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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: wdtony on February 24, 2010, 01:31:31 AM
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Why not ...one last time...tell the people at Harpo to do a show on the troubled teen industry?
It was brought to my attention that several program survivors have already submitted this idea to the Oprah show so I sent one in and thought this might be a good collaborative effort.
Here's the link if you want to submit a story:
http://www.oprah.com/ownshow/plug_form. ... id=3749665 (http://www.oprah.com/ownshow/plug_form.html?plug_id=3749665)
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I like your enthusiasm but not your chances. Oprah loves kids gone bad stories!
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Oprah is a program supporter through and through... let us know how "your" idea flew :soapbox:
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I really need to express how I believe everyone no matter which school or bootcamp or placement center you were in, it is important to try at least to be heard. We are all starting out not having our issues and voices heard, so what would it hurt to at least contact Oprah and trying, all we can be told is NO. Ginger and Mike, I would hope you two would try as well, you both have had this forum for years. You have taken the time to group together many people from many walks of life that were effected by places. You have awesome knowledge and I encourage you both to reconize the amount of dedication you have given to us all. Che I would also hope you having all the knowledge you have that you could also contact these people, yes I know your like in China but you could guide this to the proper people as well. Mark, Matt, Fran, Joel, Felice, Danny I hope you all took the time to at least give it a whirl as well. hell what is the worst we can be told...that we all are fucken crazy...ummmmm we hear that daily so why stop.
I don't know you bossybee, but I like your spirit. (:
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Che I would also hope you having all the knowledge you have that you could also contact these people, yes I know your like in China but you could guide this to the proper people as well.
My email to Oprah:
I herd u liek mudkipz?
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trying to teach an old dog new tricks?
you can have spirit all you want but Oprah loves the program!!
"The gods had condemned Sisyphus to ceaselessly rolling a rock to the top of a mountain, whence the stone would fall back of its own weight. They had thought with some reason that there is no more dreadful punishment than futile and hopeless labor.
Albert Camus"
I've often experienced and thought how futile it is to convert a "get sober zealot", LOL... oh well. good luck again. RG
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Oprah loves the program
What program are you talking about?
TTI programs in general. She's a big fan of shipping kids off to strangers to have them "fixed". Same as her pal "Dr." Phil.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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joel ive never seen an oprah when she has sent a kid to one of these places but it is because of her that dr phil is where he is and all you need to do is go to his website and type aspen education and it will come up with a list of shows he has done on it. Wilderness is his favourite for obnoxious boys but he also likes slutty/runaway girl shows and they get sent to places like youth care (brendan blum's killers) and copper canyon (wwasp spinoff) he also once sent a pretty severely disturbed girl to provo canyon.The only thing he did do was criticise some parents for sending their kid to wwasp but even then he was still to pussy to name them outright.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Thanks Joel,
When I heard of the idea, sent to me from a friend, several program survivors had already submitted e-mails to the Oprah people. I just posted it here to possibly gather momentum. I have sent e-mails to all types of media with little response in the past 2 years, with absolutely no response from Oprah. It hasn't been a big surprise, but it's always worth giving it another try. It doesn't cost anything.
I never meant to imply that this was a "probable" idea but I do think it is worth spending 2 minutes doing. Mainly because certain criteria have changed over time and it is possible that if 100 of us (random number) send this idea in, maybe the screeners at Harpo industries might take notice.
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http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 15,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1680715,00.html)
She should interview some of the survivors of this program, I bet they'd love to met her.
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I want Oprah to do a show about women who accept cocaine for sex. Also, the cocaine was snorted out of his butt-crack. It smelled funny, not sure why though.
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She should interview some of the survivors of this program, I bet they'd love to met her.
I don't believe that article is in our DB yet (although the issues were certainly addressed at the time, lol). Here it is, for posterity's sake:
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TIME
Oprah Scandal Rocks South Africa (http://http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1680715,00.html)
By Alex Perry/Cape Town
Monday, Nov. 05, 2007
(http://http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0711/oprah_winfrey_1105.jpg)
Oprah Winfrey listens to a question during a video news conference about a former employee of her Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa who has been brought up on charges of abuse and sexual assault.
AP
South Africa was forced to confront its hidden plague of sexual abuse on Monday after the full scale of a scandal at a school set up for disadvantaged girls by talk show host Oprah Winfrey was revealed.
At a bail hearing in Johannesburg, dormitory matron Tiny Virginia Makopo, 27, was charged with 13 separate counts of abuse, including indecent assault and criminal injury committed against at least six students aged 13 to 15 and a 23-year-old at the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls, at Henley-on-Klip outside Johannesburg. The school was established on Jan. 2 at a cost of $40 million and opened by Winfrey in a ceremony watched by Nelson Mandela, Spike Lee and Tina Turner. Winfrey personally picked the 152 students, who study and live there free of charge. Makopo, who was not asked to enter a formal plea, said she was innocent when the charges were read. The magistrate freed her on a bond of $450.
The case has prompted some introspection in South Africa. "The abuse scandal that has rocked Oprah Winfrey's South African school for girls does not reflect badly on the famous talk show host," wrote The Times, a Johannesburg newspaper, in an editorial. "It reflects badly on this nation." Sexual abuse of women and children has reached "alarming proportions" in South Africa, it said, "and it should not be surprising that it manifested itself in Oprah's school... Oprah should not be condemned for allegations made against this matron. She should be praised for her decision to aggressively deal" with it. South Africa has some of the highest incidences of child and baby rape in the world. Many children are brutalized so often that they are desensitized to the abuse being a crime. A 2002 survey by the Community of Information, Empowerment and Transparency (CIET), an international group of epidemiologists and social scientists, found 60% of both boys and girls surveyed thought it was not violence to force sex upon someone they knew, while around 11% of boys and 4% of girls admitted to forcing someone else to have sex with them.
Winfrey traveled to South Africa in Oct. 13 to investigate the allegations involving her school, aided by a team of private detectives. The school announced on Oct. 17 that a dormitory matron had been suspended over accusations of serious misconduct. It also reported the allegations to the police.
Hours after the bail hearing, Winfrey addressed a press conference on South African television via satellite link from her studio in Chicago in which she spoke about the incidence of sexual abuse in South Africa. A woman is raped every 40 seconds in this country of 44 million — a total of 55,000 rapes a year. Given those figures, said Winfrey, the school had measures in place to keep abusers out, but they had proved insufficient. Sexual abuse often "happens right in the family, [at the hands of] people they know and trust," she said, "and this was also the alleged case here." Though she said she was not responsible for hiring at the school, Winfrey said "the buck always stops with me."
"It has shaken me to my core," added Winfrey. "This has been one of the most devastating, if not the most devastating, experiences of my life... As with all such experiences, there is always something to be gained, something to be learned. At the core of me is a belief that all things happen for a reason no matter the devastation, and this too shall pass." All dorm matrons at the school had been dismissed, said Winfrey. "When I told them the dorm matrons had been removed, the girls cheered and wept, they were so happy," she added, urging the abused girls, who were receiving counseling, "to take your voices back." "What I know is is that no one — not the accused nor any persons — can destroy the dream that I have held and the dream that each girl continues to hold for herself at the school," Winfrey said. "I am prepared to do whatever is necessary to make sure that the Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls becomes a safe and nurturing and enriched setting that I have envisioned, a place capable of fostering a full measure of these girls' productivity, creativity and of their humanity."
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