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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Che Gookin on August 30, 2009, 02:19:14 AM
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http://www.freedomcenter.org/ (http://www.freedomcenter.org/)
Interesting website to look over. Worth a few moments of your time.
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http://www.freedomcenter.org/
Interesting website to look over. Worth a few moments of your time.
Well worthwhile. Thank you Che for bringing this topic, and for the link http://www.freedomcenter.org/ (http://www.freedomcenter.org/) which I will pursue.
http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/ (http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/) I’m more familiar with this group.
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did the ever spent time in russia cause you to look this up?
awwwwww :hug:
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did the ever spent time in russia cause you to look this up?
awwwwww :hug:
It is a topic that comes up from time to time... Che also started this thread in February 2008:
OFF topic thread.. Human trafficking.
viewtopic.php?f=52&t=25360 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=25360)[/list]
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I want to buy slave, How much for american blonde girl with intact hymen 12-16 yrs old? I can trade for two russian girls of equal age and stature and maybe throw in shipping container of used ak-47? No drug addicts please. Contact me at the Ukrainian consulate in los angeles if you have offer.
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I forgot to ask, is Jew girl possible? is more expensive? I will also pay more for girl with braces and little-girl-voice, and skinny skinny little-girl legs. remember, hymen INTACT please. i no want "sloppy seconds" as you say in america. I the two girls i have are dirty black girls from new orleans - they now 16 and 20 - they be kidnapped during hurricane. I give them funny name: katrina one and katrina two. they afraid to go outside, where I live there no niggers. When they go outside little boys point and stare, and old babushkas throw fish and cabbage at them and scream "take shower"!. they no help to me. they lazy like nigger, and they pussy is loosey. They tell me they have sex with big black "brother" when they turn ten. I cannot compete with black man in size. I can buy new russian girl every morning and kill every night, but they no interesting - they disposable like plastic spoon and about as interesting. I want interesting american blonde girl with tight little pussy who can tell me wonders of america.
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why no response? i leave country on private jet tomorrow i want my whore before so i dont need to deal with smuggle her through customs! Anything aboard my jet is under roof, i cannot guarantee safe passage in public jet, if I no get offer by tonight you only get money when i see my whore arrive in my mansion in kiev! i am horny like siberian rabbit! I want sex! I will give you mayor position in small city in voronezh, you want be mayor? You give me whore I make you into sarah palin.
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Mr. Piniskin:
We have a number of girls who are available to fit your needs, and whose vaginas are according to your specifications. Additionally, many of them are adoptees from Eastern Europe, making them exactly suitable for your interests.
I am certain we can arrive at a mutual agreement.
Ken Huey
CEO, Change Academy Lake of the Ozarks (CALO)
130 CALO Lane
Lake Ozark, MO 65049
1-877-879-CALO (2256)
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american girl, AMERICAN GIRL! BLONDE! like tom petty song! no eastern europe! :beat:
I= ::fullofshit::
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http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm (http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm)
IC3^
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Legal_Comm ... tem=145452 (http://www.uslaw.com/library/Legal_Commentary/Supreme_Court_Recognizes_Solicitation_Commit_Crime_Exception_Amendment.php?item=145452)
Supreme Court Recognizes Solicitation / Offer to Commit Crime Exception to the First Amendment:
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Child exploitation: The term ‘‘child exploitation’’ means any conduct, attempted
conduct, or conspiracy to engage in conduct involving a minor that violates section
1591, chapter 109A, chapter 110, and chapter 117 of title 18, United States Code, or
any sexual activity involving a minor for which any person can be charged with a
criminal offense.
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Aires, there is something called SARCASM. he is not soliciting anything, and you obviously have no sense of humor. If you were part of the past conversation (thread "has anyone spent any time in russia") you would have understood the joke. c'mon, you've never seen borat?
You couldnt tell it was sarcasm by my "name" even?
Valdimir Ivantovech piniskin.
Valdimir iwant-to-eat Penis-skin.
:beat:
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did the ever spent time in russia cause you to look this up?
awwwwww :hug:
No, I saw a bit of this sort of thing years ago down in Flordia, more in South Korea, tonnes in Cambodia, and here in China. China was probably the most disturbing as I was in Guangzhou drinking a beer at a small bar on the old Trade Concession Island. I noticed dozens of Americans with Chinese babies and it wasn't till later that I figured out that probably most of the kids had been swiped from their parents.
Is the human flesh trade as bad as you are making it out to be in Russia?
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yup it's bad.
the way it works is people (pimps/masters) put out an ad in the newspaper or similar publication offering young women work in a faraway place - be it another city or another country. The work they are offered ranges from telemarketing, interpreter, hostess, waitressing, pretty much anything. the clinch that attracts the women is the pay - they are offered sometimes 10x the amount of pay that they would normally get where they live doing the same thing. They target uneducated, clueless women living in poor, economically destitute areas of the country. Women from the caucases or siberia and similar far-off regions are targeted to come to cities like moscow or st.petersburg, and the women from those cities are generally targeted to go to places like the netherlands, spain, middle eastern countries and a few certain ex-soviet countries (hungary, Czech rep) Usually, the woman goes for an interview, everything looks legit, and if she's pretty enough they offer to pay for her plane ride to wherever the job is. Once she gets there, she finds out there is no job, and she owes whomever the transport fare. she is also peniless, homeless, and hungry. because often they are on tourist visas or simply smuggled into the country, they have no way of getting legitimate work. so they start prostituting themselves for the people that brought her there. This eventually leads to an endless cycle of debt where the pimp contrives new reasons why she owes money and needs to work. the only way out of this is if the prostitute meets a man who is willing to marry her, take her under his wing, and get her out of the country and (usually) to the U.S. This is often complicated by the fact that her pimps often still want the debt repaid, and will hunt the woman to the ends of the earth to get it. this often means the future husband has to "buy" the woman from the pimp..... (does the whole russian brides thing make sense to you now?)
It's not like every russian woman is a slave. This is not a huge huge huge endemic problem. It is a problem though, more so than in any other developed nation. Any russian you meet there or abroad with probably know someone who was subject to this kind of treatment, or knows a friend who knew someone who was.
Also, just to be clear, russian mafia goons dont kidnap and rape little girls from foreign countries, especially not america. Pedophile is more of a taboo in russia than in the U.S. Any russian criminal found out to be a pedophile is an instantly dead russian criminal. The underworld has zero tolerance for such behavior, and will not hesitate to eliminate anyone suspected of trafficking or abusing children. Anyone sent to prison for such a crime can be certain he will not leave alive - and no amount of bribery will get a pedophile out of trouble. Granted, in russia, the age of majority as accepted by the culture is different - anyone over 16-17 is considered an adult although that may differ from individual to individual.
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Ahh yeah I'm familiar with that scam. They pull it in South Korea on occasion as they get girls from Russia and the Phillipines to fly over to work as bar girls or models. Once they arrive they are given the good news that their lives are now officially in the shit and that their future is going to be spent on their backs.
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I want to buy slave, How much for american blonde girl with intact hymen 12-16 yrs old? I can trade for two russian girls of equal age and stature and maybe throw in shipping container of used ak-47? No drug addicts please. Contact me at the Ukrainian consulate in los angeles if you have offer.
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm
IC3^
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Legal_Comm ... tem=145452 (http://www.uslaw.com/library/Legal_Commentary/Supreme_Court_Recognizes_Solicitation_Commit_Crime_Exception_Amendment.php?item=145452)
Supreme Court Recognizes Solicitation / Offer to Commit Crime Exception to the First Amendment:
Child exploitation: The term ‘‘child exploitation’’ means any conduct, attempted
conduct, or conspiracy to engage in conduct involving a minor that violates section
1591, chapter 109A, chapter 110, and chapter 117 of title 18, United States Code, or
any sexual activity involving a minor for which any person can be charged with a
criminal offense.
Aires, there is something called SARCASM. he is not soliciting anything, and you obviously have no sense of humor. If you were part of the past conversation (thread "has anyone spent any time in russia") you would have understood the joke. c'mon, you've never seen borat?
You couldnt tell it was sarcasm by my "name" even?
Valdimir Ivantovech piniskin.
Aries is right, Stack.
by Eugene Volokh:
Supreme Court Recognizes Solicitation / Offer to Commit Crime Exception to the First Amendment:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008 ... 1211221587 (http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_05_18-2008_05_24.shtml#1211221587)
Today's [1]U.S. v. Williams opinion might seem like a child
pornography case; but the key (though not unexpected) holding is that
there is a First Amendment exception for solicitation of crime or
offer to commit a crime, see Part II-B.
This is not the same as the "incitement" exception, which bars only
speech that's intended and likely to produce imminent lawless conduct.
Rather, it's an exception that covers a proposal to engage in
specified illegal activity, even if the activity is to happen at some
unspecified time in the future, and even if the activity isn't likely
to happen. "Please help me out of my marital problems, my friend, by
killing my wife" wouldn't be incitement, for instance, but it would be
solicitation. Likewise, "please help me out of my marital problems, my
friend, by shooting my wife right now" probably wouldn't be incitement
if it was highly unlikely to succeed, but it would also be
solicitation or attempt (some solicitations are punishable as
attempts). Solicitation to commit a crime is generally outlawed, but
of course criminal laws have to pass muster under the First Amendment.
Williams holds that this is indeed so.
From there, the result is pretty straightforward. The statute at issue
in Williams bars
knowingly advertis[ing], promot[ing], present[ing], distribut[ing],
or solicit[ing] ... any material or purported material in a manner
that reflects the belief, or that is intended to cause another to
believe, that the material or purported material ... contains
(i) an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually
explicit conduct; or
(ii) a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually
explicit conduct ....
Material that's actually covered by subsections (i) and (ii) is
constitutionally unprotected, whether under the "obscenity" exception
or the "child pornography" exception. The Court read "advertis[ing],
promot[ing], present[ing], distribut[ing], or solicit[ing]" as
essentially involving solicitation or offer of a specific transaction
in a particular item. That the item might not actually be obscenity or
child pornography doesn't matter because the general criminal law is
that an attempt to commit a crime is punishable even if the attempt is
factually impossible. Trying to buy illegal drugs, for instance, by
soliciting someone to sell them to you is generally a criminal attempt
even if the solicited seller was only going to deliver fake drugs
rather than real ones. So the bottom line is that the prohibited
conduct constitutes criminally punishable solicitation, offer, or
attempt to get or give constitutionally unprotected material.
So this will make clear that solicitation, offer, and attempt to
commit a wide range of crimes -- including the distribution or receipt
of child pornography -- is indeed criminally punishable. And, contrary
to Justice Souter's dissent (joined by Justice Ginsburg), I don't see
how this will materially change the protection offered to distribution
of nonobscene pictures that don't actually depict real children, but
instead show computer- or hand-drawn children, or adults that look
like children: A distributor or recipient may avoid liability under
the statute by simply offering or asking for "pictures of adults who
look underage" or "computer-generated pictures that look like
children."
Such offers or solicitations won't "reflect[] the belief, or [be]
intended to cause another to believe" that the material is a visual
depiction of an actual child engaging in sex. (Of course, if the
material does prove to be actual child porn involving actual children,
and the recipient knows or learns that the material so qualifies, he
might be liable for possession of actual child porn, but that would be
true regardless of the solicitation/offer ban.) And to the extent that
such offers or solicitations may be said to reflect a belief or are
intended to cause a belief that the material is obscene -- a
complicated matter given the vagueness of the term "obscene" -- the
problems that the law poses are not materially different from the
problems posed by obscenity law in the first place.
So the opinion strikes me as generally quite sound, not much of a
change in child pornography law, and an important but fully expected
recognition of the solicitation/offer exception. The recognition of
this exception requires the Court to define and police the "important
distinction between a proposal to engage in illegal activity and the
abstract advocacy of illegality," the latter of which is protected
under Brandenburg v. Ohio and many other cases; but the Court's
recognition of this distinction, which I just quoted, and the
necessity for such a distinction, leads me not to worry too much about
the future on this score. So on balance it's not surprising to me that
the result was a lopsided 7-2.
References
1. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-694.pdf (http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-694.pdf)
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Pedophile is more of a taboo in russia than in the U.S.
BULL FUCKING SHIT.
A heavily disproportionate number of the real sick sites involving little boys end in .ru.
Now maybe the Russian Mafia has their scruples and kills pedos, but they're obviously not doing a very good job if so. There are a LOT of pedos and pedo sites in Russia including the teeny-model or whatever the fuck they're calling themselves now (they rebrand themselves almost as often as programs).
Also, LOL at Internet lawyers. Next up he'll be saying "YOU IMPERSONATED KEN HUEY THAT'S DEFAMATION" and we can laugh at him some more.
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I want to buy slave, How much for american blonde girl with intact hymen 12-16 yrs old? I can trade for two russian girls of equal age and stature and maybe throw in shipping container of used ak-47? No drug addicts please. Contact me at the Ukrainian consulate in los angeles if you have offer.
http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/reporting.htm
IC3^
http://www.uslaw.com/library/Legal_Comm ... tem=145452 (http://www.uslaw.com/library/Legal_Commentary/Supreme_Court_Recognizes_Solicitation_Commit_Crime_Exception_Amendment.php?item=145452)
Supreme Court Recognizes Solicitation / Offer to Commit Crime Exception to the First Amendment:
Child exploitation: The term ‘‘child exploitation’’ means any conduct, attempted
conduct, or conspiracy to engage in conduct involving a minor that violates section
1591, chapter 109A, chapter 110, and chapter 117 of title 18, United States Code, or
any sexual activity involving a minor for which any person can be charged with a
criminal offense.
Aires, there is something called SARCASM. he is not soliciting anything, and you obviously have no sense of humor. If you were part of the past conversation (thread "has anyone spent any time in russia") you would have understood the joke. c'mon, you've never seen borat?
You couldnt tell it was sarcasm by my "name" even?
Valdimir Ivantovech piniskin.
Aries is right, Stack.
by Eugene Volokh:
Supreme Court Recognizes Solicitation / Offer to Commit Crime Exception to the First Amendment:
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008 ... 1211221587 (http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_05_18-2008_05_24.shtml#1211221587)
Today's [1]U.S. v. Williams opinion might seem like a child
pornography case; but the key (though not unexpected) holding is that
there is a First Amendment exception for solicitation of crime or
offer to commit a crime, see Part II-B.
This is not the same as the "incitement" exception, which bars only
speech that's intended and likely to produce imminent lawless conduct.
Rather, it's an exception that covers a proposal to engage in
specified illegal activity, even if the activity is to happen at some
unspecified time in the future, and even if the activity isn't likely
to happen. "Please help me out of my marital problems, my friend, by
killing my wife" wouldn't be incitement, for instance, but it would be
solicitation. Likewise, "please help me out of my marital problems, my
friend, by shooting my wife right now" probably wouldn't be incitement
if it was highly unlikely to succeed, but it would also be
solicitation or attempt (some solicitations are punishable as
attempts). Solicitation to commit a crime is generally outlawed, but
of course criminal laws have to pass muster under the First Amendment.
Williams holds that this is indeed so.
From there, the result is pretty straightforward. The statute at issue
in Williams bars
knowingly advertis[ing], promot[ing], present[ing], distribut[ing],
or solicit[ing] ... any material or purported material in a manner
that reflects the belief, or that is intended to cause another to
believe, that the material or purported material ... contains
(i) an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually
explicit conduct; or
(ii) a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually
explicit conduct ....
Material that's actually covered by subsections (i) and (ii) is
constitutionally unprotected, whether under the "obscenity" exception
or the "child pornography" exception. The Court read "advertis[ing],
promot[ing], present[ing], distribut[ing], or solicit[ing]" as
essentially involving solicitation or offer of a specific transaction
in a particular item. That the item might not actually be obscenity or
child pornography doesn't matter because the general criminal law is
that an attempt to commit a crime is punishable even if the attempt is
factually impossible. Trying to buy illegal drugs, for instance, by
soliciting someone to sell them to you is generally a criminal attempt
even if the solicited seller was only going to deliver fake drugs
rather than real ones. So the bottom line is that the prohibited
conduct constitutes criminally punishable solicitation, offer, or
attempt to get or give constitutionally unprotected material.
So this will make clear that solicitation, offer, and attempt to
commit a wide range of crimes -- including the distribution or receipt
of child pornography -- is indeed criminally punishable. And, contrary
to Justice Souter's dissent (joined by Justice Ginsburg), I don't see
how this will materially change the protection offered to distribution
of nonobscene pictures that don't actually depict real children, but
instead show computer- or hand-drawn children, or adults that look
like children: A distributor or recipient may avoid liability under
the statute by simply offering or asking for "pictures of adults who
look underage" or "computer-generated pictures that look like
children."
Such offers or solicitations won't "reflect[] the belief, or [be]
intended to cause another to believe" that the material is a visual
depiction of an actual child engaging in sex. (Of course, if the
material does prove to be actual child porn involving actual children,
and the recipient knows or learns that the material so qualifies, he
might be liable for possession of actual child porn, but that would be
true regardless of the solicitation/offer ban.) And to the extent that
such offers or solicitations may be said to reflect a belief or are
intended to cause a belief that the material is obscene -- a
complicated matter given the vagueness of the term "obscene" -- the
problems that the law poses are not materially different from the
problems posed by obscenity law in the first place.
So the opinion strikes me as generally quite sound, not much of a
change in child pornography law, and an important but fully expected
recognition of the solicitation/offer exception. The recognition of
this exception requires the Court to define and police the "important
distinction between a proposal to engage in illegal activity and the
abstract advocacy of illegality," the latter of which is protected
under Brandenburg v. Ohio and many other cases; but the Court's
recognition of this distinction, which I just quoted, and the
necessity for such a distinction, leads me not to worry too much about
the future on this score. So on balance it's not surprising to me that
the result was a lopsided 7-2.
References
1. http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-694.pdf (http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/06-694.pdf)
the above is not valid. I was not soliciting anything, do i have to repeat this again? I was not offering or socliciting anything. I was being sarcastic.
there is something called SARCASM
SARCASM
If the above is illegal, then playing a peadophile in a movie would also be illegal.
Understandably, the law exists for a reason. That reason does not exist on fornits.
anyway, why the fuck would a real peadophile come to fornits to solicit anything? are you completely lacking any brains? or are you just the moral gestapo?
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Pedophile is more of a taboo in russia than in the U.S.
BULL FUCKING SHIT.
A heavily disproportionate number of the real sick sites involving little boys end in .ru.
Now maybe the Russian Mafia has their scruples and kills pedos, but they're obviously not doing a very good job if so. There are a LOT of pedos and pedo sites in Russia including the teeny-model or whatever the fuck they're calling themselves now (they rebrand themselves almost as often as programs).
Also, LOL at Internet lawyers. Next up he'll be saying "YOU IMPERSONATED KEN HUEY THAT'S DEFAMATION" and we can laugh at him some more.
Does the mexican mafia controll all the cocaine in the U.S?
NO.
Does the russian mafia control everything in russia?
NO.
Is there even a single organization?
NO.
Peadophilia is illegal in the U.S just like it is in russia, and about as common. The reason you see so many sites is because in russia the internet has absolutely zero regulation. The difference between the U.S and russia is that if in the U.S a peadophile gets found out, they get immediatly arrested and sent to prison where the aryan brotherhood or similar organization will turn them into hamburger. When a peado gets caught in russia, every single person in the prison wants to kill them in as brutal a manner as possible. Not just the AB or other gangs. EVERYONE. there is no protective custody in most cases in russia.
You also have to remember that the country is like the wild west. you can do whatever the fuck you want, and you will probably get away with it. but if the wrong people get wind of it, you are fucked in more ways than one. In the U.S, you cant do whatever you want, and if you do, you will easily get caught.
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I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
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I'll bet he is…or soon will be.^
Uh, Stack,
There’s no point in making your case for sarcasm in follow up posts.
Who knows if aries or anyone reported you.
I’m thinking you’re better off consulting a real attorney (not the imaginary kind) and giving some thought to whether anyone having a look at your hard drive etc. would share your sense of humor.
Eh?
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suck it. i have nothing to hide. I'm not a pedophile, and any investigator who looks into me for ten seconds would know that. I may have a very dark sense of humor, that is true. but so does Quentin Tarantino, Carlos Mencia, Chris Rock, Marylyn manson, and tommy chong. All of those people told jokes, directed movies, and played characters that depicted people doing illegal things, soliciting illegal activity, and acting like immoral jackasses. If you saw a movie, or saw a show where a person was soliciting someone for something illegal, you wouldn't report it, would you? if you saw a movie that had hate speech among other illegal acts (maybe someone screams "fire!" during the movie), that wouldnt be illegal now would it? you've seen borat, right? this thing is a play on what would be for example maybe borat's cousin. If sacha baron cohen, as a skit, solicited child porn, would he get in trouble? NO. He had a "running of the jew" and a gay almost-sex scene, along with a number of other highly inflammatory things in his movie...no one raised their gavels. What happened here is not illegal, it was comedy not solicitation. I hate pedophiles as much as anyone else, and i despise the russian mafia along with pretty much every other criminal organization known to man. Hence the fuckin joke - to ILLUSTRATE THE DEPRAVITY OF RUSSIAN CRIMINAL-TYPES IN A HUMOROUS AND PARTLY FICTIONAL WAY.
If you can remember, the final post by my alter-ego Piniskin Included "I= ::fullofshit:: ". thats smiley for "I am full of shit"
I invite any FBI or similar agent to take come take a look at my hard drive. not an inkling of suspicion of any wrongdoing will arise. No kiddie porn here. I like milfs - i'm subscribed to brazzers. I should probably hide my two grams of weed though, as if the FBI will actually try to charge me for that after I threaten to sue them for harassment.
I used a fake name, and claimed I'm a russian criminal at the Ukrainian embassy in LA. I am most definitely around 2000 miles away from LA. How is it solicitation if there's only a fake name and non desrcript address? For solicitation you need to provide some form of contact information, is that provided? NO. i'm not even sure there is a ukrainian embassy in LA. I dont own a private jet, I've never been to russia, I dont know any russians, and the only russian word i know is Blaht, which is apparently used like "fuck", but means something else...
are you pooping this party because your jealous you're not getting a political position in Voronezh? (HA HA, it's a joke, get it?)
I'm not defending myself against the FBI or whomever might look around this board after hearing about my "piniskin" post. I have no need to, I'm comfident that they will see the attempted humor in it and not interpret it as solicitation. It just peeves me that people have to poop parties and be mr. moral police when they dont take their time to actually read through the text and between the lines. It annoys me that people are so ignorant as to not see humor in things like that. So here i am, wasting my time defending my fuckin deranged sense of humor that everyone else seems to think is funny in person and within context.
and btw, who the hell is stack? i'm not stack, whoever he is....
I used to be a productive member of fornits untill important things like college took over my time, and CHE/psy took over the boards. I also kinda dont give a shit about programs anymore. I just come here to crash the board with my trolling now and then when i'm bored.
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Ah,that’s the spirit. Don’t waste your time with legalities or reality, whatever.
No matter what they call you, you’ll always be pedopath to me.
Meanwhile,life goes on and reality matters to some.
http://http://www.freedomcenter.org/Interesting website to look over. Worth a few moments of your time.
http://http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/
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I'd like to get a job screening such complaints to FBI. I bet it's a riot for whoever gets to do it. Might even work into a sideline at talent scouting or article brokering or some such. :clown:
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LoL. Mentioning “talent scout” is just going to compel the self aggrandizing delusional pedopath to compile a portfolio of what he considers
to be his best work and submit it to the FBI himself.
http://http://www.freedomcenter.org/Interesting website to look over. Worth a few moments of your time.
http://http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/
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Not to distract from the original point of the thread, but on facebook they have this user group of dogooder lunatics who spend all their time complaining to the facebook admins about groups they think are pedos.
I joined the group and have been lurking for awhile just watching them. Their complaints are absolutely hilarious. One guy they got banned from Facebook for saying he'd bang some 14 year old actress if he was under 18.
For awhile I was pondering setting up a fake group of pedos and trolling this dogooder group with it. In the end I decided against it as they blocked facebook in china and I don't like using proxies due to the slow speeds.
What surprises me though is the sheer number of people who use public groups on facebook that are pedophile oriented. When I was looking over the dogooder group earlier I think I'm sure I even saw a Nambla group being talked about.
Whatever happened to pedoes being too damn embarrassed to show their faces in public?
sheesh.
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Slaves are fun. I met this guy in saudi arabia once, he had twenty seven wives. He took me to the market, and his friend offered to sell him a twenty eighth wife. He declined, but bought her for me. We had lots of fun for a few days. You should see what she was able to do with those hookah hoses! it was like straight out of some japanese anime monster-rape porn flick with tentacles and shit.
Then i left the country, and they found out i was actually an infidel jew who only looks arab (we all do...when we get a tan and grow a beard). The slave was set free back to her original master (her father) but then he found out she was already defiled - by an infidel nonetheless - se he brutally murdered her by burying her alive in a mountain of camel poop. That is the law. His neighbors gave him mad props. :twofinger:
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
:hug:
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Dig
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A heavily disproportionate number of the real sick sites involving little boys end in .ru.
Congratulations! This quote has just won the "Stuff-I-Should-NEVER-Claim-to-Know" award!
Yaaaay! :birthday:
I met this guy in saudi arabia once, he had twenty seven wives.
I had a similar experience with a guy like that, once.. except that it was on the way to St. Ives, and he only had seven wives, and each wife had seven sacks, each sack had seven cats, and each cat had seven kittens. I told him that he was an obsessive compulsive freak, and I bought myself a sack of cats before we parted ways.
He got kind of mad at me, though, cause I didnt want the kittens.
Due to the fact that only *one* of his wives is going to have to adjust and carry only *six* sacks of seven cats, (plus some sort of improvised container to house an additional forty nine kittens), I don't think its such a big deal, and I really didn't appreciate having to listen to him shout at me about how I've "totally fucked up the song now."
I'm sorry, I cant afford forty nine kittens, I just bought a whole sack of cats.
If you don't like it, don't fucking sell them. Better yet, just back the fuck off of your stupid prime-number fetish.
.....wait.. what were we talking about?
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Something about how to cook a bag of cats.
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.....wait...what were we talking about?
http://http://www.freedomcenter.org/Interesting website to look over. Worth a few moments of your time.
http://http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/
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Something about how to cook a bag of cats.
You're the one in China. Can you do some research for me?
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the traditional Chinese method to cook cats is not to actually cook them.
you pull some bones out, sow it back up, then stick it in a jar or bottle with some alcohol (wine, moonshine, sake, vodka, whiskey). you let that kitty sit in the container for a few years. when you feel like it (you can wait a few decades if you want) you drink the liquid wine-shine-sake-cat-tea. according to traditional chinese medicine, it gives you the ability to walk silently, jump ten times your height, and always land on your feet. also it also gives you a big cock and tons of sexual stamina, or if youre a girl, bit tits and small feet.
Gives a whole new meaning to whiskey. (hint: whiskers, whiskey, duh, for the mentally disabled among us)
you can also throw the kitty bits into your next stir-fry. also gives big cock and superhuman cat-bilities. If you eat the kitty penis, you get many many children. the younger the kitty and the bigger her litter, the more children you will receive. all i gots to say, is those chiggers love the kitty dick.
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hmm. I thought all of that was for tigers?
I hope people realize that when the tiger finally becomes extinct its going to be because of chinks. People always blame the poachers, and Im like, hey bitch, they wouldnt be doing it if people werent paying big fucking money for it.
Also.. it doesnt look like the chinese need anything to help with fertility. maybe something to guarantee theyll get a boy, since thats the third little girl they had to sell into sex slavery. (damn one-child only law)
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hmm. I thought all of that was for tigers?
no, apparently it's for everything on the planet that was once alive and not completely poisonous. They eat monkeys, snakes, rhinos, hippos, lions, dogs, giraffes, gorillas, elephants, insects, EVERYTHING. supposedly, all of these "traditional chinese medicinal foods" are supposed to all give you a large penis and superhuman abilities. Or maybe just make you think that because you just ate an elephant you will become one somehow in someway and grow a larger penis.
you think they give a fuck about overpopulation? they fuck all they want. if the police find out they really have twenty kids, they just pretend that the brothers and sisters are married and the younger siblings are their kids. Any odd numbered kid that cant be placed is chopped up and cannabilized. the northern chinese are a little more civilized - they run the kid through a meat grinder and mix it with worms, shit, and beef and sell it to mcdonald's as hamburger.
i hate chiggers. good think they will all starve in the coming years, after they exhaust all their natural resources and tear the crap out of the land.
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i hate chiggers
All of them? :seg:
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Just the Han chinese (the dominant swarm-race), and just the ones in China. I have no problem with chinese-americans or chinese-anything elses. It's not the people or the (historical/traditional) culture i hate. It's the current society/government and modern chinese culture i hate. And it's not because i'm a hater - i'm no racist i have no problem with other races. It's the way the chinese are treating the planet, their environment, and humanity as a whole, and the modern chinese people's total greed, ignorance, primitivity, and lack of "thought outside the box" is what i hate.
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Che, you live in the heart of slant-eye rat country. any comment? any personal observations regarding how you may find the Han despicable? Comments on pollution? health? human rights? censorship? food? working/living conditions? social strata? justice? education? mindset? I'd like to hear from you. you always have an opinion, and you have the experience to have the right to speak and be heard in this case....
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.....wait...what were we talking about?
http://http://www.freedomcenter.org/Interesting website to look over. Worth a few moments of your time.
http://http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/
Let's keep this on track.. heh.
Hop on down to the Melting pot for the answers to the last post if yall will.
Thanks.
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oh wait...
Che is in china. IN CHINA. that means if he says anything bad about china, or probably even reads this thread one too many times, he'll be facing a firing squad. or deportation. or get forced to eat monkey brains. or maybe fornits might just be blocked by the government and no chinese person will ever hear about the horribly abusive american troubled teen industry and then try to figure out a way to export it. think of the global implications! if fornits gets blocked it might spiral into a war, with millions of casualties, all on che's shoulders!
poor che.
this is why i hate the Han. there into the whole "keep the people stupid and complacent" song and dance. They go so far as to scare a free-world citizen out of speaking his mind.
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I ate duck foot last week, considered me punished. Post is up down in the melting pot.
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http://www.freedomcenter.org/
Interesting website to look over. Worth a few moments of your time.
Slavery in the 21st Century
Slavery still exists today. Whether it is called human trafficking, bonded labor, forced labor, or sex trafficking, it is present worldwide, including within the United States and, increasingly, in your local community.
An estimated 12 - 27 million people are caught in one or another form of slavery. Between 600,000 and 800,000 are trafficked internationally, with as many as 17,500 people trafficked into the United States. Nearly three out of every four victims are women. Half of modern-day slaves are children.
Slavery Defined
Contemporary slavery has been defined and banned in international treaties and within nations around the world. But outlawing slavery has not prevented its expansion into a multi-billion dollar global industry on a par with drug trafficking and illicit arms sales. Efforts to combat slavery will have only limited effectiveness unless anti-slavery laws are recognized, implemented and enforced by law enforcement officers, courts, and political leaders. Public awareness is also critical: slavery will remain an invisible scourge unless or until an informed public becomes actively engaged and committed in helping identify situations in which some form of slavery is suspected. An aroused public also can bring public pressure to bear those in power to address those cases.
These are widely used definitions of modern slavery:
• Forced Labor: "all work or service which is exacted from any person under the menace of any penalty and for which the said person has not offered himself [herself] voluntarily." -International Labour Organization
• Trafficking in Persons: "recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation." - United Nations
• Trafficking in Persons: "the recruitment, harboring, transportation, provision, or obtaining of a person for labor or services, through the use of force, fraud, or coercion for the purpose of subjection to involuntary servitude, peonage, debt bondage, or slavery." - United States
Slavery: Past and Present
Slavery today is similar to forms of slavery that have existed for centuries in that these characteristics are found:
• Control through violence or threat of violence
• Exploitation for profit
• Loss of free will
Modern forms of slavery however, are much different in several important ways:
• No longer a need for legal ownership
• People caught up in slavery today can be purchased and sold for as little as $100 (compared to 10 times that much in the 1850s). As a result, people become "disposable;" i.e., easily replaceable.
• Slavery cuts across nationality, race, ethnicity, gender, age, class, education-level, and other demographic features.
Slave Labor Uses
• Prostitution, pornography, stripping
• Domestic servitude (e.g. nannies and maids)
• Agriculture (e.g. farms and dairies)
• Hard labor (e.g. construction, landscaping, and mining)
• Sweatshops
• Child soldiers
• Peddling and begging
• Hospitality industries (e.g. hotels and restaurants)
• Other poorly regulated industries
Slavery in the United States
Contemporary slavery/human trafficking remains a reality for many victims in the United States, where both American citizens and foreign nationals are trafficked into and within the United States for forced labor. Victims are men, women, and children and are from diverse nationalities, ethnicities and religions. They are found in any situation where another person is willing to exploit another for profit. Victims have included, among others:
• Members of a Zambian boys choir who were forced to sing to earn their traffickers a profit and withheld from obtaining an education were promised;
• Hearing-impaired Mexicans (men, women and children) who were forced to peddle items on the streets of New York to earn money for their traffickers;
• South Asian women forced to work in a textile factory without pay and with constant physical and sexual violence against them
• Young American girls forced to prostitute themselves on the streets of Los Angeles (and dozens of other cities) while under constant physical and sexual violence from pimps and those purchasing the sex;
• Latino men forced to work on farms without pay, long hours, under armed guard, and constant violence or threat of violence against them.
http://www.freedomcenter.org/slavery-today/ (http://www.freedomcenter.org/slavery-today/)
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http://http://www.notforsalecampaign.org/
BBC: Malawi Children in Tobacco Industry
August 25, 2009 Posted by Allison Trowbridge
In a new report by the organization Plan International, it has been revealed that children in Malawi are forced to work in the tobacco industry and are being exposed to extreme levels of nicotine poisoning. This is another picture of what modern-day slavery looks like in our world.
View the BBC article, in images, by clicking here.
Slavery, Chocolate, and YOU!
August 9, 2009 Posted by Kilian Moote
Earlier this month over 50 young kids, ages 11-17 were rescued out of slavery on chocolate farms in the Ivory Coast, an area continuously effected by forced labor and slavery. As reported on Interpol’s website:
“The children had been bought by plantation owners needing cheap labour to harvest the cocoa and palm plantations. They were discovered working under extreme conditions, forced to carry massive loads seriously jeopardizing their health. Aged between 11 and 16, children told investigators they would regularly work 12 hours a day and receive no salary or education. Girls were usually purchased as house maids and would work a seven-day week all year round, often in addition to their duties in the plantations.”
As a consumer we need to do our part to help end forced labor within the chocolate industry! As a consumer there are three things Not For Sale Campaign will engage you to do:
Free2work.org
Use your power of choice to change demand by joining a community of consumers engaged in this fight on Free2work.org.
Proof of Non-Purchase
Order or download “proof of non-purchases” to encourage your favorite retailer to stock freely made chocolate
Use Chocolate for YOUR next fundraiser:
Not For Sale Campaign has partnered with Sweet Earth Chocolate to create a fundraiser that will support you in your fundraising goal while also supporting NFS Ghana, and the best part is all the chocolate is produced using fair labor practices! For more info email freechocolate@notforsalecampaign.org
NFS Supports Legislation that Helps Prevent Trafficking in San Francisco!
June 25, 2009 Posted by Kilian Moote
Legislation introduced by San Francisco Supervisor Carmen Chu and Mayor Gavin Newsom supported by the Not For Sale Campaign passed with a near unanimous vote. The new legislation will increase transparency and provide additional regulation over the massage industry in San Francisco, an extremely high probability industry in San Francisco for trafficking. Not For Sale Campaign President, David Batstone, provided testimony in support of both pieces of legislation. Among the needed changes this new legislation enhances the ability of the city to revoke licenses from high-probability industries and increases cooperation and dialogue between various regulating agencies, needed changes David has advocated for since the beginning of the campaign.
Not For Sale would like to thank Mayor Gavin Newsom and Supervisor Carmen Chu for their work introducing legislation that would increase the cities ability to prevent trafficking from occuring.
NFS at 2009 Trafficking in Persons Report Release
June 16, 2009 Posted by Kilian Moote
Kristof Reports “Girls For Sale” in America
May 12, 2009 Posted by Kilian Moote
New York Times humanitarian reporter Nicholas Kristof reports on girls being sold into forced prostitution on our own streets. Kristof has often reported firsthand on the horrors suffered by trafficking victims all around the world; however, his new article exposes human trafficking inside the United States. Read the article here.
President Obama’s Next “Anti-human Trafficking Czar”?
April 17, 2009 Posted by Kilian Moote
President Obama has nominated Lou De baca as the next “anti-human trafficking Czar” and we are doing what we can to help ensure he is confirmed.
Throughout his service to the U.S. Government, Mr. de Baca has played a valuable role advising, directing, and enforcing the federal anti-trafficking policies. During his tenure as lead prosecutor, Mr. de Baca saw the conviction of more than 100 traffickers and liberated more than 600 victims, records unchallenged in a post-reconstruction era.
As one of the first governmental anti-slavery and anti-trafficking advocates, Mr. de Baca began working on the issue of human trafficking in the mid-1990s, first pioneering the use of servitude statutes to prosecute exploitative pimps for violating their victims’ rights. During the Clinton Administration he helped convene the first national interagency working group on human trafficking and spearheaded the Justice Department’s efforts to update slavery statutes, which resulted in the passage of the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000.
The Office to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons requires a leader who has an extensive background and knowledge of this issue, along with the ability to cooperate with a diverse constituency, multiple government agencies, and direct a variety of programs. Mr. de Baca’s experience securing traffickers’ convictions, liberating victims, and directing policy has had a substantial impact on the United States success in confronting trafficking.
Mr. de Baca needs your suppor! Sign our online petition to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to support his confirmation!
Calling All Canadians! Human trafficking bill needs your support!
April 10, 2009 Posted by Kilian Moote
A bill introduced by Canadian MP Joy Smith, which increases minimum sentences for offences involving trafficking of minors, needs your support. Tell your MP to vote in favor of bill C-268 to amend the Criminal Code by calling your Parliament Office at 1 (866) 599-4999.
Mrs. Smith is one of the leading advocates in the Canadian Parliament focusing on human trafficking, and a close friend of the campaign. On his recent trip to Canada David Batstone, President of the Not For Sale Campaign, had the pleasure to meet with Mrs. Smith shortly after she had introduced this needed legislation. On March 25th, the 202nd anniversary of the abolition of slavery in Canada, Mrs. Smith hailed the work of the Not For Sale Campaign, our Canadian partners, and creation of slaverymap.ca, in Parliament stating:
Dr. David Batstone, co-founder of the Not For Sale Campaign, has led modern day abolitionists’ to combat human trafficking. I am pleased to commend Dr. David Batstone, Professor Benjamin Perrin and the students of the University of British Columbia “Human Trafficking Working Group” as well as the Canadian Religious Conference for launching the website, slaverymap.ca last week, a tool to track human trafficking cases in Canada.
I would invite honourable members and all Canadians to visit the website, and help end slavery once and for all in Canada.
We are asking that you, our Canadian constituent, support Mrs. Smith and bill C-268 by calling your MP in Parliament and urging them to support this legislation.
As we’ve been following over the past few weeks there have been numerous calls for modern-day slavery to find its way onto the radar of the new administration. From our own wildly successful petition to, New York Times columnist, Nicholas Kristof’s illuminating articles it looks as if our collective voices are beginning to be heard.
During today’s confirmation hearing of Secretary of State Designate Hillary Clinton answered a question on human trafficking:
Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA):
I don’t think we can look away from the plight of women around the world. Nicholas Kristof confronts this issue in a series of compelling articles… Kristof tells us the story of a Vietnamese girl who was kidnapped at age 13. She was sold into sex slavery in Cambodia. When she refused to see customers, she was tortured brutally with electric shocks and locked in a coffin filled with insects. And Kristof details another story in a piece called “If this isn’t Slavery than what is?” in which a young Cambodian girl had her eye gouged out by a brothel owner after taking time off to recover from a forced abortion. I’m introducing some legislation—one is a companion piece to Rep. Carolyn Maloney and another is the Afghan Women Empowerment Act. That’s just the beginning. Senator I know how deeply you feel about this so I wanted you to take a little more time to talk about your commitment to this particular issue and obviously I would be so pleased if we could work on legislation to fight this immorality.
Secretary of State Designate Hillary Clinton:
As Secretary of State I view these issues as central to our foreign policy, not as adjunct or auxiliary or in any way lesser from all of the other issues that we have to confront. I too have followed the stories…this is not culture, this is not custom, this is criminal. And it will be my goal to persuade more governments as I spoke with Beijing some thirteen years ago that we cannot have a free, prosperous, peaceful, progressive world if women are treated in such a discriminatory and violent way. I’ve also ready closely Nick Kristof’s articles over the last many months on the young women he’s both rescued from prostitution and met who have been enslaved, tortured in every way—physically, emotionally, morally and I take very seriously the function of the State Department to lead the US Government through the Office on Human Trafficking to do all that we can to end this modern form of slavery. We have sex slavery. We have wage slavery and it is primarily a slavery of girls and women. I look forward, Senator, to reviewing your legislation and work with you as a continuing partnership on behalf of these issues we care so much about. And finally, the work that the women of the Senate did in connection with First Lady Laura Bush on behalf of the women of Afghanistan has been extremely important. That program started in the State Department. It was assisted by an organization I helped to start in the White House called Vital Voices. Mrs. Bush has been outspoken on behalf of Afghan women…and other women facing oppression around the world… We’re going to have a very active Women’s Office a very active Office on Human Trafficking. We’re going to be speaking out consistently and strongly against the discrimination and oppression of women and slavery in particular because I think that is in keeping with not only our American values but American national security interests as well.
Many thanks to Sara Guderyahn at The Sheridan Group for the transcription.
New UN Report on Human Trafficking
February 12, 2009 Posted by Kilian Moote
The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime is releasing a new global report it conducted on human trafficking today. The report will not mention any new quantitative estimates but instead focus on current global trends.
Some highlights of the report:
• In Central Asia and Eastern Europe 60% of convicted traffickers are woman
• The South African region reported the weakest in combating human trafficking. Of the 11 countries only Zambia has prosecuted suspects since 2003
• 79% of the victims were found to be exploited sexually
• Cases of human trafficking previously overlooked included forced marriages, ritual killings, and organ harvesting
Overall the report found that although efforts globally have increased substantially since 2003 the majority of countries still remain ill-equipped to combat human trafficking.
The full-report should be made available on the UN resources page soon.
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http://http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/india.prostitution.children/index.html
Now this did surprise me, though I suspect it shouldn't given how rife poverty is in India. With the Indian claim to fame of the world's largest middle class of 200 million they over look the 800 million wallowing in cow shit.
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http://http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/11/india.prostitution.children/index.html
Now this did surprise me, though I suspect it shouldn't given how rife poverty is in India. With the Indian claim to fame of the world's largest middle class of 200 million they over look the 800 million wallowing in cow shit.
There's a great documentary about that called "born into brothels", about the children of India's prostitutes, and how many daughters pretty much have no other option but to take up their mothers profession.
India will implode like a rotten melon. Once the cost of living increases because of the better economy, the new middle class will require higher wages, and all of the US companies will go to another third world nation and set up shop there. It's already happened before with Taiwan. (Barbie factory, classic example. shit you not.)
In addition, this will increase the isolation and disenfranchisement of the poor, especially castes like the dalit/banghi.
Wasnt it Gandhi who said that you can judge how advanced a civilization is based on how they treat their poor?
Yeah, well, then India is a filthy shithole, and the dalit are on the bottom, trying to clean it up for five rupees a month. I fucking hate that country. The fact that there is still untouchability is disgusting. Regarding a whole part of your population as less than human. Not even homeless people in the US are treated with such derision. Not even close.
Another great documentary.... "lesser humans". All about the banghi. Fucking amazing film. I posted a link to it in an old thread.
http://material.ahrchk.net/video/lesser-humans.html (http://material.ahrchk.net/video/lesser-humans.html)
That site mirrors the whole film..
(I promise its not a rickroll.)
Its definitely a must see. Serious human slavery. Pissed me off so much. Fuck you, India. Cowfuckers.
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when you have that many people living in an isolationist nation, you need a caste system. otherwise, people would be crawling over each other, killing each other for economic advancement. It'll be whats happening in america and russia (population's mentality that there is a constant need for advancement and social ascent) but at a much greater scale and rate.
china is a diifferent story, different history, with a wholly different place the global economy.
as mentioned before on a different thread, dont go around trying to change other people's cultures. sure, it may be asinine to you, but taboos and accepted practices differ throughout the globe. What works for them wont work for you, and what works for you doesnt work for them. You said it yourself, we tried to make them more like us, and it will fail for them. india is one of the oldest continual civilizations in existence (maybe the oldest) and the system has remained much the same for millenia. changing it now would be too much of a risk.
again, china is a different story. they no longer have their traditional cultural values due to the cultural revolution. chinese society as it stands is going through an experimental, transitional phase that has never been seen before in history.
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as mentioned before on a different thread, dont go around trying to change other people's cultures.
change? psh. I havent even changed my socks in two days. That's not my problem. It's theirs. I have no desire to tell some idiots across the globe to unfuck themselves, especially when it comes to class warfare. It's a horrendously complex process. Go dig up Che Guevara for that sort of bullshittery. (Besides, there are a few maoist and other lefty militias slumming around in those parts blowing up things. Oh GREAT. Reds. That will fix the problem for sure. I fucking hate outsiders trying to liberate the downtrodden on their behalf.)
Besides, I have less concern for the money aspect of this than .. oh, I dunno.. having to clean up human feces with your hands or a piece of cardboard or broom or whatever you can find in the street every day for the rest of your natural life, and you are forbidden to do anything else.
I have no hope whatsoever for India. I doubt they will ever change. They fail tremendously. Their caste system is so complicated and fucked up and ingrained that I think it will be impossible.
Did you watch the film? The bhangi are quite aware of the suckfest that is their lives. Happy little proles they are not. There's a reason why one of the Indian words for "shit" literally translates to "hell".
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i agree with you on that point.
being forced to pick up shit your whole life just cuz your born into the wrong family is really not fair. but what are we to do? start a fornits for the indian caste system?
the only way to fix the problem is to have a revolution. that revolution happened a very long time ago. it was called budhism.....but it still is not widely accepted or understood in india as it is in other asian countries. same thing with the introduction of islam.
you also have to keep in mind that all of india does not follow the caste system. the islamic parts do not follow it, neither do the sikhs, christians, or buddhists. it is only within hindu society
but i must say, the acceptance of such a system within hindu culture both there and abroad says alot about indian character.