On 2004-02-13 18:05:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Again like so much of what is said on this form is pure bull there is no "confirmed" abuse at Dundee ranch and the Restrictions on Mr. Lichfield are now off and the prosecutor has publicly stated he shouldn?t be restricted that there is no evidence of him and abuse, and the owners closed the facility and send the kids home at great cost because they feared for the kids safety as they attacked one another after and during the riots that was started by the fiscal. Its all well documented and the judge who was the legal authority during the crisis is renouncing the fiscal for his abuse of power. Amberly Knight has confirmed over and over again in her conflicting testimony that she witnessed no abuse and she lived on campus night and day. This is just hearsay and gossip being legitimized in its retelling"
On 2004-02-14 10:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
Who wouldn?t want to be seen by the world as ?saving kids? it?s as old as politicians kissing babies.
P.S. Lest anyone misunderstand, I'm refering to the author of the above fairy tale, justifying all of the criticizm of WWASP and, by extension, the entire TOUGHLOVE hategroup as mere manipulation on the part of hated, scapegoated teenagers. I just find it ironic as hell that some ppl can state outright, asif they really understand the concept, of justifying torment in the name of rescue when refering to others but can't see it in themselves.
I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am!
-- Monty Python
On 2004-02-16 09:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
In fact the twins themselves admit they weren?t abused ...
On 2004-02-16 18:49:00, Anonymous wrote:
"If the standards are so impossible, how do so many kids graduate. What you are saying is to make us think of kids bruised, battered and torn. Which they're not. They have rules. Rules that have a purpose and consequences that the kids KNOW about, but choose to break the rules anyway and then blame someone else for what happened. Tough life...following rules, huh? Maybe if they believed and listened to their parents, they wouldn't be in a program to begin with."
On 2004-02-17 18:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
With the staff, outside professionals and parents on the campuses every day and night, tell me why they would ALL turn a blind eye?
It continues to amaze me to talk to law students -- college
graduates all and smarter than the average bear -- who will
seriously tell me about how dangerous mj is and how it
destroys the lives of those who use it and who, in the
very next sentence, will tell me how they and their
friends -- now CPAs, engineers, med students -- used
pot regularly through high school and college. And
they don't see the contradiction between these statements.
We're not just talking ignorance here -- we are talking
deep down, serious, religious indoctrination.
--Buford C. Terrell, Professor of Law, South Texas College of Law
I believe that human beings arrive on this Earth wanting to know absolutely everything, and the best thing we can do as parents is to get out of the way -- just be there to let them know what opportunities are there
-- Dorothy Werner, media liaison for the National Homeschool Association
Mr. Lichfield held with all staff and students in the cafeteria following the Brock twins accusations.
Brock twins all said they didn?t actually see abuse
On 2004-02-18 18:44:00, Timoclea wrote:
"Come back in five years and say whatever you have to say about your TBS experience. Too often the accounts of fresh program leavers or grads are bare of detail compared to their accounts in later years, and too often we hear from program grads five to fifteen years on who say that when they were fresh program leavers or grads they either thought what they went through was okay when it wasn't or they were still too scared to talk about everything that happened.
Because of that phenomenon, those of us outside the program inmate/parent/owner/staff world have to give more weight to the accounts of people who left the program several years ago than to the accounts of people who left the program less than a year ago.
It's a bit like talking to someone fresh out of Scientology, the Unification Church, or TM.I believe that human beings arrive on this Earth wanting to know absolutely everything, and the best thing we can do as parents is to get out of the way -- just be there to let them know what opportunities are there"
-- Dorothy Werner, media liaison for the National Homeschool Association
P.S. - I had to kneel on wood in church 6 days a week for 8 years and then some.
On 2004-02-18 21:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Quote
On 2004-02-18 18:44:00, Timoclea wrote:
"Come back in five years and say whatever you have to say about your TBS experience. Too often the accounts of fresh program leavers or grads are bare of detail compared to their accounts in later years, and too often we hear from program grads five to fifteen years on who say that when they were fresh program leavers or grads they either thought what they went through was okay when it wasn't or they were still too scared to talk about everything that happened.
Because of that phenomenon, those of us outside the program inmate/parent/owner/staff world have to give more weight to the accounts of people who left the program several years ago than to the accounts of people who left the program less than a year ago.
It's a bit like talking to someone fresh out of Scientology, the Unification Church, or TM.I believe that human beings arrive on this Earth wanting to know absolutely everything, and the best thing we can do as parents is to get out of the way -- just be there to let them know what opportunities are there"
-- Dorothy Werner, media liaison for the National Homeschool Association
Okay, everyone wanted a grad to share something and now you don't care to hear or acknowledge it unless he's been home for 5 years. Hey, make sure you tell him he was abused and didn't even know it. That's your M.O., right? "
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use
--Galileo Galilei
If All it takes is an infinite number of monkeys with type writers, then how come there's no Shakespeare coming out of AOL?
-- Anonymous
If you believe that people cannot be trusted to govern themselves,
then can they be trusted to govern others?
--Thomas Jefferson
On 2004-09-13 16:14:00, Anonymous wrote:
Of the news reports, they said only 4 of the 500 kids said they were being abused.
There never was a good war or a bad peace.
--Benjamin Franklin, (1773)
No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the sources of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.
P. J. O'Rourke
On 2004-09-14 17:29:00, Anonymous wrote:
let someone else watch & raise YOUR child during the teen years. so much for YOUR values.
We are a one party country. Half of them call themselves Democrats and the other half call themselves Republicans. All the good ideas come from the Libertarians.
--Hugh Downs
To say the drug war is a failure is like saying the Hindenburg was short a few fire extinguishers.
Anonymity Anonymous (http://fornits.com/anonanon)
Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps.
On 2004-10-05 10:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
A girl w/ a dislocated shoulder was laughed at and told to stop whining. Not even tylinol was given. do you want that for your child? I say shut down the "RIDGE" just like "CASA"
Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded.
--Rep. Robert L. Henry, TX December 22, 1914 (quoting Lincoln)
On 2005-01-18 21:54:00, Anonymous wrote:
"why all of the foul language?"
On 2003-09-17 18:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Thats right, this guy did work at cas aby the sea in 2000-2001! I have heard about jason finlinson, he was the guy who beat a couple kids at casa by the sea. people also heard about a girl that got raped at ivy ridge acadmey. Jason finlinson seems to beat alot of teens wherever he goes. "
The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
--John Adams, U.S. President
On 2005-06-07 18:39:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Quote
On 2003-09-17 18:19:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Thats right, this guy did work at cas aby the sea in 2000-2001! I have heard about jason finlinson, he was the guy who beat a couple kids at casa by the sea. people also heard about a girl that got raped at ivy ridge acadmey. Jason finlinson seems to beat alot of teens wherever he goes. "
I have worked at AIR since almost since the place has opened I have NEVER, and I repeat NEVER seen Jason Finlinson beat any student!!! I think that it's time that you all just admit that you made all this stuff up just to get attention from whom ever your seeking it from. Do you people understand how many allegations have been made and how many times the State Police have been to the facility and every single time the allegations are unfounded!!! I think it's time to just leave Ivy Ridge alone. You all said how much you couldn't stand the place but you seem to think about it an awful lot!!! GET A LIFE!!!"