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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: MelissaR on September 09, 2003, 05:19:00 PM
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A boy by the name of Adam Wolfe recently passed away, he was in my family. (Dream) He graduated like 13 days before he died and took some drugs that put him into a coma. His family ended up pulling the plug on him because there was no hope. I'll let you guys comment on this before I say anything more. Maybe some of you have heard about this but it's been pretty hush-hush, limited to the BBS....there is more though...
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Melissa, I'm so sorry to hear about this. Please tell what you want to and what you think is prudent. Please pass on my condolances to his family if you know them along with my sincere apologies for taking 18 god damned years to put it together that the Program was spreading, not self eliminating due to stupidity.
If there's a worse idea going than locking people up for drug use, it's probably locking them up in close proximity to some tyranical altruist who wants to 'help' them with a problem that probably doesn't exist
-- Ginger Warbis
having had about all the help I can stand!
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how awful. and all the messages (yes, for some damn reason i'm still on their email mailing list) they send about saving a child's life. sick. makes me sick. that poor kid.
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By all means, tell me more.
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Melissa,
this is awful, how was he doing in the program - did he go along with it or resist? How old was he and where was he from.
I believe that sometimes kids that pass through programs ddefinately have experiences they want to forget. Do the parents still support the program?
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Scram Jeff
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It took him forever to get through the program, his mom is seriously delusional and brainwashed, he was forced to stay past 18, due to a horrific exit plan.... pretty much he did the absolute least bit necessary to get the hell out of there. He wasn't a troublemaker or resistant, he just didn't really care a whole lot. I think he thought he would have a decent exit plan, but he got screwed at the last minute. Damn family rep. Cammy Shaw.... nicest lady ever, seemingly, but also incredibly manipulative. :sad:
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The Exit plan seems to have caused many to be in as hopeless situation as possible... the requirement is not to stay off drugs and stay in school to get back with your family --NO it is contingent on you going back and graduating the program..
Totally cut off from your family and in hopelessness if they decide to escape what they may consider a hellish total control enviroment when they reach 18. I guess what does the program care they seem to just want the kid back ($$$) even if they've been held for years without getting with the program. If something isn't working within 4-6 months you think you'd reconsider if this is the right place for your child- professionals may even advise you to re- consider.
could be the birth of the exit plan.. the Dept. of State became aware of the use of fake court orders to hold those past 18 and told the program not to accept them from parents anymore (like parents thought of creating them on their own?) so they come up with a new way to control those approaching the age of majority with the exit plan. Sad thing is for some it has separated families maybe for life and it seems that the parents are as big of losers in all of this as the kids....yet what does it cost the program?
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There are many ways to kill a person. There are fast ways and there are slow ways. They killed him the slow way and they get to call it a suicide.
Its murder... They killed him. If you manipulate and torture a person, particularly a "minor" to the point where they see death as the only option then that is murder. Essentially they pursued a course of manipulation and abuse that destabilized him to the point where "suicide" or other self-destructive acts were inevitable. They held him prisoner and they pushed him to self-distruct.
Its murder.
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When are the facts of this suicide going to be disclosed?
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principalites and powers of the air use some flesh to bring despair and chaos, fear, abandonment, rejection, unbelief, abuse, unforgivness, pride, sickness, idol and occult worship, hopelessness, lust, love of money, and anything thing else that works to pull you away from the truth and the love of the Father -that is the primary goal..the evilness is just a means to that end.
most do not know how to protect themselves from such attacks of the prowling enemy..some make a choice to entertain him.
My battle is definately NOT against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers of the air...my hope is that all who are used by the enemy to abuse children and separate families will see the truth and that the hearts of the fathers will be turned again to the sons!
Justice is coming/needed but vengence is mine says the Lord.
The Fathers heart is definately for the children.
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Anon,
AMEN!
AMEN!
AMEN!
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Teen Help activities touched off investigations by law enforcement or regulatory agencies in several states -- including Utah, South Carolina and Ohio -- and three foreign countries -- Mexico, the Czech Republic and Western Samoa. Facilities in Utah, Mexico and the Czech Republic were closed:
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Still waiting for those details, Melissa.
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I said scram, you scoundrel. Jeff, I'm not saying anything to you. I've got one word for you...PURE!
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I sent you a private message about that. Didn't you get it?
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No I did not
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In a 1999 interview with The Rocky Mountain News, however, Kay, who at that time had left the Wwasps organization, criticized its programs and staff. The staff was "a bunch of untrained people," he said, according to the newspaper. "They don't have credentials of any kind."
"We could be leading these kids to long-term problems that we don't have a clue about because we're not going about it in the proper way," he said. "How in the hell can you call yourself a behavior-modification program -- and that's one of the ways it's marketed -- when nobody has the experience to determine: Is this good, is this bad?"
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Melissa R, E-mail me privately at Jeff_Berryman@excite.com
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KIDS THAT HAVE DIED IN WWASPS "TREATMENT"
Katherine Lank, 16
Red Rock Canyon School
January 13, 2002
Valerie Ann Heron, 17
Tranquility Bay, Jamaica
August 10, 2001
Corey William Murphy, 17
* Spring Creek Lodge
March 21, 2000
Christopher Landre, 16
* Paradise Cove
June 12, 1997
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That information is incorrect... make sure you know the facts before you spread rumors. The first school is not even in WWASP, and the SCL death is incorrect.... that was not the boys name who died, and that story had nothing to do with WWASP, honestly.
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On 2003-09-09 14:19:00, MelissaR wrote:
"A boy by the name of Adam Wolfe recently passed away, he was in my family. (Dream) He graduated like 13 days before he died and took some drugs that put him into a coma. His family ended up pulling the plug on him because there was no hope. I'll let you guys comment on this before I say anything more. Maybe some of you have heard about this but it's been pretty hush-hush, limited to the BBS....there is more though..."
Hi Melissa, since you are the one who posted this, would it be fair to assume this boy died of an accidental drug overdose? What a terrible tragedy. I hope his family and friends are doing okay.
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Wasn't Adam one of the over 18 year olds that chose to stay to graduate? He went to a party and it was found that his soft drink had been laced with a high amount of a psychotropic drug? What a horrible tragedy.
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Yep, that's him
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:skull: :eek: