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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Carey on September 01, 2003, 12:22:00 PM
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Subj: [Trekkers] IECA Conference
Date: 10/12/02 2:14:57 PM Central Daylight Time
From: intrepid-l@fully-baked.org (http://mailto:intrepid-l@fully-baked.org)
To: intrepid-l@fully-baked.org
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Independent Educational Consultants Association Conference. Nov. 7-9 in Washington, DC. Let's pray the sniper situation is resolved by then.
It is open to all in the Industry. One day is all Boarding Schools and the other day is all Specialty Programs. I plan on meeting many that I have spoken to and represent. I have been in this industry, going on 4 years now, and placed over 100 children successfully, as well as visited over 15 schools. That is what qualifies me as a CEP. Certified Educational Planner. Huh! Donna had this planned for me and I am doing my best.
Steve Bozak, an IECA member, actually told me personally, I am a more qualified CEP than many of the IECA members! And I know parents think so. Steve has continually asked me to move to NY to work for him, but I love PURE and I love Florida! As I was having my new cards made up for our new address, and BBB status, Steve told me to be sure to add CEP. He is truly the only EC that I would ever trust.
Anyway, Lon Woodbury, Tom Crooke and all the stuffy IECA members will be there, but I am going to meet all the schools and programs. I am bringing 2 other representatives of PURE also. So I won't be alone in this bee's nest! BTW: WWASP always sends a rep too....can't wait to see who that is....
Is there a connection?
Is this how one becomes a Certified Educational Planner? Hate to tell ya, I would trust other parents with kids in programs more than I would trust the likes of individuals such as this. (However, it would take more than just other parents testimonials to convince me a program was safe and providing what my kids may be deemed to need.)
Interesting don't ya think!
Don't we all think parents need to be aware of the so called expertise these individuals profess to hold. I do!
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If I'm to believe that Sue Scheff wrote this then she is admitting she has no personal experience with "many" of the schools she "represents other than phone calls?"
Certified would normally and ethically indicate that person has taken a course, testing, etc., to obtain the designation. Yes, she may be more qualified, but not certified. Did she ever actually become legally certified?
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Wake up and smell the money, parents. That's what this industry is all about and WHY the number of referral services is growing so quickly nobody knows for sure how many of these non-regulated (and unlicensed) businesses are in operation.
ISAC are you listening????
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This is quite interesting! Seems like Sue has decided that ethics are not a part of her life, at least when it comes to helping families.
But that is apparent in both the court document http://www.purerebuttal.com (http://www.purerebuttal.com) and also on her website.
When I was searching for a program I came across her site and it felt like some sort of vendetta. The negativity really turned me off, not only that, but the purpose, I felt, was not in helping parents,but to discredit a program - How the hell did she ever get a BBB status? That really needs to be challenged.
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I do not think it is hard to get the BBB status. I think holding on to it could be the issue.
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I wonder what some of the others mentioned in this post, the other IECA members, think about what Sue has to say about them? Mutual adoration?
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On 2003-09-01 16:05:00, Carey wrote:
"I do not think it is hard to get the BBB status. I think holding on to it could be the issue. "
Yup, that is definitly an issue.
:wave:
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Carey,
Your Jealousy of Sue Scheff is so blantantly apparent.
Get a new subject to harp on.
Did you ask Sue's permission to post her confidential email? Your lack of integrity is apparent also.
Does defamation sound familiar.
You are one dumb woman.
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Let me show you all who the above post is from. Look at the time this email below was sent to me and the time Christine posted the above statement. By the way Christine is on Sue's listserv.
Subj: Violating Confidentiality agreements again!
Date: 9/2/03 10:15:22 PM Central Daylight Time
From: CristineMocha
To: Careycbock
Carey , You are so stupid it's pathetic.
Subj: [Trekkers] IECA Conference
Date: 10/12/02 2:14:57 PM Central Daylight Time
From: intrepid-l@fully-baked.org (http://mailto:intrepid-l@fully-baked.org)
To: intrepid-l@fully-baked.org
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Independent Educational Consultants Association Conference. Nov. 7-9 in Washington, DC. Let's pray the sniper situation is resolved by then.
It is open to all in the Industry. One day is all Boarding Schools and the other day is all Specialty Programs. I plan on meeting many that I have spoken to and represent. I have been in this industry, going on 4 years now, and placed over 100 children successfully, as well as visited over 15 schools. That is what qualifies me as a CEP. Certified Educational Planner. Huh! Donna had this planned for me and I am doing my best.
Steve Bozak, an IECA member, actually told me personally, I am a more qualified CEP than many of the IECA members! And I know parents think so. Steve has continually asked me to move to NY to work for him, but I love PURE and I love Florida! As I was having my new cards made up for our new address, and BBB status, Steve told me to be sure to add CEP. He is truly the only EC that I would ever trust.
Anyway, Lon Woodbury, Tom Crooke and all the stuffy IECA members will be there, but I am going to meet all the schools and programs. I am bringing 2 other representatives of PURE also. So I won't be alone in this bee's nest! BTW: WWASP always sends a rep too....can't wait to see who that is....
Is there a connection?
Is this how one becomes a Certified Educational Planner? Hate to tell ya, I would trust other parents with kids in programs more than I would trust the likes of individuals such as this. (However, it would take more than just other parents testimonials to convince me a program was safe and providing what my kids may be deemed to need.
Christine, who's the stupid one?
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Sounds like Mocha could use a little reality in her cup of java cuz she is definitly asleep at the switch. Good work, Carey!
:wave:
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Oh, Carey, oh, Carey....you of all people know the great depth of despair Mocha has suffered. What possible justification could you dredge up in your muddled mind of garbage, filth, hate, and miguided passion?
This is the most horrific use of personal mail for yet-another of Scarey Carey's vendettas. Please consider the source of this material, people. No one deserves raw salt poured into wounds so Carey can have another of her insane "I told you so"s".
Carey is so filled with hate she will stoop to levels way worse than the sane person would consider. She is bordering on insane...no knowing the difference between right and wrong.
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::boohoo::
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YOU Carey YOu are the stupid one.
Silly woman! Is that suppose to bother me?
Get real..
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This could go on forever - Carey yet again exposes PURES true colors and they (all the PURE supporters) attack by saying she's crazy, scarey, blah, blah blah. Good job Carey!
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Anon,
"Good job Carey" for what? For her lack of boundaries? Her lack of integrity?
I never suggested she is crazy.
Quite the opposite. Carey knows exactly what she is doing. It's deliberate. She has been defaming Pure,Sue Scheff for months . She's jealous. Nothing more or less. Everything else is smoke to hide the real truth of her anger at Pure.
Ever sense she was ask to go for violating confidentiality agreements. She's doing it again. Whats the purpose? "to help the kids?" Bullshit.
I've watched her act. It not impressive.
That you admire her Anon speaks for itself.
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Yes, this could go on forever, and probably will, given the ulta-vindictive agenda of the pure people. Nevertheless, Carey IS to be commended for standing up to their abuse and giving this group and their leader a well-deserved dose of their own medicine, bitter as it undoubtedly is.
:tup:
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On 2003-09-02 21:01:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Oh, Carey, oh, Carey....you of all people know the great depth of despair Mocha has suffered. What possible justification could you dredge up in your muddled mind of garbage, filth, hate, and miguided passion?
This is the most horrific use of personal mail for yet-another of Scarey Carey's vendettas. Please consider the source of this material, people. No one deserves raw salt poured into wounds so Carey can have another of her insane "I told you so"s".
Carey is so filled with hate she will stoop to levels way worse than the sane person would consider. She is bordering on insane...no knowing the difference between right and wrong. "
Yeah, well maybe the Pure supporters should consider the source of their own vendetta and WHO REALLY BENEFITS from your "kill the messenger" mentality. (Hint: It ain't the kids you purport to care so much about)
:roll:
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Sue/Pure - Me thinks that this Forum is doing a little damage to your livlihood! Funny thing is, you created this mess you're in and you're to blame others for what you started?? Put the accountability, or lack of it, where it belongs.
Bye, bye ::cheers::
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I sent my child to a school that Sue Scheff recommended and it was awful. There was no supervision, it was filthy, poorly run, and should be discredited. Needless to say my child no longer attends. I know Sue forces the schools/programs she recommends to pay her nicely for each referral, or she stops referring them to parents. It is all about the money with her, and nothing about the kids and families as she claims. I am not in this business nor have I ever posted here, just a parent sharing an experience so everyone will know the truth about what a phoney she is.
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Can you tell me some of the schools PURE recomends? I don't know if you can or not. I've asked again and again and never gotten an answer. I would think that if it were legally proprietary info, they'd just say so. But they don't say anything at all.
To seek out the best through the whole Union, we must resort to the information which from the best of men, acting disinterestedly and with the purest motives, is sometimes incorrect.
Thomas Jefferson Letter to Elias Shipman and others of New Haven, July 12, 1801.