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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Curious George on September 15, 2009, 10:31:59 PM
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I am a parent of a current CALO student. I am not happy with CALO or the deceitfulness of their organization.
Are there any other parents out there with similar concerns?
If so, we need to somehow meet and discuss as a group. CALO is not helping our children, they are taking us for a ride at a very high price tag. I was very dismayed at the letter that was sent to only a selective group of parents. I also know CALO has filed a suit (basically a gag order) against former staff members who allegedly wrote the letter.
I can attest that, from my own personal knowledge, that this letter was 100% accurate when it spoke to situations involving my child. I was told by CALO that these allegation were a fabrication and blatent lies. CALO lied to my face and I am very upset. I also have learned many things about CALO that were never disclosed to me during the "admittance process" or ongoing therapy or of their background and previous issues.
Are there any parents out there willing to step up to the plate and hold CALO accountable, at bare minimum at least to find out the truth? I am. If you are truly concerned for your child, we need to band together and force the truth out.
Curious George
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I am a parent of a current CALO student.
First step is to become the parent of a former CALO student, buttmonkey.
If this is the result of a divorce thing (and it so often is), post your ex's information here.
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To buttmonkey Guest.
You really can't see the forest due to the trees can you? Are you 12?
Don't play games, either help or get out of the way.
CG
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Uh huh.
And we're just supposed to willingly, happily believe you when you post as a "parent of a current CALO student".. even if you don't trust the organization that currently HAS YOUR KID. What the fuck? You don't trust them and he/she is STILL THERE?
Either you have custody problems, a serious lack of common sense.. or you're just plain lying.
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Guys... calm down.. CG.. these are unmoderated forums.. I'd be wary of getting into flame wars with anons.
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Guest is the only one making any sense. Parent, why is your kid still there? Go pick them up right now!
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Guys... calm down.. CG.. these are unmoderated forums.. I'd be wary of getting into flame wars with anons.
Che Gookin wants you to calm down because he doesn't want parents to read the bullshit in this thread. Another example of the double standard from Che Gookin.
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To WTF:
Your a friggin genious...you hit the nail on the head with ONE of your scenario's.
You can try and figure out which one makes you the happiest Einstien.
Would pick up if I could, would love to bust out if didn't have other obligations to worry about compounded by the fact it's currently illegal in the state of MO.
Don't need to go to jail by following your shit bag, moronic, juvinile advice. Like I said, either help or get out of the way. Certain people with brains would have already figured that out...not just the jagbags that shoot their mouth off without thinking.
CG
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Looks like fornits caught itself a new fish. How long will this one last before they realize the inevitable?
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Guest,
Inevitable, meaning you are full of shit?
I'll put money down I outlast you. Never backed down from a good fight when it comes to people I care about. I'm taking this as far as it goes.
Go back to your crib and suck your thumb.
CG
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Guest,
Inevitable, meaning you are full of shit?
I'll put money down I outlast you. Never backed down from a good fight when it comes to people I care about. I'm taking this as far as it goes.
Go back to your crib and suck your thumb.
CG
Heh,
That's what you all say. predictable. In reality you'e just another keyboard smacking submissive program parent , right? Is your kid in a program,? Why don't you go get them?
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Guys... calm down.. CG.. these are unmoderated forums.. I'd be wary of getting into flame wars with anons.
Che Gookin wants you to calm down because he doesn't want parents to read the bullshit in this thread. Another example of the double standard from Che Gookin.
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Guys... calm down.. CG.. these are unmoderated forums.. I'd be wary of getting into flame wars with anons.
Che Gookin wants you to calm down because he doesn't want parents to read the bullshit in this thread. Another example of the double standard from Che Gookin.
WTF? This doesn't even make sense. Care to elaborate a bit more for the slow among us?
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Looks like fornits caught itself a new fish. How long will this one last before they realize the inevitable?
Dunno, it looks like it's trying to hook us.
would love to bust out if didn't have other obligations to worry about
Enjoy your stay in the cheap nursing home!
If you really are a non-custodial parent then they wouldn't even talk to you. Programs never do. * CALO probably already knows who you are. * They'll have to know anyway once the legal shit starts flying. So you post here and say "other CALO parents, talk to me" without providing anything about yourself.. or anything about CALO, really.. what is everyone supposed to think? "Hey, this is a real parent, and I'm worried about what's going on with my kid in CALO"? Or "Hey, this is probably just another Fornits troll" or "Hey, this guy is fishing for complaints like a CALO version of the NKVD"?
BTW, try the English language instead of monkey-speak. You might like it.
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:feedtrolls: :seg:
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Oh, snap!
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:feedtrolls:
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CG WTF It’s not in your post history anymore, but as recently as today there was a post under your login claiming to have worked at Calo. Now You’re a parent of a kid being held at Calo. Early on you were trying to come off like an attorney…which is it?
Someone else asked you this, so I know I’m not the onlyone that saw it. Answer.
Well, *I* didn't see it. Nor the pretend attorney. Either quote it, link it, or begone.
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Well, *I* didn't see it. Nor the pretend attorney. Either quote it, link it, or begone.
Fuck you.
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THIS foolish behavior will give parents a good impression
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If you're more worried about "WAAAH PEOPLE ARE BEING MEAN ON THE INTERNET" while kids are being forced to love their abusers for slamming them face-down on the concrete in holds intentionally designed to inflict pain without leaving marks, it's time to choke down a Glock.
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:feedtrolls:
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E1CDLLQ
If you're more worried about "WAAAH PEOPLE ARE BEING MEAN ON THE INTERNET" while kids are being forced to love their abusers for slamming them face-down on the concrete in holds intentionally designed to inflict pain without leaving marks, it's time to choke down a Glock.
:cry:
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Please, folks. Can we leave this and get back on topic.
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Please, folks. Can we leave this and get back on topic.
When we're not even sure if there's a legitimate topic to get back on? I think not.
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When we're not even sure if there's a legitimate topic to get back on? I think not.
THERE USUALLY ISN'T A LEGITIMATE TOPIC.
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blergh
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Oh femms Hi I missed you.
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Please, folks. Can we leave this and get back on topic.
When we're not even sure if there's a legitimate topic to get back on? I think not.
Um. After checking some stuff out, I do believe we're dealing with a legitimate parent here. So, yes, there is a legimate topic.
To Curious George... some advice: don't get into fights with anons. It just goes on and on, page after page, derailing the topic. The easiest way to deal with the situation is to simply ignore and it goes away.
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Never claimed to be an employee, ever.
Show me where you saw this. If someone posted this it wasn't me.
In any event, you aren't providing anything for the parents. I can. So are you trying to help or do you have to much time on your hands trying to figure out who I am?
Lose the games kids, let's get to the adults who care. It doesn't sound like any of you are parents.
CG
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Curious George keep derailing this thread. You are doing a good job.
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I am a parent of a current CALO student. I am not happy with CALO or the deceitfulness of their organization.
Are there any other parents out there with similar concerns?
If so, we need to somehow meet and discuss as a group. CALO is not helping our children, they are taking us for a ride at a very high price tag. I was very dismayed at the letter that was sent to only a selective group of parents. I also know CALO has filed a suit (basically a gag order) against former staff members who allegedly wrote the letter.
I can attest that, from my own personal knowledge, that this letter was 100% accurate when it spoke to situations involving my child. I was told by CALO that these allegation were a fabrication and blatent lies. CALO lied to my face and I am very upset. I also have learned many things about CALO that were never disclosed to me during the "admittance process" or ongoing therapy or of their background and previous issues.
Are there any parents out there willing to step up to the plate and hold CALO accountable, at bare minimum at least to find out the truth? I am. If you are truly concerned for your child, we need to band together and force the truth out.
Curious George
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CHE is the troll in this thread. EVERYONE blame it on him! :seg:
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Lol, wut?
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Psy,
thank you for the recommendation. To the point of anon's postings. I see there are postings for Bi-curious george and Curious Jorge. Hopefully this answers the questions for all those pretending to be me.
CG
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It doesn't sound like any of you are parents.
CG
Not everyone who cares about what happens to kids in these places is a parent.
Not every parent gives a damn about their kid or anyone else’s.
I don’t care who you are or who you think anyone else is. I do care to know what you have to say about what CALO is about . So, quit talking to trolls and get on with it.
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Guest,
Let's. Is there a parent forum or do you know of another way to get in contact with other concerned parents?
CG
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cheeya... why does every topic involving a parent have to turn into an epic fight?
Thank you CG for your concern and I think it would be a good idea as well for you parents to put your heads together, but just to warn you, I don't know how many of those you'll find at Fornits.
Do you know of any CALO support groups you can attend? You might want to try making some contacts there. Does CALO have any seminars? You will have to find ways to connect with parents who are not already aware of the issues if you want to do any good. My favorite is the seminar intervention, pass out flyers and ask some revealing questions. You might have some luck on myspace or facebook as well, maybe creating a group for former CALO students and or parents and just talk to them about their experiences, I can promise you, you'll hit a gold mine of info from former students who no longer have allegiance to CALO.
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another good way would be to find the recent article about the girl gone missing from CALO on Topix, there should be a lot of parents reading and commenting there.
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CHE is the troll in this thread. EVERYONE blame it on him! :seg:
Lol, wut?
who che?
never!
teehee
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cheeya... why does every topic involving a parent have to turn into an epic fight?
Because not everybody forgives their parents for sending them to a bad program and they tend to see any parent as their parents (even if the parent had nothing to do with putting the kid in a program). Put simply, it's prejudice.
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cheeya... why does every topic involving a parent have to turn into an epic fight?
Because not everybody forgives their parents for sending them to a bad program and they tend to see any parent as their parents (even if the parent had nothing to do with putting the kid in a program). Put simply, it's prejudice.
Quoted for posterity.
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I am a parent of a current CALO student. I am not happy with CALO or the deceitfulness of their organization.
Then why don't you go get them out right now?
CALO is not helping our children
Then why don't you go get them out right now?
If you are truly concerned for your child, we need to band together and force the truth out.
If you were truly concerned for your child you would go and get them right now.
You would have us believe your child is imprisoned and you could release them but you are wasting your time playing paddy cake with internet posters you'll never meet. People aren't so stupid to believe this fairy tail. You are a troll, and have no children. <-- PERIOD!
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Curious George does not have primary custody of the child.
Curious George has had opportunity to visit the child at CALO and has witnessed events that contradict the CALO/Ken version of reality.
Curious George should spend less time asking how to contact other parents or seeking legal counsel on open forum in a trolled environment.
Curious George might find it easier to get their message across by staying on track with telling the truth about this program.
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It's like a ZenAgent clone. This should prove interesting.
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Curious George wrote:
I am a parent of a current CALO student. I am not happy with CALO or the deceitfulness of their organization.
Curious George is probably a CALO misfit or fake parent trying to start trouble. Keep up the good work Curious George. :rofl:
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We all know by now nothing gets the fornits egos (people who maintain avatars in a lame attempt to feign humanity) love nothing more than to play armchair psychologist to program parents. They live for this stuff. Why is another question. Why don't you all just get jobs in the TTI and get it over with? Then you can spend all day telling parents what to do with their kids.
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I am a parent of a current CALO student. I am not happy with CALO or the deceitfulness of their organization.
Are there any other parents out there with similar concerns?
If so, we need to somehow meet and discuss as a group. CALO is not helping our children, they are taking us for a ride at a very high price tag. I was very dismayed at the letter that was sent to only a selective group of parents. I also know CALO has filed a suit (basically a gag order) against former staff members who allegedly wrote the letter.
I can attest that, from my own personal knowledge, that this letter was 100% accurate when it spoke to situations involving my child. I was told by CALO that these allegation were a fabrication and blatent lies. CALO lied to my face and I am very upset. I also have learned many things about CALO that were never disclosed to me during the "admittance process" or ongoing therapy or of their background and previous issues.
Are there any parents out there willing to step up to the plate and hold CALO accountable, at bare minimum at least to find out the truth? I am. If you are truly concerned for your child, we need to band together and force the truth out.
Curious George
I am curious whether there is a copy of that letter in circulation somewhere, which could be posted by someone anonymous... Alternatively, specific points made in that letter could be brought up and discussed.
However, I have concerns as to how this might affect the currently on-going lawsuit.
Someone more versed in these matters please comment.
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However, I have concerns as to how this might affect the currently on-going lawsuit.
How much do you REALLY KNOW about the lawsuit?
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However, I have concerns as to how this might affect the currently on-going lawsuit.
How much do you REALLY KNOW about the lawsuit?
Why don't you inform us?
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Why don't you inform us?
You are an idiot for writing "Why don't you inform us? You know more than others, because you have the inside sources (Che Gooking, Sum Ting Wong, Ken Huey).
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Why don't you inform us?
You are an idiot for writing "Why don't you inform us? You know more than others, because you have the inside sources (Che Gooking, Sum Ting Wong, Ken Huey).
Permission to contact you privately, guest?
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Permission to contact you privately, guest?
Contact YOURSELF privately. You may not contact me.
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Permission to contact you privately, guest?
Contact YOURSELF privately. You may not contact me.
Ok. Then i'll ask you publicly. Why do you seem to be so upset and what exactly is your beef with me? Che? Ursus? What's your agenda here? If you are on a "side", whose is it?
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However, I have concerns as to how this might affect the currently on-going lawsuit.
How much do you REALLY KNOW about the lawsuit?
I don't know any more about it than anyone else does, i.e., whatever info that has been posted here on the threads. From the sound of it, you probably know more than the rest of us.
What I want to avoid is any appearance even, that could be hung on certain people's backs who already have more than enough on their plate. I don't want them to be blamed for my or anyone else's speculation. That's all.
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Further information regarding suit is being saught...hang in there...
Oraganization of parents has begun.
CG
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Ursus,
Yes, we have a copy of the letter and what was filed. Given the current legal situation, I think it's best not to post it, let's let the attorney's do their jobs for now.
If we get the green light, it should be made public knowledge. However, confidentiality of students and rights of minors and families need to be protected, and all applicable laws followed. However, I personally believe every parent has the right to see that letter and judge for themselves if it contains accurate information.
If they are as concerned as I am. Let's direct them to the new Topic just posted so we can further organize.
CG
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Let's direct them to the new Topic just posted so we can further organize.
viewtopic.php?f=77&t=28680 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=28680)
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To Starvation.
Thank you for the advice, will be glad to discuss truths I've personally witnessed at CALO. Also, parents have been contacted and attorneys are being consulted.
CG
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HELP! I am very concerned reading some of these posts!
I am about ready to send my teen to CALO and happened upon these forums. I would like to know what some of the experiences are that were not good.
It seemed that the kids I saw there were doing pretty well and seemed okay.
Would someone be willing to dialog with me privately?
Thx
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Use facebook to find some of the CALO Alumni. I doubt you'll get many parents to speak as lawsuits happy CALO fruitcakes seem to like to sue everyone in arm's length.
As for the kids at the program....
Of course they look happy.. You don't think the kids are dumb enough to tell you what they really feel do you? If they did that they'd be in a heap of shit so deep they'd never escape it.
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Use facebook to find some of the CALO Alumni. I doubt you'll get many parents to speak as lawsuits happy CALO fruitcakes seem to like to sue everyone in arm's length.
See the following thread for info on just one of those lawsuits, ongoing as we post:
- the ever litigious KEN HUEY of CALO sues JEN's parents
viewtopic.php?f=77&t=29809 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=29809)
As for the kids at the program....
Of course they look happy.. You don't think the kids are dumb enough to tell you what they really feel do you? If they did that they'd be in a heap of shit so deep they'd never escape it.
I guess the daughter of the aforementioned parents wasn't so happy; she saw fit to escape!
And, apparently her parents weren't so happy with how things were working out at CALO since, once their daughter was eventually found and returned to her family safe and sound, they pulled her from the program.
And... apparently CALO wasn't too happy about the consequent loss of tuition monies, 'cuz — despite having lost track of this teenager for some length of time — they then sued the parents for breach of contract.
B U Y E R · B E W A R E
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Aaaaaaaand apparently CALO fell down the memory hole, so it's time to start bumping topics. (Hey psy, move these to the CALO board?)
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HELP! I am very concerned reading some of these posts!
I am about ready to send my teen to CALO and happened upon these forums. I would like to know what some of the experiences are that were not good.
It seemed that the kids I saw there were doing pretty well and seemed okay.
Would someone be willing to dialog with me privately?
Thx
Don't know if you ended up sending your child to CALO, but I am willing to chat privately. I am a CALO parent - I might be able to reassure you (without being vilified publicly by anti-treatment zealots.)
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P.S. I question Curious George's veracity and I find it hard to believe he is a CALO parent. ( I wasn't aware he was claiming to be such until I noticed this thread.) In any case, he has not contacted me. I am not aware of any parental concerns about nor efforts to rally parents against CALO. That action is a non-starter.
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Edited: Wednesday, October 06, 2010
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P.S. I question Curious George's veracity and I find it hard to believe he is a CALO parent. ( I wasn't aware he was claiming to be such until I noticed this thread.) In any case, he has not contacted me. I am not aware of any parental concerns about nor efforts to rally parents against CALO. That action is a non-starter.
I exchanged a small number of PMs with George and I *do* believe he is for real. It really shouldn't be any surprise that he did not contact you ... given your assertively pro-CALO stance. Perhaps more pertinently, you were not posting around the time that he was active here.
There were a small handful of other CALO parents who also put out feelers along lines similar to what George expressed. Given Ken Huey's allegedly litigious nature (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=29809), I imagine they kept their more in-depth discussions off the threads.