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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Antigen on September 15, 2003, 05:55:00 PM

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on September 15, 2003, 05:55:00 PM

Ok, here we go again. I've just received another letter of demand from another lawfirm demanding that I act as their agent to abridge your free speech.

Unfortunately, my scanner's not working at the moment and I haven't got the time or money to deal with that today. So I'll just type this in by hand for the moment.

Here's what I received:

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Girvin & Ferlazzo, P.C.
Attorneys at Law

20 Corporate Woods Blvd.
Albany, New York 12211
(518) 462-0300 Fax: (518) 462-5037
http://www.girvinlaw.com (http://www.girvinlaw.com)

Tanya A. Yatsco
Associate

http://www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com)

Dear Sir or Madam:

  Please be advised that we represent the Academy at Ivy Ridge, located in Ogdensburg, New York.

  It has come to our attention that postings on your website contain false and defamatory statements regarding the Academy at Ivy Ridge and an associated entity, WWASP. I direct your attention to, among other portions of your website,  
  http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... &Forum=9&3 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?top=2972&Forum=9&3).

  Postings alleging that students of Academy at Ivy Ridge are in any way mistreated are utterly false. Accordingly, they are violative of Fornits' Terms of Use. Such postings must immediately be removed from your website and you must cease and desist posting any such items in the future. Failure to do so will result in legal action against Fornits and the infividuals posting these defamatory statements. It is our understanding that a related lawsuit is already pending, and that the judge in that case issued a preliminary injunction against these defamatory postings.

  Again, if the defamatory postings regarding Academy at Ivy Ridge are not immediately removed, we will commense suit against you.

Very truly yours
GRIVIN & FERLAZZO, P.C.
[signature]
by: Tanya A Yatsco

TAY:lmg
cc: Jason Finlinson

Response to follow.

The optimist thinks that this is the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist knows it.
--  J. Robert Oppenheimer

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2003, 09:12:00 PM

Was wondering when this was going to happen. Freedom of speech is one thing,   Defamation and accusations are ugly things :wink:

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 15, 2003, 09:44:00 PM

Anon,  

What may be defamation ,accusations to you.

May be the experience ,truth to another.

The truth is what it is! They say the truth hurts.

Typical WWASP response. Threats of law suits to silence the experiences of another.

They might want to save their money .There going to need it!

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2003, 12:12:00 AM

Failure to do so will result in legal action against Fornits and the infividuals posting these defamatory statements -

Hmmm.  Must be why this board is a little quiet right now!

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2003, 10:05:00 AM

I wonder if it might help calm them down if those of us who have personal statements sent them for their review. . .
Its not the sort of thing I'd imagian they'd want said in open court.
It isn't slander when its the Truth.
If its defamation - then they deserve it.

KarenZ

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on September 16, 2003, 01:32:00 PM

September 16, 2003
Girvin & Ferlazzo, P.C.
20 Corporate Woods Blvd.
Albany, New York 12211
Dear Ms. Yatsco:

Re: your correspondence dated Sept 12, 2003.

Ms. Yatsco, I tried to review the url to which you direct my attention but it seems to have been typed incorrectly. It is a given that some statements made on any unmoderated public forum must be false because, inevitably, some of them contradict each other. I make no effort to identify anonymous posters or to verify or refute the accuracy of their statements. I make absolutely no representation to the contrary either in the terms of use or otherwise.

I am neither party to nor defendant in any lawsuit and, therefore, not subject to any injunction. To the best of my knowledge, neither are any of the people who post to the forum in question. If they are, as stated in the terms of use, it?s their responsibility, not mine.

I believe your letter is an attempt to intimidate me and to discourage public participation and that any suit against me seeking to prevent free speech on any topic would be frivolous and malicious. You may well ?win? on behalf of your client if they have enough money and the will to harass me. But you will not succeed in keeping anything quiet. In fact I will do everything in my power to ensure that anything you do to me you will do right out in the open in a most public way.

Finally, please inform Mr. Finlinson and any other interested parties that they are just as welcome as anyone to post to this forum and to refute any statements they feel are inaccurate or unkind.


Sincerely,
Ginger Warbis

http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/IvyRidge01.doc (http://fornits.com/anonanon/docs/IvyRidge01.doc)

All I ask is equal freedom.  When it is denied, as it always is, I take it anyhow.
--H.L. Mencken

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: laura1 on September 16, 2003, 01:56:00 PM

You Go Ginger!

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on September 16, 2003, 02:02:00 PM

Thanks! And I swear the end quote is random.

Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves

--Ronald Reagan

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: scottT on September 16, 2003, 02:55:00 PM

Proverb:  The Truth will never die, but it often lives a pretty miserable life.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on September 16, 2003, 04:40:00 PM

Here's the thing, though, though I'm happily married with 3 beautiful children, a cool dog and a nice cozy home in the hills and generally happy, the truth of this matter just nagged and gnawed at my insides. For a long time, I'd given up trying to discuss what's so messed up about DARE or to explain what's so deranged about someone like Art Barker being regarded as a kindly old philanthropist in the local Ft. Lauderdale area papers. But it still bugged me, more and more and so my happiness was always a little disturbed and incomplete.

After doing the research and finding out how successful these synanon believers of various stripe have been at garnering public funding, power, protection and acceptance, I've come to the conclusion that there's literally nothing they can do to me now that's worse than what they may be able to do to my grandkids if we all don't do what we can to change their plans. So do your damndest, WWASPies, to frighten all of us into silence. I, for one, and likely a whole lot of others will continue to do our damndest to make it backfire. It's a whole lot easier to make noise than to stop it, ya' know?

...to disarm the people (is) the best and most effective way to enslave them...
-- George Mason

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2003, 09:28:00 PM

Ginger,

What this attorney apparenty isnt aware of,and that the Pure rebuttal doesnt share,is that the Judge in the wwasp vs Pure case recently ruled, Pure may keep the stories from the parents and survivors up on the Pure website honoring freedom of speech.

This attorney threatening because of the so called defamation of Ivy Ridge is full of shit.

If what we know about Ivy Ridge was really shared,posted all hell would break out.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on September 16, 2003, 09:41:00 PM

Nah, I gotta give them more credit than that. At least the wording was relatively civil and polite and they addressed the letter to an entity that did legally exist at one time, rather than to Ginger and Bill Fornit (who never existed or even pretended to). By way of comparison, take a look at the letter sent to me awhile back by Englander & Fischer  http://fornits.com/anonanon/#fay (http://fornits.com/anonanon/#fay)

(Englander & Fischer, btw, is the same firm that's currently suing my friend, Richard Bradbury, on behalf of Calvina's friend, Mel Sembler. Click the "Pump-Gate" link above for details and breaking news.)

I think what this lawyer didn't know is how much I hate bullies; what's at stake for me (far more valuable than all of my posessions) and that I'd immediately recognize that they haven't got a case and that I have more than enough resources and wherewithall to make something like this backfire very badly for them.

So how come ya'll haven't posted everything you know about Academy at Ivy Ridge? Please do.

We must create an atmosphere where the crooked cop fears the honest cop, and not the other way around.
Anonymity Anonymous (http://fornits.com/anonanon)

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 16, 2003, 10:49:00 PM

Ginger,

The Ivy Ridge dirt is'nt my story to tell.

I had the displeasure to read the documentation written by a family member who had a student there. I have spoken  with a parent whose daughetr was neglected at Ivy Ridge.

I know many kids who are familiar with Jason the director. I ahve heard the horror stories about theat guy. Different kids, same stories.

It goes on and on.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2003, 08:23:00 AM

not sure but i heard the incident of a staff member being fired for a female student giving sexual favors in exchange for cigarettes?  maybe the lawyers know about it.  it is hearsay but i heard it has a lot of credence.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 17, 2003, 04:53:00 PM

ya i heard a girl was being raped at the academy at ivy ridge by on of there staff members. Not sure but i think they fired the guy.

I guess the abuse is normal at all wwasp facility's!

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on September 17, 2003, 05:05:00 PM

Really? In Straight, when that happened, they just reamed out the rape victim for being gamey (i.e. flirting) and not respecting him or herself and then started the staff member over on first phase, where he'd be locked into a room with juvenile boys in their underwear every night for a few more months.

Folks, we really need good, hard, solid and documentable details. Take it to the media, the courts or just post it online somewhere, but it has to come out and it has to be detailed info. Rape happens occasionally even under wholesome circumstances. The problem is when it happens a lot, due to someone setting up ideal circumstances, and when it's not handled well. A girl I went to high-school with was a victim of statutory rape by our new coach. In that case, the church elders and school facutly dealt with the problem with the family. The coach lost his job, teaching credentials and reputation and wound up marrying the girl, who was only about 4 or 5 years younger. It was voluntary for both parties and I understand they lived relatively hapily ever after.

My point is that just that one little detail doesn't tell the whole story. There are damned good reasons why victims of rape should think carefully about whether or not to go public. If you're going to go public, be smart about it and be prepared to go the whole mile.

Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
--Edward Everett

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: FaceKhan on September 17, 2003, 10:58:00 PM

Another issue may be whether ivy ridge violated NY law by not reporting the rape to the authorities and handling it in house (ie. burying it). Since the girl was obviously under 18, the rape must be reported in a lot of states or the adults who fail to report which would include the job descriptions of the staff there can face jail time.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2003, 01:37:00 AM

Maybe they didn't report it because it didn't happen??? :wave:

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: FaceKhan on September 18, 2003, 02:24:00 AM

Actually the substance of the allegation is for the police to decide, the facility and most members of its staff are required to report any allegation or evidence of child abuse ( which is almost comical since the facility is the source of that abuse). Failure to do so can result in prison time.

Basically that means that if a kid has bruises, appears malnourished, or is mysteriously injured it has to be reported. Since the staff are the ones inflicting these injuries obviously they are not going to turn themselves in.

Maybe it was not reported because WWASP sees very little wrong with rapes within their programs since it is just one more way to break the kids down. The only downside for wwasp is that allegations of rape are more likely to generate widespread publicity than allegations of food deprivation and physical abuse.





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Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2003, 03:36:00 AM

WWASPS HAS HAD MANY ALLEGATIONS OF RAPE AS WELL AS PHYSICAL ABUSE, INCLUDING IVY RIDGE ACADEMY IN NEW YORK. WWASP HAS THE WORST REPUTATION BECAUSE IT ABUSES TEENS IN THE WORST WAYS.
WWASP DOES NOT WANT TO HELP YOU POOR LIL TEEN,
THEY WANT YOUR DAMN MONEY. AND YES, COULD IT BE ANYMORE OBVIOUS THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SHUT DOWN SOONER OR LATER. THEY MIGHT BE TEENS, BUT HOW DARE YOU ABUSE TEENS IN THE NAME OF "TREATMENT".

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2003, 03:39:00 AM

The feeling of being in a wwasp facility isnt treatment, its the most hopless feeling a human bein could have. IT IS PRISON.

YOUR TEEN IS BEING ILLEALLY INCARCERATED.
THERE FREEDOM IS BEING ILLEGALLY TAKEN AWAY.
ITS NOT LIKE THEY CAN WALK OUT THE DOOR AND GET SOMETHING TO EAT. THEY ARE LOCKED UP BEHIND SETS OF DOORS WITH ONLY KEY CARD ACCESS FOR THE STAFF AND FOOD IS A PRIVELAGE, AND IF YOU DONT COOPERATE WITH THERE RULES OR ABUSEIVE METHODS,
THEN HAVE FUN ON YOUR CHIN FOR 12 HOURS A DAY

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2003, 09:09:00 AM

my son told me a male staff member threatened to rape him.  bunch of weirdos runnin that show.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 18, 2003, 09:08:00 PM

Yep, been hearing the same thing. IVY RIDGE acadmey seems to be becoming a facility for the employed rapists of new york. Soon enough there un-reported abuse will be be slapped on them with responsibility. I do hear jason finlinson seems to be pretty brutal with the teens. Jason has a reputation with flirting with the girls and also beating the guys.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2003, 08:06:00 PM

Any updates here webmistress?

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on September 24, 2003, 09:28:00 PM

Nothing new here. Business as usual.

No citizen of a liberal and democratic nation profits from a victorious war.
--Ludwig von Mises

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 12:34:00 AM

i had just arrived at ivy ridge when the whole "scandal" occurred and had become close to a few girls involved. the girls were at fault too, for falling back into their bad habits, but yes its true. staff members were fired. there was sexual conduct and drug/alcohol use among and between staff members and a few students.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: LSwi on February 07, 2005, 05:27:00 PM

honestly I wouldnt be surprised if the real story was that the girl offered these favors in exchange for a cigarette--- we do have to remember that there are some smuts in the program.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on February 07, 2005, 05:39:00 PM

You've got to be kidding.
Are you implying that the staffs 'non working choice' might be justified by the minor residents 'non working choice'?
I think the law looks at that much differently than programs.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: LSwi on February 07, 2005, 05:40:00 PM

I dont want to sound as though I'm taking up for Ivy Ridge- but alot of this stuff just doesnt sound right-- like Jason Finlinson flirting with the girls in there-- Jason Finlinson is barely a friendly person.  I just couldnt see him trying to flirt with one of the girls there.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: LSwi on February 07, 2005, 05:45:00 PM

no- not at all-
just bringing a new perspective to the issue
You must remember that there are people out there that if they have an issue with someone else will make up stories to bring that person down.  I am not saying that the whole thing didnt happen,  it very well could have.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on February 07, 2005, 06:55:00 PM

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On 2005-02-07 14:27:00, LSwi wrote:

"honestly I wouldnt be surprised if the real story was that the girl offered these favors in exchange for a cigarette--- we do have to remember that there are some smuts in the program."

I'm guessing you're a pretty young kid. I didn't understand the concept of adult vs. child relationships and the imbalance of power till I was a little older. From a teenaged girl's pov, it's a pure power trip to be able to push some grown man's buttons sexually. From an adult pov, it's disgusting to think about taking advantage of a young kid sexually.

How do you think the parents of any young girls sent to AIR in part because of inappropriate sexual behavior would feel about the alleged adults in charge taking advantage like that? It wouldn't matter if the teenaged girl were to spread eagle, buck naked in the man's bed and beg for it. It's still 1) wrong for an adult to have sex w/ a minor 2) a profound betrayal if the adult in charge is essentially her jailer and 3) even worse if the parent has entrusted the adult w/ the care of the child.

... and the group leader was a clown.
GregFL

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: LSwi on February 07, 2005, 07:13:00 PM

I wasnt tryin to excuse anyone's behavior-let me make this clear I AGREE THAT IT IS DISGUSTING AND WRONG ON THE ADULTS PART.  I guess I didnt make myself very clear.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on February 07, 2005, 07:39:00 PM

Ok, then what was the point of suggesting that there are "smuts" in the program?

I'll concede a few things too, though. As w/ any other topic, you should believe nothing you hear and only about half what you see. People involved in this particular sort of issue might exagerate because they get into a war mentality; both sides. Some might have honest perceptions that are just warped a bit. Ask anyone trained in sex crimes investigation. One of the first things they learn is that, w/ rare exeption, the perp was not really 7 feet tall w/ huge hands and arms, but a normal looking guy. But nearly all traumatized rape victims honestly believe what they're telling you.

I had a traumatic experience within the last year. I remembered it having occured in a huge room. But, just a couple of months ago, I walked into the same room. I saw the same furniture and fixtures and such. But, much to my surprise, the room was not 1/4 the size I remember.

To get at the truth here, you really have to take in a whole lot of information from a lot of different sources and use the process of elimination.

It takes a thousand voices to tell just one story.

 

I think animal testing is a terrible idea;  they get all nervous and give the wrong answers.    
-- A Bit of Fry and Laurie

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: LSwi on February 07, 2005, 08:08:00 PM

All that I was trying to get at is that stories get switched around and sometimes in the program girls will make up stories to get a staff fired. Not saying thats what happened-just keep it in mind.
And just for the record let me give myself a little introduction.
Im 20 years old.  I graduated (april 2002) the program after  16 agonizing months.  I spent 12 months at SCL and 4 months at AIR, I was one of the first 5  jr staff sent to help get that program started. I wouldnt say I am pro-program or necessarily anti-program-just confused in the middle.  After 2+ years of wondering why I cant just forget about the program I started doing some of my own research and am disgusted with WWASP.   Since the program, I had a year of doing more drugs than I did before the program (dont do anything anymore) and I am finishing up my associates degree in paralegal studies- so thats me.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Antigen on February 07, 2005, 09:19:00 PM

You just keep on truckin, then! Whooo whoooo!!! Go Johnny go!!  :wstupid:

Seriously. It ain't easy, but it sounds to me asif you've got a pretty good handle on things. Just keep your eyes on the prize, whatever it is that you're after. I hope you're able to find some of what you're looking for around here. But I have a feeling you'll find it wherever it lies.

Yes, things do get switched around and distorted. I've heard a dozen or more times that Jason Finlinson is full of shit. But nobody's ever explained exactly what he got wrong or misrepresented. But it's ok. There are hundreds and hundreds of ppl talking. Taken one at a time, probably few or none of them are very credible. Taken altogether, well you begin to get a fairly good idea what's really going on here. Part of it is in the factual accounts that they tell us. Part of it is just evident in how ppl on all sides of the issue tend to behave.

Nothing can be more contrary to religion and the clergy than reason and common sense.
--Francois Marie Arouet "Voltaire", French author and playwright

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2005, 06:05:00 PM

hi i attened if anyone wants to know any information and some of the disgusting things that have happened there please email me. i want for the truth to come out
  jclfla17@hotmail.com

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on February 23, 2005, 06:25:00 PM

jason is married into the licthfield clan via bob's sister.

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2005, 12:38:00 AM

I would like to thank the employee of ivy ridge who posted. About the only intelligent post here. I especially like the part about give your kids up for adoption. How true. The mother of my kid stuck her in ivy ridge to get out of paying me childsupport. I'm pissed. I am 46yrs old. I was placed in a real boarding school when I was 6yrs. old Iwas there till I was 14 and told my mother to go to hell. I t took me 2 weeks and a threat to her mother to finally find out where she had put her. It took another 2weeks to get the tour of the place. I have filed for custody.Is there abuse going on a ivy ridge. I guarentee it. I could see it before I ever left my house for the 6hr ride to get there. I have the letters from my daughter telling me not to take her mother to court and try to get her out of the "school" This pissed me off. A real "school" would never have allowed her to know what I was doing. Ask any counselor in the world and they would tell you it was wrong. Excuse my french but read your fucking handbook that you were given on page 12 about manipulation. I was then allowed to go to the school for a tour. I have been a few places in my life. I was an over the road truckdriver. Odgensburg, NY . Been there before the middle of nowwhere. Real onehorse town. ivy ridge will put this town on the map.Probably one ofthe largest employers in the town I do the tour bullshit. I was walking down the hall and the kids would sneak glances at me. I asked about that. I was told until they get to a certain "level" you can't talk. Holly shit, you take a dog to obiedence school and at least he can bark. You know what, I don't have the time to tell you dumb ass parents about it .I have been in Jail (for childsupport) and boarding school for 9yrs and ivy ridge. That is also the degree of dificulty. Jail is a piece of cake . Boarding school sucked and ivy ridge is the bottom of the fucking barrell. If you are a parent reading this, use your fucking yuppy head. You tell your kids you don't want them to grow up and work in Micky D's, Who do you think is taking care of your kids. I went to a bar whileI was there and talked to some people.what a joke.Think of this, where you work, you have good and bad employees. Do you think this shit hole is any different. I went to a so called respectable boarding school. There was sexual abuse there and this was in the 60's. Get you head out of your ass. Can you really be this fucking stupid. You work at a job what happens when you have somebody with power. Your boss, or somebody elses boss. Do some of them abuse the power?? Do cops, judges,teachers and even the asshole security guard abuse there power. Put anybody incontrol of somebody and there is the potential for abuse. Now, take the mentality of some of the employees of ivy ridge. You dumb asses. Do you honestly think that one of these hillbillies wouldn't take a blowjob for a smoke. Hell,our one fucken president did it. Where was the secret service?? This place is supposed to be above that? I have been there done that. Do I still have the scares from when I was in a boarding school. Hell yes, 35 yrs later. You ass holed have more money than brains. Insted of the 2cars and the big house you should of spent somemoney on learning how to be a parent. You invented the word TIME OUT. Now you assholes invented the saying, My kid is out of control. Never heard that when I was growing up.Hey, put the kid on ridlin, he must have a problem. You are the fuckin problem. ivy ridge says the kids made poor choices. The kid had no choice to have a stupid parents. Sorry to go off but I hate yuppys and stupid people. They both blame others for there problems. I used to see the yuppies at my daughter's sports events, Usually standing there talking to another ashole about there job, there new house, cars,... Hey, asshole , your kid just scored a goal. They are the ones who say that they don't know what went wrong with so and so's kid . He came from a good family. Nice neighborhood and gave him or her everything. You know who you are. You sent your kid to a place, Not a school. They cheat to get your kid through school. Your kid is home schooled. If you are so fucking smart, have one of the parents stay home and teach the kid. Save the $ 40,000.00 plus cash. Remember this is equal to making$60,000.00. No don't, you were dumb enough to send your kid to ivy ridge your too stupid to educate them. Shit you too stupid to be a parent. Remember, you are the minority, there are a hell of alot more good parents than bad. Hey, the next time you go out to eat at Micky D's or the country club look at the person who waites on you and tell him that you have more money than him but, he will probably be a better parent. And, for the kids who got out of these places. When you turn 18 get a lawyer. Sue you parents, they fucked you. They put you on this earth and didn't do there job. They had choices. abortion, adoption. But they chose to fuck you up themselves. If your still in ivy ridge, I know you wont be reading this. Also, I would be glad to take a couple kids at my house. You give me custody will call the $40,000.00 childsupport and it will be tax free to me. I will teach you kid what he or she needs to know. EPa3437202@aol.com

Title: Academy at Ivy Ridge wants to give us some free publicity!!
Post by: Anonymous on February 24, 2005, 12:50:00 AM

Do you have court order visitations? if is you should go make sure every visit is taken. If you get a entire weekend take her off campus and out of state even. WWASP will not put up with this and will kick her out. Also if you go this route make sure you have your divorce papers that spell out the visits and if they try to deny you a visit the police have to help enforce your visit.

Also if you have partial custidy you can pull her from Ivy Ridge yourself even, you dont need her monthers permission. Just be prepared for a court battle.

E-mail me at drgraves2@charter.net and i will try to help you.