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You bet'cha Alice was the best we were residents together for a while, she was still in when I became staff then worked with me at Elan 7 while I was Ass. Director. She was in re-entry at the time with Diane Hozman who also worked with me. There was no evidence I saw at that time that would lead me to think she was abusive to the residents, she really had no authority at that time to do anything anyways.
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Re: Elan 6, 78-80
by dannyb50 on Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:10 pm
I was around till 9/78 at that time I worked for Elan at Elan 7 right behind Elan 3 if you were looking towards the lake on the left, used to be the dorm I slept in when I first arrived at Elan 3 in 6/75. I subsequently went on to Elan 5. I also worked in Parsonfield back when Peter McCann was director, it was Rick Rosenhaus, Larry Smaller, Peter and myself. When did these riots happen? I was the Ass. Director of Elan 7 and as I said I was a resident for 18 mons. Rich maybe I know you I really can't remember 31 yrs ago. Anyway glad I found this site nice chatting. OH, By the way Alice Dunn was the best I was her staff member p/t at Elan 3. She busted her butt to get where she was going, that's just my opinon from someone who was there when she started her adventure at Elan.
Peace and Love at Ken Zaretsky's
Now isn't this site moderated for flaming, insulting or inciting anger. I have never antagonized Felice on this forum, I am asking for the same respect. I got banned for what she is doing here.
Danny
Reads more like Eliscu's airing some potential hypocrisy is all... I can see how some people wouldn't like that.
Moreover, by the simple virtue of your ability to post here, it is clear that you are not currently banned from the Elan forum.
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Re: 74-76 Poland Springs
Ed, I was in E5 from 10/75 till 1/77 before that in E3 for about 4 mons. My name is Danny Bennison I would have been in 5 when you were there. Also I was staff right after graduation 1/77 till 11/78 in E4 and E7 when it was first built out of the dorms behind E3 heading to the lake on the right. Mar...
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Re: 74-76 Poland Springs
Joy I do remember you and Patty Blinkhorn, crazy Raymond Messier, Mike Holeman ect..... I came in 6/75 to Elan 3 then transfered to Elan 5. My name is Daniel Bennison how I remember you is a mystery but I do. Vincent Smith what a big guy. Well that's all my brain can do know, oh I am also 50yrs old ...
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Re: Elan from 75-78
:lol: Mikey com'on dude, big Mike...I kno you remember Tricia McCarty. Now you will remember me.
Danny Bennison Elan 5.
by dannyb50
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Sandy I worked at Elan 4 from 2/77 till 2/78 so maybe you were there do you remember what years were talking about. How are you doing all these years later I hope life has been kind to you. Danny
by dannyb50
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Re: Those who got out and did nothing should be ashamed
Not to jump on the band wagon of Doug, please explain when the hell do we talk about why we ended up in Elan in the first place. Listen I didn't end up their b/cuz I was having a tremendously fascinating life w/ all kinds of successes. Hey most of us came out of juvenile detention centers, other tre...
by dannyb50
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Re: lookin for ols friends
Sandy I was there from 75 till 78 my name is Danny Bennison. I was in Elan 3 then moved to Elan 5 when Marty Kruglick was director. I worked Elan 4 in Parsonfield w/ Peter McCann, Rick Rosenhaus, and Larry Smaller. I am trying to remember you but can't at this point. Give me a clue?
by dannyb50
on Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:17 pm
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Re: Elan from 75-78
:lol: Mike O'neil got in touch w/ me on this board or 404-936-6141. Danny Bennison.
by dannyb50
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Re: Elan from 75-78
Hey my name is Daniel Bennison I was there from this time and in a house w/ Mike from R.I. Elan 5. Mike nice to know your still alive. Our Director was Marty and you were transferred to Elan 6. We played some great games of football against one another. Champanionship Game Elan 5 vs Elan 6. Couldn't...
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on Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:39 pm
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All the content on this site suddenly vanished. I have a feeling Danny contacted Rich W about deleting all the responses.
Too bad I copied it before it was "edited".
Obviously "someone" went whining to their boss, I mean Ken Zaretsky.
Seriously those child torturers need to stick together.
See HERE (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=29840&p=359253#p359253).
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Ursus,
Calling me a "Alice Dunn Lover" is a insult so therefore it is flaming.
Felice was doing both with that post and I am asking for this type of flaming to stay out of the Elan Forum. We have plenty of forums here to insult me.
Who died and made you king shit? You are not a fucking moderator! Quit trying to run things, you are NOT on staff anymore.
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Those who got out and did nothing should be ashamed
Postby TennisPro on Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:59 pm
Let me let everyone in on something: Elan HAS NOT changed.
You were abused and by staying quiet, the abuse has only evolved and continued.
I was told by many people to quit my whining because MY Elan was a tame place by 2001.
-beating up some kid in 'the ring' is tame?
-watching a 16 year old shove a pen into his abdomen is tame?
-having to build a shield to not get spit and semen on my face is tame?
-being emotionally abused on a hourly basis?
-seeing people in the corner for well over a year?
-receiving no REAL education, being cheated out of one?
-finding sharpened shanks in a corner students shoe?
-having my letters read, and at times thrown away, without my knowledge?
-having my every phone call listened to?
I could go on and on and on.
We all suffer from a form of Stockholm Syndrome, Elan know this and uses it to their advantage...
"The Stockholm Syndrome comes into play when a captive cannot escape and is isolated, but is shown token acts of kindness by the captor. It typically takes about three or four days for the psychological shift to take hold. The syndrome explains what happens in hostage-taking situations, but can also be used to understand the behavior of battered spouses, members of religious cults, Holocaust victims, household pets, and perhaps even users of Internet Explorer. I think it may also help explain the popularity of government and of the mass institutionalization of young people.
http://sniggle.net/stock.php (http://sniggle.net/stock.php)"
I got out 10 years ago and believed the same garbage many of you believed, that Elan had FINALLY changed, until I read this:
Here is a comment from a recent article titled Good News: Bad Economy Killing Abusive Teen Programs.
(Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szal (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maia-szal) ... 62696.html)
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"I was a student at the Elan School for 3 years from 2005 to 2008. I am still traumatized by what I went through during my time there. Waking up each day the environment was constant screaming and swearing, by students, but more so by the "staff". I remember as a new student, I was crying when I was told to scrub a garbage can as a punishment for something so minor that I can't even remember the cause. I has stopped cleaning it, and that was when the staff determined that I has to be restrained and dragged to "the corner", isolation in a room to the point when one barely feels human. I tried to fight back, as any normal person would do when one is touched and forcefully grabbed without consent. Instead of just bringing me to the corner, the staff had other students hold me up, my hands and feet restrained, as other students were forced to scream and degrade me. I say forced, because regretfully I have also done the same to other students, and I know that if they refused to participate in this abominable event they too would have been punished. The only way to survive in this setting was to shut down emotionally. This memory haunts me to current day.
This school needs to be shut down, and I am happy if that day is coming near. Even if Elan survives the recession, it should still be closed. However, this could prove to be exceedingly difficult, because the students in the school are pressured not even to think a bad thought about the program, let alone utter it, and will receive punishment if they fail to oblige that rule. I know that while I was at the school investigations were conducted, and students were pressured into lying. Furthermore, a survey was also done, which now appears on the school's website, some questions asking about if we felt comfortable at the school. It was said to be anonymous, but again we felt pressured into lying, staff was supervising, and each of our handwriting could be easily identified.
I hope someone reacts to the atrocity that is the Elan School."
How long are we going to allow these people to get FILTHY rich off of the exploitation and torment of children?
Elan is a cult. Period. It evolved from a cult, and has all the characteristics of a cult.
Here is an email I recently sent someone:
Elan is a cult. This is a fact. Elan evolved from a cult called Synanon, this is another fact. The entire nation is being kept in the dark, to the great advantage of the Elan corporation. The licensing agencies are supposed to be doing their job, but like you, they are not. They are looking for and selectively hearing what they want and the result is CHILDREN as young as 13 being permanently damaged for life.
I call Elan a cult because of the following definition from Google:
–noun
1.
a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
7. the members of such a religion or sect.
8. any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific.
1. The rites and ceremonies of Elan are instilled from the first footstep as a student onto the complex. Elan's rites and ceremonies in 2009 are the EXACT same as they were in 1970. They altered and deleted some ONLY when it was convenient to them.
2. The students in Elan MUST be the admirers, to utter a breath against the program is heresy, every student will turn on you to prove their allegiance, which lessens their time in Elan, other students vote on your promotions and staff are considered Gods, their power is unchallenged and you learn VERY quickly that you are no longer in America, you are in Elan. This is the most terrifying though imaginable. The fact that you ARE THERE and IT EXIST is enough proof that Elan has the resources to do WHATEVER IT WANTS.
3. You devote your life to Elan, or they take it away forever. If you cannot succeed, they will instill FAILURE into every thing you hold dear.
4. As a group, you punish and degrade anyone who thinks freely against the program.
5. Everything centers around the idea of 'guilt', they make a mockery out of your every thought, they hand you a blank piece of paper and to hand it back blank makes you guilty until proven innocent. Extremely guilty.
6. We are completely under the direction of charismatic leaders, leaders that Elan hand-picks and creates, I know because I was one of them. Many come back to become staff. Marc Rosenberg, the most charismatic staff member, never left.
7. We were truly a sect, we were all followers
8. This is the definition of Elan, even an outsider cannot refute that. I dare you to.
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I can be reached at jeff.wimbelton@gmail.com, everyone can play a part in this, the recession has Elan down, we can kick them while they are down. It is only fair, that is exactly what they did to us.
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Re: Those who got out and did nothing should be ashamed
Postby sandywillette on Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:03 pm
i was there in the late 70's wasnt quite as violent as u r saying, depending on the house u were in i quess
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Re: Those who got out and did nothing should be ashamed
Postby The Doug on Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:34 pm
Well heres a new angle I hadnt considered. Its my fault!
Are you a doctor, a psychologist or just another armchair critic explaining whats "wrong with us"?
Way too many of the latter with so much helpful advice to offer those of us stricken with the Elan virus!
I "got out and did nothing" Should I be ashamed? Fuck no. I was 18, confused and no better off than when I went in. Shit it took 20 years to understand that Elans "treatment" may have been illegal or simply counterproductive. Did I suddenly feel an urge to picket Elans intake building to save the soul of a future resident? Nope.
Here is what I DID do:
I knew exactly when I was leaving Elan. I lived 2.5 hours away, and thought it would be nothing to drive back up and rescue anyone who may have wanted to be rescued. So I laid the ground work for an "escape"
Myself and two friends drove to Elan late at night and went to the dorms of E-3 to "save" three people who signed up:
Bill D from Chicago, Annette P from NH, and Joe D from Boston.
Guess what happened?
Not ONE of them wanted to leave, and nobody who witnessed our attempted extraction wanted to go with us either.
Hmmmm.
As far as your post though, it reminds me of a common problem with abuse in this country: Too many people blame the victim.
Your ideas are not new or any more revealing than those of Kens buddy "Dan Bostdorff" with his quest for dirt to produce another book: He commonly recruited with the comment "If you claim you were not effected by Elan, youre even sicker than you think, or an apologist. Which is it"?
I can only muster up two words in response to his musings, and yours:
1) Bull
2) Shit
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Doug
(PS- Kidding Ken...Any word form Danno lately? I dont bother with the Elan drama anymore but had to speak up in response to this gem)
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Re: Those who got out and did nothing should be ashamed
Postby dannyb50 on Mon Nov 16, 2009 10:30 pm
Not to jump on the band wagon of Doug, please explain when the hell do we talk about why we ended up in Elan in the first place. Listen I didn't end up their b/cuz I was having a tremendously fascinating life w/ all kinds of successes. Hey most of us came out of juvenile detention centers, other treatment centers, somekind of diagnostic center, mental health centers,or other types of special schools and let me tell ya' we weren't on the "honor rolls" in these instutions either. I am not condoning, excusing or anything else that can be called abusive that happened there but isn't it a little calling the kettle black. I was freaking ABUSIVE man always that's what scared little guys do at 13,14,15,16,ect. I just didn't like when Vicent Smith and Mike ? jacked my ass up b/cus I wouldn't stop acting inappropriate. First time in my life at that time that I coundn't lie my way out, run my way out, fight my way out or talk my way out. It was over for me. Dude I am not a "VICTIM" I stopped that when i realized I was a mature responsible adult. So yes Elan was a dark place and Elan also was a beacon of light. This world holds both what path are you on. Love and Peace brother. Daniel L.
Bennison Elan 3 & 5 (75' till 77')
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Re: Those who got out and did nothing should be ashamed
Postby TennisPro on Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:31 pm
Wow "The Doug", maybe you have a hard time understanding things, or maybe you just don't like to read.
1st off.....You went back and DID do something, you apparently tried to rescue a few people, good for you. Since you clearly made at least ONE attempt to be part of the solution, my post is not directed at you, but you still want to argue?
2nd off.....If you actually READ what I wrote then you would have a very obvious answer to why the residents did not want to "escape". Had someone driven up to bust me out of Elan, at the time, I would not have gotten in the car either. It is called 'The Stockholm Syndrome".
Hmmmmm.
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Is this allowed on this forum according to the rules, What Anne is doing here. I just would like to have it clarified on a Moderated Forum with rules. Psy, Ginger, Ursus, Sekto, Che, and Inculcated, I thought the reason we brought in Ursus and Inculcated was to rain in this aggression on the Elan Forum. I tried to get a answer concerning Felice inflammatory comments but Ursus and Inculcated chose not to really give me the time of day. So if Anne can sound off they way she is then that leaves the door open for equal feedback. I really don't feel like doing that here nor reading that here on this site. I'm sure no one else does really.
Danny
Yanno what ya little crybaby? If you're really that thin-skinned....have at it. I'm gonna go play on the boat for the weekend so ya got it aaaalllllllllll to youself. Y'all have fun.
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Ursus,
Calling me a "Alice Dunn Lover" is a insult so therefore it is flaming.
Felice was doing both with that post and I am asking for this type of flaming to stay out of the Elan Forum. We have plenty of forums here to insult me.
Who died and made you king shit? You are not a fucking moderator! Quit trying to run things, you are NOT on staff anymore.
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Is this allowed on this forum according to the rules, What Anne is doing here. I just would like to have it clarified on a Moderated Forum with rules. Psy, Ginger, Ursus, Sekto, Che, and Inculcated, I thought the reason we brought in Ursus and Inculcated was to rain in this aggression on the Elan Forum. I tried to get a answer concerning Felice inflammatory comments but Ursus and Inculcated chose not to really give me the time of day. So if Anne can sound off they way she is then that leaves the door open for equal feedback. I really don't feel like doing that here nor reading that here on this site. I'm sure no one else does really.
Danny
Reining in excessive aggression and flaming on the Elan forum does not equate with removing each and every thing posted that someone has a problem with. If that were the case, I can assure you that virtually nothing would get posted.
As I suggested to you yesterday, if you are truly bothered with the descriptive of "Alice Dunn Lover," you might want to take it up with Felice privately and see what you two can work out. Barring that, you are of course completely within your rights to voice a rebuttal or clarification.
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Why am I being asked about this? I'm the moderator of the No Serious Business forum in which I'm appointed the duty of nuking spam and porn. How Ursus and Inuculated choose to moderate this forum is their business. The majority of the Elan Alumni, but certainly not all of you, lost the privilege to question moderation decisions when you all trolled your own mod into a state of near lunacy and she started posting IP addresses.
So seriously, shut the hell up and deal with it all of you. YOU Elaners made your bed now fucking sleep in it god damn it.
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I agree with you Eliscu2 he started it first and will not accept that.
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Obviously he is a paid shill.
He has proven that over and over.
I wonder why he does not talk about that girl he tied to a van and dragged around or the paddle he drilled holes in so that it would cause more pain and damage?
I would really like to hear an apology to all of the Children he abused in the name of Therapy.
But.................considering he is still on the Elan payroll, he does a wonderful job TROLLING.
I love Trolls :heartbreak:
Yeah, I asked about that a few days ago. He really did that?
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Danny, I've asked this question a few times and you've chosen to ignore it so here goes again.
Did I read correctly that you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it?
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Obviously he is a paid shill.
He has proven that over and over.
I wonder why he does not talk about that girl he tied to a van and dragged around or the paddle he drilled holes in so that it would cause more pain and damage?
I would really like to hear an apology to all of the Children he abused in the name of Therapy.
But.................considering he is still on the Elan payroll, he does a wonderful job TROLLING.
I love Trolls :heartbreak:
Did you do that??
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Danny, I've asked this question a few times and you've chosen to ignore it so here goes again.
Did I read correctly that you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it?
He accused Matt Hoffman of stabbing his friend so I don't think you'll get an honest answer!
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Danny, I've asked this question a few times and you've chosen to ignore it so here goes again.
Did I read correctly that you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it?
He accused Matt Hoffman of stabbing his friend so I don't think you'll get an honest answer!
Didn't really expect honesty out of him, but I do notice that he completely ignores the question, even though it's been posed to him numerous times. To me, that says something right there.
Danny....any response to the allegations that you tied a girl to a van and dragged her behind it?? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Danny....any response to the allegations that you tied a girl to a van and dragged her behind it?? Inquiring minds want to know.
Please answer the question Danny! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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Annie girl you did not read Ginger post,
What is that...Unfrozen Caveman speak??
he did in fact do that no question about it, ask him Matt.
One more time in English please. I have no idea what that is supposed to say.
Then went on after they got out in Portland Me and attcked the dude again. That is a fact. Sorry I know he sounds so sweet....just want to cuddle with him uhhhhh.
Yeah I thought I answered that, she is still in the trunk of my car......Oh shit I should not have said that.....Please post this quickly before I delete it.
So, did you or did you not tie a girl to a van and drag her around behind it? Why is it so difficult for you to answer the question without the sarcasm or stupid remarks?
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So, did you or did you not tie a girl to a van and drag her around behind it? Why is it so difficult for you to answer the question without the sarcasm or stupid remarks?
He is making false allegations about Matt to avoid answering the question! :cheers: :cheers:
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So, did you or did you not tie a girl to a van and drag her around behind it? Why is it so difficult for you to answer the question without the sarcasm or stupid remarks?
He is making false allegations about Matt to avoid answering the question! :cheers: :cheers:
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Hey all ,
look that did happen in elan by me to another resident . The assualt incident , and God yes I am still sorry after the incident 35 years ago. I do maintain that if elan and the lunacy that passed for therapy there had been wholesome and compassionate and you REALLEY felt that it was a safe place , that the incident would have never happened.
danny was not in elan for at least another 2 months after this fact. danny was not in my house.
The fight that happened months after I got out of elan did happen .....but not the way the twisted messenger supplies this information. There were other witnesses to this incident that were not even remotely connected to elan . When I fell in this fight and smashed the back of my head on the pavement to the point that I was totally incapacitated ,they watched in horror as his buddy repeated kicked me over and over. I was so incapacitated that I didn't fell the kicks.
what the messenger fails to mention is that my friends got between me and his buddy's caddilac because they were afraid that he was going to run me over and I am grateful to them for that . They also wanted to know who that fellow was.
In danny's ability to obstrufacate a phone call that I had with him about this he fails to mention really any of the facts , yet his astral projection acounting of the fight misses one fact completely and that is I did not start throwing punches first .And yes this was the fellow I assaulted in elan .
I swear it just blows my mind , folks I have got to refrain from responding to this nonsense. If you have questions about the assualt incident please ask though I have no desire to reply the assistant director's false acusations any more .
danny I am not in elan anymore that was 34 years ago .....But I do want it exposed and shut down and the henchmen that ran it well you know where they should spend the rest of their natural lives.
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Matt you are so far locked up in Elan you don't even know and your buddies here on this site just keep you trapped in that perpetual cycle, Ginger loves this shit. It is good press for them. Yes Matt you still are at Elan 34 years later, just like you just walked out of a meeting with your friends Mark, Sharon and Felice.
The henchman are dead....duh, your not locking up anyone the program has 30 residents and is fast becoming a private school, no more therapy just a school. Most folks work at the race track.
So you pissed away your shot 10 years ago, pal. Felice where the hell were you. Trashing other people of course.
Jeff Gottlieb is hanging by a thread and if you even think your getting Marty try again, outside of kidnapping the son of bitch and beating to near death to get him to talk, forget it. It's over.
Best you can do now is write a book and shut the fuck up.
All this documentation is great, it will make sure this never happens again, people can come from Elan and read about there past. Yes Matt past, most people I have come to understand have this as there past not present.
Here is the difference between you and others that have put this in the past, I don't wish really anyone hell, nor do I wish ill will to them, I have forgiven them and moved on. Now if I could help bring them to justice fine but that is not coming from anger anymore.
My attitude here does not bare out what I just said and I know that, I am a hypocrite. But I will keep pushing ahead to work this out on this site.
Matt I really did like you and it is really to bad things have to be the way they are.
I wish you peace.
Danny
Danny speaking like a true ELAN staffer tough guy!
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The henchman are dead....duh, your not locking up anyone the program has 30 residents and is fast becoming a private school, no more therapy just a school. Most folks work at the race track.
Is this what you believe, Danny?
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The henchman are dead....duh, your not locking up anyone the program has 30 residents and is fast becoming a private school, no more therapy just a school. Most folks work at the race track.
Is this what you believe, Danny?
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Obviously your not understanding dude, don't post me, email me or anything me, OK. Ursus like Sekto leave me alone. I have nothing for ya at all. Now if that is not good enough for you, well then I don't know what to tell you. Go ask somebody else.
Danny
It's a very simple question, Danny. You can do it. Give it a shot.
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Danny just e-mailed me gay porn and something should be done about this! Danny now fuck off! :cheers: :cheers: :jamin: :peace:
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Though in July of this year I will be in Maine for my brothers 35 anniversary. I do plan on visiting Elan if they would have me and I do plan on going to the horsetrack.
He may apply for a job at ELAN! :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger:
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So, did you or did you not tie a girl to a van and drag her around behind it?
I think this is the fifth time asking. And I do genuinely want to know.
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So, did you or did you not tie a girl to a van and drag her around behind it?
I think this is the fifth time asking. And I do genuinely want to know.
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Anne if as you say you raised children, are a mother, wife and have a career, I fail to understand why I have to be badgered by you with these idiotic questions. This is none other then a continuing attempt to debase me on your behalf.
So as I have asked others with your intelligence, please leave me alone. The party is over and everyone including yourself needs to get back to work, I am not answering any more foolish questions anymore, if you want to go back in threads and read, I have already answered that particular question. If your not satisfied with that answer, talk with the lady who started this story and she knows the truth. (Felice)
In any case, I am appealing to your good graces and asking for you to leave me alone at this time.
I will gladly do the same.
Danny
So.......is that a yes or a no?
'sawright. I think I got my answer in your complete and total avoidance of the question. Although I would like someone to explain what happened. That's some pretty fucked up shit!
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So as I have asked others with your intelligence, please leave me alone. The party is over and everyone including yourself needs to get back to work, I am not answering any more foolish questions anymore, if you want to go back in threads and read, I have already answered that particular question.
Out of curiosity, Danny, just how many people here have you asked to "leave you alone?" It begins to beg the question of: "What on earth are you doing on fornits?"
If you are seeking to censor everyone from asking you any questions, you're probably on the wrong forum.
Jes sayin' ...
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But here is the real story of Mary O'Brain,
Here is the problem with this whole story Felice because once again it shows your lack of empathy for anyone at Elan, even yourself. Mary O'Brain was like a few residents we had she was a orphan. Mary's foster parents so traumatized her it was not funny, she ran from there and ended up in juvie, where she was being beaten just about everyday, if it wasn't for Mariam Streets from Rhode Island mental services Mary would have probably been beaten to death in there.
I first met Mary along with others in Elan at the Rhode Island Diagnostic Center in Cranston or Warwick R.I. She was a mess like alot of us. So the next time I see Mary she is at Elan, Marium placed her there to keep her alive till she was 18.
When I became Director of E-7 Mary requested to come to my house because she always liked the way I treated her. I asked for her transfer in a Directors meeting and was granted permission. At that time I had 4 other Rhode Island residents that were in that center also in my house by my asking permission for transfers. These were the folks that nobody thought would make it. Some did, some didn't.
Now here is the very sad part of this story, Mary is dead not exactly sure on how it all happened but was told many years ago she was horribly beaten to death in Providence R.I.
Now Felice I know this doesn't mean two shits to you, because your to busy having fun at the expense of others. Felice you keep typing away and maybe someday you will gain the satisfaction your looking for.
Even if this was true about Mary O'Brain, what your saying, my point is still true. You don't give a shit about her, the only thing you give a shit about is disgracing me or others. My God Felice she was a Elan resident, ya know the ones were trying to remember and honor. I thought we were doing all of this for that also.
First, was her name really Mary O'Brain? I mean, a typo is one thing, but you spelled it that way three times.
Second, was this supposed to be where you "answered" the question about whether or not you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it? Because I'm not seeing where you said you either did or did not tie a girl to the back of a van and drag her around behind it.
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First, was her name really Mary O'Brain? I mean, a typo is one thing, but you spelled it that way three times.
Second, was this supposed to be where you "answered" the question about whether or not you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it? Because I'm not seeing where you said you either did or did not tie a girl to the back of a van and drag her around behind it.
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Anne this post will be one of my worst probably to date because I find you very disgusting down to your filthy avatar, which speaks volumes about you.
No I will not talk to you about anything to do with Mary O'Brian, nor do I really want to discuss anything else with you.
Your a douche bag, ya know the kind that provides a service and then when your done ya throw it away. Your time is over....bye. Only in your case the repulsive smell never goes away.
You don't give a shit about these kids, you care about your 15 mins. of attention. How you look on Fornits, you make me sick. Your a publicity whore. You and Felice.....
So that'd be a yes then. Gotcha and good to know. Cuz it's really, really, really fucked up to tie a girl to a van and drag her around behind it. It's also pretty fucked up to drill holes in a paddle so that it hurts more when being hit by it. 'Course it's also pretty fucked up to be whacking kids with a paddle anyway.
So please stay away from me...just fuck off.
Danny
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Email, I received in regards to my posting my reply to Douche Bag Anne and her enema Felice.
Now this is a bogus story, Ursus knows this along with the 2 characters and I'm supposed to play along with. Well y'all know I give give a rats ass about whether I am on a forum or not. So that does not deter me from saying whatever I want.
This is after Ursus allowing a Thread to go up with the name of "Alice Dunn Lover", and his response to that, now this is his intellegence, "GO TALK WITH FELICE IF YOU WANT IT REMOVED".
So now he sends me this email below.
Well pal, here is my response to you (SEKTO GOT USED TO THIS) go fuck yourself and your momma and the horse both of you came in on....OK, Oh and just in case there is no miss understanding, this was to you "URSUS".
Please copy and posts this many times and make sure your errand girl runs this over to the Elan site on facebook.
Then keep one last one and please post it on your mirror.
I love how he says stoops to depths, dragging a girl behind in a car is not stooping to depths.
Thanks
Danny
Re: Name that Abuser/Director
Sent: 42 minutes ago
From: Ursus
To: DannyB II
Subject: Name that Abuser/Director
Anne speaks:
First, was her name really Mary O'Brain? I mean, a typo is one thing, but you spelled it that way three times.
Second, was this supposed to be where you "answered" the question about whether or not you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it? Because I'm not seeing where you said you either did or did not tie a girl to the back of a van and drag her around behind it.
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Danny speaks:
Anne this post will be one of my worst probably to date because I find you very disgusting down to your filthy avatar, which speaks volumes about you.
No I will not talk to you about anything to do with Mary O'Brian, nor do I really want to discuss anything else with you.
Your a douche bag, ya know the kind that provides a service and then when your done ya throw it away. Your time is over....bye. Only in your case the repulsive smell never goes away.
You don't give a shit about these kids, you care about your 15 mins. of attention. How you look on Fornits, you make me sick. Your a publicity whore. You and Felice.....
So please stay away from me...just fuck off.
Please repost this over and over and stick on your bedroom mirror.
Danny
Ursus speaks in email:
My guess is this is gratuitous flaming. Cool yer jets a bit. I'm leaving it for now, since it's already been amply quoted, but it might yet get yanked anyway.
Consider the feasibility of expressing your anger without stooping to those depths in the future.
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Email, I received in regards to my posting my reply to Douche Bag Anne and her enema Felice.
Now this is a bogus story, Ursus knows this along with the 2 characters and I'm supposed to play along with. Well y'all know I give give a rats ass about whether I am on a forum or not. So that does not deter me from saying whatever I want.
This is after Ursus allowing a Thread to go up with the name of "Alice Dunn Lover", and his response to that, now this is his intellegence, "GO TALK WITH FELICE IF YOU WANT IT REMOVED".
So now he sends me this email below.
Well pal, here is my response to you (SEKTO GOT USED TO THIS) go fuck yourself and your momma and the horse both of you came in on....OK, Oh and just in case there is no miss understanding, this was to you "URSUS".
Please copy and posts this many times and make sure your errand girl runs this over to the Elan site on facebook.
Then keep one last one and please post it on your mirror.
I love how he says stoops to depths, dragging a girl behind in a car is not stooping to depths.
Thanks
Danny
Re: Name that Abuser/Director
Sent: 42 minutes ago
From: Ursus
To: DannyB II
Subject: Name that Abuser/Director
Anne speaks:
First, was her name really Mary O'Brain? I mean, a typo is one thing, but you spelled it that way three times.
Second, was this supposed to be where you "answered" the question about whether or not you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it? Because I'm not seeing where you said you either did or did not tie a girl to the back of a van and drag her around behind it.
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Danny speaks:
Anne this post will be one of my worst probably to date because I find you very disgusting down to your filthy avatar, which speaks volumes about you.
No I will not talk to you about anything to do with Mary O'Brian, nor do I really want to discuss anything else with you.
Your a douche bag, ya know the kind that provides a service and then when your done ya throw it away. Your time is over....bye. Only in your case the repulsive smell never goes away.
You don't give a shit about these kids, you care about your 15 mins. of attention. How you look on Fornits, you make me sick. Your a publicity whore. You and Felice.....
So please stay away from me...just fuck off.
Please repost this over and over and stick on your bedroom mirror.
Danny
Ursus speaks in email:
My guess is this is gratuitous flaming. Cool yer jets a bit. I'm leaving it for now, since it's already been amply quoted, but it might yet get yanked anyway.
Consider the feasibility of expressing your anger without stooping to those depths in the future.
Wow. I look sooooooo evil there. I may never live this down! :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
The depths you stooped to, Danny, refer to calling folk all kinds of nasty names for no reason. And on a moderated forum. Like ya just did ... again.
So, because I try to be fair (perhaps you think me fair game), I try to cut ya some slack .... and you tell me to "go fuck yourself and your momma and the horse both of you came in on....OK, Oh and just in case there is no miss understanding, this was to you "URSUS"."
Nice.
Perhaps of greater pertinence to any and all concerned -- who might find themselves in some sort of discourse with you -- is your propensity for posting contents of private messages, personal correspondence, phone conversations and the like on an open forum, along with twisting context and facts in order to portray your victims in the least flattering light. Or what you THINK may appear to be the least flattering light.
I have to wonder just how many real friends you have left in this world. I hope for your sake that you haven't managed to drive them all away.
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They are saying I dragged a girl around you know it is not true and you allow it to go on.
No, I ASKED you....numerous times if you did that. You refused to answer. Dipshit.
GET OFF OUR FORUM.....
Danny
It ain't yours sweetcheeks.
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Where the fuck are you cutting me any slack, are you out of your mind. They are saying I dragged a girl around you know it is not true and you allow it to go on. You knew I did not know Alice Dunn as staff and you also knew she abused folks yet you still allowed the debasing of me to go on.
Dude you are mixing other forums with this one, never until now have I ever said shit to anyone on this forum. Anne is not even from Elan and neither are you, so frankly I don't give a shit what you do. This as far as I'm concerned stopped being a Elan forum when your ass came with that other dipshit. GET OFF OUR FORUM.....
Danny
Gosh, Danny, you sure are sensitive about anyone asking you about any details ya might find uncomfortable, yet you sure know how to dish it out when it comes to squashing any such questioners that ya find so objectionable.
Let's analyze this in detail. First, Anne asked, several times in fact, but here is her latest prior to your outburst:
First, was her name really Mary O'Brain? I mean, a typo is one thing, but you spelled it that way three times.
Second, was this supposed to be where you "answered" the question about whether or not you tied a girl to a van and dragged her around behind it? Because I'm not seeing where you said you either did or did not tie a girl to the back of a van and drag her around behind it.
You, Danny, replied with this little tactless gem:
Anne this post will be one of my worst probably to date because I find you very disgusting down to your filthy avatar, which speaks volumes about you.
No I will not talk to you about anything to do with Mary O'Brian, nor do I really want to discuss anything else with you.
Your a douche bag, ya know the kind that provides a service and then when your done ya throw it away. Your time is over....bye. Only in your case the repulsive smell never goes away.
You don't give a shit about these kids, you care about your 15 mins. of attention. How you look on Fornits, you make me sick. Your a publicity whore. You and Felice.....
So please stay away from me...just fuck off.
Please repost this over and over and stick on your bedroom mirror.
Danny
Think ya might have been able to word it a little differently? Not only did you completely ignore her question, but you called her a whole lot of derogatory names, and for what? 'Cuz you don't like being asked that question? How about just answering the question, straight out, and be done with it? Or if you don't feel like answering it, just say that, or ignore it, whatever...
It really seems like you just feel a need to trash everyone and everything, regardless of reason or provocation. Like you have some kinda reality disconnect going on and yer in robot-malfunction mode.
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My Man, Ursus the Copy and Paste Man....
You're not terribly bright, are you?
Ursus you were asked several times not to fuck with me but hey you chose to, so I started posting facts about you and others. Low down dirty facts, yeah ones you stoop way down to depths. Ya know ones your bumping your head on curbs because your so low.
Really? Cuz I haven't seen any yet.
Now you get somewhat of a idea what I have had to put up with for 3 months. Examples; Low down dirty phone calls to my wife, computer hacks, letters to my house,
Are you saying Fornits members are doing those things?
Now you want to tell me this stupid fucking bullshit you come out with, I put out facts like it or not. I don't fucking care if you like Matt, Felice or Anne you fucking pussy if they fuck with me I'll cut their nuts off and shove them down their throats,
Are you threatening me? You said in another thread that Grady Whites look like my boat. I asked how you knew what my boat looked like, you never answered. Should I be worried?
Matt is one big fat pussy always has been somebody should have dropped kicked that sick fuckers ass a long time ago. But I thought Mr Abrams dealt with it well, most of us well Matt, if you had stabbed me shit....Then came around me on the outside. We are talking about the real world right.
Yeah, well that "big fat pussy" was more man than you and owned what he did.
You fucked with me Ursus, so deal with it.
Danny
Perhaps of greater pertinence to any and all concerned -- who might find themselves in some sort of discourse with you -- is your propensity for posting contents of private messages, personal correspondence, phone conversations and the like on an open forum, along with twisting context and facts in order to portray your victims in the least flattering light. Or what you THINK may appear to be the least flattering light.
I have to wonder just how many real friends you have left in this world. I hope for your sake that you haven't managed to drive them all away.
There's that projection again.
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Perhaps of greater pertinence to any and all concerned -- who might find themselves in some sort of discourse with you -- is your propensity for posting contents of private messages, personal correspondence, phone conversations and the like on an open forum, along with twisting context and facts in order to portray your victims in the least flattering light. Or what you THINK may appear to be the least flattering light.
I have to wonder just how many real friends you have left in this world. I hope for your sake that you haven't managed to drive them all away.
Ursus please stop :waaaa: :waaaa: :waaaa: :waaaa: :waaaa:
I really don't care dude, my friends and I read you everyday. Your part of our entertainment. My Man, Ursus the Copy and Paste Man....
Ursus you were asked several times not to fuck with me but hey you chose to, so I started posting facts about you and others. Low down dirty facts, yeah ones you stoop way down to depths. Ya know ones your bumping your head on curbs because your so low.
Now you get somewhat of a idea what I have had to put up with for 3 months. Examples; Low down dirty phone calls to my wife, computer hacks, letters to my house, innuendos of horrible circumstances, dragging kids around you know and loved and on and on.
Now you want to tell me this stupid fucking bullshit you come out with, I put out facts like it or not. I don't fucking care if you like Matt, Felice or Anne you fucking pussy if they fuck with me I'll cut their nuts off and shove them down their throats, Matt is one big fat pussy always has been somebody should have dropped kicked that sick fuckers ass a long time ago. But I thought Mr Abrams dealt with it well, most of us well Matt, if you had stabbed me shit....Then came around me on the outside. We are talking about the real world right.
You fucked with me Ursus, so deal with it.
Danny
Mmmm. Thus far you've failed to post any "facts" about me. Although, come to think of it, maybe that's why you're always haranguing me for "my story," maybe you are hoping to find some dirt, or what looks like dirt, that you can use on me in open forum. This has, indeed, been your pattern in the past. It goes something like this:
- Be super friendly and down home folksy, gain people's trust and become their friends.
- Join lots of anti-abuse groups on FB so it looks like you're on the side of victims. The super big and generalist groups are always good, ya can still be relatively anonymous and non-committal and still glean yourself a good rep.
- Get folks to open up in private and share their war stories and tales of abuse.
- At some critical point, 'cuz we all know by now that you're addicted to the rush of catharsis and mayhem, ya flip on them and spill their vulnerabilities and private words onto the open forum, twisting facts and context to maximize humiliation and make said deeds appear as evil and debasing as possible.
In fact, the above scenario sounds kinda like what folks already went through at Elan.
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Think ya might have been able to word it a little differently? Not only did you completely ignore her question, but you called her a whole lot of derogatory names, and for what? 'Cuz you don't like being asked that question? How about just answering the question, straight out, and be done with it? Or if you don't feel like answering it, just say that, or ignore it, whatever...
It really seems like you just feel a need to trash everyone and everything, regardless of reason or provocation. Like you have some kinda reality disconnect going on and yer in robot-malfunction mode.
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The only malfunction here is me one more time talking to you. Ursus you are fucking with me along with the gang, I am sick of it. FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danny
ANNE IS A DOUCHE BAG PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO AWAY.....
I don't know 'bout you, but *I'm* having a discussion, and am thoroughly enjoying the debate to boot. But if you find this so damned unpleasant, there's a very simple solution:
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Perhaps of greater pertinence to any and all concerned -- who might find themselves in some sort of discourse with you -- is your propensity for posting contents of private messages, personal correspondence, phone conversations and the like on an open forum, along with twisting context and facts in order to portray your victims in the least flattering light. Or what you THINK may appear to be the least flattering light.
I have to wonder just how many real friends you have left in this world. I hope for your sake that you haven't managed to drive them all away.
Ursus please stop :waaaa: :waaaa: :waaaa: :waaaa: :waaaa:
I really don't care dude, my friends and I read you everyday. Your part of our entertainment. My Man, Ursus the Copy and Paste Man....
Ursus you were asked several times not to fuck with me but hey you chose to, so I started posting facts about you and others. Low down dirty facts, yeah ones you stoop way down to depths. Ya know ones your bumping your head on curbs because your so low.
Now you get somewhat of a idea what I have had to put up with for 3 months. Examples; Low down dirty phone calls to my wife, computer hacks, letters to my house, innuendos of horrible circumstances, dragging kids around you know and loved and on and on.
Now you want to tell me this stupid fucking bullshit you come out with, I put out facts like it or not. I don't fucking care if you like Matt, Felice or Anne you fucking pussy if they fuck with me I'll cut their nuts off and shove them down their throats, Matt is one big fat pussy always has been somebody should have dropped kicked that sick fuckers ass a long time ago. But I thought Mr Abrams dealt with it well, most of us well Matt, if you had stabbed me shit....Then came around me on the outside. We are talking about the real world right.
You fucked with me Ursus, so deal with it.
Danny
Mmmm. Thus far you've failed to post any "facts" about me. Although, come to think of it, maybe that's why you're always haranguing me for "my story," maybe you are hoping to find some dirt, or what looks like dirt, that you can use on me in open forum. This has, indeed, been your pattern in the past. It goes something like this:
- Be super friendly and down home folksy, gain people's trust and become their friends.
- Join lots of anti-abuse groups on FB so it looks like you're on the side of victims. The super big and generalist groups are always good, ya can still be relatively anonymous and non-committal and still glean yourself a good rep.
- Get folks to open up in private and share their war stories and tales of abuse.
- At some critical point, 'cuz we all know by now that you're addicted to the rush of catharsis and mayhem, ya flip on them and spill their vulnerabilities and private words onto the open forum, twisting facts and context to maximize humiliation and make said deeds appear as evil and debasing as possible.
In fact, the above scenario sounds kinda like what folks already went through at Elan.
:shamrock: :shamrock:
Nice Nice Nice, you and your dipshit with the 12 analysis have got me all figured out. Damn you just keep leaving out your part in all of this, please stop using my words when you want to describe me please and once again, Nobody Ever Did This To Me. I just turned up the heat and like Matty you are turning into one big pussy, if you don't like get out of my posts dude. What is this the 100th time I've said this, nobody really gives a hoot about your analysis of me. I don't, I knew once we flipped it back on you here on fornits you folks would just start crying like lambs ready for the slaughter. Oh Danny is doing this and doing that and he must be psychotic even pathological in his lying, he is addicted to mayhem and the rush of catharsis, oh and he has a little we we, possible latent homosexual feeling, he must maximize humiliation on others and all those anti-abuse programs he has joined my god how could he be so hypercritical, Oh Danny using personal info about you and then throws it out to the public, boy I must have been the first to do that...lol on here. Ursus you are such a pussy it is not funny. We are laughing are asses off. Dude this is one big freaking joke and you have been punked. You really think these other posters did not do what I have done to them, you really believe this don't you, as I'm sure others here also believe.
Jeesh you folks have me all figured out, but here we still are, WHAT IS YOUR PART IN THIS, since you love to talk of accountability. Please, Please, Please tell us!!!!!! Nope not going to do it, it will ruin this whole satire.
Danny
Geez Louise, Danny, you're mixing in a lot of charges in there that are not of my doing. It seems you are lumping in the whole rest of fornits or the Elan crowd on one side, all ganged up on you standing on the other. Well... you and your personal party of friends most heartily amused at the goings on. Glad to be a source for your entertainment. Maybe some of y'all might actually take a different look at some of your assumptions and/or way of thinking. :D
As far your charges of my "analysis" go, if the shoe don't fit, why don't you explain how it is otherwise. 'Cuz even though that is what I see from my perspective, and I can truly only speak for myself, your behavior towards other posters here does appear to follow that pattern.
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Wayne I would applaud CAFETY for reading all my posts defending myself from the likes of like you, Kim Morelli, Felice Eliscu. We are all around the same age, big boys and girls, unlike what you did.
Wayne Kat from CAFETY is well aware of all this garbage, everybody you and I know is very up to date on all this bullshit. You are making yourself a first class dip shit by thinking they don't know. By if you
insist please take all the relevant posts you believe will hurt me and post them anywhere your heart desires. Wayne it is over your ass has been revealed, you are a phony and a liar.
What is very sad is you a attacked a survivor (me) and tried to defame and humiliate me. Thank god it didn't work. People know exactly what and who you are. No Wayne they will not get involved in this
stupid parade you and I are doing here. They won't tell you to your face but you know exactly what I am saying. Your credibility is loosing ground as days to by.