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Aspen Education Group Announces Program Conversion, Will Open Talisman School in August 2010 (http://http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Aspen-Education-Group-Announces-Program-Conversion-Will-Open-Talisman-School-August-1261137.htm), press-release
* One of the New Leaf Academies will be a new school for another targetgroup.
* Bromley Brook and the remaining New Leaf Academy will merge their very different programs to a new program.
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SOURCE: Aspen Education Group
May 17, 2010 08:00 ET
Aspen Education Group Announces Program Conversion, Will Open Talisman School in August 2010 (http://http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Aspen-Education-Group-Announces-Program-Conversion-Will-Open-Talisman-School-August-1261137.htm)
HENDERSONVILLE, NC--(Marketwire - May 17, 2010) - Aspen Education Group, the leading provider of therapeutic education programs for struggling youth, today announced the conversion of its New Leaf Academy in Hendersonville, North Carolina, to become The Talisman School. The new school will serve the growing number of youth with Asperger's and other autism spectrum disorders, and will open its doors on August 23 of this year.
"There is a growing need in this country for schools dedicated to young people dealing with Asperger's Disorder and high-functioning autism," said Linda Tatsapaugh, current Executive Director of Talisman Programs, and now the Executive Director of the new Talisman School.
Tatsapaugh has worked with adolescents for nearly 20 years. Her Talisman Program conducts summer camps and semester-long programs for youth struggling with Asperger's Disorder, high-functioning autism, learning disabilities, Attention Deficit Disorder and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
High-functioning autism and Asperger's Disorder are both autism spectrum disorders (ASDs), a group of developmental disabilities that can cause significant social, communication and behavioral challenges. The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) estimates that an average of 1 in 110 children in the U.S. has an ASD.
"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
The new, co-ed Talisman School will have a 61 student capacity, and will serve students through experiential learning opportunities, specialized instruction and small learning groups. The focus will be on improving social awareness and interaction, independence, and academic self-motivation.
"We have been looking for a place to locate this type of school for a long time," said Tatsapaugh, adding that their current Talisman Program campsite was just that, "too camp-like" of an environment, and not appropriate for a full-time school. "The new site will allow us to have a traditional school setting that will enable our students to succeed."
Talisman School will be set within a southern-style mansion that rests among 68 acres of hardwood forest in the world-famous Blue Ridge mountain range.
The site's current school, New Leaf Academy, a private boarding school for girls ages 10-14, will be consolidated with its sister campus, New Leaf of Oregon, as well as Bromley Brook School in Manchester, Vermont, two of Aspen's other all-girl boarding schools. The process of transitioning students will begin immediately, with a close date of June 25. Nine of the school's 36 students will be graduating.
"We are very aware of the complexities involved with transitioning students and hope to make this as seamless as possible for parents and the affiliated referring professionals," said Susan Cambria, Eastern Region Vice President for Aspen Education Group. "Aspen has two other very appropriate, high-quality schools -- Bromley Brook and New Leaf Academy of Oregon -- or the girls may be ready to transition home. We will do whatever is right for the individual child."
The new Talisman School will incorporate many of the certified teachers from the former New Leaf Academy, as well as Talisman Programs' Clinical Director.
"We are very appreciative for the great staff of New Leaf Academy," said Phil Herschman, President of Aspen Education Group. "They have done an outstanding job with these young girls and we are fortunate that many have chosen to stay on with the new Talisman School."
The Talisman School is a program of Aspen Education Group, the nation's leading provider of therapeutic education programs for struggling or underachieving young people. Aspen's services range from short-term intervention programs to residential treatment, and include a variety of therapeutic settings such as boarding schools, outdoor behavioral health programs and special needs summer camps, allowing professionals and families the opportunity to choose the best setting to meet a student's unique academic and emotional needs. Aspen Education Group is a proud member of the National Association of Therapeutic Schools and Programs (NATSAP). Aspen also is a member of CRC Health Group, the nation's largest chemical dependency and related behavioral health organization. For over two decades, CRC Health has been achieving successful outcomes for individuals and families. For more information, visit http://www.crchealth.com (http://www.crchealth.com).
CONTACT:
Susan Cambria
Eastern Region Vice President
Aspen Education Group
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Keep downsizing, Aspen Education. The smaller you get, the more children survive their teen years...
Aspen Education kills children. :poison: :suicide:
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I wonder whether Bromley Brook School's latest scandal may have had anything to do with them getting the axe? Having a resident pedophile on staff (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29644) can't have been too good for business.
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I wonder whether Bromley Brook School's latest scandal may have had anything to do with them getting the axe? Having a resident pedophile on staff (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=29644) can't have been too good for business.
I would strongly suspect that the restructuring is due to the economy. All businesses expand and contract in reaction to customer demand. I am sure the Pedo has been fired or put in jail and letters sent out to all the parents like the local school systems do and long forgot about.
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Yes, yes....nothing to see here. Move along, move along. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Yes, yes....nothing to see here. Move along, move along. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Lol Exactly, Anne, (good analogy!) that’s another way to put it ….”there is nothing there to see”. My thoughts are this… imagine that the rape occurs at a local school then that memory goes on for years and generations because it was your local school and everyone knows everyone else and passes down the story. But if it happens at a boarding school there is no local community to keep the story alive so to speak. The story goes home with all the parents and children who were there at the time and it dies. The Pedo gets the boot because the locals town would insure the guy was prosecuted, New parents seeking to place children there would have no idea that this problem occurred (nor should they) so there is really no reason to worry if the employee would hurt future business.
But it is possible they consolidated because of the pedo incidence but it is more likely to be the economy in light of the direction it has gone over the past few years.
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I am sure the Pedo has been fired or put in jail and letters sent out to all the parents like the local school systems do and long forgot about.
You're sure of that? How are you so sure? The "school" won't even admit that he worked there at all.
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Yes, yes....nothing to see here. Move along, move along. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
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Lol Exactly, Anne, (good analogy!) that’s another way to put it ….”there is nothing there to see”. My thoughts are this… imagine that the rape occurs at a local school then that memory goes on for years and generations because it was your local school and everyone knows everyone else and passes down the story. But if it happens at a boarding school there is no local community to keep the story alive so to speak. The story goes home with all the parents and children who were there at the time and it dies. The Pedo gets the boot because the locals town would insure the guy was prosecuted, New parents seeking to place children there would have no idea that this problem occurred (nor should they) so there is really no reason to worry if the employee would hurt future business.
But it is possible they consolidated because of the pedo incidence but it is more likely to be the economy in light of the direction it has gone over the past few years.
Yup, and that's part of the reason behind why these programs get away with the crap that they do, year after year.
And that's precisely why parents should investigate and should be informed as to whether these kinds of problems have occurred. Unless these abuses get publicized, and remembered, too few will be able to put together the pattern... that these abuses are NOT isolated incidents, but are part of the systemic malaise of how these places effect their behavior modification.
They break kids down in order to "build them back up" but ... this puts kids in a very vulnerable position, psychologically speaking, and also gives perps an inflated sense of entitlement, not to mention opportunity.
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Whooter chemotherapy countdown initialized.
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Yup, and that's part of the reason behind why these programs get away with the crap that they do, year after year.
And that's precisely why parents should investigate and should be informed as to whether these kinds of problems have occurred. Unless these abuses get publicized, and remembered, too few will be able to put together the pattern... that these abuses are NOT isolated incidents, but are part of the systemic malaise of how these places effect their behavior modification.
First off where could the program post this information centrally so that everyone could access it? There is no place for them to do it. As far as Bromely Brook goes in their own eyes they have solved the issue and there is no more risk to children. Why should they go further on the issue? Why tell the new parents that are bringing in the children? What would it solve from their perspective?
There is no place for the parents to get information that is balanced. They go to Edcons and they have a business to protect and forums like fornits have posters purging their personal anger and are so anti-program that a parents doesn’t have a chance of getting any honest info… every program is the same, they starve and abuse kids, brainwash them, restrain them, lock them in isolation rooms, rape them etc.etc. how would any parent believe this stuff. So that leaves speaking to other parents who have experienced the programs themselves.
Also, I have not seen it established anywhere that these are not isolated incidents. There is no pattern that programs have that doesn’t also occur in public schools. Perps get in wherever kids are.
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"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
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Also removing these kids from a familiar home environment. Thoroughly incompetent and wholly self serving.
Auntie Em
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"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
This place provides an environment which will not have peer ridicule.
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Ha! They go from occasional peer ridicule to incessant staff ridicule.
Auntie Em
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Ha! They go from occasional peer ridicule to incessant staff ridicule.
Auntie Em
When people accuse you of making up stories,Auntie Em, you get upset and say: "I dont know what your talking about!".
Everyone reading here knows that there was no mention of occasional peer ridicule or incessant staff ridicule. Once again you just made this up to deceive the readers.
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Whooter why did you send your daughter to an Aspen program?
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"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
This place provides an environment which will not have peer ridicule.
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:jerry: :rofl: :rofl: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Good one!
Let me hip you to something: wherever there are teenaged peers, there is peer ridicule, plain and simple.
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I'm making things up? That's hilarious coming from you, Whooter.
A respected adolescent psychiatrist in practice at a major university reviewed the Aspen approach and reported to me that it "does not comport with any method we teach or advocate at any credible institution of adolescent psychiatry in the country."
You just hate it that I'm right. Go ahead, blow more smoke now. Blah, blah, blah. Send your links to your bogus studies, blather on in long posts about what a horrible person I am, attack everyone on fornits. Blah, blah, blah.
Auntie Em
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A respected adolescent psychiatrist in practice at a major university reviewed the Aspen approach and reported to me that it "does not comport with any method we teach or advocate at any credible institution of adolescent psychiatry in the country."
I have spoken to professionals in the field who feel the opposite. So it goes to show that people are divided on the issue, but there is no reason to be hateful towards others, AuntieEm2. If you feel a staff person is ridiculing a student then they should be identified and the school should be notified.
You just hate it that I'm right. Go ahead, blow more smoke now. Blah, blah, blah. Send your links to your bogus studies, blather on in long posts about what a horrible person I am, attack everyone on fornits. Blah, blah, blah.
Auntie Em
I don’t really care how you feel, Auntie, I was just saying that you make statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air, because you are angry, like:
“Ha! They go from occasional peer ridicule to incessant staff ridicule.”
And then you get pissed like you did above when I or anyone else calls you on your BS.
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Whooter why did you send your daughter to an Aspen program?
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Whooter why did you send your daughter to an Aspen program?
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A respected adolescent psychiatrist in practice at a major university reviewed the Aspen approach and reported to me that it "does not comport with any method we teach or advocate at any credible institution of adolescent psychiatry in the country."
I have spoken to professionals in the field who feel the opposite. So it goes to show that people are divided on the issue, but there is no reason to be hateful towards others, AuntieEm2. If you feel a staff person is ridiculing a student then they should be identified and the school should be notified.
You just hate it that I'm right. Go ahead, blow more smoke now. Blah, blah, blah. Send your links to your bogus studies, blather on in long posts about what a horrible person I am, attack everyone on fornits. Blah, blah, blah.
Auntie Em
I don’t really care how you feel, Auntie, I was just saying that you make statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air, because you are angry, like:
“Ha! They go from occasional peer ridicule to incessant staff ridicule.”
And then you get pissed like you did above when I or anyone else calls you on your BS.
So ... Auntie Em relates something from her personal experience, and you call it making "statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air?" Nice...
I'm also not really sure where you get this "when I or anyone else calls you on your BS" with regards to Auntie Em, Whooter, since you're the one who usually gets called on that! Certainly not Auntie Em!
Are you that desperate that you need to distort facts -- and make up imaginary friends -- in order to convince others that you have some credibility here? :D
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"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
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One of the best arguments I've seen you make since I've been here. Thank you Ursus.
Danny
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"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
This place provides an environment which will not have peer ridicule.
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:jerry: :rofl: :rofl: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Good one!
Let me hip you to something: wherever there are teenaged peers, there is peer ridicule, plain and simple.
:shamrock: :shamrock:
Ok hipster but is this being coordinated by the staff, is this a systematic effort by the program to breakdown the kids as part of treatment. NO shit that there is always peer pressure just look here on fornits at what you are doing to Whooter. A systematic coordinated attack to break him down. No wonder you think everyone else is doing it.
Danny
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Ok hipster but is this being coordinated by the staff, is this a systematic effort by the program to breakdown the kids as part of treatment. NO shit that there is always peer pressure just look here on fornits at what you are doing to Whooter. A systematic coordinated attack to break him down. No wonder you think everyone else is doing it.
Danny
Spoken like a true ex staffer from ELAN. Danny, go suck a fat one cock smoker.
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I'm making things up? That's hilarious coming from you, Whooter.
A respected adolescent psychiatrist in practice at a major university reviewed the Aspen approach and reported to me that it "does not comport with any method we teach or advocate at any credible institution of adolescent psychiatry in the country."
You just hate it that I'm right. Go ahead, blow more smoke now. Blah, blah, blah. Send your links to your bogus studies, blather on in long posts about what a horrible person I am, attack everyone on fornits. Blah, blah, blah.
Auntie Em
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Ok Auntie Em, now you have to prove it lets see it. Who is this, "respected adolescent psychiatrist in practice at a major university". Who took time out of his busy day just to speak with you about how, "the Aspen approach does not comport with any method we teach or advocate at any credible institution of adolescent psychiatry in the country".
No where in the country, no doubt. Please let us know as soon as you can.
Danny
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People don't pay any attention to Danny because he's married at the hip with Whooter now. Danny feels Whooter is being picked on so he's picking up where Whooter left off. Keep blowing Whooter out of the water because that's where we need to focus all our energy on. Danny Bennison can fuck off.
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So ... Auntie Em relates something from her personal experience, and you call it making "statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air?" Nice...
No you jumped into the middle of it, Ursus. Tatsapaugh was explaining the advantages of the new Talisman school….. how it will be unique in that it will serve kids with Aspergers, stating that they would feel safe without peer ridicule.
Usually if people are going to relate something from their personal experience (like you claim AuntieEm did) they say something like: “I have talked to people who have gone to Talisman school and…. Or my niece went to Talisman school and the staff ridiculed her etc….” But her statement was just “made up” and intended to degrade the school and their staff without knowing anything about them. Not so nice…
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A respected adolescent psychiatrist in practice at a major university reviewed the Aspen approach and reported to me that it "does not comport with any method we teach or advocate at any credible institution of adolescent psychiatry in the country."
I have spoken to professionals in the field who feel the opposite. So it goes to show that people are divided on the issue, but there is no reason to be hateful towards others, AuntieEm2. If you feel a staff person is ridiculing a student then they should be identified and the school should be notified.
You just hate it that I'm right. Go ahead, blow more smoke now. Blah, blah, blah. Send your links to your bogus studies, blather on in long posts about what a horrible person I am, attack everyone on fornits. Blah, blah, blah.
Auntie Em
I don’t really care how you feel, Auntie, I was just saying that you make statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air, because you are angry, like:
“Ha! They go from occasional peer ridicule to incessant staff ridicule.”
And then you get pissed like you did above when I or anyone else calls you on your BS.
So ... Auntie Em relates something from her personal experience, and you call it making "statements (to degrade people and schools) that you just make up out of thin air?" Nice...
I'm also not really sure where you get this "when I or anyone else calls you on your BS" with regards to Auntie Em, Whooter, since you're the one who usually gets called on that! Certainly not Auntie Em!
Are you that desperate that you need to distort facts -- and make up imaginary friends -- in order to convince others that you have some credibility here? :D
:shamrock: :shamrock:
Ursus spoke:
Are you that desperate that you need to distort facts -- and make up imaginary friends -- in order to convince others that you have some credibility here?
Danny spoke:
No Ursus I don't think he is but I know who is. I'm a friend and I find him very credible as I find you, as far as friends and credibility go on a internet site.
Danny
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Danny is desperate for Whooters love and affection because Danny doesn't get it from his own family at home. His family left him because they got sick and tired of his booze antics a couple months back.
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No Ursus I don't think he is but I know who is. I'm a friend and I find him very credible as I find you, as far as friends and credibility go on a internet site.
Danny
First......I wish you'd learn to use the quote feature. It's really not that difficult and it would make wading thru your friggin' shamrocks and "Danny spoke/Ursus spoke" posts much easier.
Second....might I direct your attention to this thread....
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903)
John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs. He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.
John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18. Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.
Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.
John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.
Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.
John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today. Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into. Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death. John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.
Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.
R.I.P., Mike. Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally. :peace:
Please add your thoughts to this topic.
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No Ursus I don't think he is but I know who is. I'm a friend and I find him very credible as I find you, as far as friends and credibility go on a internet site.
Danny
First......I wish you'd learn to use the quote feature. It's really not that difficult and it would make wading thru your friggin' shamrocks and "Danny spoke/Ursus spoke" posts much easier.
Second....might I direct your attention to this thread....
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27903)
John D. Reuben is a wanna-be EdCon 'who' started a business making referrals to known abusive programs. He has linked up with some of the most familiar bogeymen of the TTI such as Lon Woodbury, Martha Kolbe and many others, like NATSAP and Aspen Education.
John's son, 'who' was forced into two abusive programs, SUWS and ASR, did not receive the help he desperately needed from the unlicensed, unseducated staff of SUWS and ASR, but he was able to make it through, getting out at age 18. Since the boy's legitimate psychological issues were never addressed while he was detained by for-profit quacks, his family bond was destroyed and when he came home from ASR he estranged himself from John and went back to his old behaviors (as almost every teen does after being detained by quacks) and got much more deeply into much harder drugs, turning to heroin to get his fix and escape from his terrible problems that his father refused to seek legitimate treatment for.
Eventually Michael Joshua Reuben overdosed on heroin and died due to his father's neglect in his time of need.
John's son Max H. Reuben is also a program veteran, but John declines to say which program.
Please lend your support in researching John's connections to the TTI and those of his firm STICC.
John, if you had followed sound medical advice, Mike would still be with us today. Max, although still living, is deeply scarred by his experiences that you forced him into. Now you want other people to follow your example which leads to psychological destruction or even death. John used paid death notices in newspapers accross the country to draw attention to STICC and to get donations to send other kids to SUWS and ASR, a particularly misguided and disgusting thing to do.
Thank you to Mike's roommate [name withheld] who sought me out to tell Mike's story here and ask us here at Fornits to try to cripple STICC as a referral source to programs that verifiably kill children and are 100% ineffective.
R.I.P., Mike. Your dad let you down, but your friends love you eternally. :peace:
Please add your thoughts to this topic.
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Anne, at some point I will ask how to do it, Felice calls me a retard. I have not learned and do not want to. I like how I do it.
Second I have read that and many more and have had many conversations with folks I believe that would be more in the know as to who this Whooter really is and yes pun intended. What I have come up with is "the message" what message is he/she delivering. For me it is a message worth reading for the data and conversation. I do not want to get into whether he is a paid shill or not as far as I'm concerned I don't care at this point. Why? Nobody has a shred of proof and y'all are despicable in how you talk about his son. I am not a Whooter anything, just a objective party looking at ongoing contentious relationship.
I can only hope this is not going to bother you to the point you start to attack me as others have. I am entitled to my own views and will not compromise.
I will make a effort to improve my internet posting....lol.
Danny
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Anne you should know better by now I am not going to do it. I have not learned and do not want to. I like how I do it.
Second I have read that and many more and have had many conversations with folks I believe that would be more in the know as to who this Whooter really is. What I have come up with "the message" what message is he/she delievering. For me it is a message worth reading for the data and conversation. I am not going to get into whether he is a paid shill or whatever, I am still having a hard time understanding that concept in regards to fornits anyway. I can only hope this is not going to bother you to the point you start to attack me as others have. I am entitled to my own views and will not compromise.
Danny
Danny why don't you learn how to write correctly? Your writing skills suck shit you dumb ass tortilla tit Mexican. Your views are not worth listening to because you were a child abuser from ELAN and will always be one. Danny you cannot change old habits. People on this website think you're a pile of garbage. You should be in a prison cell for committing crimes against children you asshole.
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Anne you should know better by now I am not going to do it. I have not learned and do not want to. I like how I do it.
Second I have read that and many more and have had many conversations with folks I believe that would be more in the know as to who this Whooter really is. What I have come up with "the message" what message is he/she delievering. For me it is a message worth reading for the data and conversation. I am not going to get into whether he is a paid shill or whatever, I am still having a hard time understanding that concept in regards to fornits anyway. I can only hope this is not going to bother you to the point you start to attack me as others have. I am entitled to my own views and will not compromise.
Danny
Danny why don't you learn how to write correctly? Your writing skills suck shit you dumb ass tortilla tit Mexican. Your views are not worth listening to because you were a child abuser from ELAN and will always be one. Danny you cannot change old habits. People on this website think you're a pile of garbage. You should be in a prison cell for committing crimes against children you asshole.
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Thank you, gosh I am so happy you found me. Really I have not had a shadow for awhile. Felice, Sharon or Mark usually handled this job and it may be one of you but I don't think so. Sounds like a angry young man, awe would you like me to hold you, maybe bounce you on my knee. :waaaa: :waaaa: :waaaa:
Danny
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Recent Aspen cutback and re-structure (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=30538)
SOURCE: Aspen Education Group
May 17, 2010 08:00 ET
Aspen Education Group Announces Program Conversion, Will Open Talisman School in August 2010 (http://http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Aspen-Education-Group-Announces-Program-Conversion-Will-Open-Talisman-School-August-1261137.htm) HENDERSONVILLE, NC--(Marketwire - May 17, 2010) - Aspen Education Group, the leading provider of therapeutic education programs for struggling youth, today announced the conversion of its New Leaf Academy in Hendersonville, North Carolina, to become The Talisman School. The new school will serve the growing number of youth with Asperger's and other autism spectrum disorders, and will open its doors on August 23 of this year.
"There is a growing need in this country for schools dedicated to young people dealing with Asperger's Disorder and high-functioning autism," said Linda Tatsapaugh, current Executive Director of Talisman Programs, and now the Executive Director of the new Talisman School.
"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
Also removing these kids from a familiar home environment. Thoroughly incompetent and wholly self serving.
Separation, Autism, and Residential Treatment (http://http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2247444/)
Leigh Solomon, MD, FRCPC1 and Louis Peltz, MD, MSc, FRCPC2,32008 Canadian Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
Introduction:
We present the case of an 11-year-old boy with autistic disorder who developed a marked escalation in psychiatric symptoms after being removed from his family’s home and placed in a residential setting. Psychiatric sequelae of separating children from their parents have long been recognized (Bowlby, 1951). Children with developmental challenges are often unable to express their feelings with regards to separation due to communicative and cognitive limitations. In addition, it is well appreciated that autistic children are highly reactive to changes in their environment. We hypothesize that autistic children may experience separation in a powerfully traumatic fashion yet may be unable to describe, understand and interpret the feelings of loss and abandonment. There are some case reports in the literature that address the traumatic impact of sexual and physical abuse on children with autistic disorder (Cook et al, 1993). Our case adds to the literature by focusing on the impact of separation and the subsequent development of profound psychiatric symptoms in a child with pervasive developmental disorder sub-type autistic disorder. Some aspects of the case have been changed in order to protect confidentiality.
Case History:
J.D. is an 11-year-old boy with a diagnosis of autistic disorder, based on DSM-IV criteria of language delay, poor social interaction and the presence of repetitive behaviours (American Psychiatric Association, 2000). Nonverbal cognitive functioning is in the normal range. He lived in a family with two parents and a younger brother. At 18 months of age behavioral challenges increased with extensive tantrums and aggressive behaviour. Upon entering school behavioral difficulties continued, resulting in frequent periods of explosive anger towards others. He was often suspended from his classroom. At age 7, J.D. was diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder as well as autistic disorder. He was also found to have severe disturbance of attention, concentration and impulse control. Psychiatric evaluation revealed obsessional thinking with agitation and dysphoric mood particularly during periods of transition and change.
At age 10, J.D. was admitted, via the emergency room, to a community hospital for the first time. He remained on a psychiatric inpatient unit for approximately one month. He was found to display impulsive and noncompliant behaviour, and was aggressive, particularly toward his mother. He was treated with risperidone and methylphenidate as well as with behavioral interventions. There was mild to moderate improvement in his symptoms, but at the time of discharge, his parents decided to not have him return home. He was subsequently placed in a community group home with 7 other children, visiting his parents on weekends. After a short time in the group home, his presentation changed markedly. He appeared fatigued, withdrawn, depressed and less communicative. Methylphenidate was discontinued, resulting in some improvement in his mood and energy level, but soon afterwards he became distressed and agitated. He began counting repeatedly to 21. At times, he would approach staff saying, “Please help me”. He displayed symptoms of anxiety with repetitive thoughts and dysphoric mood, leading to the addition of fluoxetine to the risperidone.
Five months after his first admission, J.D. was readmitted to the inpatient psychiatric unit in an attempt to stabilize his symptoms and ameliorate his distress. While in hospital, he was generally sad and withdrawn, but at times became explosive and agitated. He responded positively to behavioral interventions and after 3 weeks, was discharged back to the group home.
Two days after returning to the group home J.D. became physically aggressive and injured one of his counselors. Again, he was brought to the Emergency room and was readmitted to the hospital.
A case conference was convened with representatives from the group home, child welfare, family and the inpatient team. It was decided that J.D. should return to his family and that assistance would be provided to support the transition. This decision was strongly encouraged by the treating psychiatrist in the community as well as by the inpatient psychiatrist.
J.D.’s mood and behaviour improved after moving back home to live with his family, although his parents reported that he continued to be aggressive at times, for example pinching them if he didn’t get what he wanted. They reported that his mood was generally happy, and he did not engage in repetitive behaviours or express repetitive thoughts as he had done previously. His medications were gradually discontinued.
Discussion:
This case demonstrates how mental health professionals were unable to identify that escalation of symptoms in a child with autistic disorder was influenced by the impact of separation from his primary attachment figures. J.D. had a long history of oppositional behaviour but his behaviour worsened markedly when he was anxious. Failure to identify that his deterioration was associated with anxiety secondary to separation from his primary attachment figures resulted in unnecessary use of medication, costly inpatient hospitalization and prolonged distress for J.D. and his family.
It is of fundamental importance that practitioners recognize that children with autistic disorder can be very attached to their primary caregivers (Rutgers et al, 2004). Consequently, they may be highly sensitive to separation from a primary attachment figure. Separation may be experienced as emotionally traumatic, with accompanying feelings of fear and helplessness, resulting in an increase in symptoms of anxiety and agitation (Bowlby, 1960).
It is also important to recognize that the expression of trauma in all children is influenced by developmental factors (Salmon and Bryant, 2002). Recently, Scheeringa and colleagues (2006) have suggested that the diagnosis of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) in children be based on criteria that are more sensitive to developmental level. Children with Pervasive Developmental Disorders (PDD), especially those with intellectual disabilities, are even more limited than other children in their ability to understand, interpret and respond appropriately to trauma (Howlin and Clements, 1995). A child with intellectual disability may interpret a move to a residential setting as severe punishment. The child may lack an appreciation of time and be incapable of processing the concept of “temporary”. Cognitive limitations have been shown to be a significant risk factor for the onset of PTSD after traumatic events, for children and adolescents with a diagnosis of PDD. (Turk et al, 2005)
Autistic children have a limited capacity to express affect verbally and may do so behaviorally (Howlin and Clements, 1995). When highly anxious, aggressive behaviors can increase, resulting in a “spiral effect” whereby additional medications are prescribed with little if any benefit. Side effects, such as akathesia and dysphoria, cannot easily be described by the patient but may be interpreted as agitation and mood disturbance, leading to further increases in the dosage of the patient’s medications in an attempt to control symptoms.
Autistic children are overrepresented in residential settings. They often present with major behavioral challenges. Symptoms of aggression, agitation and poor impulse control may lead to psychiatric evaluation, hospitalization and/or treatment with medications. This case clearly illustrates how symptoms in this vulnerable population may escalate after being placed in a residential setting. Reaction to trauma, including the trauma of separation, should be considered in assessing such children.
Articles from Journal of the Canadian Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry are provided here (http://http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2247444/) courtesy of
Canadian Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
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"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
This place provides an environment which will not have peer ridicule.
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hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah OMG.. I don't know how many fights I had to split up because kids were ripping on each other.
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hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah OMG.. I don't know how many fights I had to split up because kids were ripping on each other.
I know it is awful. I have seen it myself,too. Now take that ridicule and magnify it by 100 because kids with Aspergers don’t pick up social cues very well. Kids with Apsergers are at a severe disadvantage in regular schools and typically do not do very well and are a magnet for teasing. Home schooling is probably the best route for them and, although, I don’t recommend kids with Aspergers be placed into programs it is good to see they are starting to develop programs which are sensitive to their specific needs and provide a safe environment free from ridicule.
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"Adolescence may be the most difficult time for an individual with Asperger's or high-functioning autism," explains Tatsapaugh. "In adolescence, social demands become more complex, subtle social cues become more important, and kids with these disorders may have difficulty understanding their peers and the inherent social status structure of high school. Because they are socially naive, the child may not realize when someone is trying to take advantage of them and they can be especially vulnerable to manipulation and peer pressure."
She adds, "This school will be a comfortable place for them to feel safe and be who they are without peer ridicule."
I can't believe how these places actually think that a program environment, one that specifically relies on manipulation and peer pressure to effect behavior modification, and hence, perhaps unavoidably, also peer ridicule, will be of benefit to kids with Asperger's or high-functioning autism.
See also:
- Autistics at Hyde School . viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=27220)
- aspergers? . viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29859)
This place provides an environment which will not have peer ridicule.
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hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah OMG.. I don't know how many fights I had to split up because kids were ripping on each other.
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My apologies Che, for not getting it myself. Your point. When I am wrong I will admit it, When I am a ass I will also.
I was wrong and a ass.
(I deleted the stupid post)
Danny
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hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah OMG.. I don't know how many fights I had to split up because kids were ripping on each other.
I know it is awful. I have seen it myself,too. Now take that ridicule and magnify it by 100 because kids with Aspergers don’t pick up social cues very well. Kids with Apsergers are at a severe disadvantage in regular schools and typically do not do very well and are a magnet for teasing. Home schooling is probably the best route for them and, although, I don’t recommend kids with Aspergers be placed into programs it is good to see they are starting to develop programs which are sensitive to their specific needs and provide a safe environment free from ridicule.
I'd respectfully beg to differ with you, Whooter, as far as putting kids with Aspergers into any kind of program, even one which, in the best case scenario, is geared towards their particular needs. Most Aspies that I know or whose blogs I have read would prefer to be mainstreamed, albeit with some additional support services in place when it comes to learning social skills for negotiating existence in a predatory world.
Most programs, which utilize group pressure to conform as a means of effecting their behavior modification, are a real anathema to kids with Aspergers. While these kids may be a bit of a magnet for some teasing in the public school system, it's nothing compared to being singled out and psychologically eviscerated like they might be in program. Hyde School calls such a concept Brother's Keeper, lol. About the only Biblical allusion that comes to mind re. Aspies and "brothers keeper" is that of leading lambs to slaughter (http://http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/like+a+lamb+to+the+slaughter).
Personal opinions aside, I also find it highly unbelievable that Aspen Education could possibly come up with something like an Aspergers / high-functioning autistics program, especially considering how abysmally they've already failed with their recently closed Cedars Academy. I certainly hope they don't plan to replicate what went on there.
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Personal opinions aside, I also find it highly unbelievable that Aspen Education could possibly come up with something like an Aspergers / high-functioning autistics program, especially considering how abysmally they've already failed with their recently closed Cedars Academy. I certainly hope they don't plan to replicate what went on there.
Where does that statement come from, Ursus? Why deceive the readers? Why say that they abysmally failed with their recently closing…… etc. Why not: “Hewlett Packard bought 400 acres adjacent to Cedars Academy for a research facility which drove up abutting property values to the point that Cedars Academy could not compete therefore forcing them to close.”
Why not explain how they failed so badly? (you know how we all love a juicy story of "doom and gloom") Do you know why you left that out? Did you forget to add it or just didnt know? or maybe felt the readers were not interested?
But aside from that…..If you had to chose a program which helped kids with Aspergers would you choose a company which has past experience with running a program with these children and can demonstrate successes or one who was just starting out? I think Aspens’ past record with working with Aspergers children gives them an advantage in the industry.
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Wait, that's seriously your excuse? An increase in property taxes from an industry moving in next door? Really?
Now if you had said something like "a building full of computer geeks isn't likely to approve of the torture of Asperger's kids right next door, so Aspen had to get the fuck out", that might be more believable.
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Why deceive the readers?
Lol. Coming from YOU, of all people, I'd wager that was a Freudian slip. :D
Of course, the main reason for Cedars Academy's demise probably had a lot more to do with economics than anything else, due to, for the most part, Aspen Education itself being a lot more concerned with economics than it is with anything else. Maybe not. Their official press release (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=28485) about the matter was noticeably silent as to official cause. Perhaps you know something the rest of us don't?
Aspen acquired Cedars in November of 2003, if I recall correctly, and by that time Cedars had already gone through some "changes in focus" as to the clientele it served (not to mention some flagrant licensing violations, but that wasn't specifically Aspen's fault). Aspen continued that trend of adjusting the focus, probably hoping to exploit niche marketing to their advantage, but ... I guess it didn't work out for them.
Not surprisingly, Talisman would appear to be the same kind of "focus adjustment" in response to market pressures. There's no sin in that, to be sure, but it does belie your description of Aspen's "past experience with running a program with these children" and their "demonstrate[d] successes."
I think Aspens' past record with working with Aspergers children gives them an advantage in the industry.
Uh... link to some proof or substantiation for that claim?
Quite frankly, I just don't see Aspen's alleged expertise nor commitment to Aspies or high-function autistics. I just see their commitment to creating programs which appear to exploit an expected market based on current cultural diagnosing trends.
If I were a parent struggling with some difficult decisions regarding my kid, and I knew some of Aspen's history with regard to exaggerating their alleged "expertise," not to mention their contribution to adolescent mortality rates, I'd be hard pressed to believe some of their hard sell.
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While not wanting to smile on the misfortune of the many Americans who are doing it tough in the current economic climate, it seems that this is the upside of the recession. My hope is that when things pick up enough people will realize that their kids can survive the tough years and hopefully eventually thrive without a program, just as they are forced to all over the world in places that do not have this industry, and the damage will be permanent.
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If I were a parent struggling with some difficult decisions regarding my kid, and I knew some of Aspen's history with regard to exaggerating their alleged "expertise," not to mention their contribution to adolescent mortality rates, I'd be hard pressed to believe some of their hard sell.
Ursus, this goes without saying and would apply to any industry. When doctors exaggerated about their alleged expertise in the operating room and their contribution to mortality rates it makes us all question the hard sell of getting an operation or our appendix removed.
Most parents check multiple sources and speak to other parents who had kids go through the program. This gives them a better sense whether the program is a good fit for their child. It will also give them a sense whether or not the marketing lives up to the actual practice.
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Re: Asperger's and high-functioning autism
Postby Ursus » 20 May 2010, 18:11
I'd respectfully beg to differ with you, Whooter, as far as putting kids with Aspergers into any kind of program, even one which, in the best case scenario, is geared towards their particular needs.
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What I think your saying here is your "prejudice" of any type of program prevents you from accepting a specialized program for high functioning autism / aspergers .
Most Aspies that I know or whose blogs I have read would prefer to be mainstreamed, albeit with some additional support services in place when it comes to learning social skills for negotiating existence in a predatory world
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Most Apies that you know (should I take this at face value you personally know some or are you exaggerating to make a point). I think this is what you would like to see Ursus. Problem is you are not a child with Aspergers or high functioning autism or a parent, I don't even think you even work in the field. So I don't think you understand the complexities in schooling the children with these disabilities.
Most programs, which utilize group pressure to conform as a means of effecting their behavior modification, are a real anathema to kids with Aspergers. While these kids may be a bit of a magnet for some teasing in the public school system, it's nothing compared to being singled out and psychologically eviscerated like they might be in program
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Why do you think they would place these children in a program like we went to, based upon peer pressure.
Where are you getting this information. They are talking about a specialized program for a specific child.
"While these kids may be a bit of a magnet for some teasing in the public school system, it's nothing compared to being singled out and psychologically eviscerated like they might be in program."
You can't be serious, obviously you never went to public school. They would be pummeled to near death every chance a student with a "chip on his shoulder" has. Ridiculed would be a good day, they die in public schools talk with the parents.
Personal opinions aside, I also find it highly unbelievable that Aspen Education could possibly come up with something like an Aspergers / high-functioning autistics program, especially considering how abysmally they've already failed with their recently closed Cedars Academy. I certainly hope they don't plan to replicate what went on there
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Well Ursus there is your fear coming through again.
Danny
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Link to News Article (http://http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/22/charged-tattooing-year-old/?test=latestnews)
The special needs student was told he wouldn't be picked on at his New Hampshire high school if he submitted to having obscene words tattooed on his backside, police said.
CONCORD, N.H. -- Four people have been charged with tattooing a 14-year-old special needs student on his backside, against his will, Concord police said.
The boy, whose name was not released, told police the four told him he wouldn't be picked on at Concord High School if he submitted to it. An image, with two obscene words was tattooed on him May 10, police said.
The victim was targeted because he's intellectually challenged, prosecutor Scott Murray said.
"You put yourself in this kid's position, your heart has to go out to him," said Sgt. John Thomas, who said the boy has been picked on so much that he would do anything to stop it. "It's gotten so bad that you have to subject your body to being scarred for life, just to be accepted by your peers."
Blake VanNest, 18, is charged with assault, endangering the welfare of a minor, tattooing without a license, indecent exposure and criminal threatening. Donald Wyman, 20, is charged with criminal liability for the conduct of another and conspiracy to endanger the welfare of a minor.
Two others -- Ryan Fisk, 19 and Travis Johnston, 18, -- are also charged.
Johnson, who said he allowed it take place at his house, told WMUR-TV he wished it never happened.
"Before I got in trouble, I regretted it," he said.
The family of the boy said they planned to speak out about the growing problem of school bullying in the coming the days.
"This is a very emotional time for our family, as we are still trying to absorb what was done to our child," the family said through a lawyer.
The boy told police that despite his protests VanNest said he would get a tattoo whether he liked it or not, police said. The boy said he eventually agreed because VanNest told him he would no longer be picked on at school.
The boy told police that when he arrived at the home to get the tattoo he said again that he didn't want one, but VanNest threatened him.
Wyman drew the tattoo on the boy, and Fisk and VanNest did the tattooing, prosecutors said.
The next day, the boy said students in the school were passing around pictures of the tattoo. A teacher overheard a conversation about it called police.
New Hampshire law prohibits tattooing anyone under the age of 18. Tattoo artists also must be licensed.
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Link to News Article (http://http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/22/charged-tattooing-year-old/?test=latestnews)
The special needs student was told he wouldn't be picked on at his New Hampshire high school if he submitted to having obscene words tattooed on his backside, police said.
CONCORD, N.H. -- Four people have been charged with tattooing a 14-year-old special needs student on his backside, against his will, Concord police said.
The boy, whose name was not released, told police the four told him he wouldn't be picked on at Concord High School if he submitted to it. An image, with two obscene words was tattooed on him May 10, police said.
The victim was targeted because he's intellectually challenged, prosecutor Scott Murray said.
"You put yourself in this kid's position, your heart has to go out to him," said Sgt. John Thomas, who said the boy has been picked on so much that he would do anything to stop it. "It's gotten so bad that you have to subject your body to being scarred for life, just to be accepted by your peers."
Blake VanNest, 18, is charged with assault, endangering the welfare of a minor, tattooing without a license, indecent exposure and criminal threatening. Donald Wyman, 20, is charged with criminal liability for the conduct of another and conspiracy to endanger the welfare of a minor.
Two others -- Ryan Fisk, 19 and Travis Johnston, 18, -- are also charged.
Johnson, who said he allowed it take place at his house, told WMUR-TV he wished it never happened.
"Before I got in trouble, I regretted it," he said.
The family of the boy said they planned to speak out about the growing problem of school bullying in the coming the days.
"This is a very emotional time for our family, as we are still trying to absorb what was done to our child," the family said through a lawyer.
The boy told police that despite his protests VanNest said he would get a tattoo whether he liked it or not, police said. The boy said he eventually agreed because VanNest told him he would no longer be picked on at school.
The boy told police that when he arrived at the home to get the tattoo he said again that he didn't want one, but VanNest threatened him.
Wyman drew the tattoo on the boy, and Fisk and VanNest did the tattooing, prosecutors said.
The next day, the boy said students in the school were passing around pictures of the tattoo. A teacher overheard a conversation about it called police.
New Hampshire law prohibits tattooing anyone under the age of 18. Tattoo artists also must be licensed.
And this is just one example of the still living, most don't even make it to tell the story. After repetitive abuse (trying to fit in socially) they shut down totally and eventually hurt themselves so destructively that they go to far.
Home schooling for the kids who are borderline and a specialized program for the more severe. Why?????? because unless God made you a "special" parent you can not handle the task and in most cases (if you want to get honest) don't want to. If you have money maybe your child gets good care if not well you become dependent upon the State. We all know how that can turn out.
Danny
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Danny did the persons you beat at ELAN have aspergers? Since when did you become a fucking damn mental health expert all of a sudden? Ya nothing but a child beater!
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Danny did the persons you beat at ELAN have aspergers? Since when did you become a fucking damn mental health expert all of a sudden? Ya nothing but a child beate
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This just happens to be the one subject of mental health care I do know about from experience. I have family who are disabled with both of these disabilities as I have posted if you were paying attention. Felice stay focus please I hate to repeat myself.
Nice new name.
Danny
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This just happens to be the one subject of mental health care I do know about from experience. I have family who are disabled with both of these disabilities as I have posted if you were paying attention. Felice stay focus please I hate to repeat myself.
Nice new name.
Danny
You didn't care about people with mental health problems when you beat them at ELAN stupid cocksucker. I wouldn't be surprised you drag one of your disabled family members behind your vans, right Danny ELAN staffer? Child beater cock sucker. Fuck you potato head IRA terrorist.
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This just happens to be the one subject of mental health care I do know about from experience. I have family who are disabled with both of these disabilities as I have posted if you were paying attention. Felice stay focus please I hate to repeat myself.
Nice new name.
Danny
You didn't care about people with mental health problems when you beat them at ELAN stupid cocksucker. I wouldn't be surprised you drag one of your disabled family members behind your vans, right Danny ELAN staffer? Child beater cock sucker. Fuck you potato head IRA terrorist.
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Will you please talk/write like a human being. Is this all you can do is spill vulgarity, ok we get it you can swear really well.
Thank you Feliceesh
Danny
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How did the children feel when you made them fight in the ring Danny Bennison? Did they cry? Were they seriously injured? Were they bleeding? Broken noses?
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How did the children feel when you made them fight in the ring Danny Bennison? Did they cry? Were they seriously injured? Were they bleeding? Broken noses?
As I have said countless times in post before I was never given the authority to put anyone in the ring. I personally did not mind this because I never saw the therapeutic value in the ring. Elan abused whatever value there was. You already knew this but thanks for asking again.
Danny
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How did the children feel when you made them fight in the ring Danny Bennison? Did they cry? Were they seriously injured? Were they bleeding? Broken noses?
As I have said countless times in post before I was never given the authority to put anyone in the ring. I personally did not mind this because I never saw the therapeutic value in the ring. Elan abused whatever value there was. You already knew this but thanks for asking again.
Danny
Fornits Records
Yes, but you did help facilitate fights in the ring. Facilitate meaning to assist the progress of (a person). You may not have the authority to place the child in the ring but you sure in the hell facilitated fights. So, don't bullshit me Danny. People are sick and fucking tired of your ELAN staffer mind fuck games. Nice try with me Danny ole boy.
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AA wrote:
How did the children feel when you made them fight in the ring Danny Bennison? Did they cry? Were they seriously injured? Were they bleeding? Broken noses?
Danny wrote:
As I have said countless times in post before I was never given the authority to put anyone in the ring. I personally did not mind this because I never saw the therapeutic value in the ring. Elan abused whatever value there was. You already knew this but thanks for asking again.
AA wrote:
Yes, but you did help facilitate fights in the ring. Facilitate meaning to assist the progress of (a person). You may not have the authority to place the child in the ring but you sure in the hell facilitated fights. So, don't bullshit me Danny. People are sick and fucking tired of your ELAN staffer mind fuck games. Nice try with me Danny ole boy.
Danny wrote:
OK what I need you to do now is explain to everyone how you know I did this, factually please. That I purposely and willfully went out of my way to put a resident in the ring or facilitated the event. Please explain this on a factual bases. You can't because it never happened and if you knew me you would understand why I would never allow that to happen and never did.
So who is playing mind fuck games here. YOU!!!!!! You are so desperate for information on me, anything you'll stoop to this. Your frustrated because you can't find shit on me at all, you don't know if I am ex-staff one day or not, if I am Danny or not, if I am the second coming or not ect.........
Calm down and relax one day it will all make sense.
Danny
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OK what I need you to do now is explain to everyone how you know I did this, factually please. That I purposely and willfully went out of my way to put a resident in the ring or facilitated the event. Please explain this on a factual bases. You can't because it never happened and if you knew me you would understand why I would never allow that to happen and never did.
So who is playing mind fuck games here. YOU!!!!!! You are so desperate for information on me, anything you'll stoop to this. Your frustrated because you can't find shit on me at all, you don't know if I am ex-staff one day or not, if I am Danny or not, if I am the second coming or not ect.........
Calm down and relax one day it will all make sense.
Danny
OK, but what about the girl tied to the van and dragged around?
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