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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Paul St. John on November 05, 2003, 04:26:00 AM
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Ken,
What s up, you little fucking pussy. I just recieved notice that you called the FBI on me, or are claiming to have done it, and also that you are spreading the idea that I am dangerous.
Listen, you stupid fucking low life shithead. I know you have manipulated the system your whole fucking life and operated like a fucking weasel, but you ve never done it with me in the picture. Take all the bullshit actions you wnat, and watch them all fall in my favor in the end asshole.
Fucking Loser!
Paul St. JOhn
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fbi??? bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
holy shit a lil extreme there eh?
SyN
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Sounds like Ken's just about ready to receive a couple of nice young men in their clean white coats, huh?
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will [America's] heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
--John Quincy Adams, Speech to the U.S. House of Representatives [July 4, 1821]
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On 2003-11-05 12:51:00, Antigen wrote:
"Sounds like Ken's just about ready to receive a couple of nice young men in their clean white coats, huh?<"
:lol: :lol:
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They are coming to take Ken away ha ha they are coming to take Ken away ha ha , he he ha ha to the funny farm where Ken can moderate all his thoughts and weave baskets.
[ This Message was edited by: nazi on 2003-11-05 15:39 ]
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It seems like Ken has abandoned his own website and hangs out at fornits 24/7.I think Ken actaully finds fornits more interesting then his own website.
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Nazi,
Funny posts bro.
LOL
Paul
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Ken I noticed your website is gray.Is this because you are mourning the death of junkie Marc Rosenberg?
Also are you upset because you can't squirt Elmers glue all over yourself and have Rosenberg's ashes sprinkled all over you?
Perhaps if you know where the flushing of Marc's ashes will take place you can access the sewer and have some sort of sive with you to catch most of his ashes so you can have some of Marc.
If you catch too much poop I'm sure Marty would greatly appreciate it if you gave it to him.
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I heard that Ken died too.
Thye found him all fried up eith his dick in an outlet.
He should have known better, zI guesss.
The coroner's report said that what ever hair he had left was all cooked up.
His dick was fried down to nothing. Supposedly it looked quite similar to a Nathan;s hot dog.
Ken's family is very pissed off that Marty ripped it off and ate it, before the body was taken away.
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FUCKIN LMAO @ KENS FRIED DICK.
DAMN THAT MARTY, STEALING FROM THE DEAD!!!!!
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Sorry, I'm jumping onboard way after the train has left the station...but I'm curious about who this Ken guy is, and why you all dislike him. The posts are funny, and I'd like to get some background info if anyone has the time...
Thanks in advance,
»FR13
[ This Message was edited by: Froderik13 on 2003-11-07 10:13 ]
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You know you're right. Ken definatly gets a lot of attention. Don't quite understand why though. He seems to be hated, yet all anyone wants to do is talk about him. Hmmmmmm....maybe its some secret underground plan that Nazi and Paul have because they're secretly in love with Ken and are afraid to admit their homosexual feelings.
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Froderick, Ken is the webmaster at http://ElanAlumni.com/ (http://ElanAlumni.com/)
Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
--John Adams
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On 2003-11-07 10:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You know you're right. Ken definatly gets a lot of attention. Don't quite understand why though. He seems to be hated, yet all anyone wants to do is talk about him. Hmmmmmm....maybe its some secret underground plan that Nazi and Paul have because they're secretly in love with Ken and are afraid to admit their homosexual feelings."
oh yea thats it, something about a little bald headed man that really turns me on.6ft 235 pd built man having the hots for a little bald headed middle aged man, yea that makes alot of sense,did I also mention I was a skinhead?
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Nazi, You mentioning that you were a skinhead (as if I couldn't have guessed, lol) got me thinking about their historical perspective (as I know of them) When I first heard the word "skinhead" back in 1981, it was never associated with a person who was in any way racist. To me, (and I think to most people at that time) a skinhead was a working-class British "yob" or kid who shaved his (or her) head, maybe wore combat boots, liked to fight with just about anyone, including the "boys in blue," and was part of the youth culture that listened to bands like the 4-Skins, Infa-Riot, Blitz, etc...I remember a record that my best friend lent me called "Strength Through Oi!" that featured bands like this, and poetry by others. I liked it. We had 45's by the above mentioned bands. We shaved our heads with face razors. I had mine shaved in a public fountain. Our parents (especially my mom) HATED this stuff. They didn't get it, and didn't want to. But again, there was nothing RACIST about any of this. At least not to our knowledge. It was just some good punk/rock music to me, and a counter-culture ideology to embrace...
Now let's fast forward to 1985. I got out of straight, and all of a sudden, skinheads were racists. I was not pleased to hear this. I don't (and never will) subscribe to or believe in the superiority of one race over another. I hate all people equally, lol. But seriously, here was a whole cool thing that was ruined now. If I shaved my head (and I still do, even now, but just with clippers) people would ask me if I was a 'skinhead' and it was like, uh-oh.."No, I just like to keep my hair short..." This isn't meant to be some kind of lecture to you, Nazi. You're gonna believe what you will. That's your right as an American or whatever. Just wanted to get across my life experience with the skinhead thing. BTW, I still like the good old music anyway.
FTW, »FR13
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FUCK YOU YOU PUSSY DOWN HERE WE CHEW YA UP AND SPIT YOU OUT! NO YOUR AN AMERICAN SHIT FUCK OFF ASSHO YEAH THATS RIGHT ASSHO. ITS IS A RICH WHITE BOY TAKING A BIG BLACK DICK UP HIS ASS IS WHAT WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU SKINHEAD :lol:
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YOUR ANOTHER PUSSY YOU NEED FRIENDS THAT BAD THAT YOU CANT STAND UP AND SAY HES WRONG? WHAT THE HELLS WRONG WIHT YOU PEOPLE?
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Mary(Darkangel) of whomever you may be that posts in all capitols. YOu are obviously far more racist and ignorant then Nazi, and especailly Froderik, who is new guest to this section, and could perhaps, go without your violent outbursts of misplaced anger.
It is who are most ignorant and prejudice. It is you are scared of black, who views them nagtively, and who stereostypes.
Every single time, you talk about blacks, you talk about them sticking their penis's in people asses.. Look over the archives. It is all there in.. ummm.. black and white.
It is very nice of you to defend black, and I am very sure that they appreciate very it very much. Yes, I am sure that they love your help, when you preach how others are wrong, while consistently charactersing all blacks as ass-fuckers, and rapists.
Paul St. John
PS If that is you Mary, you might wanna look into a good Exorcist.
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Al in all, though, I have to say, Mary-Darkangel is one of the sweetest women that I have ever met. A conversation with her is an absolute pleasure.
Here are some random quotes from my last conversation with her:
[q]mary> wanna go at it iam game
your a pussy bring you and your fiend on over
here ill chew ya up and spit ya out
ill kick you ass ya little fuck face
white trash
fuck you
fuck you
fuck you
your one fucked up ass wipe if i have ever seen
one
and god help me if i ever meet you
whats the matter paul do feeling toooooooooo
smal
small know what i mean?
go to hell
way to small hummmmmmmmmm paul
YOUR AN ASS THATS ALL SHE WRTE
mary> YOUR A HAFE A HOMO BAG BOY
GET A LIFE
GET A DICK
GET A WOMEN
OH IAM SORRY ITS TO SMALL FOR THAT
HEY NEDDLE DICK BUG FUCKER WHERE
ARE YOU
HES A WASTE OF HUMAN LIFE
PAUL YOU MISS DAYTOP DONT YA
your a part ime daytop drop out prob cuz your
were too busy in the street sucking off
tooooooooooooo many men
get a women to take up your time you assholw
kiss my ass paul your in my neck of the woods
now
cant get a women so ya settle on us
colse your ass out for sure
oh no it tooooooo spread from all those men
and lemme tellya something paul i got a life
kids and grandkids and i thought them manners and
copassion unlike your sorry ass
poor poor paul the fagit who wants to go to elan
sounds like your friend is here huh paul
you know who
miss him
hel i got more dick then youll ever dream of
fuck you
cant take it asshole
is what you do on fornits all the time
eat me
ill kick your ass
whats the matter fag boy
grow the fuck up
get the hell outta here
go jag off
come on fag boy come to chi town the sothside
see some of my nigger friends
thats cuz i wanna see ya rot in hell
keep trying ass
not gonna work
lol
iam cold very cold
just cuz you dont have a life or a women to take
up your time
i got a good job been married 25 years 2 grest
kids one whos in homors classes and two wonderfull
grandchildren now tell me
eat shit
i dont go after ppl for their skin color
i dont put my nose where it dosnt belong
iam a good loving person
god iam gonna cry
paul i was thought by the best dont even try
nah
yup lots of ppl frist to come to my mind is my
mother
that women could cook thought me how to
survive
she thought me well
and ill lay odds you though i was talking about
elan lol got ya
this is my site you leave
your a poor soul looking for a place to be
and thats sad [/q]
Yes.. a very swell woman. I wish that she was my grandmother. :lol:
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She sure thought me a lesson. :lol:
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sounds like my kinda girl! ::armed::
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LMAO :wave:
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It seems like Mary didn't drink her metimucil that morning.
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ok Iam going to go at this as and an adult.... why I dont know but I will try.
You dont know me at all you dont even know if that was me who posted dose it really matter?
Truth is the ignorant race crap that goes on in here is not funny not light hearted and is sick nothing more then that........
Paul you try to make yourself look like the poor man who was so attacted by a little old grandmother come on tell the truth, you went at me as much as I went at you ok so your not innocent .
Lemme get things stright Iam a very nice person when Iam spoken to with respect... A mother and grandmother hell yeah and Iam not some little old lady in a rocking chair yeah paul nazi I can kick ass and will do so anytime I feel the need too
As far as you guys going on about different races being skinheads go ahead its not only me whos going to want to crush you theres many countless others who dont like it anymore then I do...
I for one got it pretty good people. My kids are great my daughter has 2 of her own and they are the world to me ,she works so dose her hubby they live in a very nice place and are doing well. They are your age thank god they live healthy productive lives.
My younger son was just excepted into the National Honor Society the kids going places....
So go ahead say what you will about me the truths thruth... I know who and what I am its not a problem for me at all see my life your life is going to go on no matter what you think
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Mary is a great person. You don't know her. You people go on and on about people you don't know and have never met. You say things that are so crazy that nobody believes them anyway. This board has an interesting reputation. The word that is usually used is cesspool.
You and Mary aren't on the same level. You, and this board have no credibility at all. Yes, some of it is funny but not to be taken seriously.
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(This post is directed at the anon who posted right after me)
Hey bitch if you're talkin' to me, you must not have really read my post. I'm not a skinhead. I wouldn't say that now. BECAUSE I'm not a racist. Read my post again, you cap typin' DUMBASS! :flame: Oh, and I doubt that you're black. Fuck you. Who's gonna do me in the ass? Certainly not you...BITCH!
[ This Message was edited by: Froderik13 on 2003-11-08 09:12 ]
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On 2003-11-08 07:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
Paul you try to make yourself look like the poor man who was so attacted by a little old grandmother come on tell the truth, you went at me as much as I went at you ok so your not innocent .
I don't consider myself a poor man, but if anythingveiw you as a poor woman. As fas as my going at you, Mary... That is a lie.. I wasn t even talking to you. I had an hour or so conversation with someone else in a chatroom. YOu were kinda like the background music. YOu just went on buzzing in the background the whole time, even though noone was acknowledging you. Is your memory sufficiently, refreshed now?
Paul
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Art, he was saying, " Hey Bicth", to
a person who just attacked him for no reason whatsoever, and said that they wanted to see a black peins in his ass.
Paul
also, what is wrong with him shaving him his head. This really isn t any of business, but I just figurred that I would step in anyway.
"OI to the world, and everybody wins"
_ No Doubt
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Hey Artman...
Eye for an eye, motherfucker. YOU'RE the fuckin' ASSHOLE! Oh, how many times do I have to mention that I'm not a racist. That bitch had it coming...
[ This Message was edited by: Froderik13 on 2003-11-08 15:57 ]
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Froderick, she wasn't even talking to you. I understand how it seem like it was to you but that was directed at someone else. Lighten up man.
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On 2003-11-08 04:22:00, Anonymous wrote:
"sounds like my kinda girl! ::armed:: "
That's what you say now, but I am sure that that
shit gets tiring after a few years
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On 2003-11-08 18:11:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Froderick, she wasn't even talking to you. I understand how it seem like it was to you but that was directed at someone else. Lighten up man."
All losers can do is lie because they are always wrong. It was in response to his message and she was clearly talking to him.
Paul
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On 2003-11-08 07:37:00, Anonymous wrote:
"ok Iam going to go at this as and an adult....
Well, I am glad that you decided to repress your taretz syndrome for awhile
why I dont know but I will try.
Perhaps, because that is what adults are supposed to do, and that is how you actually accomplish something
You dont know me at all you dont even know if that was me who posted dose it really matter?
Well, considerring that you saying " does it really matter?", it doesn t take too mnay neurons to assume that it was in fact you who posted it, but you do not want to own up to it now.. Ken has taught you well
Truth is the ignorant race crap that goes on in here is not funny not light hearted and is sick nothing more then that........
The ignorant race crap that goes on here, is the minority of what is posted.. Nazi hasn t even said anything racists in eons. The most ignorant, most racist carp that goes on here comes from you and your consistently characterising blacks, as rapists, and ass-fuckers.
Paul you try to make yourself look like the poor man who was so attacted by a little old grandmother come on tell the truth, you went at me as much as I went at you ok so your not innocent .
Mary, the extent to which you are completely full of shit, is almost humorous.. BTW, I still have the whole thing on file
Lemme get things stright Iam a very nice person when Iam spoken to with respect...
Well, in the convo from which I took the quotes, you weren t spoken to all.. YOu just wouldn t shut the fuck up..LMAO
A mother and grandmother hell yeah and Iam not some little old lady in a rocking chair yeah paul nazi I can kick ass and will do so anytime I feel the need too
Okay, idiot.. whatever you say.
As far as you guys going on about different races being skinheads go ahead its not only me whos going to want to crush you theres many countless others who dont like it anymore then I do...
Well, I have yet to go on about skinheads, or any even slightly racist topic, but you can attempt to line up as many people as you like in an attempt to criush me.. A million dollars says, that if I came down to your famed Chit Town, I would get a long far better with the locals then you Mary
I for one got it pretty good people. My kids are great my daughter has 2 of her own and they are the world to me ,she works so dose her hubby they live in a very nice place and are doing well. They are your age thank god they live healthy productive lives.
This is the same thing you kept telling me in that chatroom.. I never said that you dind t have it good.. I also never asked. I also never cared, but as a man who extensivley studied psychology, I can make a few guesses why you feel the need to keep going on about your external achievements
My younger son was just excepted into the National Honor Society the kids going places....
Well, good for him.. Is this suppose to concern me? Am I suppose to sit around comparing myself to every person in the world.. I honestly don't care
So go ahead say what you will about me the truths thruth...
I never said anything bitch.. I quoted you. What could be a better example of truth then your own words.
I know who and what I am its not a problem for me at all see my life your life is going to go on no matter what you think"
I would respond to this, but I have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Paul
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Mary, it is you who always puts your life on trial..
Not me, or anyone that I have seen
Paul
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Froderick, you landed in the middle of an ugly brawl. They're really not joking. Nazi really thinks he's a nazi, some anons usually turn out to be Ken, the Über brainwashed program protege who, 30 years later, still revels in the memory of his glory days on staff at Elan and tries hard to relive the experience as completely as possible.
Folks, I know Froderick well enough from a couple of other forums to know that he doesn't go around starting shit. He's a serious and decent guy. He was, or thought he was attacked, and he fell for it :skull: Froderick, why did you fall for it??
I've read enough of Mary's writings to know she's just as real. And I understand why you guys are so outraged by some of the things I let fly around here. We only disagree on the best way to respond.
As to why anyone outside Elan would ever take an interest in it, well I can think of a few good reasons. To those of us who spent time in other Synanon based programs, it's about like meeting up with some newly discovered distand cousins. Ever wonder why we all keep coming back no matter how badly you treat us? It's because the similarities among the programs are so obvious to anyone who's taken just a little time reading some of the stories.
No matter how hard Kenny boy tries to convince you that you're all alone in the world, that no one can understand because they weren't there, it's a lie. Not sure exactly what his interest is. Could be money, could be culpability, could be a neurotic need to live Concept. Could be something competely different or all of the above. One thing is clear, though, he has a definite interest in keeping everyone who knows anything about Elan at each other's throats and isolated. Why do you fall for it?
While ya'll have been busy trying to sort out who posted which obscene crap, a congressman in California is pushing for an investigation into the WWASP branch of Synanon programs. If ya'll want to get something done, you might consider cruising on over there (please step over and ignore the flame wars over there) and get up to speed on that.
Then consider writing your congressmen and ask them to investigate Elan for all the same reasons. Or write to the papers covering the story and tell them they've got their work cut out for them. For the most part, they're treating it asif WWASP is the problem to be solved and, once they're gone, the world will be safe from sadistic mind-fucking child abusers. So straighten them out!
But please don't feed the trolls. It only makes it fun and exciting for them. Me? I will not be manipulated or maneuvered into making monitoring and editing of this forum a full time job. You people are grown and don't need a babysitter. Who the hell would I be, anyway, to decide for you what's fit for you to read or what you may talk about?
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not stamping my feet and demanding anything of anyone. Ya'll can and will do just what you want. I'm just thinking you'll get more out of this (only?) uncensored forum if you focus on getting to know the cool people and ignore those you perceived to be idiots, just like in any public place in the real world.
Speak gently! 't is a little thing Dropp'd in the heart's deep well; The good, the joy, that it may bring Eternity shall tell.
-- G. W. Langford: Speak gently.
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Thank you Ginger for the decent responce...
You seem to me to be a level headed person and I have not a negitive thing to say to you...
Your trying to help children and thats a good thing, Ill bet it get hard dealing with the bull that gets thrown around in here..
Thanks again Mary
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On 2003-11-08 20:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Thank you Ginger for the decent responce...
You seem to me to be a level headed person and I have not a negitive thing to say to you...
Your trying to help children and thats a good thing, Ill bet it get hard dealing with the bull that gets thrown around in here..
Thanks again Mary"
Yeah.. saved by the Ginger, you manipulative cunt. Bull getting thrown arounhd here, you say..
You're the one starting all the problems, loser.
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Well thank you very much, Mary.
Don't worry, I don't lose sleep over the dumb stuff. I wish and hope for something good to happen here. And sometimes it does. But this is just one forum, only one kind. There are others that are more focused and controled to specific purpose. I would invite all readers to take in the full range and decide for themselves what they're looking at.
Glad you came around here. Hope to hear more from you.
The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism.
--William Osler
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Nice try I know thats NOT Ken.If your going to play at least do a better job of it......
Looks to me your the loser around here as your skills to manipulate are so rough around the edges.
Thanks for caring so much about me. :roll:
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Shut the fuck up Moron. Mary didn't start anything and you know it. So does everyone else. She wasn't even posting here and people started attacking her. She has a right to defend herself.
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On 2003-11-09 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Shut the fuck up Moron. Mary didn't start anything and you know it. So does everyone else. She wasn't even posting here and people started attacking her. She has a right to defend herself.
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Can somebody please tell me as to why we have a 80 year old plus woman at our site??????
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On 2003-11-09 08:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Shut the fuck up Moron. Mary didn't start anything and you know it. So does everyone else. She wasn't even posting here and people started attacking her. She has a right to defend herself.
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C'mon, Mary, set this person straight. Take a little credit from your work. ::rainbow::
Paul
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On 2003-11-09 07:26:00, Anonymous wrote:
" Nice try I know thats NOT Ken.If your going to play at least do a better job of it......
Looks to me your the loser around here as your skills to manipulate are so rough around the edges.
Thanks for caring so much about me. ::boohoo::
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Froderick, you landed in the middle of an ugly brawl. They're really not joking. Nazi really thinks he's a nazi, some anons usually turn out to be Ken, the Über brainwashed program protege who, 30 years later, still revels in the memory of his glory days on staff at Elan and tries hard to relive the experience as completely as possible.
Folks, I know Froderick well enough from a couple of other forums to know that he doesn't go around starting shit. He's a serious and decent guy. He was, or thought he was attacked, and he fell for it Froderick, why did you fall for it??
I guess I like an ugly brawl sometimes. I've got rage. I'd like to kick the person's ass who was trying to fuck with me, IF it was in fact me that they were trying to fuck with. I believe that nazi thinks he's a nazi. Never doubted it for a minute. And yeah, if that was you Ken, you're a cocksucking piece of SHIT and I hope nazi tracks you down and beats the living FUCK out of you. How dare you come off at me like that you little BITCH...Of course you don't have the balls to say who the fuck you are, so fuck you. (again, if you weren't talking to me, then forget all I said)
Well Antigen, there's your answer. Maybe I did "fall for it" or maybe not. In any case, thanks for trying to clear things up. But when someone starts in on me like that, it's hard not to bite back. GRRRRRRRRR... :flame:
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Wow Ken you sure do know how to make friends over here.As far as me track9ing down old keny boy, well i think ken has enough problems in life.
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well said ginger. This is Dee and I am on my friends computer just reading all.We have been selling coach bags and gucci and louie doing well.Glad I am in mass gave me somthing to do since my computer died last thursday,well just wanted to say hi.
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http://forum.sparklit.com/forum.spark?forumID=3963 (http://forum.sparklit.com/forum.spark?forumID=3963)
Froderek check out my elan board.
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thanks, nazi. I'll check it out.
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Ken and I are in talks about him making me a Moderator over at his message board at his website.Ken likes the idea of it because I bring in the ratings and people.Ken wants my experience to liven up his message board and make it more popular.Ofcoarse I would need to have another person Moderating it with me who can also add some very good humourous content, that person would be Paul St John.
Just think Paul and I moderating Ken's message board, LOL.
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Ken Zaretsky likes to rape and piliage little boys.Hey Ken is it true you and Marty are in competition who can get the most little boys in the sack?
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On 2003-11-12 09:55:00, nazi wrote:
"Ken and I are in talks about him making me a Moderator over at his message board at his website.Ken likes the idea of it because I bring in the ratings and people.Ken wants my experience to liven up his message board and make it more popular.Ofcoarse I would need to have another person Moderating it with me who can also add some very good humourous content, that person would be Paul St John.
LOL .. Thanks N.
I figure we wouldn t have much work to do. There s only a few posts a month.. heh heh
Just think Paul and I moderating Ken's message board, LOL."
Cold days in hell :grin:
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Ken is masterbater and a pervert, he use to peep in the female dorms windows late at night and whack off.
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ShaaKaaKaa!!!"---*bow mutha fucka
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So what do you say Ken, do you wanna make Paul and I moderator's at your message board and help liven up your site?As you can see your message board has been quite dorment the last few weeks.
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Art, are you talking about Andysmom? Anyone in touch w/ her at all? Cause I really wanted to answer her post. I'm sure she probably thinks I'm just one of those crazy Elan haters. But I do have a perspective on this that maybe she can use.
Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
--Thomas Paine
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On 2003-11-14 13:48:00, Antigen wrote:
"Art, are you talking about Andysmom? Anyone in touch w/ her at all? Cause I really wanted to answer her post. I'm sure she probably thinks I'm just one of those crazy Elan haters. But I do have a perspective on this that maybe she can use.
Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.
--Thomas Paine
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Ginger,
I forwarded your message on Fornits to her. She wrote back asking that I leave her alone.LOL
Paul
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IC. Thanks.
G: "If we do happen to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do?"
EB: "Normal procedure, Lieutenant, is to jump 200 feet in the air and scatter oneself over a wide area."
-- Somewhere in No Man's Land, BA4
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Agreed, Art. There's only so much any of us can do to help break ppl out of these mental gulags. If they're looking for any excuse to reject the outside world, they'll find it no matter how scrupulously anybody tries to elimanate any vestige of offensive material. I'm still not interested in playing that game. I danced on that tightrope for most of my childhood and still revel in the fact that I don't have to do that any more.
I'm not asking anyone to give out any info that this lady hasn't already posted publicly. I'm just offering to engage her in some meaningful dialog about what goes through our minds when we've started breaking away from the cult mind. Aparently, that sort of discussion is not tolerated on Ken's site. Here, anything goes. You just ignore the stuff you're not interested in and focus on what you are interested in. It's absolutely necessary, I think, to master that concept if you want out of a cult mindset.
I tried not to work for, you know, anyone who ate children with their bare hands. I won't pretend that I was ideologically consistent.
--Dick Morris; Political consultant for Bill Clinton, Trent Lott and Tom Ridge
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Welcome back ken, I see that you have been absent for awhile, were you on a masterbation binge or something?
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Ken Zaretzky Nov-27-03, 12:15 PM (Central Standard Time)
17. "RE: Marc Rosenburg"
Nothings up with Marc. Just someone starting a rumor. They do that sort of thing often
Yea Ken once again you fell for it you gullable mother fucker!
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Hey Nazi, what was it like being a skin in Elan? I bet they REALLY cracked down on your image while a bunch of wiggers got to dress in baggy clothes, am I right? I'm not being sarcastic, I've been into the punk scene for ten years, and they really gave me shit at Elan. Everyone was allowed to keep at least some part of their youth subculture while me and the other punks were not allowed to keep any of ours. Such total bullshit, I bet it was worse for you because "skinhead" has a racist connotation while "punk" does not. If your views are what you say they are, I'm sure you hated the politically correct atmosphere at Elan. One kid got a GM for saying someone "Jewed" him while someone who said she hated Irish people barely got any consequences at all. I know as many racist punks as I do racist skins, but the staff are idiots about anything besides deadheads.
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Anoyomous when i was in Elan I wasn't a skin,Thou I did share some of the same thoughts as I do today but its more meaningful today.I used racial slurs in elan when getting my feelings off and staff let it fly.I was what you called someone who was on the beginning of becoming a realist.
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So when were you there, and what house? Did Elan make you racist, or was it the part of the country that you lived in?
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Sorry, there's a mistake with computer, I wanted to continue that I was asking that because in my part of the country, there' s a lot of racism, particularly among a certain ethnic group that I won't name, but it's only against black, hispanics, and asians, but not too much with Jews.
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hey Ken I scared off your disciple Greg's Cocksgrove I ran him off.Who else shall we expect you to send over to our boards?It seems that your back up cant stand their ground for long without being attacked.