Fornits
General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: DannyB II on October 02, 2010, 06:39:37 PM
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Robert is asking on his thread for Whooter to get honest. Robert is a hypocrite he constantly fabricates and embellishes accounts of abuse at HLA, thinking no one would ever say anything to refute what he is saying. Robert is prone to this type of behavior if you bother to read his posts.
So says the guy who basis his opinion on what Whooter tells him to think. I'll tell you what Danny, let me give you the opportunity to back up your own claim. Provide links to some of these comments I've made that you feel are either fabrications or embellishments. Let's see what you can come up with. Get to it son.
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No, that would be your job.
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You really do follow Whooter! You make some baseless claim about another poster and when asked for any sort of evidence to support your claim not only do you come up empty, but you try and claim the person you lied about should prove it for you!!!! And you do it all because you know you've put your foot in your mouth, you look stupid, and you're too much of a coward to back up your own statements!!!
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Priceless. Let me know if you work up either the courage or any evidence son. Till then I won't expect much from you.
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I'm tired of being blabber-mouthed to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
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Robert, this whole act of yours is old. I am not going back and picking out your posts where you have plagiarized someone else experiences and embellished on them.
It is obvious you have really no actual real time experiences and like a lot of other posters here, found a web site to act out ambitions of advocating. Which is fine, I am sure the TTI needs folks like you. Remember though the accusations you hurl at Whooter, well, you are looking in a mirror.
Whooter stands on his side of the aisle as you stand on the other side, both of you have no real experience inside a program, yet that does not deter advocating your positions. Whooter actually has experience because of a daughter being involved with a program, you on the other hand say you have been in HLA but I am truly beginning to have my doubts on your credibility.
Robert, all of your abusive experiences you have quoted here are well known an documented through others. Nothing of what you have said since you started posting as RobertBruce has been authentic/original, it is all copied (so to speak). This is why I say you are a fabricator of stories.
Robert, there is nothing wrong with just being a advocate for children's rights, actually I would have more respect for you for this stance. Maybe you thought being in HLA gives you more credibility or maybe during the time HLA was going through their tuff time, you thought jumping on the bandwagon was a cool thing to do, as a ex-student. IDK ???
Get real, be who you are. Hey look at me, I am a asshole and practice real hard at it. I have never pretended to be anything else. Actually I don't have to practice at all, it comes naturally.
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Well Danny it sounds like you've spent a lot of time reading through all of my postings made over the last 5 years or so. Do me a favor and toss up the one you felt was the biggest lie. I mean if you're so certain I'm making all this stuff up you should have at least one post to pull from. Better yet find one of my postings, and then find what you believe is the original post from a seperate poster. Until then you're just some drunk who calls himself an asshole and can't back up his claims. Meanwhile I'm the guy who spent a year locked up in HLA and you have nothing that can prove otherwise.
Get to it son.
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I'm tired of being blabber-mouthed to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
Ya know what I am tired of is you being tired. Why don't you just ban yourself. :rofl:
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I'm tired of being blabber-mouthed to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
Ya know what I am tired of is you being tired. Why don't you just ban yourself. :rofl:
I'm tired of you being tired of me being tired...
I warn you not to try and tangle with RB.. he'll put you to the test.
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I'm tired of being blabber-mouthed to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
Ya know what I am tired of is you being tired. Why don't you just ban yourself. :rofl:
I'm tired of you being tired of me being tired...
I warn you not to try and tangle with RB.. he'll put you to the test.
I warn you not to try and tangle with RB.. he'll put you to the test.
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Whoooooaaaaaa, I'm slowing down my horses, Frodie. Starting to circle the wagons. What next??????
No, what I have noticed is when you folks are put to the test the only thing that happens is a regurgitation of old outdated facts. Which at times I don't mind discussing but I think some of you are confused with what year your in.
RB, does not bother me at all, he is full of air and smelly air at that.
Sounds like you are a confused and mixed up person Danny... Here you are trying to force feed us that programs are good.. Starting to wonder if the brain washing that they done on you really worked or if you are trying to ease your own conscience about sending your own kid to a program.... The latter would be known as justification .... On another note man it must really suck being you having to be a miserable prick all the time ..... Must be a real lonely life...
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How did we get from 3-6 months to now a year you were in HLA. Coming from the asshole.
This was all settled years ago but it seems to be emerging again. Bruce was specifically given an "Honorary" Survival status so he wouldn't need to continue to lie about his time in a program anymore. A few weeks in a program is nothing to be ashamed of. There is no need to lie about how long he spent there. I am not sure why he keeps upping his time there again.
Seems to be manifesting itself into a Napoleon like complex over time.
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How did we get from 3-6 months to now a year you were in HLA. Coming from the asshole.
This was all settled years ago but it seems to be emerging again. Bruce was specifically given an "Honorary" Survival status
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Yeah on that dark rainy night in that burnt down gulag in that seceret meeting of the admin of Fornits and you got mad because you were not invited
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How did we get from 3-6 months to now a year you were in HLA. Coming from the asshole.
This was all settled years ago but it seems to be emerging again. Bruce was specifically given an "Honorary" Survival status
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Yeah on that dark rainy night in that burnt dow gulag by the admin of Fornits and you got mad because you were not invited
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Ha,Ha,Ha I had forgotten about that post. Thats funny.
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Oh wow, Danny has a kid? That's terrible. Does anyone have the number for Georgia Childrens Services?
How did we get from 3-6 months to now a year you were in HLA. Coming from the asshole.
I don't know Danny. Where are you getting your 3-6 month figure from? Have you been listening to Whooter John again? I warned you about that Danny.
So then so far you still seem to be coming up empty on everything. Is this really the best you can do?
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This was all settled years ago but it seems to be emerging again. Bruce was specifically given an "Honorary" Survival status so he wouldn't need to continue to lie about his time in a program anymore. A few weeks in a program is nothing to be ashamed of. There is no need to lie about how long he spent there. I am not sure why he keeps upping his time there again.
Seems to be manifesting itself into a Napoleon like complex over time
Speak of the bad father!
Are you ever going to work up the courage to back up this claim Johnny? I mean so far you seem pretty impotent.
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Oh wow, Danny has a kid? That's terrible. Does anyone have the number for Georgia Childrens Services?
How did we get from 3-6 months to now a year you were in HLA. Coming from the asshole.
I don't know Danny. Where are you getting your 3-6 month figure from? Have you been listening to Whooter John again? I warned you about that Danny.
So then so far you still seem to be coming up empty on everything. Is this really the best you can do?
Really, prove it RB....prove how long you were in HLA. I can prove how long I was at Elan.
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Really, prove it RB....prove how long you were in HLA. I can prove how long I was at Elan.
Of course you can. Just scan your W-2's from your employment there and you'll be good to go. Of course no one actually doubts that you worked there. Truthfully I'm more inclined to doubt you ever stopped. As brainwashed as you are by the party line, I can't imagine you ever leaving.
Now as far my providing evidence of the length of my incarceration at HLA, are you asking me to disprove yours and your messiah's baseless claim? Whooter John has gone on for years claiming I was only locked up in HLA for three weeks without any basis or evidence to support his claim. Now here you come due to your man crush jumping on his bandwagon claiming I was only locked up for 3 to 6 months. Neither one of you can prove any of this, but because you say so you think I should? The truth is with some amount of digging and paper work redacting I can prove it. The question then becomes, why should I ? It's your claim, you back it up. The fact remains you have no proof or evidence of any kind.
If you want to play this game with me son you can, but I promise you won't like where I take it, and in the end you'll still lose, because you're still wrong.
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"I won't like where you take it", please take it, trust me, you my friend have been called, ever play poker Robbie, I am calling your hand. Now, be still and lay down your credentials.
Robert quiet down and type, your not talking to Whooter, your talking to me now and I beg you to bring it. Your a fabricator plain and simple, prove your existence. I can prove my residency there from 6/75 till 1/77 resident and my employment from 1/77 till 11/78.
See everything you folks accuse Whooter of I have a stinking feeling we have folks here that are doing the same thing (misrepresenting themselves) but folks believe because they are helping the cause it is alright, no it is not. Especially if you are demanding others come clean.
This is what I believe you are all about, there it is plain and simple, Robbie.
You have been called out and I really have nothing more to say or answer until you have proved your a survivor.
So you've been busted and shown that you can't back up your claim, but you expect me to do it for you? Be specific now son.
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Really, prove it RB....prove how long you were in HLA. I can prove how long I was at Elan.
Of course you can. Just scan your W-2's from your employment there and you'll be good to go. Of course no one actually doubts that you worked there. Truthfully I'm more inclined to doubt you ever stopped. As brainwashed as you are by the party line, I can't imagine you ever leaving.
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Now as far my providing evidence of the length of my incarceration at HLA, are you asking me to disprove yours and your messiah's baseless claim? Whooter John has gone on for years claiming I was only locked up in HLA for three weeks without any basis or evidence to support his claim. Now here you come due to your man crush jumping on his bandwagon claiming I was only locked up for 3 to 6 months. Neither one of you can prove any of this, but because you say so you think I should? The truth is with some amount of digging and paper work redacting I can prove it. The question then becomes, why should I ? It's your claim, you back it up. The fact remains you have no proof or evidence of any kind.
This is mumbo jumbo, you said nothing. Prove yourself.
If you want to play this game with me son you can, but I promise you won't like where I take it, and in the end you'll still lose, because you're still wrong.
"I won't like where you take it", please take it, trust me, you my friend have been called, ever play poker Robbie, I am calling your hand. Now, be still and lay down your credentials.
Robert quiet down and type, your not talking to Whooter, your talking to me now and I beg you to bring it. Your a fabricator plain and simple, prove your existence. I can prove my residency there from 6/75 till 1/77 resident and my employment from 1/77 till 11/78.
See everything you folks accuse Whooter of I have a stinking feeling we have folks here that are doing the same thing (misrepresenting themselves) but folks believe because they are helping the cause it is alright, no it is not. Especially if you are demanding others come clean.
This is what I believe you are all about, there it is plain and simple, Robbie.
You have been called out and I really have nothing more to say or answer until you have proved your a survivor.
BTW, I have never said that I was totally out of the TTI. I volunteer, I donate, I am a avid fund raiser and I support kids who need help, that they get it. So lets be clear where I stand. I have never hid this part of my life here.
Now you being as lazy and ignorant as the next here, when you run out of bad things to say about me, you will bring up my employment at Elan from 17yrs old to 19yrs old. Good ploy there Robbie.
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Really, prove it RB....prove how long you were in HLA. I can prove how long I was at Elan.
Of course you can. Just scan your W-2's from your employment there and you'll be good to go. Of course no one actually doubts that you worked there. Truthfully I'm more inclined to doubt you ever stopped. As brainwashed as you are by the party line, I can't imagine you ever leaving.
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Now as far my providing evidence of the length of my incarceration at HLA, are you asking me to disprove yours and your messiah's baseless claim? Whooter John has gone on for years claiming I was only locked up in HLA for three weeks without any basis or evidence to support his claim. Now here you come due to your man crush jumping on his bandwagon claiming I was only locked up for 3 to 6 months. Neither one of you can prove any of this, but because you say so you think I should? The truth is with some amount of digging and paper work redacting I can prove it. The question then becomes, why should I ? It's your claim, you back it up. The fact remains you have no proof or evidence of any kind.
This is mumbo jumbo, you said nothing. Prove yourself.
If you want to play this game with me son you can, but I promise you won't like where I take it, and in the end you'll still lose, because you're still wrong.
"I won't like where you take it", please take it, trust me, you my friend have been called, ever play poker Robbie, I am calling your hand. Now, be still and lay down your credentials.
Robert quiet down and type, your not talking to Whooter, your talking to me now and I beg you to bring it. Your a fabricator plain and simple, prove your existence. I can prove my residency there from 6/75 till 1/77 resident and my employment from 1/77 till 11/78.
See everything you folks accuse Whooter of I have a stinking feeling we have folks here that are doing the same thing (misrepresenting themselves) but folks believe because they are helping the cause it is alright, no it is not. Especially if you are demanding others come clean.
This is what I believe you are all about, there it is plain and simple, Robbie.
You have been called out and I really have nothing more to say or answer until you have proved your a survivor.
BTW, I have never said that I was totally out of the TTI. I volunteer, I donate, I am a avid fund raiser and I support kids who need help, that they get it. So lets be clear where I stand. I have never hid this part of my life here.
Now you being as lazy and ignorant as the next here, when you run out of bad things to say about me, you will bring up my employment at Elan from 17yrs old to 19yrs old. Good ploy there Robbie.
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Really, prove it RB....prove how long you were in HLA. I can prove how long I was at Elan.
Of course you can. Just scan your W-2's from your employment there and you'll be good to go. Of course no one actually doubts that you worked there. Truthfully I'm more inclined to doubt you ever stopped. As brainwashed as you are by the party line, I can't imagine you ever leaving.
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Now as far my providing evidence of the length of my incarceration at HLA, are you asking me to disprove yours and your messiah's baseless claim? Whooter John has gone on for years claiming I was only locked up in HLA for three weeks without any basis or evidence to support his claim. Now here you come due to your man crush jumping on his bandwagon claiming I was only locked up for 3 to 6 months. Neither one of you can prove any of this, but because you say so you think I should? The truth is with some amount of digging and paper work redacting I can prove it. The question then becomes, why should I ? It's your claim, you back it up. The fact remains you have no proof or evidence of any kind.
This is mumbo jumbo, you said nothing. Prove yourself.
If you want to play this game with me son you can, but I promise you won't like where I take it, and in the end you'll still lose, because you're still wrong.
"I won't like where you take it", please take it, trust me, you my friend have been called, ever play poker Robbie, I am calling your hand. Now, be still and lay down your credentials.
Robert quiet down and type, your not talking to Whooter, your talking to me now and I beg you to bring it. Your a fabricator plain and simple, prove your existence. I can prove my residency there from 6/75 till 1/77 resident and my employment from 1/77 till 11/78.
See everything you folks accuse Whooter of I have a stinking feeling we have folks here that are doing the same thing (misrepresenting themselves) but folks believe because they are helping the cause it is alright, no it is not. Especially if you are demanding others come clean.
This is what I believe you are all about, there it is plain and simple, Robbie.
You have been called out and I really have nothing more to say or answer until you have proved your a survivor.
BTW, I have never said that I was totally out of the TTI. I volunteer, I donate, I am a avid fund raiser and I support kids who need help, that they get it. So lets be clear where I stand. I have never hid this part of my life here.
Now you being as lazy and ignorant as the next here, when you run out of bad things to say about me, you will bring up my employment at Elan from 17yrs old to 19yrs old. Good ploy there Robbie.
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"I won't like where you take it", please take it, trust me, you my friend have been called, ever play poker Robbie, I am calling your hand. Now, be still and lay down your credentials.
Robert quiet down and type, your not talking to Whooter, your talking to me now and I beg you to bring it. Your a fabricator plain and simple, prove your existence. I can prove my residency there from 6/75 till 1/77 resident and my employment from 1/77 till 11/78.
See everything you folks accuse Whooter of I have a stinking feeling we have folks here that are doing the same thing (misrepresenting themselves) but folks believe because they are helping the cause it is alright, no it is not. Especially if you are demanding others come clean.
This is what I believe you are all about, there it is plain and simple, Robbie.
You have been called out and I really have nothing more to say or answer until you have proved your a survivor.
So you've been busted and shown that you can't back up your claim, but you expect me to do it for you? Be specific now son.
Your making an ass out of yourself buddy,See everything you folks accuse Whooter of, I have done too, especially if you are demanding others come clean. Robbie quiet down , Your not talking to Whooter buddy !!!, Your a fabricator plain and simple, prove your existence.I can prove mine. I was under the impression this was your mastery, bloviating. Robbie, I am very good at this game you like to play. Keep spinning. I already know what happened. Trust me better then you. your an arrogant pig who irritated the wrong people. Now, if you know so much, please explain where all your influence is,. I am not going back and picking out your posts where you have plagiarized someone else experiences and embellished on them. It is obvious you have really no actual real time experiences and like a lot of other posters here, found a web site to act out ambitio...Robbie you have for weeks probably months been making arbitrary statements here about abuse at treatment centers, arguing with members about issues they can not even back up. Both of them have set up threads of late that are actually idiotic, So wise up pal, I watch thease threads for people like you Robbie,You have been called out and I really have nothing more to say or answer until you have proved your a survivor.
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First of all I want to apolagise to everyone here for the the title of this idiotic thread. I want apolagise to Robert and Shaggy. I want to apolagise to every one else I insulted on this thread so far. It was a stupid idea and I deeply regret it already. Please ignore all future comments from me. I am drinking and doing smack again. Ahhh beautiful powerlessness.
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I was wondering why you were making up false allegations to smear a program survivor. Is it just because you disagree with shaggy and RobertBruce or because they weren't powerless and stood up to their program abusers?
I thought we were past your denigrating baseless commentary about people you never met, but I guess we're right back to it.
If you want I can teach you how to overcome your powerlessness. It's not easy for someone like you, but it can be done. First, put down the dope and booze for a while so we can formulate a clear plan. Then, after we're complete, you can use alcohol and horse in moderation and not be powerless over them and everything else in your life. We'll help you out, dude.
Heck, I just harvested some intense greens and I only smoke it before bed. See? It's not that hard.
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I think it is very kind and thoughtful of DJ to offer Danny some help. It is clear that he desperately needs it. Danny please engage DJ in a dialogue concerning your drug use. You come here telling everyone how great these programs are and yet you remain mired in heavy use of illegal drugs. You are not a very good example of what program graduates turn out to be. Anyway, please accept DJ's offer of help. O0
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So because Felice are resident "whack job" puts up some posts, resembling me, you guys have to run around with your cocks in your hands waving them. Oh, look at me I got Danny now. Bunch of freaking nerds hanging out in the paper room talking about how you saw Biffy's underware.
Grow up guys, Felice is back, so the Danny B11 and Danny B ll will be back. Check the registration dates. Felice have fun in the cellar because your never hitting the first floor again.
Danny you have admitted to sharing your computer and having some "issues" so why would anyone think that Danny is not in fact Danny? I think you need some counseling from DJ and/or any others willing to volunteer for the job. Just think about it is all I'm sayin.
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I was wondering why you were making up false allegations to smear a program survivor. Is it just because you disagree with shaggy and RobertBruce or because they weren't powerless and stood up to their program abusers?
I thought we were past your denigrating baseless commentary about people you never met, but I guess we're right back to it.
If you want I can teach you how to overcome your powerlessness. It's not easy for someone like you, but it can be done. First, put down the dope and booze for a while so we can formulate a clear plan. Then, after we're complete, you can use alcohol and horse in moderation and not be powerless over them and everything else in your life. We'll help you out, dude.
Heck, I just harvested some intense greens and I only smoke it before bed. See? It's not that hard.
I'm confused by the questions on this post. If I'm reading it properly I'm being asked which abuse is worse,?? I will say and do as I wish,DJ. Who and what are you basing this factual information on, one poster. Ummmm, from the post directly above yours, Shaggy is a Moron and shows that all the time.Com'on Dysfunction, they said this and they said that, bottom line the programs will be back open soon. Yep, probably.....just like Straight did under a different name to avoid the bad publicity. Now what are you doing about that. I guess my answer would be it doesn't really matter where it takes place, abuse is abuse and it is a horrible thing no matter where .Here Whooter is posing as an Aspen Ranch “graduate” and telling people not to tell him he’s lying. Well, I guess that makes it believable then? Fail, Whooter. Fail. I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! He is a fraud and liar, I am calling your hand.DJ, I thought we were past your denigrating baseless commentary about people you never met, but I guess we're right back to it . I am very good at this game you like to play. Keep spinning. I already know what happened s. Trust me I am better then you.
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Here Whooter is posing as an Aspen Ranch “graduate” and telling people not to tell him he’s lying. Well, I guess that makes it believable then? Fail, Whooter. Fail. I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! He is a fraud and liar, I am calling your hand.
Actually it was a post from an Aspen Graduate, I failed to add the link at the time. I have since updated the post to reflect the originator. It was posted by an Aspen Graduate named KJ.
Hope that helps to clear it up.
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Here Whooter is posing as an Aspen Ranch “graduate” and telling people not to tell him he’s lying. Well, I guess that makes it believable then? Fail, Whooter. Fail. I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! He is a fraud and liar, I am calling your hand.
Actually it was a post from an Aspen Graduate, I failed to add the link at the time. I have since updated the post to reflect the originator. It was posted by an Aspen Graduate named KJ.
Hope that helps to clear it up.
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Your still a fraud buddy, quit the lie's to yourself,no one believes you, I know these people and they laugh at you and your doctored up post from others.I get PM's all day from people, just telling me how your a joke. I am Danny not some other moron around here I know the scoop got it pal,!!. Go back to your end of the web.
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So because Felice are resident "whack job" puts up some posts, resembling me, you guys have to run around with your cocks in your hands waving them. Oh, look at me I got Danny now. Bunch of freaking nerds hanging out in the paper room talking about how you saw Biffy's underware.
Grow up guys, Felice is back, so the Danny B11 and Danny B ll will be back. Check the registration dates. Felice have fun in the cellar because your never hitting the first floor again.
Danny you have admitted to sharing your computer and having some "issues" so why would anyone think that Danny is not in fact Danny? I think you need some counseling from DJ and/or any others willing to volunteer for the job. Just think about it is all I'm sayin.
DJ's Bag Puppet Shaggy
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Here Whooter is posing as an Aspen Ranch “graduate” and telling people not to tell him he’s lying. Well, I guess that makes it believable then? Fail, Whooter. Fail. I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! He is a fraud and liar, I am calling your hand.
Actually it was a post from an Aspen Graduate, I failed to add the link at the time. I have since updated the post to reflect the originator. It was posted by an Aspen Graduate named KJ.
Hope that helps to clear it up.
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Your still a fraud buddy, quit the lie's to yourself,no one believes you, I know these people and they laugh at you and your doctored up post from others.I get PM's all day from people, just telling me how your a joke. I am Danny not some other moron around here I know the scoop got it pal,!!. Go back to your end of the web.
Calm down, DannyB ll, thats no reason to get all upset. If you feel the posts are doctored up then just ignore them. What I typically do is identify a number of posters who I feel either dont add value or dont have any credibility and then just skip over their posts. There is no reason to get upset over them.
Give it a try, fornits is suppose to be enjoyable. Focus on the good stuff.
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Danny I'm still waiting on you to lay out your challenge. It seems clear at this point that you can't back up yours or Whooter John's claim, and are now attempting to change the subject. If that's the case all you have to do is say so and the matter is closed. No hard feelings. If you choose to stick to your water pistols on this one it's your choice, but I promise you you're going to come out with egg on your face.
Before you make your decsion there's probably something you should keep in mind. I get that Whooter has sort of taken you under his wing, and you feel a little like his sidekick. I understand that he's feeding you a lot of the things you're saying in the hopes that you'll do his dirty work for him. Whooter doesn't want to get involved in this conversation because he knows whatever standards you try and apply to me, are just going to be turned around and applied to him. He's using you the same way HLA staff members used him. Do a little back reading and see where Whooter John's motivations are coming from. He has lost countless arguments with me Danny. He's doesn't want a repeat of his shame. Don't let him use you Danny, break the cycle, I know you can do it. I understand that you've got some issues when it comes to articulating your thoughts, and coming up with logical arguments. I understand you aren't very bright and you look to Whooter John to fill in the gaps for you. While Whooter is many things, he's not that stupid. In his own sociopath way he has some degree of intelligence. This however is only ever used for his child abusing agenda. Make sure you have all the facts before you jump on board his bandwagon.
That being said let's get back to the issue at hand. You have two choices :
A. You can admit you made up your claim and have no basis or knowledge regarding your comments concerning my length of stay at HLA, nor do you have any evidence to suggest I am lying when I state the fact that I was incarcerated there for one year. You admit it say you're sorry and we move on. Fresh start and I'll never bring it up to you again.
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B. You can push the issue and be proven wrong. In the end that's what going to happen Danny. You're getting your information from Whooter, who in turn got his information from a HLA staff member who broke HIPPA laws and released personal information regarding a former inmate. The problem is the staff at HLA never actually knew who I was, so the information was never good to begin with.
Now keep in mind if you choose option 'B' I am going to ask that you be very specific in what you're looking for, and that you be willing to provide the same information and documentation yourself before hand. I want to see exactly what is you're looking for. Also keep in mind you have to accept that any standards that you attempt to hold me to are going to be applied to you as well. Also no crying about it afterwards. Remember I warned you that you wouldnt like where I take this. I am in fact a lot better at this then you are. Despite the fact that you came on here with a lot of anger towards people you don't know and dont know anything about, I dont have any ill will towards you, and I view you as harmless. I'd be willing when this is all over no matter which choice make to bury the hatchet and let you really try and talk to people here without all the nonsense.
Let me know what you want to do.
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Option A or B, even in bold letters, still works out to 21 one days.
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Option A or B, even in bold letters, still works out to 21 one days.
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Yeah... On that dark stormy night in the burnt down Gulag the seceret meeting that Fornits admin held that you got mad over because you were not invited to attend where he got survivor staus .... :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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Danny I'm still waiting on you to lay out your challenge. It seems clear at this point that you can't back up yours or Whooter John's claim, and are now attempting to change the subject. If that's the case all you have to do is say so and the matter is closed. No hard feelings. If you choose to stick to your water pistols on this one it's your choice, but I promise you you're going to come out with egg on your face.
Before you make your decsion there's probably something you should keep in mind. I get that Whooter has sort of taken you under his wing, and you feel a little like his sidekick. I understand that he's feeding you a lot of the things you're saying in the hopes that you'll do his dirty work for him. Whooter doesn't want to get involved in this conversation because he knows whatever standards you try and apply to me, are just going to be turned around and applied to him. He's using you the same way HLA staff members used him. Do a little back reading and see where Whooter John's motivations are coming from. He has lost countless arguments with me Danny. He's doesn't want a repeat of his shame. Don't let him use you Danny, break the cycle, I know you can do it. I understand that you've got some issues when it comes to articulating your thoughts, and coming up with logical arguments. I understand you aren't very bright and you look to Whooter John to fill in the gaps for you. While Whooter is many things, he's not that stupid. In his own sociopath way he has some degree of intelligence. This however is only ever used for his child abusing agenda. Make sure you have all the facts before you jump on board his bandwagon.
That being said let's get back to the issue at hand. You have two choices :
A. You can admit you made up your claim and have no basis or knowledge regarding your comments concerning my length of stay at HLA, nor do you have any evidence to suggest I am lying when I state the fact that I was incarcerated there for one year. You admit it say you're sorry and we move on. Fresh start and I'll never bring it up to you again.
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B. You can push the issue and be proven wrong. In the end that's what going to happen Danny. You're getting your information from Whooter, who in turn got his information from a HLA staff member who broke HIPPA laws and released personal information regarding a former inmate. The problem is the staff at HLA never actually knew who I was, so the information was never good to begin with.
Now keep in mind if you choose option 'B' I am going to ask that you be very specific in what you're looking for, and that you be willing to provide the same information and documentation yourself before hand. I want to see exactly what is you're looking for. Also keep in mind you have to accept that any standards that you attempt to hold me to are going to be applied to you as well. Also no crying about it afterwards. Remember I warned you that you wouldnt like where I take this. I am in fact a lot better at this then you are. Despite the fact that you came on here with a lot of anger towards people you don't know and dont know anything about, I dont have any ill will towards you, and I view you as harmless. I'd be willing when this is all over no matter which choice make to bury the hatchet and let you really try and talk to people here without all the nonsense.
Let me know what you want to do.
I wont respond to any demands, I am not the one in question you are, You can admit you made up your claim and have no basis or knowledge regarding your comments concerning my length of stay at any program, nor do you have any evidence to suggest I am lying when I state the fact that I was incarcerated there for one year. I wont say I am sorry and we move on. Your not worth the time or regard, I will continue to speak the truth. Danny
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Option A or B, even in bold letters, still works out to 21 one days.
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You people still don't get it. Whooter knows for a fact how long Robert was at HLA and also knows his real identity. Come on, how do you think he could possibly know Robert was there exactly 21 days unless he had contacts inside the program? You people constantly underestimate this man.
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Option A or B, even in bold letters, still works out to 21 one days.
You people still don't get it. Whooter knows for a fact how long Robert was at HLA and also knows his real identity. Come on, how do you think he could possibly know Robert was there exactly 21 days unless he had contacts inside the program? You people constantly underestimate this man.
We don't underestimate him. We've known all along that he has financial ties to the TTI. He just keeps denying it.
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And how do you "know" this, Anne? I think it's safe to say that only me and Danny actually know the whole story, but watching you jump thru hoops passes the time. So please explain.
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Max I thought you were leaving?
While I don't doubt that Whooter John Reuben has connections to the industry, he doesn't know who I am. If he did he might actually provide real information about me. Every claim Whooter has made about me has been wrong. Hence why he can't provide any evidence. Your claim that because he provided a number without any form of documentation and it somehow constitutes as proof is somewhat ridiculus. Watch this: Hey Max, remember the four years you spent in Gitmo for your ties to Al Queda? See that? I provided a number, it must be true!
As it stands he's just repeating what his fellow child abusers over at HLA told him. The fact remains though that they never knew who I was either. If they did they would have tried to sue me. They would have lost, but they still would have tried.
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Option A or B, even in bold letters, still works out to 21 one days.
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Not sure where the bold letters came from. Anyway, I'm still waiting on you John to man up and provide some evidence. While you're cowering in fear over that I have another question for you; After keeping Max locked up for his mothers funeral did you let him attend Mike's? You remember him don't you John?
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I wont respond to any demands, I am not the one in question you are, You can admit you made up your claim and have no basis or knowledge regarding your comments concerning my length of stay at any program, nor do you have any evidence to suggest I am lying when I state the fact that I was incarcerated there for one year. I wont say I am sorry and we move on. Your not worth the time or regard, I will continue to speak the truth. Danny
Or at the very least you'll continue to speak whatever Whooter John tells you to. Seriously though, at what age did you lose your backbone? Also it's still "you're".
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Robert, when were you in HLA. Simple, answer the question then we move on to the next question.
One at a time.
What Day-Month-Year did you start HLA and when did you end being honest is essential.
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Sounds like a great plan, I'm all for it. You first though. What program did you attend, and when?
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You already have this here a 100 times over. Elan- 6/13/75 till 1/7/77
Fantastic, we're already off to a great start. To answer your question I have no idea what the exact day was, but I can tell you it was June of 1996, and I was there for approximately one year.
What's your next question?
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Robert, having someones information and revealing it, is two separate things, both come with risks. Revealing info is a risk many here would rather not take. One- it can get you banned from here permanently, probably, Two- legal ramifications, Three- not very humane.
Gathering info is not as difficult as folks like to believe. Posting on web sites is always a great way to track folks, we all slip and give little details.
Not a bad point, however how does this reflect back on Whooter John when you consider the fact that he in fact did attempt to blackmail me with what he believed was personal information regarding me. Whatsmore, after I made it beyond clear to him that he had nothing and his threats were meaningless, he did go so far as to release information he believes is accurate in regards to me. So since this is someone you seem to cling to and believe so ardently, do you condone his actions?
The fact is John never had any information on me. If he had any proof he would have provided it long ago. What he does have is bad information obtained in a completly illegal way. Hence why all he can ever do is make little comments he's too afraid to admit he can't back up.
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Anyway, I'm still waiting on you and John to man up Danny and provide some evidence and truth about yourself. While you're cowering in fear over that I have another question for you; Why did you drag that girl from the car at Elan School Danny ,?? John has brought that up a couple of times, and you run from it, just answer the question Danny...
The fact is John never had any information on me. If he had any proof he would have provided it long ago. What he does have is bad information obtained in a completly illegal way. Hence why all he can ever do is make little comments he's too afraid to admit he can't back up.Robbie, having someones information and revealing it, is two separate things, both come with risks. Revealing info is a risk many here would rather not take. One- it can get you banned from here permanently, probably, Two- legal ramifications, Three- not very humane. Gathering info is not as difficult as folks like to believe. Posting on web sites is always a great way to track folks, we all slip and give little details While I don't doubt that Whooter John Reuben has connections to the industry, he doesn't know who I am. If he did he might actually provide real information about me. Every claim Whooter has made about me has been wrong. And how do you "know" this, Anne? I think it's safe to say that only me, Danny actually know the whole story, but watching you jump thru hoops passes the time. So please explain. I wont respond to any demands, I am not the one in question you are Robbie, You can admit you made up your claim's and have no basis or knowledge regarding your comments concerning me at any program, nor do you have any evidence to suggest I am lying when I state the fact that I was incarcerated for one year. I wont say I am sorry and we move on. Your not worth the time or regard, I will continue to speak the truth. As for as the dragging incident that everyone is talking about I do recall that story and I was doing what I had to to survive, Haven't you ever done something you kind of regretted,? Well thats my confession and guilt. What do you want to know about next. And I didn't drag her, I was just in the car, kind of different would you say,? Know the fact's first buster. Get a life Robbie, Danny.
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OK Robbie we believe you now, OK? People like me and Danny know better because without the programs we went to we'd be dead. That's obvious. If Danny didn't have the tools the program gave him then after he got out of several programs and really started drinking and drugging he would have been in prison a lot longer than if he didn't go to a few programs and it would have taken him longer than 10 years to get sober too.
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OK Robbie we believe you now, OK? People like me and Danny know better because without the programs we went to we'd be dead. That's obvious. If Danny didn't have the tools the program gave him then after he got out of several programs and really started drinking and drugging he would have been in prison a lot longer than if he didn't go to a few programs and it would have taken him longer than 10 years to get sober too.
You extremeists come out of the woodwork to attack me but I was just a victim of an extinct oldschool program just like some of you were. Look, I was told to get the weight off the girl and I did what I thought was right. If I didn't do it then I would be put in the Ring and forced to fistfight other residents that were probably tougher than that girl so I did what I should have done. Because she was weaker, I was able to do it and get the staffs approval instead of, having to fight a bigger kid. Any of us faced with choice would have dragged that girl too because it was just for exercise because she was too fat. I have no idea why you keep making a big deal out of it. I have said many times I did it and did it for her own good, which I did, And hopefully she has kept the weight off.I will admit no open wrong doing, just doing what I was told. Danny.
I It Wasn't For Programs, I Would Be Dead :peace: :peace: :peace:
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Where's your next question Danny? Let's not lose the momentum.
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Where's your next question Danny? Let's not lose the momentum.
I notice in your long rambling blathering against me Robbie, you carefully dodged explaining why you somehow changed the subject from you to me in your attempts to defend Anne, you look like a fool like her, while trolling me. The fact is you've been outed as a liar once again. Only those posters who can't quite grasp reality due to their limited abilities (Robbie) buy into your nonsense. You remain in the negative when it comes to your credibility Robbie. The more time passes the more your online antics will bleed into your day to day life. Keep it up son your just another Pig of the program system.You should be dragged from a car,LOL, :cheers: Keep the drama going Robbie, you never were able to just contribute and have a conversation with people without having to introduce some sort of drama. You have been destined to live in the troll forum forever I believe, Danny has spoken.
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Where's your next question Danny? Let's not lose the momentum.
I notice in your long rambling blathering against me Robbie, you carefully dodged explaining why you somehow changed the subject from you to me in your attempts to defend Anne, you look like a fool like her, while trolling me. The fact is you've been outed as a liar once again. Only those posters who can't quite grasp reality due to their limited abilities (Robbie) buy into your nonsense. You remain in the negative when it comes to your credibility Robbie. The more time passes the more your online antics will bleed into your day to day life. Keep it up son your just another Pig of the program system.You should be dragged from a car,LOL, :cheers: Keep the drama going Robbie, you never were able to just contribute and have a conversation with people without having to introduce some sort of drama. You have been destined to live in the troll forum forever I believe, Danny has spoken.
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Danny, if you need help figuring out how to use the quote function, just ask. Meanwhile I'm still waiting on your next question.
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Quotation Lesson #1: You WILL be quoted!
Whooter finally admits his whole story here is straight cock-and-bull nonsense.
Here he admits to having his SON sent to Second Nature Wilderness: (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28642&start=15#p382352)
Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.
Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here. The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.
Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.
Face it.....you got busted buddy boy.
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I admit that, Anne, but read through the thread and see what they did to this woman "worried Anne" and calling her son gay and pretending to be survivors with her son.
I dont see it as being wrong at all. I feel sorry for the woman. I would probably do it again if the situation warranted.
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Finally forced to admit his whole story here is bullshit. Priceless.
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Anyway, I'm still waiting on you and John to man up Danny and provide some evidence and truth about yourself. While you're cowering in fear over that I have another question for you; Why did you drag that girl from the car at Elan School Danny ,?? John has brought that up a couple of times, and you run from it, just answer the question Danny...
The fact is John never had any information on me. If he had any proof he would have provided it long ago. What he does have is bad information obtained in a completly illegal way. Hence why all he can ever do is make little comments he's too afraid to admit he can't back up.Robbie, having someones information and revealing it, is two separate things, both come with risks. Revealing info is a risk many here would rather not take. One- it can get you banned from here permanently, probably, Two- legal ramifications, Three- not very humane. Gathering info is not as difficult as folks like to believe. Posting on web sites is always a great way to track folks, we all slip and give little details While I don't doubt that Whooter John Reuben has connections to the industry, he doesn't know who I am. If he did he might actually provide real information about me. Every claim Whooter has made about me has been wrong. And how do you "know" this, Anne? I think it's safe to say that only me, Danny actually know the whole story, but watching you jump thru hoops passes the time. So please explain. I wont respond to any demands, I am not the one in question you are Robbie, You can admit you made up your claim's and have no basis or knowledge regarding your comments concerning me at any program, nor do you have any evidence to suggest I am lying when I state the fact that I was incarcerated for one year. I wont say I am sorry and we move on. Your not worth the time or regard, I will continue to speak the truth. As for as the dragging incident that everyone is talking about I do recall that story and I was doing what I had to to survive, Haven't you ever done something you kind of regretted,? Well thats my confession and guilt. What do you want to know about next. And I didn't drag her, I was just in the car, kind of different would you say,? Know the fact's first buster. Get a life Robbie, Danny.
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Speaking of Elan's programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from Elan with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a Elan like orgy until I was in the woods of Maine, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens at Elan, it was insane, but fun in a sick kind of way.Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here. The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that. Your welcome, my friends really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day at Elan which has motivated me to study harder.And never give up my fight for programs and their success." Anne" was worried that calling her son the gay-blade and pretending to be survivors with her son. would gain her acceptance here, but she is wrong. Was she sucking cock with him,did they share the boyfriend ?? I dont see it as being wrong at all. I feel sorry for the woman. But I would probably do it again if the situation warranted. I know I would, I am always looking out for others that way. Danny Has Spoken.
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Hey that's a great story. So where's your next question? I thought you were all for proving something Danny.
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Robert, we need the Month, Day and Year. You seem to be able to remember verbatim exactly what legalities transpired between Buchi and HLA but stumble on your dates being a inmate (your word).
So a day is not difficult, especially a day that is as important as the day your incarceration (your word)started at HLA.
Robert, this information is insufficient (June of 1996), all the information needs to be supplied. Hey, I gave you what you wanted, fair is fair. I would also like to mention that there is a level of honesty expected in your answer.
I'm glad to see finally coming to understand that we were inmates, and we were incarcerated. It's good to see you making some progress. Now then, to answer your question I have first tell you that I don't cling to the date of my incarceration at HLA like a milestone as you apparently do. It was a year of being abused and wasting time that did me no good. It was something I was glad to move on from and I honestly didn't really talk much about it at all until I came onto fornits.
That being said you're right when you say fair is fair. You did give me an exact date and I should do the same for you. I know classes ended the last week of May in my public highschool, and I know I left a little over two weeks later for HLA. So I will say the date of my incarceration was 06/17/96.
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Robert, we need the Month, Day and Year. You seem to be able to remember verbatim exactly what legalities transpired between Buchi and HLA but stumble on your dates being a inmate (your word).
So a day is not difficult, especially a day that is as important as the day your incarceration (your word)started at HLA.
Robert, this information is insufficient (June of 1996), all the information needs to be supplied. Hey, I gave you what you wanted, fair is fair. I would also like to mention that there is a level of honesty expected in your answer.
I'm glad to see finally coming to understand that we were inmates, and we were incarcerated.
Just to jump in and clarify quickly. You will notice that in parenthesis after the words inmate and incarceration he wrote "Your word". Parenthesis are used as a clarifier or as an explanatory. The parenthesized (Your word) is indicating that he does not believe in the descriptor and therefore means just the opposite of what you came to understand that you both agreed on this terminology.
I hope this helps to clear things up.
The words incarceration and inmate are your descriptive words, Bruce. People outside of fornits (or outside of that thinking) do not use these in the same context that you do,
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This is what he's trying to avoid, Robert. He finally admitted he's been lying about his made-up daughter for many years and also admits that he's fine with lying as long as it's to advance his agenda of promoting programs. "The ends justify the means" in the warped mind of this congenital liar.
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Whooter finally admits his whole story here is straight cock-and-bull nonsense.
Here he admits to having his SON sent to Second Nature Wilderness: (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28642&start=15#p382352)
Speaking of wilderness programs and sex, it happens all the time... at least when I was there it did. Its not like they handed out condoms so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the girls go home from wilderness with a whole new set of issues brewing inside them. I never saw a wild tribe like orgy until I was in wilderness, and don't think the staff don't join in. Parents have no idea what happens out there, it was insane.
Thanks guest,I knew it wasnt as bad as people were saying here. The kids do have fun on these trips, I kind of thought that.
Your welcome, my son really liked it and would like to become a counselor some day which has motivated him to study harder.
Face it.....you got busted buddy boy.
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I admit that, Anne, but read through the thread and see what they did to this woman "worried Anne" and calling her son gay and pretending to be survivors with her son.
I dont see it as being wrong at all. I feel sorry for the woman. I would probably do it again if the situation warranted.
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Finally forced to admit his whole story here is bullshit. Priceless.
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please identify the staff member you beat up, please. Where out back were you placed to live for a month.
Joe something. He was on restrictions staff Short stocky guy, always walked around with one of those water backpacks. It wasn't quite a month. As I mentioned most of the time we were sent out to Devil's Kitchen, but they moved me around some. Probably to keep me from running away.
Now I'll ask you again Danny, how long did you work at HLA?
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Come on Danny, I thought you had a long list of questions. We're never going to get through this if you can't pick up the pace. I'm sure you've got plenty of Jewish temples you're wanting to burn, but that's not really something you should be playing with anyway. Get to it son.
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Well I'm actually a Christian, but I would never support your hobby of targeting Jews or their places of worship.
On the other front thank you for once again reinforcing that you dont know a thing about or who I am. Keep compiling son.
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Really? You can specify religion in the mail order brides?
Just kidding. I don't believe you have a wife. Again I'm fairly certain no woman has ever had consensual sex with you, without you paying for it first.
That aside for now I'm still eagerly awaiting your next question. Get on it son.
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Robert, have you ever read anything I have wrote that resembles what you are writing now
Yes. You aren't nearly as clever, but you try.
Did you have another question?
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Told you I was better at this than you. You just aren't good enough son. Now head back to your pop up version of Mein Kampf.
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You first son.
Thank you. That will be all.
DannyB, I have been having conversations with robertbruce, on and off, for years now and I have concluded that he is just afraid to speak openly with anyone. He has a need to insult people and/or attack them whenever there is a disagreement. I have decided to try it once more with a softer approach to see if he is willing to be civil and discuss some issues openly without any insults. But we will see how it goes.
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Interesting comment coming from Whooter considering he avoids accountability like the plauge and has literally hundreds of unaswered questions floating out there.
I've made numerous offers to have civil conversations with both of you. In both instances you've both either rejected the offer and returned to your typical nonsense by fabricating stories about me or other posters as an attempt at defense, or simply running scared.
That being said I am still willing to make the attempt provided you can both avoid playing your games. That means answering the questions made to you, accepting the answers I give you, even if they are 'I don't know', and try to avoid attempting insults or attacks.
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Robert, have you ever read anything I have wrote that resembles what you are writing now
Yes. You aren't nearly as clever, but you try.
Did you have another question?
Post it.
Two birds one stone. I'm proving both points here:
Re: Wayne Kernochan
by DannyB II » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:55 pm
Paul St. John wrote:
Danny obviously responded to the post, without even taking the time to understand it.
And by his comment of Ursus being loose with his authority, still has not taken the time to read it and understand it.
Paul
PS It's okay Danny.. You can put away the stapler.
Paul STFU, Pussy.
http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=30841&p=371107&hilit=+pussy#p371107
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Interesting comment coming from Whooter considering he avoids accountability like the plauge and has literally hundreds of unaswered questions floating out there.
I've made numerous offers to have civil conversations with both of you. In both instances you've both either rejected the offer and returned to your typical nonsense by fabricating stories about me or other posters as an attempt at defense, or simply running scared.
That being said I am still willing to make the attempt provided you can both avoid playing your games. That means answering the questions made to you, accepting the answers I give you, even if they are 'I don't know', and try to avoid attempting insults or attacks.
Robert, It may help if you avoid calling people "Son", telling them to "hop to it", asking people to answer all your questions. You have a tendency to insult people and resort to name calling when things dont go well for you. I have seen DannyB and others making an attempt to engage in conversations many times with you. I think if you were a little more civil and sincere with your questions and accepted the answers it would go much smoother.
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Danny has made no such attempt, nor has any conversation with either you or Danny ever not gone well for me.
That being said I have made several attempts to have several attempts to have civil conversations with both of you, neither one of you has ever been interested or able to keep it together.
However those facts aside, I am always willing to make the effort again. I have repeatedly said that given your insider status I feel that you would be a good source of dialoug over this industry.
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Shit...what fuckin' bullshit...such a waste of valuable time...
Trying to conduct any sort of "debate" with these assclowns is like trying to screw a gorilla in the ass with no vaseline.
That is all.
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So then Danny, so long as you can try and remain civil, I will do the same.
If you have other questions I will be happy to try and answer them.
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the spirochetes our burrrowing deep into "ella diablos" braine are mines all mines . hiden like mini Idi Amin bombs, and "sharting " oute lika the onley way bennison can shart .
be still my inffected beast of shaol mines littler spirochetes our twisting yourre gray amtters away. the best beast is yets to comin.
bennison go back to herding the warned