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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: calo on October 13, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
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Benefits of Change Academy at Lake of the Ozarks
You meet and make life long friends
You become very friendly
You tend do always do your homework
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Why Choose CALO?
A Letter from the Founder of CALO:
Across the country there are a number of generalist residential treatment centers. Many of them do fine work. They treat issues and disorders such as Oppositional Defiant Disorder, Conduct Disorder, Depression, Bi-polar Disorder, some personality disorders, phase of life issues, etc. Most work from a behavior modification paradigm. A few are more relationally oriented. A smaller few utilize a community or positive peer culture model. All try to change the lives of struggling teens.
Generalist programs are usually large (80 plus and as many as 250 at times) and level-focused in their treatment approach. In order to manage student behavior they frequently put systems of rewards and punishments in place.
These programs came into being to fill a need created largely by managed care in the healthcare industry. Managed care decreased stays in hospital settings and pushed members to acute care and stabilization treatment. Longer, chronic care and remediation lost its funding source. Managed care effectively ended long stays in psychiatric hospitals. Long stays went away but the need for some sort of longer-term treatment did not. Residential treatment has filled the void left in the wake of decreased lengths of psychiatric hospitalization.
As residential treatment has matured, the one size fits all approach has lost its appeal. There are many presenting problems that are not well grouped together. A program that puts eating-disordered teens with Conduct Disordered ones will feel the strain of the differing needs of those populations. Simply put, specialist care is needed for many emotional and behavioral issues. Eating Disorders, issues of trauma, Reactive Attachment Disorder, non-verbal learning disabilities, substance abuse; these and many other issues demand specialized knowledge and treatment. CALO was created with this need for specialty care in mind.
CALO focuses on only three presenting issues: issues of emotion, trauma, and attachment.
An even more concise way of presenting CALO’s specialty is to say that issues with trauma at their core are what we treat. Trauma during the attachment window will frequently create attachment issues in later adolescence. Trauma will also lay the groundwork for later Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. Trauma will predispose some teens for emotional regulation issues like Bi-polar Disorder or Depression. CALO treats trauma-induced emotional and behavioral problems.
Our theoretical framework is based on attachment research. Our treatment model relies on relationships and attachment interventions to create lasting change. CALO is a relational, attachment-centered program.
The following would be a partial list of the type of teenager CALO would specialize in treating:
A teenage adoptee struggling to connect with parents and caregivers
A teen who has been physically, emotionally, or sexually abused and is now acting out behaviorally
A teen who has survived a trauma and cannot maintain emotional control
A foreign-adopted teen who is not fitting in at home or at school and is draining emotional resources from his/her adopted family
A teen with anger control issues and a history of abuse or neglect
An untrustworthy and sexually promiscuous teenager who does not enjoy deeper connection with family or caregivers
CALO utilizes time, experiential successes, relationships, peer interactions, and specialized environment to reach our troubled teen in a way not done by most other programs. Other generalist programs cannot treat our population as effectively or efficiently as CALO.
We welcome questions about our treatment model. Feel free to contact me at the numbers below.
Sincerely,
Ken Huey, Ph.D., CEO
130 CALO Lane
Lake Ozark, MO 65049
Toll-free direct (866) 459-1364
Main phone line (573) 365-2221
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The canine program is an integral part of the CALO therapeutic model. Through Trust of Care, canines help students develop love, responsibility, and accountability through meeting the physical needs of golden retrievers. Students feed, water, groom, train, exercise, clean up after and, of course, play with canines. Students have daily walks with the canines using our secluded nature trail at the beautiful Lake of the Ozarks.
Students better understand Trust of Control when they learn how to train, discipline, lead, and regulate canine behavior. As students struggle with poor behavior from the dogs and the difficulties of training the canines, students are helped to understand frustrations their parents have similarly felt. This process lays the foundation of students feeling empathy for their parents. Empathy is the fertile soil where attachment can grow. This empathy is gained experientially, not through abstract discussion.
Studies have supported what has been observed at CALO; that canines have a calming effect on humans by regulating blood pressure and heart rate. Dysregulated students have often turned to their safe friend when having a difficult time emotionally. Additionally, golden retrievers provide safe touch through playful and loving acceptance. Students who have been inappropriately touched, abused, or never had the calming physical closeness they deserved earlier in life find safety in learning this safe touch through these amazing creatures.
Students eventually help their canine develop Trust of Self by training and leading the canines to be self-regulated and follow their adolescent leader. Typically, canines don’t respond well unless given clear instructions and communication from a care-giver. As a result, students learn healthy ways to assert themselves and how they send and receive verbal and non-verbal messages. Further, canines quickly acclimate to the rhythm of a student and match his/her energy. Thus, canines provide further feedback to students—when to be calm and in control when it is time to play.
The primary purpose of the canine program is to empower students to experience Interdependence – healthy, affectionate, reciprocal relationships. Canines help accomplish this through their instinctive ability to provide unconditional love. This provides a unique opportunity for the adolescent to practice healthy attachment with a non-threatening friend.
When students make mistakes with the canines, much like parents make errors with their children, the golden retriever forgives the student. This immediate forgiveness allows the student to see the value of being less judgmental, rigid, and forgiving of others and themselves. Most importantly, the process of reciprocity, connection-break-repair, and mutual giving and taking increases a student’s self-worth. As a result, the student is better prepared to face their emotional difficulties knowing they are loved and valued.
All CALO students will have the opportunity to bond with the canines and learn to invest in their physical and emotional needs. Some students will have the opportunity to be a foster parent for a canine and gain the valuable interpersonal and life lessons the canines offer. Other students will have the chance to adopt a canine that will eventually go home with the student at graduation, encouraging a long-term relationship. On a smaller scale, this adoption process mirrors the adoption experience that families go through when adopting a child (application, essays, home study, placement, finalization, etc.). Increased empathy is transferred to the students as they struggle through the adoption journey and realize the work their own adoptive parents endured in welcoming them as a child in their family.
Ultimately, the canine-adolescent relationship allows students to develop an understanding of parental love, something we at CALO refer to as “transferrable attachment.” The very core lesson that countless conversations and traditional talk therapy never taught a student over the years is finally discovered experientially as a student is vulnerable to a loving, safe animal — “If my parents love me more than I love my canine, I do feel safe. I really can trust that they won’t leave me, hurt me or intentionally do harm.”
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Support from other parents
August 27, 2009 19:19 by Ken
One of the ways that we try to help families is by finding resources for dealing with issues while a child is still at home, or after a child has been in residential treatment. There are not a lot of that type of resource where a professional can come to your home if you live in a remote area. Even if you live near a big city, frequently there is not a professional around that is trained in working with trauma or attachment issues. In an information age, the internet can be a tremendous help if you know what to look for. This post is meant to give an idea of where to go for some invaluable help from parents who struggle with attachment and trauma-challenged teens.
The organization is called the “Attachment and Trauma Network (ATN).” If you want to go to their website, type in www.radzebra.org (http://www.radzebra.org). ATN was created by a mother who adopted some children who were struggling. Nancy Spoolstra was that mom and she was unable to figure out where to go for help. When she eventually found some of the help she needed she began networking in the attachment world and realized that many parents needed some support from other parents. Parents needed a place to look for answers. With that in mind she created ATN and it has been most helpful to hundreds and thousands of families since.
ATN is a true non-profit. There are many links and resources that are free on their site. If you want unlimited access to support groups you can try that out for free for a month or so. Joining costs $35 per year. I believe in what they are doing so much that I joined the board as a volunteer. Take a look at ATN and give me feedback about your thoughts
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http://omgili.com/calo (http://omgili.com/calo)
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What happens when your trust of care fails?
What happen when your program model fails?
What happens when you're male staff likes to fondle or "tickle" young girls?
What happens when young girls are seen sitting on the laps of your staff members?
What happens when all your lies are exposed?
What happens when we take action?
CG
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What happens when your trust of care fails?
What happen when your program model fails?
What happens when you're male staff likes to fondle or "tickle" young girls?
What happens when young girls are seen sitting on the laps of your staff members?
What happens when all your lies are exposed?
What happens when we take action?
CG
Staff at CALO do not fondle or "tickle" young girls. The program model is successful due to dedicated staff. CALO is upront with parents so they know what to expect. Girls do not sit on the laps of staff members. What lies are you referring to?
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Why believe propaganda from those who have created it?
Did anyone believe Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Chang? Idi? Barbra Boxer? or Charles Shumer?
WTF?
CG
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I'm referring to what I have personally witnessed.
I have direct personal knowledge that many questionable things go on at CALO that no one wants to admit to.
How can you deny what I have personally seen?
CG
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CALO,
I'm waiting...I've seen it.....Calo is in a world of shit. I'm reputable and have other witnessed other than myself.
You are a bunch of liars. I will make sure you pay for your lies.
I won't quit. I will never stop.
CG
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Give me their non for profit 401(c) FEIN number so we can 1099 the B.S. you are spewing.'
After all, we would love to tax you for your B.S.
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CALO,
Would you like names, faces?
I've been there, I've seen it. You are full of shit. I can testify to it and I will. Test me and you will find out. I have 3 other witnesses that are just willing to tell the truth.
I'm waiting to see you in person.
CG
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CALO,
Let's go...it's time for a fight.
You are a fag, a coward, and a liar.
Step up to the plate and meet me in person.
CG
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CALO,
Disclose who you are and I will disclose who I am.
I've witnessed this. I can tell you names. I want to tell the world the truth about CALO and what I've personally seen. Yes, girls do sit on the laps of the staff and yes, I've personally seen staff "tickling" underage girls. Sucks for you.
Challenge me. I'll meet you in person.
CG
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Ha! Ha! Ha!
You meet what????
What does Caleb think about this? Has Caleb met friends he would like to spend time with?
CG
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Benefits of Change Academy at Lake of the Ozarks
You meet and make life long friends
You become very friendly
You tend do always do your homework
A little more focus on that last one might help with improving communication skills.
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Support from other parents
August 27, 2009 19:19 by Ken
One of the ways that we try to help families is by finding resources for dealing with issues while a child is still at home, or after a child has been in residential treatment. There are not a lot of that type of resource where a professional can come to your home if you live in a remote area. Even if you live near a big city, frequently there is not a professional around that is trained in working with trauma or attachment issues. In an information age, the internet can be a tremendous help if you know what to look for. This post is meant to give an idea of where to go for some invaluable help from parents who struggle with attachment and trauma-challenged teens.
The organization is called the "Attachment and Trauma Network (ATN)." If you want to go to their website, type in http://www.radzebra.org (http://www.radzebra.org). ATN was created by a mother who adopted some children who were struggling. Nancy Spoolstra was that mom and she was unable to figure out where to go for help. When she eventually found some of the help she needed she began networking in the attachment world and realized that many parents needed some support from other parents. Parents needed a place to look for answers. With that in mind she created ATN and it has been most helpful to hundreds and thousands of families since.
ATN is a true non-profit. There are many links and resources that are free on their site. If you want unlimited access to support groups you can try that out for free for a month or so. Joining costs $35 per year. I believe in what they are doing so much that I joined the board as a volunteer. Take a look at ATN and give me feedback about your thoughts
Nothing like keeping the conversation slanted in your favor, eh, Ken? :rofl:
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CALO,
Disclose who you are and I will disclose who I am.
I've witnessed this. I can tell you names. I want to tell the world the truth about CALO and what I've personally seen. Yes, girls do sit on the laps of the staff and yes, I've personally seen staff "tickling" underage girls. Sucks for you.
Challenge me. I'll meet you in person.
CG
Nobody cares. Keep pissing into the wind if it makes you feel better for. But please, donate some money to fornits.
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Why believe propaganda from those who have created it?
Did anyone believe Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Chang? Idi? Barbra Boxer? or Charles Shumer?
WTF?
CG
Your responses suggest a disgruntled student who did not work on his/her core issues.
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Ha! Ha! Ha!
You meet what????
What does Caleb think about this? Has Caleb met friends he would like to spend time with?
CG
Caleb Cottle is an excellent employee at CALO.
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CALO,
Disclose who you are and I will disclose who I am.
I've witnessed this. I can tell you names. I want to tell the world the truth about CALO and what I've personally seen. Yes, girls do sit on the laps of the staff and yes, I've personally seen staff "tickling" underage girls. Sucks for you.
Challenge me. I'll meet you in person.
CG
You are slandering staff at CALO and making up false accusations.
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CALO,
Let's go...it's time for a fight.
You are a fag, a coward, and a liar.
Step up to the plate and meet me in person.
CG
I will not resort to name calling on this website. You can call Ken Huey if you wish to discuss further issues with him.
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CALO,
Would you like names, faces?
I've been there, I've seen it. You are full of shit. I can testify to it and I will. Test me and you will find out. I have 3 other witnesses that are just willing to tell the truth.
I'm waiting to see you in person.
CG
What are you implying when you say, "I can testify and I will?" I would be glad to discuss your misconceptions over the phone.
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CALO,
Well of course you are going to say it's slanderous. Well, last time I checked, the truth is an adequate defense in MO. Since I'm telling the truth, I have no concerns and don't mind defending my position. That is what I am implying, I'm eager to tell the whole truth, just not in this forum.
What I have seen, I have seen, you can deny it or say whatever you like here and that's OK, but the audience here won't be making the real decisions, will they? Also, I'm not trying to convince anyone here at Fornits of what my truth is. My sole purpose is to find others who've also been wronged and had family members harmed by CALO.
Truth is I have seen things at CALO that just are not right. You apparently are afraid of it and the fact that others have seen it too. Big problem for you I think, if you continue to sling the crap you've been slinging and continue to try & deny + gag the truth.
Yes, I think Caleb probably is an excellent employee and to clarify, nothing is implied about Caleb. But that is not what I asked. I was asking to the effect if he (being such an excellent employee) has had or may have had issues with certain staff at your facility?
Also, would you like to venture an answer for another nagging question? Is CALO aware of any relationships that has occured between former or current staff members and the students, either former or current? And is CALO aware of any relationships between students, either past or present? After all, if CALOs top management is unaware of what may be occuring under their own roof, there are bigger issues here. If they are aware, well that's an entirely new ballgame isn't it?
BTW, I don't have any misconceptions about what I KNOW. But it seems you, do have misconceptions about what I know.
CG
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CALO,
Almost forgot. Thank you for not resorting to the name calling. Now that we have a gentleman on board, I can stop too and maybe a civil exchange can occur.
Nothing aggrevates me more than the dirtbags slinging lies + the name calling. Name calling I can handle (all just a bunch of blowing off steam, which I am guilty of it too, mind you), but geeeeze, the lies too?
That combination just makes me flat out crazy.
CG
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CALO,
Disclose who you are and I will disclose who I am.
I've witnessed this. I can tell you names. I want to tell the world the truth about CALO and what I've personally seen. Yes, girls do sit on the laps of the staff and yes, I've personally seen staff "tickling" underage girls. Sucks for you.
Challenge me. I'll meet you in person.
CG
Curious George,
Please excuse me for jumping into the middle of this exchange between you and “calo” poster.
I was startled to read your statement regarding witnessing girls at CALO being placed on the laps of staff members and what you described as staff “tickling” these girls.
If it would not compromise your/anyone else’s developing case against CALO; please describe the context of what you witnessed.
Were these incidents explained to you (if you asked)? If so, what the hell? Is this something done to the girls under the pretext of therapy? Did these situations involve the same staffer one child or more than one?
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Quest,
I'd really like to help you out, but I can't at this point. I hope you understand and don't hold it against me. I'm on the side of the truth...no matter how ugly it is.
All I can say is that I'm telling the truth and am really annoyed with CALO and their lies + their threats. CALO has a history of this and I'm just not afraid anymore...at all, period...full stop...Ken has done this in the past and he has met someone that will stand up to him face to face.
I'm wondering if the CALO post is going to respond to my questions. I think I have them over the barrel, they didn't expect this one and that is one of the real issues. Wait till the other comes out.
I have lots more to disclose, but don't want to do it here.
CG
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Quest,
I'd really like to help you out, but I can't at this point. I hope you understand and don't hold it against me. I'm on the side of the truth...no matter how ugly it is.
All I can say is that I'm telling the truth and am really annoyed with CALO and their lies + their threats. CALO has a history of this and I'm just not afraid anymore...at all, period...full stop...Ken has done this in the past and he has met someone that will stand up to him face to face.
I'm wondering if the CALO post is going to respond to my questions. I think I have them over the barrel, they didn't expect this one and that is one of the real issues. Wait till the other comes out.
I have lots more to disclose, but don't want to do it here.
CG
Who are you? A former employee? Former student? I am curious, too, about the extreme vendetta you seem to be pursuing.
I have first hand knowledge of CALO and perhaps they are not perfect, but they are certainly not abusive.
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A teenage adoptee struggling to connect with parents and caregivers
:timeout: Whoa, whoa whoa.. What?
It sounds like English is probably your second language, so Im not sure if this means what I think it does. But.. kids who were simply adopted?.... Programs are targeting this as a sole criteria now? Like, you're supposed to help with the fact that they were adopted? Like it's some serious headfuck that you're a teen and were adopted?
Is it just CALO doing this? Is this a new program thing? Send your kid to us since they were adopted?
If this is the case, and Im reading this copy right... wow. I.. uh.
fuck... that's just.... :'(
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Guest,
What do you define as abusive, and how do you know they are not? Enlighten me. If you speak the truth I will listen. If it is the truth, I will admit I am wrong and will go away forever. If it is a lie, I will never stop, ever.
I've already disclosed the nature of my involvement.
The one thing you are failing to ask is "what is the truth"? As opposed to, who I am? Who really cares who I am? Certainly not you. All that matters is that I have a truthful story to tell.
We also are waiting for an answer to my very direct question which no one seems to want to answer.
Why is that being avoided too? Why does CALO lie and threaten parents? Why does CALO want to squash the truth? Why Why Why?
If CALO was sincere about its intentions and therapy, wouldn't they admit to the truth, fix it, make sure it never happens again and live up to the trust of care model they market so assertively and with such enthusiasm? Or are they subject to the same affliction where they believe their own bullshit? I for one would rather know that there are problems that are being addressed rather than ones that are swept under the rug for the appearance of propriety.
Why do you defend them? Are you not aware of what has happened? Have you been kept in the dark? What is YOUR agenda? If you are the attorney, how do you reconcile what is legal vs. what is moral? Didn't they teach business ethics at your university? At what point do you stand up for what is right?
My agenda is finding the truth. No burying it, not gagging it. If I've imagined all that I've seen, I'll gladly seek professional help, but not at your facility, that's for damn sure. But the problem is, I've lived it and I have seen it. So what do you actually know about CALO and what revenue stream are you protecting at the expense of people who really care?
My vendetta is against anyone who tries to silence the truth.
Can you understand now? The nature of this, I think, might be beyond you.
CG
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CALO,
Disclose who you are and I will disclose who I am.
I've witnessed this. I can tell you names. I want to tell the world the truth about CALO and what I've personally seen. Yes, girls do sit on the laps of the staff and yes, I've personally seen staff "tickling" underage girls. Sucks for you.
Challenge me. I'll meet you in person.
CG
Curious George,
Please excuse me for jumping into the middle of this exchange between you and “calo” poster.
I was startled to read your statement regarding witnessing girls at CALO being placed on the laps of staff members and what you described as staff “tickling” these girls.
If it would not compromise your/anyone else’s developing case against CALO; please describe the context of what you witnessed.
Were these incidents explained to you (if you asked)? If so, what the hell? Is this something done to the girls under the pretext of therapy? Did these situations involve the same staffer one child or more than one?
Believe me, Curious George is just pulling your chain. If anything that he says was actually true he wouldnt be here on fornits talking about it he would be talking to the police. He would love to slam a program and put a spot light on them but he has nothing or he would have done something already. I see this talk all the time here.
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Well guest,
As usual you are full of excriment from the transferrence therapy.
We all know the police, DCFS or others won't do something about this, or at least anything meaningful other than taking a report. No big deal! We all know why CALO is located in Missouri too, go figure.
What I have I have and you won't get it out of me here. You still have not addressed the questions or spoke the truth. Any particular reason? That tells us how much you are full of shit.
I'm saving what I have for the right people.
CG
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CALO,
Disclose who you are and I will disclose who I am.
I've witnessed this. I can tell you names. I want to tell the world the truth about CALO and what I've personally seen. Yes, girls do sit on the laps of the staff and yes, I've personally seen staff "tickling" underage girls. Sucks for you.
Challenge me. I'll meet you in person.
CG
CG the difference is that CALO may see the going ons all the time there at the school and knows this isn’t something that goes on there. You have seen a snap shot in time and are judging an entire school or industry based on your snap shot. I think we can probably believe that what you say did happen but based on what we know and reading the thread it isn’t something the school (CALO) encourages or endorses.
I think we have all read enough to know that if a kid is fondled in a school setting then it wont be too long before it hits the media. And you don’t seem to be pro program so if you are sitting on information which could damage a program then it is likely fabricated.
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CG the difference is that CALO may see the going ons all the time there at the school and knows this isn’t something that goes on there. You have seen a snap shot in time and are judging an entire school or industry based on your snap shot. I think we can probably believe that what you say did happen but based on what we know and reading the thread it isn’t something the school (CALO) encourages or endorses.
I think we have all read enough to know that if a kid is fondled in a school setting then it wont be too long before it hits the media. And you don’t seem to be pro program so if you are sitting on information which could damage a program then it is likely fabricated.
first you're an "AARC Expert", now you're a "CALO Expert". I think we all know just how much your advice is worth.
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Guest,
Fabricated...um...no. Sitting on the info....um....yes. Media has their time and place but it's not now. If you have an ounce of brains you should already know why. If I have to explain it, then you're probably not worth speaking to.
As far as damaging their reputation, I have no desire to damage their reputation. I don't mind at all, however, exposing the lies and the B.S. as it applies to my personal situation and what I have experienced. This isn't a smear campaign, though some would like to think so, this is a quest for the TRUTH. From what I've seen and experienced, CALO is doing whatever it can to stop the truth from getting out, aren't they? Sends a pretty clear message if you ask me.
As far as the Isolated instance, what makes you think it's isolated? If it has happened more than once, then it's not isolated. By the way, notice how no one from CALO wants to answer my very direct questions? Wonder why?
Thanks for the proper spelling of judgment though.
CG
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Curious G,
I went round and round with the "fornits trolls" for hours over other issues. The trolls will use tactics to prevent you from posting on this website again. They are doing this for kicks and giggles. You will get your day in court provided your statements are true.
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Definitions of Internet-Troll on the Web:
* In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community,
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CG the difference is that CALO may see the going ons all the time there at the school and knows this isn’t something that goes on there. You have seen a snap shot in time and are judging an entire school or industry based on your snap shot. I think we can probably believe that what you say did happen but based on what we know and reading the thread it isn’t something the school (CALO) encourages or endorses.
I think we have all read enough to know that if a kid is fondled in a school setting then it wont be too long before it hits the media. And you don’t seem to be pro program so if you are sitting on information which could damage a program then it is likely fabricated.
first you're an "AARC Expert", now you're a "CALO Expert". I think we all know just how much your advice is worth.
I have read enough here to know that CALO is not thewho or a clone of him/her. Different writting style
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Guest,
What do you define as abusive, and how do you know they are not? Enlighten me. If you speak the truth I will listen. If it is the truth, I will admit I am wrong and will go away forever. If it is a lie, I will never stop, ever.
I've already disclosed the nature of my involvement.
The one thing you are failing to ask is "what is the truth"? As opposed to, who I am? Who really cares who I am? Certainly not you. All that matters is that I have a truthful story to tell.
We also are waiting for an answer to my very direct question which no one seems to want to answer.
Why is that being avoided too? Why does CALO lie and threaten parents? Why does CALO want to squash the truth? Why Why Why?
If CALO was sincere about its intentions and therapy, wouldn't they admit to the truth, fix it, make sure it never happens again and live up to the trust of care model they market so assertively and with such enthusiasm? Or are they subject to the same affliction where they believe their own bullshit? I for one would rather know that there are problems that are being addressed rather than ones that are swept under the rug for the appearance of propriety.
Why do you defend them? Are you not aware of what has happened? Have you been kept in the dark? What is YOUR agenda? If you are the attorney, how do you reconcile what is legal vs. what is moral? Didn't they teach business ethics at your university? At what point do you stand up for what is right?
My agenda is finding the truth. No burying it, not gagging it. If I've imagined all that I've seen, I'll gladly seek professional help, but not at your facility, that's for damn sure. But the problem is, I've lived it and I have seen it. So what do you actually know about CALO and what revenue stream are you protecting at the expense of people who really care?
My vendetta is against anyone who tries to silence the truth.
Can you understand now? The nature of this, I think, might be beyond you.
CG
Geez, you are weird - I asked a simple question to see if you are a credible "witness."
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I stated, "You [CG] will get your day in court provided your statements are true" in this thread. Why don't we leave it at that?
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Guest,
Fabricated...um...no. Sitting on the info....um....yes. Media has their time and place but it's not now. If you have an ounce of brains you should already know why. If I have to explain it, then you're probably not worth speaking to.
As far as damaging their reputation, I have no desire to damage their reputation. I don't mind at all, however, exposing the lies and the B.S. as it applies to my personal situation and what I have experienced.
CG
Curious, you may not be aware just how crazy you sound. People with a half-way rational argument would present at least SOME facts, SOME evidence. And of course tell us what makes it reliable evidence. Of course, you could take the further step and come forward with your real name and credentials.
As it is, all we get from you is "I'll show THEM -- some day I'll GET you mothers and show you can't mess with ME!" That's the sound of it, anyway. And the truly paranoid-sounding, truth-avoiding, "If you have an ounce of brains you should already know why. If I have to explain it, then you're probably not worth speaking to." Whoa ...
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Guest,
Fabricated...um...no. Sitting on the info....um....yes. Media has their time and place but it's not now. If you have an ounce of brains you should already know why. If I have to explain it, then you're probably not worth speaking to.
As far as damaging their reputation, I have no desire to damage their reputation. I don't mind at all, however, exposing the lies and the B.S. as it applies to my personal situation and what I have experienced.
CG
Curious, you may not be aware just how crazy you sound. People with a half-way rational argument would present at least SOME facts, SOME evidence. And of course tell us what makes it reliable evidence. Of course, you could take the further step and come forward with your real name and credentials.
As it is, all we get from you is "I'll show THEM -- some day I'll GET you mothers and show you can't mess with ME!" That's the sound of it, anyway. And the truly paranoid-sounding, truth-avoiding, "If you have an ounce of brains you should already know why. If I have to explain it, then you're probably not worth speaking to." Whoa ...
I take it this disturbs you, Wonder Man...
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Pursuant to CG irrational thinking, every Fornits Home for Wayward Web Fora member who supports CALO is a "motherfucker that should die in hell." :roflmao:
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Why believe propaganda from those who have created it?
Did anyone believe Hitler? Stalin? Mao? Chang? Idi? Barbra Boxer? or Charles Shumer?
WTF?
CG
Your responses suggest a disgruntled student who did not work on his/her core issues.
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CALO,
Disclose who you are and I will disclose who I am.
I've witnessed this. I can tell you names. I want to tell the world the truth about CALO and what I've personally seen. Yes, girls do sit on the laps of the staff and yes, I've personally seen staff "tickling" underage girls. Sucks for you.
Challenge me. I'll meet you in person.
CG
You are slandering staff at CALO and making up false accusations.
Truth is a defense to slander. If you really feel it's slander, bring a suit. I dare ya!
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CALO,
Would you like names, faces?
I've been there, I've seen it. You are full of shit. I can testify to it and I will. Test me and you will find out. I have 3 other witnesses that are just willing to tell the truth.
I'm waiting to see you in person.
CG
What are you implying when you say, "I can testify and I will?" I would be glad to discuss your misconceptions over the phone.
How 'bout in a court of law??
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Wonder Man,
How ridiculous are you if you think I'm going to provide this to you? What possible purpose would it serve besides providing all the necessary info to the opposition?
The information you expect is reserved for my attorneys and the courts, not you, so get used to disappointment.
If I sound crazy, I'm crazy enough to know when you are hunting, you conserve your ammo and wait for the kill shot. Also, if someone chooses to sue me, boy are they in for a nasty surprise.
Since it appears you are on a fishing expedition, would you like to comment on some rumors circulating in the legal community in MO?
We've heard rumblings that CALO might currently be under investigation by the state. Is this true? Care to comment?
CG
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CG, we might hate each other, but some honest advice here: Don't get suckered into this shit. If you're involved in legal action and your lawyers have advised you to STFU, seriously, just STFU. It's just trolling and not worth the reply.
And if CALO really is getting investigated by the state, the Missouri state investigators can compare procedural notes with Oregon's DHS on how to do this right.
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Curious George = ::fullofshit::
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Where is Curious Cunt at? He is feeding Ken Huey information about this website.
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Where is Curious Cunt at? He is feeding Ken Huey information about this website.
And what ever could he tell him, that Ken cannot find on his own, by merely pointing his browser at Fornits? :D
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I think Curious George is Ken Huey.
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You say you hear "rumors" and "rumblings" about Calo, Curious George? Do you hear them during the day, or just in the middle of the night?
People who are building a case with "information ... reserved for... attorneys and the courts" rarely bluster and blather in public. They know it compromises the credibility of their testimony.
Finally, isn't it curious, George, that the school you choose to target is touted by educational consultants, including some who publish their findings on the Web, as one of the most effective of its kind in the country.
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Finally, isn't it curious, George, that the school you choose to target is touted by educational consultants, including some who publish their findings on the Web, as one of the most effective of its kind in the country.
Lol. Best back that up with some evidence, if you will, Wonder Man ... 'cuz I shall as hell ain't heard about it!
Not sure if you're privy to this, but ... "educational consultants" are generally about as unbiased a source as your local encyclopedia salesman is regarding the tomes he's selling to you for your intellectual edification. Whether ya call it a commission, kickback, incentive, or simply "a token of appreciation," there's money and/or benefits that usually change hands in an indirect or even direct fashion that render the info conveyed a tad less than pure.
To put it simply: filling beds is an Ed Con's binnis ...or bread 'n' butter, if you will.
There's a lot more at stake when it comes to your kid's long-term psychological well-being, than there is regarding the quality of encyclopedic entry.
Buyer beware.
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Seriously, nobody cares about CG's kid. He probably does not have one. Therefor, CG is "The Who."
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Finally, isn't it curious, George, that the school you choose to target is touted by educational consultants, including some who publish their findings on the Web, as one of the most effective of its kind in the country.
Lol. Best back that up with some evidence, if you will, Wonder Man ... 'cuz I shall as hell ain't heard about it!
Not sure if you're privy to this, but ... "educational consultants" are generally about as unbiased a source as your local encyclopedia salesman is regarding the tomes he's selling to you for your intellectual edification. Whether ya call it a commission, kickback, incentive, or simply "a token of appreciation," there's money and/or benefits that usually change hands in an indirect or even direct fashion that render the info conveyed a tad less than pure.
To put it simply: filling beds is an Ed Con's binnis ...or bread 'n' butter, if you will.
There's a lot more at stake when it comes to your kid's long-term psychological well-being, than there is regarding the quality of encyclopedic entry.
Buyer beware.
So looks like you are not really interested to see me "back that up with some evidence,"
because you've got that path mined already. It wouldn't matter to you which or how many educational consultants I named, because "'educational consultants' are generally about as unbiased a source as your local encyclopedia salesman ... there's money and/or benefits ...." So, damned if I do, damned if I don't.
But I do like what you say at the end, Ursus: "There's a lot more at stake when it comes to your kid's long-term psychological well-being ...." As it happens, I AM concerned about my kid's long-term psychological well-being. That is precisely who I am, a guardian looking for an optimum environment for a bright kid who has been deeply wounded by abuse and neglect throughout much of his life. We have been doing our best to take over, and our best has been very good but not enough. Do you or anyone else listening have some constructive and responsible recommendations of a better environment than Calo? They would really be most welcome.
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No, you're an obvious shill.
Thanks for playing.
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Wonder Man,
Seriously, Ursus is 100% correct. I've dealt with several consultants and they are only interested in one thing...cash.
After they are paid, they tend to go away no matter what your or your child's pressing needs may be. That is unless you are willing to fork over more cash. Remeber some of the consultants have kids in these schools and either are paid directly for their services or get a month or two of free tuition for their kid.
You are like many of us, desperately looking for solutions to help your child or your adopted/foster child, looking for the professionals to help, provide a solution, give you answers or more tools to deal with the child. You need to be prepared for the truth, and the truth is that no-one will care for your child like you will, period!!! (assuming that is you really love them)!!!
No matter what the past, or the abuse, because we have dealt with it all...and I mean it all, it can be fixed if you and the child are willing. The trick is, both of you need to be willing to work it out. If one isn't, it doesn't matter if you send your kid to Mars, it won't work until both are willing...there is your profound advice.
You need to look for solutions within your own household, there are other alternatives if the child is at risk if you are in fear of a tragedy or the child may hurt themselves or others. I really don't care what the professionals say, in many cases they are just flat out wrong, or have ulterior motives....like....separating you with your CASH.
The ugly truth is the trust of care only lasts as long as the cash keeps flowing. You are aware that your child only gets miniminal actual licensed therapy, right? Approx. 90% of the the time is spent doing other activities, including custodial and landscaping duties. So are you OK with your child providing captive labor to this school while you are forking over a very substantial sum of money? Oh wait, I thought the whole ideal was actual therapy, not labor camps or summer camp, right?
I can't tell you right now what worked for us, but it definately wasn't CALO, no matter what the professionals said or how well they pushed their marketing propaganda. There are others like me too. After all our experiences telling you otherwise, testimonials if you will from those that have been there. Why would you believe some moron "professional" lining their own pockets at yours and your childs expense?
I don't have anything to sell you like these so called "professionals", but I will have the guts to tell you the truth.
As far as my strategies and motives....leave that to me if you please....I'm a big person...I also appreciate much of the advice and I do know what I'm doing....I've considered all the ramifications and will take a calculated risk to expose my truth. You also need to consider that I feel it is my duty to inform others of the truth so they won't be hurt by these "professionals" like we have.
CG
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Wonder Man,
Almost forgot. No, I didn't make up the rumblings in the middle of the night. I don't do this kind of crap.
The information came to me directly from attorneys in the Lake of the Ozark area. I can say it is second hand, but it did come from an attorney who has no reason to lie.
Check it out for yourself. I trust you have the intelligence and the ability if you are really concerned. Also don't just stop because the state won't confirm or deny. Remember you are a nobody to them. So show some backbone and hire a local attorney and have them confirm or deny it for you, it's worth the expense and peace of mind either way. After all, isn't your child worth it?
Finally, when you ultimately see the truth or have experienced it, by that time you may come to be on our side. When that happens I'll make sure you know how to contact me so you can actually do something about it.
CG
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Curious George is Ken Huey from CALO. You should be careful when communicating with him.
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So looks like you are not really interested to see me "back that up with some evidence,"
because you've got that path mined already. It wouldn't matter to you which or how many educational consultants I named, because "'educational consultants' are generally about as unbiased a source as your local encyclopedia salesman ... there's money and/or benefits ...." So, damned if I do, damned if I don't.
Lol. Not so fast. Some are assuredly worse than others! :D There's even a forum set up on fornits for those types: EdCons and referring organizations and agencies (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=40). Although... it's probably not up to date.
I don't know exactly what these Ed Cons you refer to have written about, but if any of them are making lots of references to diagnoses of "Attachment Disorder," ya got a big fat warning sign right there. Technically, there's no such thing. There's Reactive Attachment Disorder, but it's occurrence is quite rare. What's more likely to be case is that kids have attachment issues, which are usually secondary to some other problem.
Irregardless of what you are dealing with, relying on a third party organization to solve this kind of problem is the last thing you want to do. The key relationship is between parent and child, and there really aren't any stand-in actors that can play any of those parts. As the American Psychiatric Association's Position Paper on RAD (http://http://www.psych.org/Departments/EDU/Library/APAOfficialDocumentsandRelated/PositionStatements/200205.aspx) clearly states:
Children with RAD will benefit most from an individualized treatment plan that will usually include work with the child's family to help them foster an attachment to their child. Except when complicating factors arise, hospitalization is generally contraindicated since the treatment goal is fostering an attachment between child and parent.[/list]
This position paper also states: "There are no simple solutions or magic answers."
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This poster put it better than I can. Follow the link for some more discussion along these same lines:
Providing a secure environment of consistency and love cannot not be outsourced. Farming an at risk kid out to place like CALO or to Beauvais' Well Spring Foundation and the like cannot provide the recommended "whole family treatment options". Considering the causes of RAD, for many of these children being uprooted again amounts to re-victimization.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23063&p=344406#p344406 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23063&p=344406#p344406)