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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Oscar on September 25, 2009, 05:41:48 PM
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He was taken to Diamond Ranch Academy by uniformed Escorts looking like police officers.
Bring Brendan Home, Facebook (http://http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=124940656697)
There are a lot of members.
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I was wondering when this story would get some pub on Fornits. Seriously, this kid's got a freakin' army that's got his back. Alas, it's proving to an entire Florida community that parents have the legal power to abuse their kids by proxy (or at least detain against their will). Too bad DRA isn't an Aspen program. It would have been the 2009 trifecta - humiliation (MBA), death (Sagewalk), and false imprisonment (DRA).
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Been following this story for awhile, I suggested to the lady who contacted me about a month ago to talk to Heal. They've made it an action alert whatever it is they call it at Heal. Has Cafety done anything like this to rally their supporters to assist this kid?
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Why was the detainee sent to DRA? There two sides to this story.
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Who cares? According to the person he was living with at the time he was doing a hell of alot better. Sounds to me like the otherside of the story is DRA and their manipulating his parents with some deadinsaneorinjail horseshit. Obviously they pulled a fast sell on them as he was doing ok, I've talked to one of the people involved where he was living, and he was sorting things out.
So yeah the otherside of the story.. parents being scammed by a program. Not a very original tale as we've all heard it before.
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You have parents who come here (Like myself) and read about these kids coming from good families and being sent away for no apparent reason, like Brendan was. It gives them a little relief that they made the right decision sending their own child. At least they know their kid is there for a reason i.e. wasn’t going to school and was living an at risk life style. Another nice thing (or a bonus)is their children will be exposed to other kids (who aren’t trouble makers) who may have a good influence on them hoping it will rub off.
I feel bad for Brendan for being stuck with lousy parents, but most parents would like to have their kid around someone like him i.e. nice kid, calm, likes to write poetry. Maybe some will rub off. Beats having to send your kid to a program where they would be exposed to druggies and others who are worse than your own child.
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And right next to Brendan to the left you have the kid who is a compulsive fire starter, saw one of those at three springs. Off to the right you have the clown who raped a hooker with a baseball bat, they had one of those at Peninsula Village. Behind him you have the compulsive masturbator who touched his sister's private spot, I saw a guy like that once who was called, "sister fucker" by his entire group.
Maybe if he's really luckily he'll be around the druggies, but the sheer slew of poorly placed kids out there almost ensures that their kids will be thrown in with an unknown number troubled young folks who really need better care than the program promised them and their parents. The programs really can't help it as they are a business and who are they to turn away perfectly good cash?
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And right next to Brendan to the left you have the kid who is a compulsive fire starter, saw one of those at three springs. Off to the right you have the clown who raped a hooker with a baseball bat, they had one of those at Peninsula Village. Behind him you have the compulsive masturbator who touched his sister's private spot, I saw a guy like that once who was called, "sister fucker" by his entire group.
Maybe if he's really luckily he'll be around the druggies, but the sheer slew of poorly placed kids out there almost ensures that their kids will be thrown in with an unknown number troubled young folks who really need better care than the program promised them and their parents. The programs really can't help it as they are a business and who are they to turn away perfectly good cash?
My belief is that those are just stories to scare the parents into bringing them home early, make them feel quilty or scare off prospective parents. If you read all the survivor stories here on fornits you will see that none of them were bad kids. They just caught a tough break with the parents they got stuck with. I never read any stories here where they said they started fires or raped a hooker (How does a hooker claim rape anyway? Is that is you dont pay them?), lived an at-risk life style or even deserved to be sent away. Most parents with an at-risk child would choose people like fornits posters to have around their kids in a program.
Brendan was attending school, good kid, calm, friendly, not doing any drugs, easy to get along with and was an aspiring poet. Compared to that most other kids pale, I wish he was a friend of my child.
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Stories eh?
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-276536.html (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-276536.html)
And yes parents, be very scared because programs are money making machines who will take anyone with a pulse to fill their pockets. Be very scared, be worried for the safety of your children, be aware that the person next to them might be in need of much more help than the program will ever be able to provide, and be absolutely freaked out of your knob that the person who is supposed to be protecting your kid is probably a poorly trained minimum wage slave.
Yes. be scared, because chances are your kid may well be in for one hell of a nightmare.
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http://www.heal-online.org/diamond.htm (http://www.heal-online.org/diamond.htm)
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Who cares? According to the person he was living with at the time he was doing a hell of alot better. Sounds to me like the otherside of the story is DRA and their manipulating his parents with some deadinsaneorinjail horseshit. Obviously they pulled a fast sell on them as he was doing ok, I've talked to one of the people involved where he was living, and he was sorting things out.
So yeah the otherside of the story.. parents being scammed by a program. Not a very original tale as we've all heard it before.
Che Gookin should move on with his life instead of spending most of his time on this website and trying to shut down boarding schools. Do you have more important things to do Che? How many gulags have you succeeded in shutting down? He spends most of his time on Fornits because this is the only place he has a voice. It is time to grow up Che!
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:twofinger:
Thanks luv, I win again.
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Whooter, I have a chess move to make. My fist to your face 5." Stop giving Che a hard time you faggot.
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Whooter, I have a chess move to make. My fist to your face 5." Stop giving Che a hard time you faggot.
That wasnt me, I would never talk to TSW that way and he knows that. We are going to piss off the balcony together at Radio City Music Hall .
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Che Gookin should move on with his life instead of spending most of his time on this website and trying to shut down boarding schools. Do you have more important things to do Che? How many gulags have you succeeded in shutting down? He spends most of his time on Fornits because this is the only place he has a voice. It is time to grow up Che!
Do you have more important things to do Che? No
How many gulags have you succeeded in shutting down? 0
He will respond with sarcasm , so dan't count on an honest answer.
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Been following this story for awhile, I suggested to the lady who contacted me about a month ago to talk to Heal. They've made it an action alert whatever it is they call it at Heal. Has Cafety done anything like this to rally their supporters to assist this kid?
Primarily, we've been responding to requests for information from the organizers of the campaign. It hasn't exactly been formal, but it seems that a lot of our supporters on facebook have joined their facebook group as well. For my part, I provided info about the Utah licensing office, Ken Stettler's office is investigating complaints as we speak (we'll see how far that actually goes). In addition, providing links to ISAC, HEAL, CAFETY and ASTART.
Frankly, we're thrilled that so many others have taken the initiative on this. Kudos to HEAL.
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How many gulags has ISAC, HEAL, CAFETY and ASTART shut down? These organizations are worthless. They have no power. HEAL is a joke!
Yours truly,
The Who
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For all you interested parties - Brendan's friends are organizing a rally which will take place on Thursday, October 22 in Gainesville, Florida. The theme is "Teens Unite: A Rally for Rights". I have been emailing brian lombrowski and jeffrey nadel (current prez of NYRA). i'm hoping that each group will send a rep to speak. Anyone from this site who might be in the area is welcome. The impetus is Brendan and his situation, but the focus will be what we consider to be the next wave of the civil rights movement - Teen Rights.
Just so you know, we followed Brian's advice and made several reports to Ken Stettler - director of licensing and regulation in Utah. His office has opened an investigation into DRA. We have also filed complaints with the Dept of Children and Families here in Fl and in UT. Brendan's teen friends will be staging protests in front of B's family's business. B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
Whether or not Che or CAFETY have shut down programs is really not the point. The information they share trickles down to parents, kids, survivors, and people like us who are trying to right a terrible wrong. They have both been great resources for us. blessings.
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For all you interested parties - Brendan's friends are organizing a rally which will take place on Thursday, October 22 in Gainesville, Florida. The theme is "Teens Unite: A Rally for Rights". I have been emailing brian lombrowski and jeffrey nadel (current prez of NYRA). i'm hoping that each group will send a rep to speak. Anyone from this site who might be in the area is welcome. The impetus is Brendan and his situation, but the focus will be what we consider to be the next wave of the civil rights movement - Teen Rights.
Just so you know, we followed Brian's advice and made several reports to Ken Stettler - director of licensing and regulation in Utah. His office has opened an investigation into DRA. We have also filed complaints with the Dept of Children and Families here in Fl and in UT. Brendan's teen friends will be staging protests in front of B's family's business. B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
Whether or not Che or CAFETY have shut down programs is really not the point. The information they share trickles down to parents, kids, survivors, and people like us who are trying to right a terrible wrong. They have both been great resources for us. blessings.
I doubt the rally will have an effect.
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Been following this story for awhile, I suggested to the lady who contacted me about a month ago to talk to Heal. They've made it an action alert whatever it is they call it at Heal. Has Cafety done anything like this to rally their supporters to assist this kid?
Primarily, we've been responding to requests for information from the organizers of the campaign. It hasn't exactly been formal, but it seems that a lot of our supporters on facebook have joined their facebook group as well. For my part, I provided info about the Utah licensing office, Ken Stettler's office is investigating complaints as we speak (we'll see how far that actually goes). In addition, providing links to ISAC, HEAL, CAFETY and ASTART.
Frankly, we're thrilled that so many others have taken the initiative on this. Kudos to HEAL.
Good lads you are, keep it up and I notice a bit of skepticism about Ken Stettner. Not completely unwarranted but I do remember speaking with someone about how he handled the Witmore disaster. Essentially, he's stuck monitoring every nursing home, DD house, and program in the state of Utah with few to many people to do it. Patience, patience, and more patience is a virtue when dealing with the man. Bringing up specific violations within his jurisdiction is wise as well as it gives his office something they can act upon.
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For all you interested parties - Brendan's friends are organizing a rally which will take place on Thursday, October 22 in Gainesville, Florida. The theme is "Teens Unite: A Rally for Rights". I have been emailing brian lombrowski and jeffrey nadel (current prez of NYRA). i'm hoping that each group will send a rep to speak. Anyone from this site who might be in the area is welcome. The impetus is Brendan and his situation, but the focus will be what we consider to be the next wave of the civil rights movement - Teen Rights.
Just so you know, we followed Brian's advice and made several reports to Ken Stettler - director of licensing and regulation in Utah. His office has opened an investigation into DRA. We have also filed complaints with the Dept of Children and Families here in Fl and in UT. Brendan's teen friends will be staging protests in front of B's family's business. B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
Whether or not Che or CAFETY have shut down programs is really not the point. The information they share trickles down to parents, kids, survivors, and people like us who are trying to right a terrible wrong. They have both been great resources for us. blessings.
I doubt the rally will have an effect.
Guest has a point, organize a boycott of their business next. But do go ahead with the rally if for the sole purpose of giving those involved a means of expressing themselves.
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For all you interested parties - Brendan's friends are organizing a rally which will take place on Thursday, October 22 in Gainesville, Florida. The theme is "Teens Unite: A Rally for Rights". I have been emailing brian lombrowski and jeffrey nadel (current prez of NYRA). i'm hoping that each group will send a rep to speak. Anyone from this site who might be in the area is welcome. The impetus is Brendan and his situation, but the focus will be what we consider to be the next wave of the civil rights movement - Teen Rights.
Just so you know, we followed Brian's advice and made several reports to Ken Stettler - director of licensing and regulation in Utah. His office has opened an investigation into DRA. We have also filed complaints with the Dept of Children and Families here in Fl and in UT. Brendan's teen friends will be staging protests in front of B's family's business. B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
Whether or not Che or CAFETY have shut down programs is really not the point. The information they share trickles down to parents, kids, survivors, and people like us who are trying to right a terrible wrong. They have both been great resources for us. blessings.
I doubt the rally will have an effect.
Gisarah, your doom-saying troll is thewho, believed to be John D Reuben. His own kid killed himself because he got imprisoned and subjected to thought reform at SUWS wilderness and Academy at Swift River (Aspen Education Group programs, subsidiary of CRC health).
I believe he is motivated to harass victims of gulag abuse because he is jealous they are still alive and have the potential to live fulfilling lives, unlike his own son, who he killed. Don't mind him.
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Gisarah, your doom-saying troll is thewho, believed to be John D Reuben. His own kid killed himself because he got imprisoned and subjected to thought reform at SUWS wilderness and Academy at Swift River (Aspen Education Group programs, subsidiary of CRC health).
I believe he is motivated to harass victims of gulag abuse because he is jealous they are still alive and have the potential to live fulfilling lives, unlike his own son, who he killed. Don't mind him.
He may have been in a shitty situation but he made the choice to kill himself. There is nobody that forced him to kill himself. You can blame programs all you want to.
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i'm a married-for-20 years, 42-year-old-mother of three sons. nothing much scares me, especially not a naysayer. telling me "that won't help" is pointless. the rally is to raise awareness about the lack of a legal voice for teens, and to give brendan's friends a chance to express their outrage and distress. we are putting the pressure on in a public forum. the times, they are a'changin'.
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Keep it up gj!
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i'm a married-for-20 years, 42-year-old-mother of three sons. nothing much scares me, especially not a naysayer. telling me "that won't help" is pointless. the rally is to raise awareness about the lack of a legal voice for teens, and to give brendan's friends a chance to express their outrage and distress. we are putting the pressure on in a public forum. the times, they are a'changin'.
Times are a changin. :rofl: You are living in another universe.
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i'm a married-for-20 years, 42-year-old-mother of three sons. nothing much scares me, especially not a naysayer. telling me "that won't help" is pointless. the rally is to raise awareness about the lack of a legal voice for teens, and to give brendan's friends a chance to express their outrage and distress. we are putting the pressure on in a public forum. the times, they are a'changin'.
:rose:
For all you interested parties - Brendan's friends are organizing a rally which will take place on Thursday, October 22 in Gainesville, Florida. The theme is "Teens Unite: A Rally for Rights". I have been emailing brian lombrowski and jeffrey nadel (current prez of NYRA). i'm hoping that each group will send a rep to speak. Anyone from this site who might be in the area is welcome. The impetus is Brendan and his situation, but the focus will be what we consider to be the next wave of the civil rights movement - Teen Rights.
Just so you know, we followed Brian's advice and made several reports to Ken Stettler - director of licensing and regulation in Utah. His office has opened an investigation into DRA. We have also filed complaints with the Dept of Children and Families here in Fl and in UT. Brendan's teen friends will be staging protests in front of B's family's business. B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
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I will send you some quarters for food because protesters will need it throughout the day.
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B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
I think you misunderstood the trip. The programs have seminars (during the course of their sons stay there) which the parents are invited and encouraged to attend. The seminars do not indicate that the boy is ready to come home or that the parents just chose to leave the boy there. If someone contacts the school or relative they may be able to get an idea on when he is scheduled to complete the program or graduate.
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B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
I think you misunderstood the trip. The programs have seminars (during the course of their sons stay there) which the parents are invited and encouraged to attend. The seminars do not indicate that the boy is ready to come home or that the parents just chose to leave the boy there. If someone contacts the school or relative they may be able to get an idea on when he is scheduled to complete the program or graduate.
True. But if the parents can attend one of those seminars and not have their radar go off enough to IMMEDIATELY go get their kid then, usually, outside help is needed.
May I suggest trying for a writ of Habeas corpus (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus) from the local family courts? I'm not a lawyer and so this is not legal advice. I'm just saying find a lawyer experienced in family law, preferably one with experience with the troubled parent industry or other cults, and ask about getting a writ of Habeas corpus in this case. PM me and I can recommend someone who may be able to give you good advice.
Peace and good luck! Wish I could be there.
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B's mom and grandmother went out to UT for a "seminar" and did not bring him home. so now, the gloves are off.
I think you misunderstood the trip. The programs have seminars (during the course of their sons stay there) which the parents are invited and encouraged to attend. The seminars do not indicate that the boy is ready to come home or that the parents just chose to leave the boy there. If someone contacts the school or relative they may be able to get an idea on when he is scheduled to complete the program or graduate.
True. But if the parents can attend one of those seminars and not have their radar go off enough to IMMEDIATELY go get their kid then, usually, outside help is needed.
May I suggest trying for a writ of Habeas corpus (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus) from the local family courts? I'm not a lawyer and so this is not legal advice. I'm just saying find a lawyer experienced in family law, preferably one with experience with the troubled parent industry or other cults, and ask about getting a writ of Habeas corpus in this case. PM me and I can recommend someone who may be able to give you good advice.
Peace and good luck! Wish I could be there.
I was wondering how the seminar thing went. I would second Antigen's comment. If a parent is going to realize what a sham and scam they have fallen for, it will be when they attend the seminar. Parents seem to have one of two reactions: they are appalled by what they experience and want their kid out of the situation; or, they fall for it hook line and sinker and become new members in the legion of faithful.
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well, DRA uses the color code http://www.colorcode.com/ (http://www.colorcode.com/) by taylor hartman for their parent seminars (so the website says). b's mom did not come back with her son, and has not said much about the seminar. she and b's dad go out there again in november to another seminar. it's just so cute how they even have an employee page which tells you each person's "color profile". i think i may barf. anyway, apparently, b's parents are "being held accountable" and "have to explain themselves to b". but b still doesn't get to communicate...if DRA's so great (if all of these programs are so great) then why do they contract with escorts, why aren't they more transparent? what do they have to hide? plenty.
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http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartman_Personality_Profile
Ok this sounds like a pile of shit to me.
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:bump:
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how is this going?