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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => CEDU / Brown Schools and derivatives / clones => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 26, 2009, 11:56:47 PM
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I believe that more attention needs to be brought to the Monarch School. I would like to bring attention to the abuses kids have suffered at Monarch School. I remember Timothy Earle grabbing me on the shoulder before graduating and looking at me and saying "Remember whatever you do, NEVER mention what happens in the insights or group workshops. Unless talking to someone who has completed the program.Otherwise you will be out of agreement." Well it took me a good tormented year before talking about Monarch School with friends and family. And it was very difficult at first. But after talking to therapists and close friends I felt more comfortable talking about my experiences there. I would like to open this forum for people to expose what happened at the Monarch school.
One of my worst experiences at the Monarch School was when Curtis Foster pushed my head to my knees with one hand while pushing up into the center of my stomach with the other hand. Yelling at me with all his might telling me to "let it all out." "I know its in there YOU TELL YOURSELF YOUR MESSED UP. YOU TELL YOURSELF YOUR WORTHLESS. YOU TELL YOURSELF YOU DONT DESERVE TO LIVE!" then he would whisper very softly "It's ok I know its in there just yell, just give it a voice, GIVE YOUR LITTLE KID A VOICE!"He constantly applied pressure to my body until I gave in and began to yell. I remember feeling the physical pain for a couple of days.
Every time I saw Curtis he would apply pressure and pinch my shoulder. Just so I would know who the boss was.
I would also constantly witness Sarah Loseman (sp?) touching "smushing" with other students in a very inappropriate way. Kids as young as 15. She would have them wrapped up so her breast were touching the student. Or I would notice her head lying in the groan area of a young male without a pillow (which was suppose to be required while "smushing" at the Monarch School).
I do not know what it is. These brainwash group therapy and insights seem to be so against being promiscuous. However, weird sexual tensions seem to constantly occur between staff and student. It always really creep me out.
I could go on for awhile about my experience but I am really curious to hear other peoples. Please post.
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I have added this thread to our datasheet over Monarch School (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Monarch_school).
However when I look at the datasheet, I believe that it could need some expansion.
What about info about living conditions, the so-called schooling, possible level system, description of the types the punishments used by the program?`
You can put it in this thread and then I will add the text to the datasheet with references here.
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I believe that more attention needs to be brought to the Monarch School. I would like to bring attention to the abuses kids have suffered at Monarch School. I remember Timothy Earle grabbing me on the shoulder before graduating and looking at me and saying "Remember whatever you do, NEVER mention what happens in the insights or group workshops. Unless talking to someone who has completed the program.Otherwise you will be out of agreement." Well it took me a good tormented year before talking about Monarch School with friends and family. And it was very difficult at first. But after talking to therapists and close friends I felt more comfortable talking about my experiences there. I would like to open this forum for people to expose what happened at the Monarch school.
One of my worst experiences at the Monarch School was when Curtis Foster pushed my head to my knees with one hand while pushing up into the center of my stomach with the other hand. Yelling at me with all his might telling me to "let it all out." "I know its in there YOU TELL YOURSELF YOUR MESSED UP. YOU TELL YOURSELF YOUR WORTHLESS. YOU TELL YOURSELF YOU DONT DESERVE TO LIVE!" then he would whisper very softly "It's ok I know its in there just yell, just give it a voice, GIVE YOUR LITTLE KID A VOICE!"He constantly applied pressure to my body until I gave in and began to yell. I remember feeling the physical pain for a couple of days.
Every time I saw Curtis he would apply pressure and pinch my shoulder. Just so I would know who the boss was.
I would also constantly witness Sarah Loseman (sp?) touching "smushing" with other students in a very inappropriate way. Kids as young as 15. She would have them wrapped up so her breast were touching the student. Or I would notice her head lying in the groan area of a young male without a pillow (which was suppose to be required while "smushing" at the Monarch School).
I do not know what it is. These brainwash group therapy and insights seem to be so against being promiscuous. However, weird sexual tensions seem to constantly occur between staff and student. It always really creep me out.
I could go on for awhile about my experience but I am really curious to hear other peoples. Please post.
I understand WHY this is upsetting. Most Graduates do NOT remember or want to remember the freakishness and pressure in having achieve emotional catharsis in front of peers and staff- on demand. The lengths that the staff will go to make their point is clear: the ends justify the means.
Ironically, Dan Earle, Tim's father used to give me a pinch or a small kick whenever he saw me, too. While I think he's creepy, I never disliked him for any reason, until I found out more later about his pervy actions in Idaho.
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One of my worst experiences at the Monarch School was when Curtis Foster pushed my head to my knees with one hand while pushing up into the center of my stomach with the other hand. Yelling at me with all his might telling me to "let it all out." "I know its in there YOU TELL YOURSELF YOUR MESSED UP. YOU TELL YOURSELF YOUR WORTHLESS. YOU TELL YOURSELF YOU DONT DESERVE TO LIVE!" then he would whisper very softly "It's ok I know its in there just yell, just give it a voice, GIVE YOUR LITTLE KID A VOICE!"He constantly applied pressure to my body until I gave in and began to yell. I remember feeling the physical pain for a couple of days.
Every time I saw Curtis he would apply pressure and pinch my shoulder. Just so I would know who the boss was.
Here's his brief bio from Monarch School's website:
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Curtis Foster (http://http://www.monarchschool.com/bios/foster.html) - Life Skills Manager
(http://http://www.monarchschool.com/images/faculty/faculty_foster.jpg)
Curtis earned his bachelor’s degree in Psychology from Central State University in Edmond, Oklahoma. By the time he completed his degree he had already worked nine years in the mental health field. He started working with teenagers in 1981 at a Psychiatric hospital in Oklahoma City and from there moved into residential treatment at a small RTC in OKC 2 years later. He remained with this program for 14 years in various capacities ranging from Team Leader to Center Supervisor to ROPES Course Manager. In this last role he learned a great deal about experiential education and brought that knowledge with him to the Inland Northwest in 1997.
Curtis moved to North Idaho in 1997 and began a new chapter of his life working in therapeutic boarding schools. Working for various schools Curtis continued to expand his education and knowledge base before coming to Monarch in October of 2004 where he was a Peer Leader for two groups before becoming a Life Skills Manager this year.
Curtis brings years of experience as well as an enthusiasm for working with young people. He loves the outdoors and hard work. A devoted husband and father of three teens of his own, Curtis is happiest surrounded by youth.
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Curtis is happiest surrounded by youth.
(http://http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/0/04/Pedobear_13.png)
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Curtis is happiest surrounded by youth.
(http://http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/0/04/Pedobear_13.png)
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
*I* did NOT write that! Why do you think I went to the trouble of stating it was from Monarch's website and putting a friggin' separator bar between their words and mine?!! Lol...
Seriously, the fruitiness comes through even in the bios from this place. From reading up, I've determined that a "Life Skills Manager" is a rung higher up the cult ladder than a "Peer Leader." Who would've known? :eek:
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Ursus, that was my point- that Monarch practically advertises him as being a pedo. (I'll remember to change the "-name- wrote" part next time, promise..)
I don't even have any words for the sick shit that the OP reported other than "somebody needs to go there and forcibly empty the place, preferably the FBI".
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Nah, If you read what many of the graduates say about the place it was a real help to them. You are going to get negativity from just about any school if you search hard enough. Not every kid appreciates or views their experience the same way. You cant judge the place based on one persons experience.
I think the key is to do a better job screening the kids prior to placement to insure they will have a positive experience. This would reduce the number of kids who do not do well or will not apply themselves.
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I would also constantly witness Sarah Loseman (sp?) touching "smushing" with other students in a very inappropriate way. Kids as young as 15. She would have them wrapped up so her breast were touching the student. Or I would notice her head lying in the groan area of a young male without a pillow (which was suppose to be required while "smushing" at the Monarch School).
I do not know what it is. These brainwash group therapy and insights seem to be so against being promiscuous. However, weird sexual tensions seem to constantly occur between staff and student. It always really creep me out.
And here's her brief bio from Monarch School's website; yet another "Life Skills Manager," fwiw:
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Sarah Loseman (http://http://www.monarchschool.com/bios/loseman.html) - Life Skill Manager
(http://http://www.monarchschool.com/images/faculty/faculty_loseman.jpg)
Sarah Loseman has been working at Monarch School for 4 ½ years. She got her Bachelor's degree in Psychology from Truman State University in Kirksville, MO. She then moved to Texas, where she worked for two years at an Outdoor Education Center with fifth graders. She has spent many summers working at camps leading wilderness trips and enjoying the outdoors.
Sarah got her Master's degree in Counseling at Stephan F. Austin State University in Nacogdoches, TX. While working on her Master's degree, she did an internship at a wilderness program in Lufkin, TX and then at a residential program in Utah. While in Utah, she worked as a recreational therapist, equine therapist and worked with a group of 9 girls. She came to Monarch months after graduating and worked as a peer group leader for 4 years. Sarah is now a Life Skills Manager and will be working with the upper school. She has graduated two peer groups (Tamarack Horizon and Midnight Juniper) and is now working with her third group, Luminous Sapphire.
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Its great to see master leveled employees at these places. As you skim through the staff it becomes obvious that these programs are shifting to hiring more experienced and better educated people. Even the cook is college educated!
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Its great to see master leveled employees at these places. As you skim through the staff it becomes obvious that these programs are shifting to hiring more experienced and better educated people. Even the cook is college educated!
You said it! Some of these educated people have their common sense "schooled" right out of them! Why stay in touch with reality when you can create your own universe! What's right and what's wrong are just all so relative, eh?
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Its great to see master leveled employees at these places. As you skim through the staff it becomes obvious that these programs are shifting to hiring more experienced and better educated people. Even the cook is college educated!
You said it! Some of these educated people have their common sense "schooled" right out of them! Why stay in touch with reality when you can create your own universe! What's right and what's wrong are just all so relative, eh?
First of all, Ursus, This woman has not been charged or convicted of anything, nor has there been any formal complaints. We cant judge her based on an anonymous post. I think you would agree there. If you have read here on fornits for any length of time (which I know you have) you would know that many here purposefully try to damage staffs reputations….i.e. calling them Pedos because their bio says they enjoy working with children etc.. Would you want people who didn’t like working with children there? Lol
Secondly one of the biggest argument against programs has been that the staff isn’t trained, isn’t educated enough. Many say they should be masters’ level. Now that the programs are hiring Masters leveled employees we should at least recognize it. Or are you now saying that education isn’t that important as long as they hire employees with common sense.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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I happened to be in Sarah Loseman's peer group and had Curtis Foster seek me out over other kids to bully. He always wanted to let kids know who was boss. I remember being grasped on the neck many times by Mr. Foster. He was always talking about how he was a family man and how he loved his wife, (who later came to work as the person who approved incoming clothing for the students) and children and would always let people know how "sensitive" he was. Since I was there for about 15 months I was constantly around him and may not be the best judge about his character but he's definitely NOT a pedophile. He would always talk about his old jobs and how violent everyone was with kids. I also know from his life story (everyone was required to constantly tell their life story, at least once per week, staff included somewhat) that he has problems with being violent. During 'Insights' known as workshops in most other schools Curtis would often be the main staff facilitating and when it came to physical or emotional boundaries there were none. In one particular workshop staff would force kids on their hands and knees while having 4 other students push down on their back too and yell at them "THIS IS ALL OF THE PRESSURE FROM YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, ARE YOU GOING TO CHOOSE TRUTH OR DEATH?" that was a big thing in that workshop, they would tell you that life was black and white, that living in gray areas would lead back to our negative behaviors and then they would polarize "truth" and "death" as if there was no other way to get through the insight without being fully honest and forward, forcing kids (who have been up screaming and hitting pillows for the past 12 hours with little to no sleep) to come out and confess everything that they have done wrong and every rule they had broken.
Now Sarah Loseman, She was my peer group leader until I got broken down and told confessed to all of the rules I had broken. which was enough to have me dropped not just one peer group but two, extending my stay to 26 months, potentially the longest stay of anyone at monarch. She called me into the staff office after telling me this awful news and proceeded to call my parents in front of me and explain why this was best for me and my therapy. they had the parents wrapped around their finger, before every parent campus visit the staff including the headmaster Tim Earle and owner Patrick McKenna (stambursky [sp?]) would groom the parents into not believing all of the horrible stories we would tell them about group and the staff members screaming at us and forcing us to do arbitrary hard work like pulling stumps out of the ground. It was all part of our therapy and it was all part of Monarch School: Education for Life.
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Anybody ever have the nutsack to say "I choose death, kill me now"?
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I happened to be in Sarah Loseman's peer group and had Curtis Foster seek me out over other kids to bully. He always wanted to let kids know who was boss. I remember being grasped on the neck many times by Mr. Foster. He was always talking about how he was a family man and how he loved his wife, (who later came to work as the person who approved incoming clothing for the students) and children and would always let people know how "sensitive" he was. Since I was there for about 15 months I was constantly around him and may not be the best judge about his character but he's definitely NOT a pedophile. He would always talk about his old jobs and how violent everyone was with kids. I also know from his life story (everyone was required to constantly tell their life story, at least once per week, staff included somewhat) that he has problems with being violent. During 'Insights' known as workshops in most other schools Curtis would often be the main staff facilitating and when it came to physical or emotional boundaries there were none. In one particular workshop staff would force kids on their hands and knees while having 4 other students push down on their back too and yell at them "THIS IS ALL OF THE PRESSURE FROM YOUR FAMILY, FRIENDS, ARE YOU GOING TO CHOOSE TRUTH OR DEATH?" that was a big thing in that workshop, they would tell you that life was black and white, that living in gray areas would lead back to our negative behaviors and then they would polarize "truth" and "death" as if there was no other way to get through the insight without being fully honest and forward, forcing kids (who have been up screaming and hitting pillows for the past 12 hours with little to no sleep) to come out and confess everything that they have done wrong and every rule they had broken.
Now Sarah Loseman, She was my peer group leader until I got broken down and told confessed to all of the rules I had broken. which was enough to have me dropped not just one peer group but two, extending my stay to 26 months, potentially the longest stay of anyone at monarch. She called me into the staff office after telling me this awful news and proceeded to call my parents in front of me and explain why this was best for me and my therapy. they had the parents wrapped around their finger, before every parent campus visit the staff including the headmaster Tim Earle and owner Patrick McKenna (stambursky [sp?]) would groom the parents into not believing all of the horrible stories we would tell them about group and the staff members screaming at us and forcing us to do arbitrary hard work like pulling stumps out of the ground. It was all part of our therapy and it was all part of Monarch School: Education for Life.
Hyde calls their version Hyde School: Preparation for Life. Maybe these guys use the same marketing firm! ... J/K.
All jokes aside, there sure is much of the same lingo being slung around in these programs, in subtly different ways... :D
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A few people walked out of the workshops (in the entire history of the school) but there was immense pressure to stay from everyone in there since everyone in there was drinking the kool-aid.
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What about info about living conditions, the so-called schooling, possible level system, description of the types the punishments used by the program?`
Living Conditions:
There are male and female dorms on opposite sides of campus. Each dorm has a Dorm Head, they are in charge of the typically 4 other students in the dorm. Everything in the dorms must be left exceptionally clean every morning before leaving the dorm. The dorms are then checked by a higher level student and they see if they can find 3 things wrong with the dorm (pants not folded into thirds, sheets not pulled up over top of comforter, shoes not lined up, toilet tissue not folded into a little triangle at the tip for ease of tugging) then the dorm is in. If the dorm in question is found messy by the designated dorm checker the whole dorm or a single student of being called out and humiliated in front of the entire school at a meal time. Most dorms shared a bathroom with another dorm. They were in the same building connected by a shared bathroom with 3 shower stalls and 3 toilet stalls. every Saturday we were made to deep clean the entire campus and staff members would come in and inspect every square inch of the dorm. Curtis Foster (a peer group leader) repeatedly made me clean the toilets with my comet, a rag and my bare hands, insisting that I get my hand down the flush hole as far as I could so I could get it all clean as he stood over me and watched.
So-Called Schooling
School takes place Monday, Wednesday and Friday. there are 3 classes every school day and you are able to get through your credits faster there because of the schooling through the summer and the shorter terms. Also at night you were required to sign up for 2 creative arts classes. so you were technically taking 5 classes all while learning nothing. the school work there was incredibly easy and dumbed down. the staff that had attemped to revamp the School half of Monarch School quit out of frustration because all of the focus was on the "emotional growth" cirriculum.
when we weren't going to school (which was all but 9 hours per week) we would work in work crews or on our own if we were in trouble. we would attend group sessions twice per week, (each was 2.5 hours long) where students and staff alike would get their scream on at each other. (more specifically would verbally abuse one another and themselves sometimes for the entire duration of the group). we were forced to say things like "i tell myself I'm stupid, ITMI not good enough ITMI [negative this or that specific to the person] (fat, ugly, unwanted, etc.)
Level systems
I don't remember the level systems very well as I only got to 2. not that I wasn't there for a long time, most kids were on level 4 or 5 by that point, I got dropped 2 peer groups and my stay was suddenly going to be 26 months long. luckily I got out after 15 long months, but alas to another fucking place, this time in Utah.
Punishment
The types punishments were immense. I had to dig out a stump that weighed around a ton by myself, I was not allowed to talk to, look at or even acknowledge any of my peers even staff members besides the headmaster Tim Earle and my Peer Group Leader Sarah Loseman for about a week or two at one point. I was usually restricted to talking to only certain students during my time there, they would put me on bans from my friends just to break me down.
The biggest punishment for me though was having to go through the workshops again when they dropped me from my original peergroup. I had to go through all of the brainwashing, boundary breaking and physical and emotional abuse all over again. they would also take away whatever was important to you (guitar, art, books, knitting - you name it) just to keep you down.
We were not allowed to do anything "out of agreement". "out of agreement" or OOA was just monarch bullshit for "against the rules". There was no actual list of what was in or out of agreement, it was just based on what Tim Earle said, but mostly on what the other asshole students and staff would hold you to when you were around them. so pretty much all music was OOA and talking about it, playing it on an instrument, humming, singing or even casually referencing it would get people on your ass instantly saying "you can't say/play/hum/sing/think that". anything out of agreement we did we were supposed to remember and write down on an "OOA list" any time we were asked to do so, so we could then make up for everything on that list by doing "consequences" like doing dishes or digging out stumps.
the real thing they didn't want anyone to talk about were the insights or workshops. these were the same as all of the other cedu type school workshops just with different names. they would lose it if you were to share what happened in the insights. I even found an insight manual one time for the 3rd insight called Unity. I think this is the equivalent of the "friends" workshop but i'm not sure. there was a whole bunch of talk about "no man is an island" and stuff. they have since stopped doing the workshops and from what I have heard (which isn't much) they do group 3 times per week.
if there is any other information on this shithole that would be helpful please let me know as I would be glad to help as well as ask around about it.
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the real thing they didn't want anyone to talk about were the insights or workshops. these were the same as all of the other cedu type school workshops just with different names. they would lose it if you were to share what happened in the insights. I even found an insight manual one time for the 3rd insight called Unity. I think this is the equivalent of the "friends" workshop but i'm not sure. there was a whole bunch of talk about "no man is an island" and stuff. they have since stopped doing the workshops and from what I have heard (which isn't much) they do group 3 times per week.
Do you remember any of the other names for the insights/workshops? Also, do you still have the manual for the 3rd Insight "Unity?"
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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The insights were as follows.
Integrity
Innocence
Unity
Choices
Will
Essence
Pinnacle
And there were two "workshops" that were supposedly different than the insights. I forgot the name of the first one but it shared a name with the original RMA/CEDU one and then there was I vs E or Intellect vs Essence. what were the ones at your programs called?
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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*Truth, Childrens, Brothers, Dreams, I want to live, Values, Imagine, I & Me workshop, Summit workshop
The IWL was considered the "grandaddy" of all propheets. The workshops..... ::puke::
For what its worth, the workshops/insights/dickshit at Monarch are nearly 100% identical to CEDU's except for the obvious name changes.To break it down: Integrity = Truth, Innocence = Childrens, Unity = Brothers, Dreams = Dreams, Choices = Values, Will = I Want to Live ( with that dumb ass song), Imagine = Essence, I & Me = I vs E (the whole Mel Wasserman I and Me lingo and story was literally told during it as the source), Pinnacle = Summit.
As we can see these are some quite imaginative and creative name changes. I read the I & Me insight script on Liam Scheff's website and it is the exact same as Intellect vs. Essence. It seems they only changed the title, not any of the content. All of the slogans, exercises, bullshit are exactly the same. They played the exact same music. Of course it was also done by many of the same people who were doing it at CEDU (Steve Rookey, Tim Earle, the list goes on and on), a hefty percentage of the staffers were former CEDU/RMA schmucks.
I went through all that fuckin bullshit there.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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this is true crime..........
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Tim Earle... now has his own consulting practice in Frisco:
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Breaking News
Posted: Oct 22, 2010
Earle Consulting
San Francisco, CA
Earle Visits Woodbury Reports (http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/publish/TimothyEarleBN_101022.shtml)
Contact
Timothy Earle
Principal Consultant
208-610-0215
http://www.Earle-Consulting.com (http://www.Earle-Consulting.com)
(http://http://www.strugglingteens.com/artman/uploads/timothyearle101022web.jpg)
Timothy Earle of Earle Consulting stopped by the Woodbury Reports office for a visit. Timothy has extensive first hand experience working with teens at risk and their parents, an experience that spans 15 years.
Most recently, Timothy was one of the principals who created a nationally recognized leading emotional growth boarding school, and was its Program Director. In that role, he was responsible for creating, implementing and supervising all emotional growth aspects for the students. He was also responsible for hiring, training and managing the professional staff.
Currently, Timothy works as the principal consultant for his firm, Earle Consulting. For more information, contact him at 208-610-0215 or visit his website, www.Earle-Consulting.com (http://http://www.earle-consulting.com/)
Copyright ©2010, Woodbury Reports, Inc.
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I have seen this. Looks like he couldn't cut it this time as an actor either. I seriously think he gave it up for about a year. Nationally recognized. yeah soon.
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Another blurb on it from Strugglingteens.com:
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EARLE CONSULTING
New Perspectives
Posted: Nov 5, 2010, 08:43
Point Richmond, California
Timothy Earle
Principal Consultant
208-610-0215
http://www.Earle-Consulting.com (http://www.Earle-Consulting.com)
Earle Consulting "Helping Families with Teens at Risk" is a new family coaching service located by the bay in Point Richmond, CA. This service is designed to help families change their dynamics and turn negative patterns into constructive ones by addressing the whole family dynamic. Timothy works with families with teens who are struggling with substance abuse, defiant attitudes and behaviors, and patterns of isolation. In addition, Earle Consulting works with families who are transitioning their child to or from a therapeutic setting.
Owner, founder and principal consultant Timothy Earle has over 15 years of widespread experience working with struggling and at risk teens and their parents. Prior to opening this new service, Timothy helped create a leading emotional growth boarding school in Heron, MT and held the position of Program Manager, creating and implementing the emotional growth aspects, in addition to supervising, training and hiring staff members.
Services begin with an in-home assessment and the chance to observe the family dynamic, environment, communication skills, and behaviors. This assessment combined with the family history allows for a detailed, individualized plan to be created. Earle Consulting uses Skype, a videoconferencing service, in order to conduct all of the individual and family coaching sessions when distance or location makes face to face work difficult.
[This information came from the Earle Consulting website and written communication from Timothy Earle.]
Copyright 1995-2010 by Woodbury Reports Inc.
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Yeah Monarch is a pretty fucked up place. I was in Dave Rookey's peer group. It was always relieving to know that my peer group leader had no collage education and was previously employed as a cook. Seems legit right........ :suicide: It took me a while after i graduated to realize that Monarch was so disgusting. When I first graduated I didn't view the school in hugely negative way. After having sometime away from the other cultists i was able to realize that the Monarch was not only misguided but, personally damaging. Monarch made my anxiety soooooo much worse. I have never felt so uncomfortable in my life doing some of the bizarre "emotional growth exercises." Everyone knows the best way to beat addiction is by beating pillows and denouncing your parents LOL.
I have been hearing that Monarch has changed the curriculum after receiving so many complaints. It seems like the general trend is that these CEDU clones start out more radical and over time have to make changes because of complaints. Anyways, it's a horrible school and hope it gets shut down as soon as possible......
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I worked at the "Monarch Hell" from Day 1 (My Picture was on the wall, arm in arm in front of the Uhaul truck) before that CEDU. First a quick Summary.....
It cost me 2 homes , A marriage and years of true emotional Constipation.
I transported children for Bill Lane and Assoc. For Years as well, I used to say "I am saving lives" But that was Bullshit! I was making money period. Students and Staff know me personally. Pat , Tim ,Ron, Steve , Dave, Chuck from the Monarch Hell. As for CEDU Ascent
Brian , Larry, Trilby ,Steve and Dave(again) and Countless other educated derelicts.
These programs promote love and say to themselves "we are saving lives" truth is
MONEY! They want lots of it and pay their people (staff) as little as possible.
I used to tell the kids having a hard time "don't trade a lesser positive for a greater negative"
Meaning don't get sent away to a wilderness or lock down facilty. But really was telling myself that. I focused on building relationships with the students and stayed true to them. Even after monarch and CEDU they stayed in touch with me. Hell even had a wonderful relationship with a wonderful young lady ( she was 21) and got scolded for that....
Funny thing ..... my life didn't get better till I stopped working for these places
I changed my priorities to Family first, Work second , Me third.
And to be completely HONEST , Good bad or Ugly....
Now for all the young adults who have endured their own personal Hells....
Choices got you to these programs period. you were doing drugs, being disobiendant
And disrespectful to your parents ,so on and so on...
Now for all the Parents who their kids put them through hell.....
Step up be a parent, take time off from work( we all know your spending $$THOUSANDS A MONTH to Send them Away $$ spend time with your CHANGING teen
Discover who they are not what you want them to BE!!! And who knows you might actually start to like your Child again!!! And they might actually start to respect you again.... Sounds Simple CAUSE IT IS.........YOU MAKE IT HARD NOT THE CHILDREN!!!!!
Now for the Parents who Adopt......
This is going to hurt ........
You fall in love with the idea of a lovely little baby
Then the child grows up has issues of "Self"
You in turn can't answer their questions Honestly
Cause your to proud to admit selfishness
( you couldn't have children so you chose to Adopt so you could feel whole)
Now your Adopted child is dealing with a influx of emotions , questions like why did my mom give me up? And in their TIME OF NEED what do you do SEND THEM AWAY to emotional growth boarding school...... YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
Now as for who I am ........ You know who I am
I outfitted Every Kid At Ascent, Famous or Discreet
I've woke you at 4 in the morning and traveled cross country
You've seen my flashlight in the dark of night
I've made you breakfast for years
And made you use "coulds and woulds"
As for the Staff of all these places " the Most Disfunctional worthless people I've ever had to Endure, Everyone I ever have gotten to know through these places are Absolutely MENTAL
Even I would go as far as saying Brainwashed......
It came down to HONESTY live HONESTLY
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I have to say after reading all the posts on this site it seems that some forgot why they where sent away in the first place. I know one of the main reasons I was sent away was for my constant rebellion against authority. Seems that some of you are still struggling with this. I hope that you are able to mature out of this and move ahead with your life. It would be really healthy for you.
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I copied and pasted what I wrote on the other Monarch thread, so here it is:
A little late to jump on this thread, but let me give you my two cents.
I attended the Monarch School in Montana (not Monarch "Academy," btw) from June 2009 to December 2010. I graduated the therapeutic program and came home with a few credits left to be able to complete high school. I've had about a year and a half to reflect back on my experience and I will say this: While I think some parts of Monarch are well-intentioned, I believe that it harms more students than it helps.
The therapy workshops, called "insights," are modeled after similar workshops seen at CEDU and the likes. (Do a google search for CEDU if you're interested in reading some scary stuff about places like this). There are 7 or 8 workshops I believe, most last a day long and consist of very strange therapy exercises. This includes screaming in a partner's face while pretending like they are your parents, getting on your hands and knees and being pushed down to the floor by a staff member and other students while you are supposed to resist, going around in a circle and telling your peers every bad thing you've ever said or thought about them, screaming while beating up pillows, standing up against a wall with your nose touching the wall for a long time while being told that the choices you make are leading you to "fear and death," etc. That list just a tip of the iceberg. These workshops were filled with all sorts of mind games as well as some seriously inappropriate breaching of boundaries, both physical and emotional. Not to mention students who had experience trauma (rape, abuse, etc.) were forced to talk about it with their peers within the first 2 months of being there, when they were still getting to know people, and with no licensed therapist present. In the very last workshop, an intense 5-day one, they had strict rules about not being able to bite your nails, sitting in a certain way, not masturbating when we got back into our dorms at night, etc. If you did any of these things, you had to stand up in front of everyone and admit it. It was very invasive.
On top of that, we were constantly told that if we talked about these workshops with anyone else who hadn't been through them -- newer students, random people, and even our PARENTS -- that there would be consequences.
The rules were over the top too. The dress code was very strict. There was the "only girl rule," which meant that a girl couldn't be sitting at a table with two other boys, but a boy could be in a group of all girls if he wanted. On one hand, physical contact with the opposite sex other than hugging was VERY against the rules, but people of the same sex were pressured into "smushing," which was their word for cuddling (putting a pillow between your open legs and letting a girl lie down on it, etc.). If you didn't smush with people, you would be seen as "resistant." If you developed a crush on a student and other people noticed, you were forced to talk about it in group therapy, where you would have to explain your entire sexual past to that person in front of everyone else, and then you were temporarily placed on "bans" with them, which meant you weren't allowed to talk to them, touch their belongings, mention their name, or even make eye contact with them. Bans were a specific punishment for other offenses as well.
We weren't allowed to listen to any music that the staff didn't like, watch TV, read the newspaper, watch the news, go on the internet unless for academic reasons and supervised, talk about popular culture, watch romance movies, pass notes, crack too many jokes, have a strand of hair in your face (for girls), have unmatching socks on, read comics, read any magazines other than sewing magazines, and use sarcasm, among other things. The rules were very invasive and included strange things like not being allowed to shave pubic hair. Students would get in trouble for things like drinking out of the same cup as a member of the opposite sex. Punishments included being on bans from the entire school (including not being able to look at anyone), being put in isolation (basically sitting at a table with just a notebook and not being able to participate in daily activities), work assignments (which included getting a meal taken away on certain days so you had more time to do physical labor outside), digging stumps out of the ground even if it was raining or snowing, etc.
Staff crossed many boundaries as well. Students were encouraged to share disclosures, which basically was a list of every "bad" thing they had ever done, and staff would do the same. This included sexual disclosures, so I ended up hearing graphic details of staff members sexual pasts during workshops. Staff members would also be physically affectionate with the students (i.e. "smushing"), give them back rubs, and knew every detail of your life and thoughts.
Since this thread hasn't been updated in a while, I'm going to leave it at that for now.
I have much much more I could write here if anyone is interested.
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That's just not bringing any particularly pleasant images to mind. You doing ok now?