe nazi to be so full of shit, shouldnt you have seen right through it? You're being petty now. Assuming you or anyone else even made a call. If you (guys) did, what do you expect to come of it? I'm sure the FBI atleast think they have much more important things to do, then track down big headed trailor trash for making a threat, without any intention to carry through. I suppose he COULD be on the verge of becoming a homicidal maniac, but chances are bad. besides that, Ignorance is bliss.
You're better off not worrying wether he is or not, and going on with your life. For example, keep trying to shut down elan, and places like it! If that's truely your goal, you surely dont have time to be squabbling with Nazi and Paul?!
Post by: Anonymous on December 08, 2003, 08:42:00 AM
Post by: Paul St. John on December 08, 2003, 08:53:00 AM
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On 2003-12-08 05:45:00, artman11111 wrote:
"On the contrary .. They seemed very interested ..
As i said b4 its outa my hands now.My whole purpose here is to see Elan shut down.Its comin.
Dialogue about anything else here is a waste of my time.. I really do have better things to do...
I will say this,I was not the first to make the call,and theyhad info long before my call was made.
I am not playin footsie with a would be dictator,nor do I care what you or anyone else thinks.
A would be dictator? Art, you are not thinking clearly. First of all, the name Nazi started as sort of like pet-name tha I gave him, cause I thought he was a racist fuck.
Second, you are the one acting like a dictator.
If Art does not like it, it must be taken away by force. I bet you anything, that if I told Nazi I was a Jew or black, we would still be friends. He has acted friendly with you in spite of our being Jewish. Well, I couls say more, but I am done defending this guy.
The threatening statements have gone back 5 months,some directed at me,lots at others.Maybe I am the only one here that is willing to talk about it.
I have watched his posts for about 5 months, just to clarify. There were no threats.
"Just because someone calls you an asshole,doesnt mean you have to prove them right."
Peace"
So then if I call you an asshole, will you stop being one?
Paul
Post by: Antigen on December 08, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
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On 2003-12-07 14:38:00, artman11111 wrote:
"Isnt it siad in amendment 4 that I have the right to be safe.
No, the IVth says "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." The IInd says you have a right to defend yourself.
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The proper authorities have IN FACT been notified.Not just by myself either.6 others have complained to government agencies about this turd.
Really? You think this is probable cause? Some jerk making up outrageous stories on the net?
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In addition, I would agree whole heartedly.The american way is better.I wouldnt live any other place.
Well Art, this isn't it.
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I would defend our constitution as well as my shores if i had to.
Thanks, but no thanks. I think we've had just about all of this kind of 'help' that we can stand. :roll:
He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.
James Burgh 1774
Post by: GregFL on December 08, 2003, 10:35:00 AM
Now, again as I know you know, this in no way prevents you from censoring his actions, because Fornits is a privately owned business and these constitutional protections in no way force you to provide a soapbox for him or anyone else. You have however made it clear on your stance, that all words will stand/fail on their own merit, and that should be respected by all here (just don't try it on the SDF, because I will Def delete this type of bullshit...but hey, that is my right)
The constitution of the united states was formed for one primary reason; to protect us, american citizens, from our own government. It was brilliant, especially in the context of when it was written. It is the thin line between us and a totalitarian/oppressive government.
Now, Nazi and others, carry on and continue to make asses out of yourselves here. Ignore the real purpose of this forum, ignore the people who were hurt and come here seeking solace, seeking healing and understanding. Instead show them how you haven't evolved one iota since your teenage incarceration.
It is your lawfull right to do so....
The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
--Hermann Goering, Luftwaffe commander, sentenced to death at Nuremberg
Post by: Antigen on December 08, 2003, 10:44:00 AM
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws.
Anonymity Anonymous (http://fornits.com/anonanon)
Post by: GregFL on December 08, 2003, 11:49:00 AM
Speculations on the Origin of Human Intelligence: "In defense of the Pygmies, perhaps I should note that a friend of mine who has spent time with them says that for such activities as the patient stalking and hunting of mammals and fish they prepare themselves through marijuana intoxication, which helps to make the long waits, boring to anyone further evolved than a Komodo dragon, at least moderately tolerable. Ganja is, he says, their only cultivated crop. It would be wryly interesting if in human history the cultivation of marijuana led generally to the invention of agriculture, and thereby to civilization.
Carl Sagan - The Dragons of Eden - 1977