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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Aspen Education Group => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 01, 2009, 03:48:56 AM
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An economic recession or other adverse economic conditions, such as inflation, may have a material adverse effect on our business. Substantially all of the revenue from our youth division and certain residential treatment facilities such as Sierra Tucson is derived from private-pay funding. In addition, a substantial portion of our revenue from our comprehensive treatment clinics is from self-payors. A sustained downturn in the U.S. economy could restrain the ability of our patients and the families of our students to pay for our services. In addition, some of the families of our students in our youth division rely on third-party loans, including additional home loans, to fund the cost of tuition at our programs. The unavailability of these loans could interfere with the ability of private-pay customers to afford our programs, and may harm our operating results.
Although inflation has not previously or currently had a material impact on our results of operations, our industry is very labor intensive and salaries and benefits are subject to inflationary pressures. Some of our facilities are experiencing the effects of the tight labor market, including a shortage of counselors and nurses, which has caused and may continue to cause an increase in our salaries, wages and benefits expense in excess of the inflation rate. Our ability to pass on increased costs associated with providing services to our patients, in some cases, may be limited.
Our level of indebtedness could adversely affect our ability to meet our obligations under our indebtedness, raise additional capital to fund our operations and limit our ability to react to changes in the economy or our industry.
We are highly leveraged.
Referrals of patients and relationships with physicians
The federal anti-kickback statute and related regulations prohibit certain offers, payments or receipt of remuneration in return for referring patients covered by Medicaid or other federal healthcare programs or purchasing, leasing, ordering or arranging for or recommending any services, good, item or facility for which payment may be made under a federal healthcare program. Federal physician self-referral legislation, known as the Stark Law, generally prohibits a physician from ordering certain services reimbursable by a federal healthcare program from an entity with which the physician has a financial relationship, unless an exception applies, and prohibits the entity from billing for certain services rendered pursuant to any prohibited referrals. Several of the states in which we operate have laws that are similar to the federal Stark Law and anti-kickback laws and that reach services paid for by private payors and individual patients.
If we fail to comply with the federal anti-kickback statute and its safe harbors, the Stark Law or other related state and federal laws and regulations, we could be subjected to criminal and civil penalties, we could lose our license to operate, and our residential and outpatient treatment programs could be excluded from participation in Medicaid and other federal and state healthcare programs and could be required to repay governmental payors amounts received by our residential and outpatient treatment programs for services resulting from prohibited referrals. In lieu of repayment, the OIG may impose civil monetary assessments of three times the amount of each item or service wrongfully claimed. In addition, if we do not operate our treatment facilities in accordance with applicable law, our residential and outpatient treatment programs may lose their licenses or the ability to participate in third-party reimbursement programs...
Our treatment facilities are sometimes subject to attempts by local or regional governmental authorities and local area residents to force their closure or relocation.
Property owners and local authorities have attempted, and may in the future attempt, to use or enact zoning ordinances to eliminate our ability to operate a given treatment facility. Local governmental authorities in some cases also have attempted to use litigation and the threat of prosecution to force the closure of certain of our clinics. If any of these attempts were to succeed or if their frequency were to increase, our revenue would be adversely affected and our operating results might be harmed. In addition, such actions may require us to litigate which would increase our costs.
We cannot assure you that our business will generate sufficient cash flow from operations or that future borrowings will be available to us in an amount sufficient to enable us to pay our indebtedness or to fund our other liquidity needs.
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This has always been a huge problem during economic downturns. It is extremely difficult to reopen mental health clinics in a new location because no one wants them in their neighborhood and they rally to get local government involved to put pressure on the health care provider to find another location. The same applies to drug rehabs. So trying to ride out the economic storm is most critical for these types of clinics.
Another vulnerable area that has been hard hit are the outpatient Clinics for chemotherapy which are expensive to keep open. There are many patients who cannot afford to travel into the cities for their treatment.
The good news is that the economic upturn has started and we have turned the corner so the majority of the damage is behind us. We need to start focusing on growth vs merely maintaining what we have.
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This has always been a huge problem during economic downturns. It is extremely difficult to reopen mental health clinics in a new location because no one wants them in their neighborhood and they rally to get local government involved to put pressure on the health care provider to find another location. The same applies to drug rehabs. So trying to ride out the economic storm is most critical for these types of clinics.
Another vulnerable area that has been hard hit are the outpatient Clinics for chemotherapy which are expensive to keep open. There are many patients who cannot afford to travel into the cities for their treatment.
The good news is that the economic upturn has started and we have turned the corner so the majority of the damage is behind us. We need to start focusing on growth vs merely maintaining what we have.
Oh yeah, definitely. Ignore the rest of the risk factors mentioned and the recent vintage of this report. Aspen offers more than drug rehab don't they? Considering Aspen's "reputation" and the countless hours you log as an apologist for them, why would any community not welcome the program's tough love and "great success"?
Again, from CRC's Annual Report:
If our programs are unable to maintain such licensure, certification and accreditation, our revenue may decline, our growth may be limited and our business may be harmed.
In addition, many states impose similar, and in some cases more restrictive, requirements. For example, some states impose laws governing the use and disclosure of health information pertaining to mental health and/or substance abuse issues that are more stringent than the rules that apply to healthcare information generally. As public attention is drawn to the issues of the privacy and security of medical information, states may revise or expand their laws concerning the use and disclosure of health information, or may adopt new laws addressing these subjects. Failure to comply with these laws could expose us to criminal and civil liability, as well as requiring us to restructure certain of our operations.
Why does Aspen have such a problem complying with patient privacy?
Accidents or other incidents involving the students at our youth treatment facilities, or those of our competitors, may adversely affect our revenues and operating results directly or through negative public perception of the industry.
This is unfolding as we speak with Sagewalk's reckless negligence in the death of a patient causing a public outcry. This is nothing but a self fulfilling prophecy for the shareholders.
Accidents resulting in physical injuries to our students or staff, or incidents that attract negative attention to the youth treatment industry generally, such as those involving death or criminal conduct against, or by a student could result in regulatory action against us, possible legal claims and lost referrals or student withdrawals. Similar accidents or incidents at programs operated by our competitors could negatively impact public perception of the therapeutic education industry and harm our operations as well. No assurance can be given that accidents or other incidents at our programs or those of our competitors will not adversely affect our operations.
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Competition
Treatment providers for the large and growing substance abuse treatment market are highly fragmented, with services being provided by over 13,000 different facilities of which only 26% are operated by for-profit organizations. The primary competitive factors in the substance abuse treatment industry include the quality of programs and services, charges for programs and services, geographic proximity to the patients served, brand and marketing awareness and the overall responsiveness to the needs of patients, families and payors. Our recovery division competes against an array of local competitors, both private and governmental, hospital-based and free standing and for-profit and non-profit facilities. Most of our residential facilities compete within local or regional markets. Sierra Tucson, our residential treatment facility for addiction and other behavioral disorders, in contrast, competes in both national and international markets with other nationally known substance abuse treatment facilities such as the Betty Ford Clinic and Hazelden.
Providers of youth treatment services are also highly fragmented with services being provided by over 500 different facilities. Our youth division competes with a large number of single-site businesses that lack our name recognition and management resources, as well as a handful of larger companies who have divisions that provide youth treatment programs, such as the youth programs of Universal Health Services, Second Nature and Three Springs.
13,000 substance abuse treatment programs and over 500 "different" programs. Wow, not even the GAO attempted to nail down an estimate of the number of programs in existence. That is disgusting.
The next misfortune to trouble the CRC stockholders will be the PA Juvie scandal, bets are being placed on whether Aspen is going to be at the top of the list of fools. John D. Reuben might have to drive into Allentown for police questioning about the nature of his activities regarding STICC and Aspen.
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Why does Aspen have such a problem complying with patient privacy?
The problem, as I see it, from a business perspective, is that there is one set of rules for general healthcare and another set for mental health and substance info. On top of that the rules vary from state to state and if they dont manage this properly they could leave themselves exposed to lawsuits. These lawsuits would require them to restructure which is expensive. The challenge is to create a cost effective way to meet all the requirements or create just one (a more restrictive program) which would satisfy all requirements from all states.
This is unfolding as we speak with Sagewalk's reckless negligence in the death of a patient causing a public outcry. This is nothing but a self fulfilling prophecy for the shareholders.
Exactly. Their revenue can be affected by a non Aspen program accidents also. This can affect the perception of the entire industry not just SageWalk. This is why the industry themselves is concerned with the bad apples and take each incident very seriously.
13,000 substance abuse treatment programs and over 500 "different" programs. Wow, not even the GAO attempted to nail down an estimate of the number of programs in existence. That is disgusting.
I think this gives us all an idea of how many people are presently getting treatment.
The next misfortune to trouble the CRC stockholders will be the PA Juvie scandal, bets are being placed on whether Aspen is going to be at the top of the list of fools. John D. Reuben might have to drive into Allentown for police questioning about the nature of his activities regarding STICC and Aspen.
Whether an Aspen program or not, any scandals will have a negative impact on the industry. As far as it affecting Rueben, I dont see how it would unless he is involved. I am not very familiar with the PA scandal or how Reuben is tied in. Is it an Aspen program?
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Oh yeah, definitely. Ignore the rest of the risk factors mentioned and the recent vintage of this report. Aspen offers more than drug rehab don't they? Considering Aspen's "reputation" and the countless hours you log as an apologist for them, why would any community not welcome the program's tough love and "great success"?
Therapeutic programs are never a problem getting them integrated into communities. The problem is typically with the clinics which attract unsavoury people from outside the community. I don’t think you would want a drug rehab clinic established in your neighborhood, but once it is there it is difficult to get them to move unless you find violations and shut them down (which the article speaks to). Once they are shut down then the community can easily deny them a new license and force them to move elsewhere. This becomes expensive for the owners of the clinics.
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The program side of the Luzerne County situation was primarily Mid-Atlantic Youth Services Corp. No affiliation to ASPEN or to the "parent-choice" world of residential providers as far as I can tell.
It's a real stretch to try to implicate John Reuben or any of the ASPEN folks directly in this situation.
There were some unidentified wilderness and residential programs as I recall in one of the articles, that the judges may have referred kids to that they may have also received kickbacks other than those owned by MAYSC, but again there were no names named. As far as I know those programs that the judges referred kids to were in Pennyslvania, and ASPEN owns no programs in Pennsylvania.
If anyone has more info on the programs involved, please do tell.
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It's a real stretch to try to implicate John Reuben or any of the ASPEN folks directly in this situation.
Not exactly. Pennsylvania facilities provided the most revenue for Aspen.
According to CRC Health/AEG:
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For 2008, Pennsylvania facilities accounted for approximately 12.3% of our total revenue, Utah facility accounted for approximately 12.0% of our total revenue, our California facilities accounted for approximately 11.9% of our total revenue, our Arizona facilities accounted for approximately 11.6% of our total revenue, and our North Carolina facilities accounted for approximately 10.2% of our total revenue. If our treatment facilities in these states are adversely affected by changes in regulatory and economic conditions, our revenue and profitability may decline.
Someone was handing money to the Judges, not saying it was STICC or the Reuben guy, but if they come up dirty the cops should question anyone who might be involved, and Reuben moved to Philly last year, 40 mi. from Allentown.
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Therapeutic programs are never a problem getting them integrated into communities.
LOL, tell that to the small town whose citizens basically said "No. Just no." when someone tried to open up a program in their town. This had nothing to do with human rights; apparently the idea of a building full of delinquents in their neighborhood didn't sit well with them. Long story short, the bid was rejected.
But who said anything about therapeutic anything? We're talking about Aspen Education Group here.
Programs flock to where they can get away with it. Lax regulation and oversight is both a precursor to judicial abuses and program construction. So the judicial abuses and Aspen's revenue aren't directly connected, but also not entirely a coincidence. Wherever there's a local culture of child abuse being okay, that's where you'll find programs.
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Programs flock to where they can get away with it. Lax regulation and oversight is both a precursor to judicial abuses and program construction. So the judicial abuses and Aspen's revenue aren't directly connected, but also not entirely a coincidence. Wherever there's a local culture of child abuse being okay, that's where you'll find programs.
Well i say stuff a bomb up the arse of someone in charge of one and they might think twice the next time they want to open one.
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Programs flock to where they can get away with it. Lax regulation and oversight is both a precursor to judicial abuses and program construction. So the judicial abuses and Aspen's revenue aren't directly connected, but also not entirely a coincidence. Wherever there's a local culture of child abuse being okay, that's where you'll find programs.
Most businesses look for the most favorable place to establish themselves, not just programs.... low tax rate, acceptable community, ability to conduct their business with the least amount of resistence from local officials and regulations. Businesses want to have as much a free hand as possible. The town next to me voted out a plan by Walmart to build there... huge outcry and protest until they moved on. So it depends on the community. Walmart isnt all that evil of a business.
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The depths of your callousness and deflection never cease to amaze me. I hope that this shit is so tagged that anyone looking up this cold, opportunistic asshole sees him for what he is. A calculating businessman willing to exploit his own sons death to his financial advantage. How much lower can you go?
I don't think the question was ever answered as to whether or not this kid was allowed to attend his mother's funeral. Was he? What is the status of the other kid?
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The depths of your callousness and deflection never cease to amaze me. I hope that this shit is so tagged that anyone looking up this cold, opportunistic asshole sees him for what he is. A calculating businessman willing to exploit his own sons death to his financial advantage. How much lower can you go?
I don't think the question was ever answered as to whether or not this kid was allowed to attend his mother's funeral. Was he? What is the status of the other kid?
The humor in all of this is that this guy you keep beating on and his wife and kid who are dead has probably never even been here. I wrote the post you are speaking of (The evil one as you put it). The problem you are having is that you keep looking for ways to separate the industries' practices from normal business protocol and you cant, so you are frustrated and call me evil. They are a business like every other one and want to find a place which suits their needs...doesnt make them evil.
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The depths of your callousness and deflection never cease to amaze me. I hope that this shit is so tagged that anyone looking up this cold, opportunistic asshole sees him for what he is. A calculating businessman willing to exploit his own sons death to his financial advantage. How much lower can you go?
I don't think the question was ever answered as to whether or not this kid was allowed to attend his mother's funeral. Was he? What is the status of the other kid?
The humor in all of this is that this guy you keep beating on and his wife and kid who are dead has probably never even been here. I wrote the post you are speaking of (The evil one as you put it). The problem you are having is that you keep looking for ways to separate the industries' practices from normal business protocol and you cant, so you are frustrated and call me evil. They are a business like every other one and want to find a place which suits their needs...doesnt make them evil.
That you, or anyone else thinks they can 'problem solve' their way out of adolescence says a lot. You remind me of Greg Ninnear's character in Little Miss Sunshine. That loser who thinks he can "step" his way out of whatever life situation he finds himself in and then desperately trying to convince others that he has "the answer". That he's relevant at all. It's common practice for you to see kids as a commodity. Their futures to be traded. Be it you, The Who or a composite thereof, it's telling. Children are not commodities. This shouldn't be an "industry" at all and the comparisons disgust most feeling people.
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That you, or anyone else thinks they can 'problem solve' their way out of adolescence says a lot. You remind me of Greg Ninnear's character in Little Miss Sunshine. That loser who thinks he can "step" his way out of whatever life situation he finds himself in and then desperately trying to convince others that he has "the answer". That he's relevant at all. It's common practice for you to see kids as a commodity. Their futures to be traded. Be it you, The Who or a composite thereof, it's telling. Children are not commodities. This shouldn't be an "industry" at all and the comparisons disgust most feeling people.
God, I so fully agree with you. Who the hell is this asshole coming on here pushing this line of bull expecting people to buy it? People must be really stupid to fall for this line of "reasoning." If I could just have five minutes alone with this creep....
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That you, or anyone else thinks they can 'problem solve' their way out of adolescence says a lot. You remind me of Greg Ninnear's character in Little Miss Sunshine. That loser who thinks he can "step" his way out of whatever life situation he finds himself in and then desperately trying to convince others that he has "the answer". That he's relevant at all. It's common practice for you to see kids as a commodity. Their futures to be traded. Be it you, The Who or a composite thereof, it's telling. Children are not commodities. This shouldn't be an "industry" at all and the comparisons disgust most feeling people.
God, I so fully agree with you. Who the hell is this asshole coming on here pushing this line of bull expecting people to buy it? People must be really stupid to fall for this line of "reasoning." If I could just have five minutes alone with this creep....
Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to assuage your guilt. You know I hit the nail on the head.
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Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to assuage your guilt. You know I hit the nail on the head.
wtf are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, jackass. :D
The 'creep' I was referring to was the one you were getting into it with, not you.... :beat:
Use your head before you click submit, why don't ya. Sheesh. ::)
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Programs flock to where they can get away with it. Lax regulation and oversight is both a precursor to judicial abuses and program construction. So the judicial abuses and Aspen's revenue aren't directly connected, but also not entirely a coincidence. Wherever there's a local culture of child abuse being okay, that's where you'll find programs.
Most businesses look for the most favorable place to establish themselves, not just programs.... low tax rate, acceptable community, ability to conduct their business with the least amount of resistence from local officials and regulations.
You are right, and let us look at the places favored by teen RTC's like Aspen. Remote, rural counties without a lot of business willing to offer up their behinds to a player who can bring in revenue. Counties with locals who look like they would be rejected at a Deliverance remake casting call due to "satirical hyper-realness". In return for jobs and revenue, the Counties provide programs with a private police via the local Sheriff's department, lax inspections, and protection from State officials.
Pennsylvania is an example of a state suffering from chronic economic depression. Outside the major cities, PA's mountains have areas of abject poverty that resemble the most impoverished regions of the Appalachians. Poor areas will not only overlook the abuses of the program, they'll help block inquiries into the goings on.
The poster believes businesses seek out areas with "low tax rate, acceptable community, ability to conduct their business with the least amount of resistence(sic) from local officials and regulations".
When the poster says businesses pick an area with the least "resistance", he/she means areas who will overlook regulation and not enforce existing guidelines.
It's a mystery. The industry claims it strives to meet ethical and local guidelines, yet they seek out locations where the local cretins will overlook safety issues and strong arm restraint tactics. Locals will accept the program's representation of itself and parrot the party line: "Those kids are really disturbed", "You have to whip on those J.D.'s, it's all they understand", "Some kids don't make it but the program helps so may others, it is worth it".
This is the kind of blind faith from the community a program needs to operate. The locals have to be brought on board, if the program disgusts the locals they will become spies and hurt business. No program can last without the locals' complicity.
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...ASPEN owns no programs in Pennsylvania.
If anyone has more info on the programs involved, please do tell.
List of Aspen schools in PA:
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The highlighted programs make Aspen a suspect for involvement in the Luzerne County situation. Add that to their financial misery and you have the picture of a very leveraged business with a strong motive to boost revenue in what has historically been their bread winner.
No, it does not look like a stretch to tie Aspen to the corruption in PA. It is interesting that Brian didn't know Aspen had facilities in PA - I didn't either, which is why this 10 K report to the shareholders is useful. You've got the names of all programs and the status of the property, owned or leased, and the whole board of directors to run checks on until you have a $1,000 PACER bill on your hands.
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That you, or anyone else thinks they can 'problem solve' their way out of adolescence says a lot. You remind me of Greg Ninnear's character in Little Miss Sunshine. That loser who thinks he can "step" his way out of whatever life situation he finds himself in and then desperately trying to convince others that he has "the answer". That he's relevant at all. It's common practice for you to see kids as a commodity. Their futures to be traded. Be it you, The Who or a composite thereof, it's telling. Children are not commodities. This shouldn't be an "industry" at all and the comparisons disgust most feeling people.
God, I so fully agree with you. Who the hell is this asshole coming on here pushing this line of bull expecting people to buy it? People must be really stupid to fall for this line of "reasoning." If I could just have five minutes alone with this creep....
Thats a whole different issue whether or not the industry should exist or if it is relevant or not. What we were talking about is the industry complying with local rules as other businesses do and how they need to cope with the various privacy laws.
By the sound your post you seem to be the ass hole in this conversation. Stay on topic or shut TF up.
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Addendum: The PA facilities didn't post:
Cove Prep
Lancaster
New Perspectives at White Deer Run
Blue Mountain
New Directions of Cove Forge
Cove Forge Renewal Center
White Deer Run of Allentown
White Deer Run of Altoona
White Deer Run of Harrisburg
White Deer Run of Lewisburg
White Deer Run of New Castle
White Deer Run of Pottsville
White Deer Run of Williamsport
WDR of York
Cove Forge Behavioral Health System at Pittsburg
Cove Forge Behavioral Health System at Williamsburg
White Deer Run Cove Forge Manor House
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Tell yourself whatever you need to in order to assuage your guilt. You know I hit the nail on the head.
wtf are you talking about? I was agreeing with you, jackass. :D
The 'creep' I was referring to was the one you were getting into it with, not you.... :beat:
Use your head before you click submit, why don't ya. Sheesh. ::)
Hey, it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference with all the identical promotional posts lately. Sorry.
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Programs flock to where they can get away with it. Lax regulation and oversight is both a precursor to judicial abuses and program construction. So the judicial abuses and Aspen's revenue aren't directly connected, but also not entirely a coincidence. Wherever there's a local culture of child abuse being okay, that's where you'll find programs.
Most businesses look for the most favorable place to establish themselves, not just programs.... low tax rate, acceptable community, ability to conduct their business with the least amount of resistence from local officials and regulations.
You are right, and let us look at the places favored by teen RTC's like Aspen. Remote, rural counties without a lot of business willing to offer up their behinds to a player who can bring in revenue. Counties with locals who look like they would be rejected at a Deliverance remake casting call due to "satirical hyper-realness". In return for jobs and revenue, the Counties provide programs with a private police via the local Sheriff's department, lax inspections, and protection from State officials.
Pennsylvania is an example of a state suffering from chronic economic depression. Outside the major cities, PA's mountains have areas of abject poverty that resemble the most impoverished regions of the Appalachians. Poor areas will not only overlook the abuses of the program, they'll help block inquiries into the goings on.
The poster believes businesses seek out areas with "low tax rate, acceptable community, ability to conduct their business with the least amount of resistence(sic) from local officials and regulations".
When the poster says businesses pick an area with the least "resistance", he/she means areas who will overlook regulation and not enforce existing guidelines.
It's a mystery. The industry claims it strives to meet ethical and local guidelines, yet they seek out locations where the local cretins will overlook safety issues and strong arm restraint tactics. Locals will accept the program's representation of itself and parrot the party line: "Those kids are really disturbed", "You have to whip on those J.D.'s, it's all they understand", "Some kids don't make it but the program helps so may others, it is worth it".
This is the kind of blind faith from the community a program needs to operate. The locals have to be brought on board, if the program disgusts the locals they will become spies and hurt business. No program can last without the locals' complicity.
You are putting a negative spin on it, but you have the general idea. where would you want the programs to be placed? If you were selling fur coats and winter jackets would you appreciate people telling you you had to set up shop in southern Texas? or would you like to choose your own spot like Minneapolis or Pennsylvannia?
Rural areas for programs are better for many reasons. If a kid decides to run it is easier to catch up with them in rural areas. If a child ran off in the city he/she could be in more danger and harder to find. Programs need to know the local officials will support them and be able to respond, they need to know they have a labor pool to draw from etc... its not just finding a place where they can abuse kids, no place like this exists.
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...ASPEN owns no programs in Pennsylvania.
If anyone has more info on the programs involved, please do tell.
List of Aspen schools in PA:
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The highlighted programs make Aspen a suspect for involvement in the Luzerne County situation. Add that to their financial misery and you have the picture of a very leveraged business with a strong motive to boost revenue in what has historically been their bread winner.
No, it does not look like a stretch to tie Aspen to the corruption in PA. It is interesting that Brian didn't know Aspen had facilities in PA - I didn't either, which is why this 10 K report to the shareholders is useful. You've got the names of all programs and the status of the property, owned or leased, and the whole board of directors to run checks on until you have a $1,000 PACER bill on your hands.
The first one I checked... "Cove Prep" isnt an Aspen School. Dropped the ball a little there.......
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That you, or anyone else thinks they can 'problem solve' their way out of adolescence says a lot. You remind me of Greg Ninnear's character in Little Miss Sunshine. That loser who thinks he can "step" his way out of whatever life situation he finds himself in and then desperately trying to convince others that he has "the answer". That he's relevant at all. It's common practice for you to see kids as a commodity. Their futures to be traded. Be it you, The Who or a composite thereof, it's telling. Children are not commodities. This shouldn't be an "industry" at all and the comparisons disgust most feeling people.
God, I so fully agree with you. Who the hell is this asshole coming on here pushing this line of bull expecting people to buy it? People must be really stupid to fall for this line of "reasoning." If I could just have five minutes alone with this creep....
Thats a whole different issue whether or not the industry should exist or if it is relevant or not. What we were talking about is the industry complying with local rules as other businesses do and how they need to cope with the various privacy laws.
By the sound your post you seem to be the ass hole in this conversation. Stay on topic or shut TF up.
So sorry, jerk. Fuck the "industry" and fuck you! :twofinger:
I'll be sure to comment on this thread more often now that I know it bothers you! :moon:
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So sorry, jerk. Fuck the "industry" and fuck you! :twofinger:
I'll be sure to comment on this thread more often now that I know it bothers you! :moon:
Boo HooHoo, did we hurt your feelings? A little too thin skinned to handle a disagreement. You going to jump up and down now and blame your life on the industry.. or no wait!! blame your parents!! But whatever you do never take any responsibility yourself. Non of it was your fault, it just has to be someone elses. right?
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Boo HooHoo, did we hurt your feelings? A little too thin skinned to handle a disagreement. You going to jump up and down now and blame your life on the industry.. or no wait!! blame your parents!! But whatever you do never take any responsibility yourself. Non of it was your fault, it just has to be someone elses. right?
Wtf? I'm handling it just fine. I'm not blaming anything on anyone except YOU, I blame you for what you are doing here -- trying to tell people what to post and what not to post. Kindly shove off and quit trying to bait people. You sound like a programmie for sure, though.
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In response to the original post:
Opioid replacement therapy is a "Cash Cow" and has become a monopoly in itself. Methadone addicts have proven time and again that they are more willing to go without electricity and even food to get the opiates they need. So methadone clinics are a solid business and a good place to park your money because it is highly leveraged subjected to high rates of return.
Looking to change its face and get away from the word “clinic†the opiate divisions are moving to the name “CRC’s outpatient divisionâ€. The clinics from now on will be comprehensive treatment centers, offering outpatient detox, to handle the fast growing demand for specialty methamphetamine care. In October, CRC admitted its first two patients into outpatient treatment at the methadone clinics.
If they can change the image of the opioid type clinics they may make a better impression on the neighborhoods and make it easier to be accepted.
But recent filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission reveal that methadone maintenance has for the last several years been a very central mainstay of CRC’s operations........ The filings also reveal that methadone is by far the most profitable segment of CRC’s now far flung addiction treatment business. ....... CRC grew its methadone operation by about 130 percent, with annual opiate revenues reaching almost $84 million, which equaled 40 percent of CRC’s sales ...... However, during the same period, operating profits from the methadone segment soared by 240 percent, suggesting that CRC has been able to bring substantial economy of scale efficiencies to the business. Marketing prowess also comes into play, as 82 percent of clients are private pay, with clinics averaging 428 clients each, twice the industry norm. And the profitability of CRC’s methadone business far outstrips that of its residential segment, with operating margins from the opiate division reaching an eyepopping 37 percent ...... versus the 26 percent operating margins registered by residential treatment. Despite Karlin’s protestation that debt leverage at CRC has been “modest,†the company has in fact for years been quite a leveraged enterprise, reflecting the desire of big institutional and private equity investors like Credit Suisse, the Ontario Municipal Employees Retirement System and, more recently, Bain Capital, to earn outsize returns.[/b]
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Cove Prep
Lancaster
New Perspectives at White Deer Run
Blue Mountain
New Directions of Cove Forge
Cove Forge Renewal Center
White Deer Run of Allentown
White Deer Run of Altoona
White Deer Run of Harrisburg
White Deer Run of Lewisburg
White Deer Run of New Castle
White Deer Run of Pottsville
White Deer Run of Williamsport
WDR of York
Cove Forge Behavioral Health System at Pittsburg
Cove Forge Behavioral Health System at Williamsburg
White Deer Run Cove Forge Manor House
Seems like splitting hairs but those are programs owned by CRC Health, they are not Aspen programs (yes, I know CRC owns Aspen)
It's not inconceivable that Aspen would try to build new programs in rural Pennsylvania, but as it pertains to the actual programs that kids were sent to for kickbacks there are other bad actors to examine other that Aspen or CRC.
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Seems like splitting hairs but those are programs owned by CRC Health, they are not Aspen programs (yes, I know CRC owns Aspen)
Yeah, Aspen is Mickey Mouse to CRC's Disney World, the Disturbed Kingdom. If CRC doesn't differentiate between them, I don't either. Is there a separate forum for CRC programs?
It's not inconceivable that Aspen would try to build new programs in rural Pennsylvania, but as it pertains to the actual programs that kids were sent to for kickbacks there are other bad actors to examine other that Aspen or CRC.
Many bad actors, but which are well-heeled?
http://news.lp.findlaw.com/ap/f/1310/10 ... 09_11.html (http://news.lp.findlaw.com/ap/f/1310/10-30-2009/20091030060509_11.html)
After being found delinquent, the youths were often shackled and taken to private jails whose owner was paying bribes to the judge. Federal prosecutors have said that Ciavarella and another Luzerne County judge, Michael Conahan, took a total of $2.8 million in payoffs
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2.8 million indicates some serious resources and the article implies the owner paying bribes had multiple "private jails". It's wishful thinking to hang it on Aspen at the moment and nothing more, so...eh. It's a happy thought. Who are the other possibilities?
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Is there a separate forum for CRC programs?
No I dont believe there is, but you can ask psy or ginger if you saw a need to break it out. You could have CRC and then Aspen as a subset of that as their parent company. I haven’t seen much activity here on fornits on the CRC drug rehab programs or their opiate clinics so I dont personally see a need. Aspen seems to stick with their little therapeutic boarding school niche and wilderness therapy.
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The private jail in question that the $2.8 million figure was attached to was PA Child Care, owned by the aforementioned Mid-Atlantic Youth Services (MAYS)
http://www.midatlanticyouth.com/facilit ... erne.shtml (http://www.midatlanticyouth.com/facilities/luzerne.shtml)
That's not to say that there were other programs in on the take. MAYS apparently cooperated with investigators on the case, and hasn't been targeted yet for legal action.
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The private jail in question that the $2.8 million figure was attached to was PA Child Care, owned by the aforementioned Mid-Atlantic Youth Services (MAYS)
http://www.midatlanticyouth.com/facilit ... erne.shtml (http://www.midatlanticyouth.com/facilities/luzerne.shtml)
That's not to say that there were other programs in on the take. MAYS apparently cooperated with investigators on the case, and hasn't been targeted yet for legal action.
These places you are talking about seem more like Juvy centers.