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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 30, 2009, 12:02:41 PM
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Then and now:
(http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2782031882_4113c41184.jpg)
then, and Rachel now:
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01533/uchitel2_1533401c.jpg
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I guess she made it! I wonder if she's using her truth?
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whoops, this is the now picture
(http://http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01533/uchitel2_1533401c.jpg) or you can just google her! I mean... the tabloids are already rushing to judgement: http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12112 (http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12112) http://http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/12112 Now I'm gonna feel bad for her, but I feel worse knowing she went through cedu.
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can it be confirmed that she actually went to CEDU? which one ?
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Rachel Uchitel DEFINITELY went to Cedu. If one searched hard enough, they could finds pick of her on flickr.
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Rachel went to Cedu in California. She's mentioned in other fornits posts. ITs all over facebook, but she just deleted all her Cedu 'friends'
Its not a secret, or maybe now it is, but it wasnt before. She's in a lot of cedu pics that are posted on the web like I posted before.
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anyway the reason I posted isnt to hurt Rachel. It's because she's famous and she went to cedu, and I hope she publicizes what a shit hole the place was and maybe helps get a class action going. At least she could bring some attention to it by talking about it or not hiding it.
:seg2: :cheers:
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then and now
(http://http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3115/2782031882_4113c41184.jpg)
(http://http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/Rachel_Uchitel_Tiger_Woods.jpg)
then and now
(http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/brodonium/2781174871/sizes/o/in/set-72157606877003943/)
http://www.dailyworldbuzz.com/latest-ra ... oods/3522/ (http://www.dailyworldbuzz.com/latest-rachel-uchitel-pictures-rumored-affair-with-tiger-woods/3522/)
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Does anyone know what years Rachel Uchitel went to cedu?
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She graduated in 1991
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•> Someone posted a list of names for whom they have pics of. Her name was among that list:
PICS AVAIL 91-93
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13235 (http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=13235)[/list]
•> CEDU is also mentioned in the comments for this article:
http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/pri ... -diva/3300 (http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/prime-mover-rachel-uchitel-vip-diva/3300)
•> But the clincher is here:
http://names.allhighschools.com/alumni- ... tel/800406 (http://names.allhighschools.com/alumni-search/cedu-high-school/rachel-uchitel/800406)
First Name: Rachel Last Name: Uchitel
Gender: Graduation Year: 1991
Location: Running Springs, CA
High School: Cedu High School - RUNNING SPRINGS, CA
What I'm Doing Now:
Favorite Movies:
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You can post comments at her 'blackbook' article.
http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/ind ... iffin/7524 (http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/industry-insider-peek-at-griffin/7524)
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I hope with all this coming out Rachel might be able to use it to bring down everyone involved with Cedu. I'm sorry her private life from 20 years ago is being used. But all the evilness of Cedu and places like it should be brought down and she might just be the one to do it. I got the in January of 92, so I just missed her but wish I could have known her while I was there.
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I hope with all this coming out Rachel might be able to use it to bring down everyone involved with Cedu. I'm sorry her private life from 20 years ago is being used. But all the evilness of Cedu and places like it should be brought down and she might just be the one to do it. I got the in January of 92, so I just missed her but wish I could have known her while I was there.
I agree I'm sorry all our lives were used! She's a celeb now and should use her fame for good.
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I hope with all this coming out Rachel might be able to use it to bring down everyone involved with Cedu. I'm sorry her private life from 20 years ago is being used. But all the evilness of Cedu and places like it should be brought down and she might just be the one to do it. I got the in January of 92, so I just missed her but wish I could have known her while I was there.
I agree I'm sorry all our lives were used! She's a celeb now and should use her fame for good.
one of the most horrible things about being in a cedu-like school for me was the lack of personal boundaries, mental privacy.
maybe it's just because i went through that but I find all kinds of "outing" people tasteless. just because someone's famous and has had experiences like your own doesn't mean they're beholden to your agenda.
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I knew Rachel Uchitel at Cedu - and she was quite the bitch back then. Rachel
was an NH student when I arrived at Cedu, and she made life miserable for
people like me. Power tripping older student, look good, total sell out, and
Guy Bonnano's personal pet (they were sickeningly fond of one another), and
was one of the most conceited people I ever met. She was about as Cedufied
as one could get, very arrogent, very snobby, she always "knew best",
and we all were supposed to "listen to her". She sucked up to staff big time,
especially Guy B., and could often be found sitting on his lap. Heaven forbid
you had any sort of disagreement with Rachel, she'd run to staff (usually Guy)
and you'd end up on restrictions, work details,& dishes for the next week -
NO JOKE! I know this because it happened to me at least 1/2 a dozen times!
Seriously, what a bitch!
Despite the "holier than thou" front she put up, I always suspected that Rachel
was really a tramp at heart. The fact that she's made her livelihood from fucking
married celebrities doesn't surprise me one bit. She deserves all the scrutiny
these tabloids are giving her, that and a whole lot more.
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I hope with all this coming out Rachel might be able to use it to bring down everyone involved with Cedu.
You're kidding, right?
Castle's reasons against celebrity poster children:
1. Nobody cares
2. Why should someone be noticed for some obscure duck farm that they went to 20 years ago? Would you?
3. Look at the "famous" people who we know are alum. Rachel (slutty media whore and a mistress), Joe Francis (slutty media whore with a rape conviction) Paris Hilton (slutty media whore all around). Do any of these people look like the type who would give a shit? Fuck, I doubt they even remember they were there. I doubt they remember what they did last Wednesday.
4. Not only do I not care if they ever breathe the word "CEDU", I don't care if they ever breathe again. The only reason I find value in their existence is as a constant reminder why being famous is a total suckfest.
5. CEtards who approach these subhumans in an attempt to find common ground with them are only making themselves look just as bad. All three of these guys are beneath contempt, and I don't care where the fuck they went to school.
6. If you want a poster child so bad, do it yourself.
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I hope with all this coming out Rachel might be able to use it to bring down everyone involved with Cedu. I'm sorry her private life from 20 years ago is being used. But all the evilness of Cedu and places like it should be brought down and she might just be the one to do it. I got the in January of 92, so I just missed her but wish I could have known her while I was there.
If you're the same Matt who split with Leslie B., then I knew you, and believe me when I say you are much better off having NOT known Rachel Uchitel - In fact you would have hated that bitch as much as I did! Rachel fully embraced the "evilness of Cedu" as you put it- and even worse, she actively participated in it.
I think TAC summed things up nicely concerning "cedu celebrities" in his response to you - but I just want to add that Rachel Uchitel isn't going to stick her neck out for cedu victims or anybody else for that matter, she's not the type.
Self-Centered, Greedy, Conceited, Dishonest, Manipulative, always looking to exploit
every situation to own benefit regardless of who she hurts in the process - this is what
the Rachel Uchitel I remember was all about. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that
Rachel blackmailed Tiger Woods for keeping her mouth shut about their affair - In
fact, this is what I would've expected from her. I know some people reading this may
find my words about Rachel to be harsh - but please remember that I knew the bitch,
and my observations concerning Rachel's character are based on my own personal
experience(s) with her. My opinion of Rachel Uchitel is well informed - be sure of that!
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I'm sure I sound bourgeois (and f*ck you if you think so), but I really don't understand how women (or men) go for married people with families. I don't care how rich or charismatic they are - it's a crappy thing to do...
And to go further and flaunt the texts, pictures, and other evidence? I would feel so ashamed if I were in there shoes. The last thing I would do is broadcast it. Don't they think of the children involved?
To me, it's a blight on self respect and also, the irreparable cost of the children's well being.
I would never want that on my conscious.
At any rate, Uchitel's behavior certainly doesn't argue well on behalf of Cedu's all important, "Brother's Keeper." Or is it Values? Add the sh- to NY "It" Girl and thats sounds about right.
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I hope with all this coming out Rachel might be able to use it to bring down everyone involved with Cedu.
You're kidding, right?
Castle's reasons against celebrity poster children:
1. Nobody cares
2. Why should someone be noticed for some obscure duck farm that they went to 20 years ago? Would you?
CEDU is no less an obscure duck farm than Bergen-Belsen, and no less a worthy subject of civic investigation.
Reading up on Rachael…seems she works PR for a night club/ may / may not have had sex with Tiger Woods. Wouldnt think she’s a ‘celebrity’ enough to attract attention. (Still, anyone interested in reaching out to her for help though, go for it. Though it seems, she drank the koolaid and became something of a wash out?)
Jackie Danforth (sp.?) outing Mommy Dearest (Barbara Walters) for butchering her with a prison- cult would be something.
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You're kidding, right?
CEDU is no less an obscure duck farm than Bergen-Belsen, and no less a worthy subject of civic investigation.
Reading up on Rachael…seems she works PR for a night club/ may / may not have had sex with Tiger Woods. Wouldnt think she’s a ‘celebrity’ enough to attract attention. (Still, anyone interested in reaching out to her for help though, go for it. Though it seems, she drank the koolaid and became something of a wash out?)
Jackie Danforth (sp.?) outing Mommy Dearest (Barbara Walters) for butchering her with a prison- cult would be something.
In the summer of 1984, Jackie ran away from home and for a month Walters did not know
where her 15-year-old daughter was. When Jackie was found Walters made the difficult
decision to send her daughter to an alternative school for troubled teens in Idaho.
Danforth stayed in the program for three years and credits the program with saving her
life.
Today, Danforth has come full circle. After meeting and marrying wilderness guide Mark
Danforth, she opened a camp in northern Maine called "New Horizons." At a recent visit
to the camp she told Pauley she feels her own experiences help her get through to
teenage girls at risk. "These girls obviously are doing the same things that I did. So
when some of the girls act out, try to run, and things like that, which is very
normal, typical, I have a better understanding of what my Mom went through."
These days, Danforth's life is focussed on other people's daughters, troubled
teenagers like she used to be, but she has made the decision not to have children of
her own. As for Walters, "She wants grandchildren bad," Danforth tells Pauley. "She
loves kids. My mom is the most nurturing person in the world."
After the show, you can log on to our Web site at http://www.Dateline.MSNBC.com (http://www.Dateline.MSNBC.com) to
learn more about Danforth's wilderness program, New Horizons.
http://www.mail-archive.com/dateline@li ... 00041.html (http://www.mail-archive.com/dateline@lists.msnbc.com/msg00041.html)
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...In the summer of 1984, Jackie ran away from home and for a month Walters did not know
where her 15-year-old daughter was. When Jackie was found Walters made the difficult
decision to send her daughter to an alternative school for troubled teens in Idaho.
Danforth stayed in the program for three years and credits the program with saving her
life. ...
This was actually an interview with both Jackie and her mother, Barbara Walters, conducted by Jane Pauley. It starts out as follows:
"Tonight Barbara Walters returns to NBC for an exclusive interview with "Dateline
NBC's" Jane Pauley. Walters and daughter Jackie Danforth talk for the first time about Jackie's troubled childhood, and how Jackie has put her past to use helping another generation of teens."[/list]
Date of that broadcast:
Coming up on Dateline Friday (http://http://www.mail-archive.com/dateline@lists.msnbc.com/msg00041.html)
Dateline NBC
Fri, 18 Oct 2002[/list]
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Looks like Rachel's five minutes of fame are about up. I don't understand why a woman would want to look so pug-ugly, inflating her lips until they look like Julio Cesar Chavez used her face for a punching bag.
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Danforth probably can't do much else besides suck the bucks from some parents...Nice going Barbara...
I remember when another celebrity, Angela Lansbury, found herself with a couple of "troubled" kids she and her husband put their careers on hold, moved to Ireland and spent time with them, getting the whole family on track. I always thought that was pretty cool AND her kids have real jobs today.
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CEDU is no less an obscure duck farm than Bergen-Belsen.
:roflmao: :roflmao:
that's a pretty good troll! LOL. Good luck with that one.
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Question: What's the difference between Tiger Woods & Santa Claus?
Answer: Santa Claus stops after he does three Ho's! ;D
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I graduated in the same class as Rachel. We were good friends. I have not seen her in many years... we do still have contact on facebook. Its sad to see her now. I almost can't recognize her after all the horrible plastic surgery. I know her issues with her non existent 'father figure' in life. We all cope in different ways, clearly she is fulfilling her void by the belief that being a 'sex object' will give her that fulfillment. Beyond all the ridiculous try-hard sexy stuff, of course there lies a deep insecurity. It's a shame she has bought all the modern day bullshit and gone down the path she has. She is looking older than her years and trying way too hard. I hope she works her self out. Its a lonely path she taking at the end of the day.
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I know her issues with her non existent 'father figure' in life.
Well this would certainly explain Rachel's unhealthy fixation on Guy Bonnano during her Cedu years and their sickening fondness for one another. Guy was Rachel's "daddy" at Cedu, that's for sure.
I remember the way Rachel would jump up and run to Guy whenever he entered the room.
It was not unlike the way my 5 year old son runs to front door when I come from work, shouting "DADDY's Home!", and giving me a big hug & kisses. That's a pretty normal
interaction between a 5 year old and their parent - but it's really disturbing when you're watching 16 year old interact the same way with a much older man who isn't even related
to her. Rachel would shout "Guy's here!" or "Guys back!"- well at least she didn't call him
"Daddy" in public - but the big enthusiastic hugs and kisses were all there. Later, more
often than not, you'd find Rachel sitting on Guy's lap - was he telling her bed time stories?
Did they talk about the first that came up (in Guy's pants)? Who knows? I never listened
to their conversations - just seeing them together was gross enough.
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I think what everybody seems to be forgetting here is that Rachel was as much a victim of Cedu as any of us were. Just because a student there bought into the Cedu religion hook, line, and sinker, doesn't mean that they weren't also a victim.
In fact, they were MORE SO a victim, and their struggles after CEDU coming to terms with "WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED THERE TO ME?" must have been much, much wors those of us who were able to hold a secret place inside us where we knew it was all b.s., and that we were just playing the game so we could get back home and do our time as smoothly as possible.
Rachel had terrible issues with her father, and Guy simply took advantage of it. Remember- HE WAS THE ADULT. SHE WAS JUST A CHILD.
Obviously, she still hasn't sorted it all out, but I don't hate or feel any animosity to her for it. Yeah...she "blew me away" a few times there...I could care less nowadays. Even today, she's still a victim of CEDU, because bottom line- SHE DIDN'T GET THE HELP SHE SHOULD HAVE AS A damaged teenager. Rather, they REINFORCED the concepts of looking to damaged older men. In Rachel's, mind, she must still think as a child, to be going with all these rotten men. She just needs some help....and I'm sorry she never got it. I don't want to tear her down...as CEDU would have taught us to do. Rather, I'd just tell her- sorry, you've had such a rough go. We all have. Hope you can figure it all out.
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Some good points CiC.
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If you take a look at her Bio she seems to have done very well since she left CEDU. She weathered losing her fiancé on 9/11in the WTC attacks and then went on to became a nightclub manager and event planner in New York City. I am not familiar with CEDU but her time there apparently turned her around and set her on a good path and obviously she turned into a strong woman based on how she is handling all of this controversy.
Tiger Woods. Although never had the benefit (or the need of a program), is the one who is struggling through all of this.
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Tiger Woods. Although never had the benefit (or the need of a program), is the one who is struggling through all of this.
:dose: :dose: :dose: The last I heard he was in some 12-Stepping program for sex addicts.
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Tiger Woods. Although never had the benefit (or the need of a program), is the one who is struggling through all of this.
:dose: :dose: :dose: The last I heard he was in some 12-Stepping program for sex addicts.
Ha,Ha,Ha good point. Maybe they were all drawn to the dangerous lifestyles and have much in common.
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If you take a look at her Bio she seems to have done very well since she left CEDU. She weathered losing her fiancé on 9/11in the WTC attacks and then went on to became a nightclub manager and event planner in New York City. I am not familiar with CEDU but her time there apparently turned her around and set her on a good path and obviously she turned into a strong woman based on how she is handling all of this controversy.
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Strong Woman? Doing well?
Is that why Rachel keeps fucking married men? If you've read her bio whooter,
you'd know that Tiger Woods isn't the first.
Of course, there is all the money she's making - rumor has it that Tiger Woods
people paid Rachel several million to keep her mouth shut. Plenty of money for
Rachel's lip injections, boob jobs, plastic surgery, and that sort of thing (she's
already had quite a bit of work done). She fucks a rich married man, takes his
money, it's a business thing, probably not the first time, anyone care to speculate
on what that makes Rachel?
Whooter suggests that Rachel is "a strong woman" who is "doing well". Me, I say
Rachel's a whore, a very expensive whore, but still a whore nontheless. Although
Whooter may be partially correct if by saying "doing well" - he meant that Rachel
was doing well at being a whore (damn well actually).
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I was at the hotel lounge yesterday and Rachel Uchitel was on TMZ. I understand her appeal. ... but I could tell she feels like a victim and kept saying that no one knows what her relationship was like with these men and no one should judge... but I do judge. I could give a hoot what some one does with their personal lives as long as they don't f*ck with families. I just don't get that - for any amount of money or validation. It's the same with all the other mistresses going public for payment. Don't say you feel guilty. You don't. Or you wouldn't have done it. It doesn't matter if "his wife doesn't understand him" or they are "going through a difficult time", you just don't do it. ESPECIALLY if there are kids. If I know a guy is married, there is a little switch that goes off in my brain that says: No. I don't even entertain the idea. It is that simple. I think women who would do this to families for any reason are complete douchebags... I don't get why these women are suing these married men for cash either. They claim to be misled. I don't care what kind of BS promises the guy made, if he is married, shut up and go home. You can't put a cash value on personal integrity. You have to be heartless to particpate in something that would undermine the safety and stability of a family... of young kids.
One of my friends told she is having feelings for a married guy who is unhappy. And she finally told they been hooking up. I tolds her I don't want to hear it. I think you are acting like a total shit for some ass who doesn't care about you so go complain somewhere else. I don't believe in situational ethics where its not okay for someone else to do it, but for you? No problemo. Incidentally, her husband had an affair that spanned years, had a child with as mistress and left her. Of course, now he is on #3. So, having been through the pain herself, I do not understand visiting it upon someone else.
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So I saw a part of Celeb Rehab last night b/c ex Cedu-ite Rachel was on. There is one part where the family joins and her mother sent a letter to be read aloud. It talked about the shiny ball that was once clean and pure and then got dinged and dirtied - STRAIGHT out of the Truth propheet. This story was harmless out of context, but really sent chills down my spine knowing the context we imposed on us at CEDU. Creepy. Obviously, her family still buys in all that BS to take a scenario straight out of the propheet... It was a bit unnerving for some reason. CEDU on Celeb Rehab. How appropriate.
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Walters did not Defame Daughter's School Pal (Courthouse News Service) (http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/12/26/53425.htm)
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So I saw a part of Celeb Rehab last night b/c ex Cedu-ite Rachel was on. There is one part where the family joins and her mother sent a letter to be read aloud. It talked about the shiny ball that was once clean and pure and then got dinged and dirtied - STRAIGHT out of the Truth propheet. This story was harmless out of context, but really sent chills down my spine knowing the context we imposed on us at CEDU. Creepy. Obviously, her family still buys in all that BS to take a scenario straight out of the propheet... It was a bit unnerving for some reason. CEDU on Celeb Rehab. How appropriate.
Caroline Wolf ran my truth propheet and can shove that chrome ball exercise up her ass. She was one of the most manipulative and sadistic staff at RMA.
Caroline Wolf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga0nQpXa61w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga0nQpXa61w) - This video hit the nail on the head