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Fornits Survivors – Fornits the Wayward Web Fora attempts to destroy Troubled Teen Industry
Fornits Survivors – Fornits the Wayward Web Fora attempts to destroy Troubled Teen Industry
August 9th 2009 -- Craig Rogers
Fornits Survivors – Fornits the Wayward Web Fora
Hate-sites of the troubled teen industry
Abundant Life Academy is a survivor of Troubled Teen Industry’s attack-dogs, Fornit’s the Wayward Web For a, HEAL Online, and ISAC, having survived the their violations and abuses. As a matter of fact, ALA, and our sturdy staff, have triumphantly prevailed against the vicious personal attacks from Fornit’s and their cohorts, HEAL Online, and ISAC. Their goal was to violate our civil rights, stop us from engaging in the freedom of speech, and to stop our right to exercise our faith. Fortunately, through the onslaught of personal attacks from these radical fundamentalist right-wing groups (Fornit’s, HEAL Online, and ISAC), Abundant Life Academy has actually grown to be stronger. Fornits Wayward Web For has dramatically helped us to become more successful. HEAL Online has helped ALA to be more diligent and faithful to our principles. And ISAC has helped our parents to be more leery of the “sheep in wolves clothing”. Inadvertently, these intolerant hate groups have used their terror tactics to help us, and to advance our cause.
At ALA we teach our students to be seekers of the truth, to stand up against the intolerance of the ignorant, and to be “free minded thinkers”. We encourage our students to refusing to be conformed to those who oppress freedoms, and to stay true to their own uniqueness. At ALA we teach our students to advocate for the freedoms and liberties of all people, even those who oppose us, especially those who attempt to suppress us. At Abundant Life Academy our students come to understand that freedom is a duty, a responsibility, and a worthy cause worth dying for. More importantly, protecting our freedom has nothing to do with guarding OUR personal freedoms; it has everything to do with protecting the freedom of other people, groups, and organizations, even the freedom of those who wish for our demise. Our place is to not judge the attitudes, values, and beliefs of those who hate us, but to stand in the gap to ensure that they have the right to express themselves, even if their expression is to harm us. Freedom and liberty is extremely important to true Americans. Many good people died protecting our freedom and our honor is to make sure that ALL Americans have the opportunity to live in freedom.
Parents of troubled teens seeking Christian boarding schools for their troubled child are often wounded, confused, and in need of the guidance from those they can trust. The experience of being a parent of a rebellious teen is extremely chaotic. These folks need to be supported, and given the truth about their options. It is a time of confusion and crisis. They need real, accurate, unbiased information. Many of us have had to endure hardships, traumas, loss, and have been hurt deeply. If you are a person who is wounded, emotionally scared, and you are seeking the love of God to bring forth the only measure of healing that matters, you are filled with wisdom and your faith will set you free. Abundant Life Academy Blog is a place to share hope, love, and real concern for others. It is a place of healing, acknowledging that Jesus is the only answer to emotional and spiritual wounding. We don’t force people to believe as we do, and we certainly don’t attack those who have different beliefs and opinions.
However, if you are a person that has been wounded and you are not looking for help, but instead have decided to visit our blog just to spew hate, seek vengeance, and attack others, then you are a “victim” and in need of immediate help – but not here. If you are a person who enjoys lying, falsely accusing innocent people, and you don’t mind being a hypocritical coward then we ask that you don’t attempt to post any public statement on Abundant Life Academy Blog. There are several websites that recruit people filled with hate and vial (Fornits, HEAL Online, and ISAC). Theses sites exist for the sole purpose of hurting innocent people. You’re welcomed there. Please visit www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com), www.heal-online.org (http://www.heal-online.org), or www.isaccorp.org (http://www.isaccorp.org). At Fornits and Heal Online they will take you in with open arms. However, they do expect some thing from you. They do have standards, albeit weird and twisted standards. To post on Fornits or Heal Online you must never oppose the moderators (or you will be viciously attacked), never tell the truth, always use foul/vial/offensive language, be an advocate for marijuana legalization, and be an empathetic apologists for pedophiles, transgender’s, and others sexual deviants.
Fornits, Heal Online, and ISAC have a clear agenda. Their goal has never been to protect children from possible abuse. They have no commitment to protecting children at all. There is no evidence or proof that they have ever done anything to protect a child. Their agenda is clear, they are against any and all schools or programs; in their perspective there is no such thing as a “good” school or program. If a school exists it means that it is bad by default. Their only agenda is to spew vindictive poisonous, reek havoc, and get their insatiable appetite for revenge satisfied. Especially the people behind Fornit’s and HEAL Online. To know the trauma that they endured teens really helps to understand their victim mentality. They were truly victims, and as with all victims they act like they are helpless, and that they can’t help themselves. The hurt is real, the wounds are deep, and there is not enough marijuana I the world to cover it up (both Fornits and HEAL Online are zealous radical proponents of legalizing marijuana for personal use).
Regardless of what vial offensive lies Fornit’s and their partner’s throw at us, we commit to stay vigilant, and to continue to fight for the continued liberties of all Americans. We believe in what our founding Father’s sacrificed-all for, and that is the freedom’s that make the United States the greatest country on earth. And, we commit to not only fighting to protect these freedoms for all people, and all nations, but we also commit to giving a special place in our hearts to fight that much harder for the right for Fornit’s to express their opinions, and believe what they think is truth to them. Even if Fornit’s uses their freedom and civil rights to bring about false accusations, lies, and untruths against ALA, we pledge to refrain from acting in kind, refrain from falling in to the temptation that would ultimately devalue the First Amendment of the US Constitution. In doing so, our stand to defend all Americans will make good for all spilt blood of the great American’s who died fighting for freedom. Therefore, Fornit’s, HEAL Online, and ISAC’s, we salute you, and proclaim that even your intolerant, right-wing fanaticism is worthy of our defense for freedom.
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Fornits, Heal Online, and ISAC have a clear agenda
Well, I would hope so, although technically, fornits is a forum. It is members of said forum who have the agenda, not the website itself.
Certainly much better than hiding your agenda, right? But programs know nothing about that.
Regardless of what vial offensive lies Fornit’s and their partner’s throw at us,
Jesus hates spelling mistakes, and using apostrophes for plurals (notice none here) is like giving Satan a blow job.
Especially since VILE is misspelled several times. You are Christians, and you dont know how to spell vile?
I know I know, it just bothers me ok? These people are writing copy for publication. NO EXCUSE.
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I think it'd be even worse if they didn't have Microsoft Word or some other spellcheck. Homonym misuse ("vial", lol) abounds.
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I think it'd be even worse if they didn't have Microsoft Word or some other spellcheck. Homonym misuse ("vial", lol) abounds.
I didn't even realize the extent of the homophone issue until I got on the internet. The worst thing is, it's contagious. I've caught myself fucking up a your/you're or a their/they're a couple of times and was like WTF???? I *never* would have made that mistake before. The web is making me stupid (er).... or more stupid.. whichever is correct.
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Jesus hates spelling mistakes, and using apostrophes for plurals (notice none here) is like giving Satan a blow job.
Especially since VILE is misspelled several times. You are Christians, and you dont know how to spell vile?
I know I know, it just bothers me ok? These people are writing copy for publication. NO EXCUSE.
more stupiderYour message is right on, but you're experiencing some braxton hicks with your contractions.
:agree:
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Why are they not mentioning Spft? After all the wiki page they commented on (http://http://www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/fornitswiki/index.php/Talk:Abundant_Life_Academy) was located on our webpage.
We even created a thread here on Fornits as reply (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28262).
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Jesus hates spelling mistakes, and using apostrophes for plurals (notice none here) is like giving Satan a blow job.
Especially since VILE is misspelled several times. You are Christians, and you dont know how to spell vile?
I know I know, it just bothers me ok? These people are writing copy for publication. NO EXCUSE.
more stupiderYour message is right on, but you're experiencing some braxton hicks with your contractions.
:agree:
True that. Im lazy as hell with apostrophes in contractions. (see there <-) when Im writing in forums or in my journal. i also suck with capitalization.
But then again, Im not writing for something that's gonna be published. I make sure that everything is spic and span in that case.
also, very funny re: braxton hicks. I had no idea what that was and had to look it up. That was definitely most funniest.
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I’m not an Edcon, but my 10 second assessment tells me the little girl in the red dress (http://http://www.geckoandfly.com/tag/optical-illusion/) is an excellent candidate for ALA’s program.
…and Oscar’s right. Know thy enemy ALA!
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Craig Rogers
This is the enemy.. what babyfarming duckpits has he worked for now?
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I laughed for a good while after the fornits is "right-wing" part.
getting to know the enemy:
the ALA response to fornits is just a bunch of badly-edited jumbled incohesive spin. Any parent with a brain would see right through it. ALA resorted to some of the most primitive tactics known......even fox news does better than this.
there is a rule that states the longer a debate continues, the higher the likelihood of there being a hitler or nazi comparison. The same can be applied the debate devolving to name-calling, anti-christian/satanic accusations, un-American accusations, communist or socialist accusations, etc. ALA devolved the debate to the lowest possible level by claiming fornits is so immature, unchristian, extremist and unamerican, while holding themselves up through some highly skewed logic to be the antithesis of the supposed enemy.
side not:
ALA is not the only one guilty of this. it seems all of america has devolved to this level recently (e.g "death panels" "obama=osama"). it's so sad to see. Instead of addressing the core issues in the debate people resort to primitive diversionary tactics - the media/govt because they dont want the people to think, and the people because most of them cant think.
Strategy:
maybe that fits right into ALA's niche. they want gullible, "right-wing" (who are actually left wing moderates but sometimes right wingers, and sometimes sheep, depending on the price of gas and what the pastor said) parents with money, gung-ho americans, jesus-obsessors, to help them populate the school. Their response speaks to them, not to fornits.
In order to take to ALA, you need to adopt their language but avoid primitive tactics such as the ones listed above. Their market is christian parents. The only thing that will turn those parents off is verifiable reports of serious physical abuse resulting in trauma, sexual abuse, and drug activity. You cant pick at their own logic; you have to work within the confines of their skewed logic, otherwise it will turn them off fornits and give ALA more ammunition. defending oneself (fornits) against ALA's response is also a bad idea, as an ignored attack is perceived as a less valid threat than a defended attack. Instead, point out how ALA does not fit in with the mentality of their target market; show them (parents [market]) that ALA are a bunch of lying hypocrites.
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FEAR NOT, FOR I AM IN POSSESSION OF THIS FECES
I SUPPOSE I CAN SPARE A FEW CYCLES ON BASIC GRAMMATICAL ERROR CORRECTION AS WELL
OF MORE QUALITATIVE IMPORTANCE IS ITS LACK OF BASIC COHERENCE
Hated sites of the troubled teen industry
Abundant Life Academy is a victim of our own actions. The revenge takes the form of Fornits, HEAL, and ISAC, who have made repeated violations into our tender bleeding rectums. As a matter of fact, ALA, and our whiny staff, have pathetically failed against the generally accepted truth about us from Fornits and their cohorts, HEAL Online, and ISAC. Their goal was to violate our civil rights, stop us from engaging in the abuse of children, and to stop our misusing religion to fulfill our own fetishes. Fortunately, through the onslaught of personal attacks from these rather ordinary people (Fornits, HEAL Online, and ISAC), Abundant Life Academy has gotten fucking owned. Fornits has dramatically reduced our enrollment. HEAL has cut off everyone but the extremely sick fucks, which helped ALA to be more diligent and faithful to our principles, as those principles can be found in few places outside the Necronomicon. And ISAC has helped parents to be more leery of the wolves in sheep's clothing which is why they're avoiding us. Not surprisingly, these generally normal people have used their rather basic tactics to rip the fucking shit out of us. Why do you think we're spending so much time whining about it here?
At ALA we teach our detainees to be afraid of the truth, to cower from the intolerance of the ignorant, and to perform the act of doublethink. We encourage our students to slavishly lick the boots of those who oppress freedoms, and to conform to the mold we shove them in. At ALA we teach our students to not give a fuck about freedoms and liberties of all people, particularly those who oppose us, especially those who attempt to suppress us. At Abundant Life Academy our students come to understand that slavery is a duty, a responsibility, and a worthy cause worth dying for. More importantly, protecting our slavery has nothing to do with guarding OUR personal slave pit; it has everything to do with protecting the ability of all Jesus-freak groups and organizations to impose slavery on everyone, particularly those who wish for our demise. Our place is to judge the attitudes, values, and beliefs of everyone, and to stand in the gap between retarded and flat-insane to attempt to destroy their right to express themselves, because all expression is to harm us. Slavery and bondage are extremely important to True Americans (tm). Many evil people died protecting our slavery and our honor is to make sure that ALL Americans have the opportunity to live in slavery.
Parents of troubled teens seeking Christian boarding schools for their troubled child are often wounded, fucking stupid, confused, and in need of the guidance from those they can trust, which is why we exploit their vulnerability. The experience of being a parent of a rebellious teen is extremely chaotic, unless of course you're smart enough to realize when you're part of the problem, in which case you probably aren't even reading this. These folks need to be laughed at, and given the truth about their options before they fucking hurt someone, probably their kids. It is a time of confusion and crisis, and ALA makes sure to multiply both. They need real, accurate, unbiased information, and if you think they're going to find that at ALA I have some bad news for you. Many of us have had to endure hardships, traumas, loss, and have been hurt deeply, but apparently not enough because we still have an unbridled bullshit faucet. If you are a person who is wounded, emotionally scarred, and you are seeking the love of God to bring forth the only measure of healing that matters, you are clinging to an imaginary friend and you will die enslaved and alone. Abundant Life Academy Blog is a place to share contempt, hatred, and derision of our own children. It is a little piece of Hell, and our imaginary friend will add to the emotional and spiritual wounding. We force people to believe as we do, and we certainly attack those who have different beliefs and opinions. Shit, what do you think we're doing right now?
However, if you are a person that has been wounded, probably by us, and you are not looking for help, but instead have decided to visit our blog to inform the public of what actually happens at ALA, we will ban you as fast as our fingers can move. If you are a person who enjoys telling the truth, pointing out the crimes of guilty people, and you don’t mind doing actual research then we ask that you don’t attempt to post any public statement on Abundant Life Academy Blog. There are several websites that recruit people filled with at least one vial of sanity (Fornits, HEAL, and ISAC). These sites exist for the sole purpose of keeping kids the hell out of our twisted hands. You’re welcomed there. Please visit http://www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com), http://www.heal-online.org (http://www.heal-online.org), or http://www.isaccorp.org (http://www.isaccorp.org), and YES WE ARE RETARDED ENOUGH TO LINK TO THEM HERE. At Fornits and Heal they will take you in with open arms. However, they do expect something from you. They do have standards, albeit not standards that you're used to if you hang around places like ALA. To post on Fornits or Heal you must be prepared to be viciously attacked by various idiots (as it's an open forum), tell the truth or get repeatedly owned for spewing programmie bullshit, keep a vial of brain bleach handy, realize that pot is leagues away from sadistic child abuse in the "bad things" department, and be at least somewhat open to the brutal, repeated ownage of programmies, infantilists, and other sexual deviants.
Abundant Life Academy has an unclear agenda. Our goal has never been to protect children from possible abuse. We have no commitment to protecting children at all. There is no evidence or proof that we have ever done anything to protect a child. In contrast, their agenda is clear, they are against any and all abusive shitholes; in actuality there is no such thing as a “good” abusive shithole. If a shithole keeps children locked up without due process of any kind it means that it is bad by default; we cannot comprehend what might be wrong with that. Their only agenda is to inform parents of reality, which wreaks havoc on us and gets their insatiable appetite for revenge suppressed for a little while. Especially the people behind Fornits and HEAL Online. To know the trauma that they endured as teens from people just like us really helps to understand their mentality of turning us into the victims this time. They were truly victims, and as with all victims they want to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else, and so they will help themselves to our eventual collapse. The hurt is real, the wounds are deep, and there is not enough marijuana in the world to erase the trauma we've inflicted on them (both Fornits and HEAL are in a growing majority of proponents of legalizing marijuana for personal use).
Regardless of what vials of liquid ownage Fornits and their partners throw at us, we commit to stay vigilant, and to continue to fight for the continued bondage of all Americans. We believe in nothing our Founding Fathers sacrificed-all for, instead holding dear the slave-owning mentality that caused the Civil War. And, we commit to not only fighting to protect this kind of slavery for all people, and all nations, but we also commit to giving a special place in our hearts to fight that much harder against Fornits and stop them from expressing their opinions, and do everything in our power to erase the truth. Even if Fornits uses their freedom and civil rights to let everyone know the reality, facts, and truths against ALA, we pledge to continue to attack them as hard as we can, because we honestly couldn't give half a fuck about First Amendment of the US Constitution. In doing so, we stand to defend all Confederates who spilt blood of the great Americans who died fighting for freedom against people like us. Therefore, Fornits, HEAL, and ISAC, we hate you, and proclaim that even you will fall before our defense of slavery.
I NEVER REALIZED THE WORD "VIAL" WAS SO USEFUL. I MUST OUTPUT IT MORE OFTEN.
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Fortunately, through the onslaught of personal attacks from these radical fundamentalist right-wing groups (Fornit’s, HEAL Online, and ISAC)
"Right Wing"? Jesus boy doesn't know his right from his left, politically. He sure is worked into a lather, what did he get out of his vial?
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Fornits is referred to as far right wing because the owner and admins are all Libertarians politically. They believe that programs should be completely unregulated and that governement shouldn't be involved in people's lives at all. This is repeated many places on this forum, so I think that's the reason, and why it's accurate, that fornits is referred to as far right wing.
There are people who post on this site who believe the government should regulate and shut down programs, but that does not represent the official fornits position of it's owners and operators.
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Fornits is referred to as far right wing because the owner and admins are all Libertarians politically. They believe that programs should be completely unregulated and that governement shouldn't be involved in people's lives at all. This is repeated many places on this forum, so I think that's the reason, and why it's accurate, that fornits is referred to as far right wing.
There are people who post on this site who believe the government should regulate and shut down programs, but that does not represent the official fornits position of it's owners and operators.
actually.....libertarians are on the far left by international and historical political standards, dimwit. The only reason they ally with the republicans is because they share similar fiscal principals, and they are against democrat over-regulation (which is actually an attribute of conservatism). American political pidgeonholes are completely skewed and are constantly fluctuating as opposing fight each other through propaganda. It's completely twisted.
People sometimes confuse political parties with political orientation in the united states. Republicans are not conservatives, democrats are not liberals, and vice versa. The left is not communist, and the right is not anarchist, that's just what the media want you to believe. Neither party is either.
ALA's response, by using such partisan tactics, shows how shallow and idiotic they are, and how they are trying to get a specific demographic. They are trying to make themselves more appealing to a new country that elected obama as president. Obviously, they learned nothing from this and just put on a new costume instead of addressing the core issues within their organization.
and beyond that, your logic is FAIL. Fornits=admins=libertarians=republican=conservative=rightwing just doesnt cut it.
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Fornits is referred to as far right wing because the owner and admins are all Libertarians politically. They believe that programs should be completely unregulated and that governement shouldn't be involved in people's lives at all. This is repeated many places on this forum, so I think that's the reason, and why it's accurate, that fornits is referred to as far right wing.
well i guess you missed the part when Fornits was a feeder-forum for senator miller's GAO hearings and the stop institutionalized child abuse bill around a year and a half ago? there was overwhelming support on fornits for miller's work, both online and in person at the hearings.
or maybe you missed the part where fornits was a crucial player in the lawsuit and bankruptcy of Hidden Lake Academy? they did get crippled through official, government channels afterall....
As far as i know, ginger has never expressed the views you claim. The only people who hold those views you claim we do are che, psy, and a few trolls. mostly everyone else is all for government regulation of the TBS. I mean it's either that, or try to take out each institution one by one brick by brick through bad publicity, which is a waste of time.
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Craig Rogers on free speech
To: Abundant Life <abundantlifeadmissions1@msn.com>
Cc: www.fornits.com (http://www.fornits.com)<http://www.fornits.com/>). She and her group have
slandered me, defamed me and my business, and has harassed our clients. We are seeking remedies through the
courts and contacting you is the last thing we are doing prior to taking you and Ginger to court. My name
is Craig Rogers, and not only has Ginger slandered me, she has also allowed death threats to come against me
and my family. I feel as though my life is in danger and her comments about me and my business, Abundant
Life Academy, must be removed immediately.
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> Jesus is the only answer!
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Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 08:06:02 -0700 (PDT)
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So Craig, what changed yer mind? Hmmmm???? :roflmao:
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Owned!
Wow, looks like that parody was dead-on accurate. We know programmies generally don't tell the truth but is a little consistency so much to ask?
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so, apparently according to craig rogers, attempting to censor free speech is considered left-wing and completely american.....
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All I want to know is this; if Jesus is the only answer, WTF was the question? Or is it more like an expletive? Like, whatever happens, the only response is "Oh Jesus!"
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All I want to know is this; if Jesus is the only answer, WTF was the question? Or is it more like an expletive? Like, whatever happens, the only response is "Oh Jesus!"
I can't speak to what Craig means when he says that Jesus is the only answer, but from my perspective, I would say that if a person lives a life in keeping with the advice and philosophy that Jesus taught, they would have a lot less trouble an aggravation in their lives.The question may be about most any kind of problem a human being faces - if they are able to view it and respond as Jesus' would then they will find the answer to solving the problem. Craig for example, would have a Lot less trouble and aggravation in his life if he looked to Jesus for guidance and followed His example. This ridiculous rant of his is the height of foolishness and is most un-Christ-like - and is very likely to create a great deal of aggravation for him.
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Ok, Buzz, just tell me this. When the rapture comes, can I have the farm? :nods:
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Ok, Buzz, just tell me this. When the rapture comes, can I have the farm? :nods:
Yes you can, but you might have to share - and I hope you would in fact be able to get here and find it useful - just promise me you will not under any circumstance let anyone mark you with anything on your hand or forehead - and that if you should find that these things I go on about have come to pass, you will seriously consider the possibility I'm not a nut bar wakko after all ;)
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I know you're not a nut bar, Buzz. Just have to jag ya once in awhile. :rose:
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ALA discovered the wiki recently.
208.93.181.164 (protip: don't post on the wiki without an account if you don't want your IP address shown. That's just how the software works.) is from Kanab, Utah. Hrm, I wonder who that could be?
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Fornits is referred to as far right wing because the owner and admins are all Libertarians politically. They believe that programs should be completely unregulated and that governement shouldn't be involved in people's lives at all. This is repeated many places on this forum, so I think that's the reason, and why it's accurate, that fornits is referred to as far right wing.
There are people who post on this site who believe the government should regulate and shut down programs, but that does not represent the official fornits position of it's owners and operators.
There is no "official position" of Fornits, as far as I know. In fact, I think Ginger's gone out of her way to state that.
And Fornits being 'right wing'??
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I gotta say that this is pretty sweet. Remember when they used to come on here and tell us that we're so small, so insignificant, we don't matter etc. etc.? Yeah, that's why they dedicate an entire page on their own website to us. That's why Whooter "STICCs" around after all these years. That's why Danny Boy has his panties in a bunch. WE HIT A NERVE!!! What we're saying resonates with compassionate people. It resonates with people who still have their critical thinking skills intact and we are making a difference.
Nice work. And thanks again to Ginger for putting up with all the crap and sticking it out. Fornits is an invaluable resource. :tup: :tup:
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Id like to start out by saying ALA-.............GIVES ME THE SHITS............ and not only is fornits an invaluable resource, it can be a whole shitload of fun,and also border on theraputic!!!!!!!!! Notice how all the shithead programmies end up hiding behind religion? You got ALA......DR.George Ross......and the ever coniving Father/Doctor/virgil miller cassian newton in all his Pseudo Theraputic glory! Did that man of the cloth ever get that crapola er ..um cupola...back up on his roof? Probably would make for a better tax dodge,huh?
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.and the ever coniving Father/Doctor/virgil miller cassian newton in all his Pseudo Theraputic glory! Did that man of the cloth ever get that crapola er ..um cupola...back up on his roof? Probably would make for a better tax dodge,huh?
Nope! We won again!
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He had said that there would be some sort of "civil disobedience" if he lost but we haven't heard a peep out of him so far. Coward. Pussy. Prick. Self-loathing dipshit. Sadistic fuck. Delusional asshole. Sanctimonious asswipe. Child abusing twatwaffle. Insipid douchenozzle.
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Hey you forgot flacid weenie waving butthook,and mammylapping yeastysnizz!!!!!!!! :cheers:
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Hey you forgot flacid weenie waving butthook,and mammylapping yeastysnizz!!!!!!!! :cheers:
Thank you!!! I knew there was at least one or two that I missed! :seg2:
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Fornits is referred to as far right wing because the owner and admins are all Libertarians politically. They believe that programs should be completely unregulated and that governement shouldn't be involved in people's lives at all. This is repeated many places on this forum, so I think that's the reason, and why it's accurate, that fornits is referred to as far right wing.
There are people who post on this site who believe the government should regulate and shut down programs, but that does not represent the official fornits position of it's owners and operators.
Basically this. There is no official Fornits position on anything. Just because Ginger or myself may adhere to those ideals does not mean the rest of the forum does, as you've noted. You're right that they were probably referring to the libertarian slant, though. If you measure left-right as big govt to small govt, respectively, libertarianism would indeed be far to the right.
well i guess you missed the part when Fornits was a feeder-forum for senator miller's GAO hearings and the stop institutionalized child abuse bill around a year and a half ago? there was overwhelming support on fornits for miller's work, both online and in person at the hearings.
And when that fell though, I lost any remaining faith I had in the government.
or maybe you missed the part where fornits was a crucial player in the lawsuit and bankruptcy of Hidden Lake Academy
Libertarians generally do not have a problem with lawsuits. From The Mises Institute (http://http://mises.org/daily/4106):
Such behaviors would be punished by the libertarian society. Upon learning of such maltreatment, many parents would file lawsuits against abusive firms, thus releasing very useful information to other prospective parents.
As far as i know, ginger has never expressed the views you claim.
I can't speak for her but I'm pretty sure she has. If you search you will find. The way I've interpreted her views is that the only positive thing that can come out of the government brewhaha is to draw attention to the issue in the public eye.
I mean it's either that, or try to take out each institution one by one brick by brick through bad publicity, which is a waste of time.
It works if you work at it. Example: Benchmark's enrollment went down 80% after the website I put up about them by their own admission. It's possible they were exaggerating but I doubt they would have gone through the trouble to sue me if websites didn't have a significant affect.
Other websites have accomplished similar goals as well. A significant portion of parents will Google schools before they send their kids off. A website providing compelling evidence of wrongdoing on the part of a school will affect enrollment and can force a place to close down. So can protesting, especially if done regularly in a "siege" mode, such as with KHK/PFC.
All it costs is the willingness to take the small risk of getting SLAPPED, but trust me, it's not that bad. Unless you make stuff up on purpose to hurt them, you have nothing to worry about, and after the Benchmark case, I seriously doubt any other programs will try the same thing. Filing a frivolous lawsuit cost Benchmark over a hundred and fifty thousand dollars in fees paid to our lawyers, plus whatever they spent on theirs. I'd estimate in total it was close to half a million.
Anyway. My point is that government intervention is rarely required to close down programs, and while you wait on that, programs are thriving when you could be working to stop them doing all you can, including websites. I've helped others in the past set up website and would be happy to give help to anybody who needs it.
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well i guess you missed the part when Fornits was a feeder-forum for senator miller's GAO hearings and the stop institutionalized child abuse bill around a year and a half ago? there was overwhelming support on fornits for miller's work, both online and in person at the hearings.
And when that fell though, I lost any remaining faith I had in the government.
The reason it "fell through" is because the bill died in the Senate, along with a fuckload of other bills. The current HCR war has caused the Republicans to go on a full-on rampage with threats to filibuster absolutely everything, and that fucktarded Mormon Harry Reid lets them do it.
Government, like any other organization, only works when it isn't infused with crazy people.