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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 20, 2009, 08:03:42 PM

Title: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2009, 08:03:42 PM
Back in the early 80's In Straight Inc., the staff told us that anyone who has taken LSD more than a certain number of times (I think they said 7.?) is considered "legally insane" or some shit.... :rofl:

Even back then I remember thinking to myself what a bunch of crap that is; before I was abducted into Straight by my parents, I had taken acid plenty more times than that... So if that was what being crazy was, then I was senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko....

Yeah right...  ::)
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2009, 11:40:18 AM
Yeah, that's another example of the complete jive that was touted as THE TRUTH by the incompetenent, unqualified LIARS that claimed to know not only about how to treat drug addiction, but also how the legal/medical professions operate.

I've dropped acid over 300 times (including some 1000+ microgram megadoses), have eaten more psilocybn mushrooms at one time than anyone I know of, have smoked DMT more than 10b times, done MDMA about fifty or sixty times, and used a variety of naturally occuring psychoactives.  I smoke marijuana daily.  I guarantee that I am more "sane" (in spite of having been in Straight) than any of the assholes on staff that said I was in the grips of "the insanity of my drug problem".


Fuck Straight Inc. and all other assholes that slander the use of psychedelics.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Anonymous on August 21, 2009, 12:36:15 PM
LSD Psychotherapy - Preface to the 1994 Edition
by Stanislav Grof, LSD Psychotherapy, Hunter House Publishers,
©1980, 1994 Stanislav Grof.

Can Drugs Be Used to Enhance the Psychotherapeutic Process?
by Lester Grinspoon, M.D., and James B. Bakalar, American Journal Of Psychotherapy, Vol. XL, No. 3, July 1986.
The Psychotomimetic Drugs: An Overview
by: Jonathan O. Cole & Martin M. Katz, JAMA 187 No. 10, 1964.

Mescaline, LSD, Psilocybin, and Personality Change
by: Sanford M. Unger, Psychiatry, Volume 26, No. 2, May 1963

The Future of LSD Psychotherapy
The Epilogue from LSD Psychotherapy, ©1980, 1994 by Stanislav Grof.
http://www.psychedelic-library.org/thermenu.htm (http://www.psychedelic-library.org/thermenu.htm)
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on August 22, 2009, 04:19:15 PM
Quote from: "Psychedelix"
Back in the early 80's In Straight Inc., the staff told us that anyone who has taken LSD more than a certain number of times (I think they said 7.?) is considered "legally insane" or some shit.... :rofl:

Even back then I remember thinking to myself what a bunch of crap that is; before I was abducted into Straight by my parents, I had taken acid plenty more times than that... So if that was what being crazy was, then I was senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko....

Yeah right...  ::)

Well, I'm not really sure, but I think the way this myth must've begun, was in a court room somewhere, in which the defense lawyer pro'ly defended his client with an insanity defense based on the defendant's proven use of LSD.  If the judge accepted the argument that would set a legal precedent.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Anonymous on August 25, 2009, 11:24:44 AM
Quote from: "starry-eyed pirate"
Quote from: "Psychedelix"
Back in the early 80's In Straight Inc., the staff told us that anyone who has taken LSD more than a certain number of times (I think they said 7.?) is considered "legally insane" or some shit.... :rofl:

Even back then I remember thinking to myself what a bunch of crap that is; before I was abducted into Straight by my parents, I had taken acid plenty more times than that... So if that was what being crazy was, then I was senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko....

Yeah right...  ::)

Well, I'm not really sure, but I think the way this myth must've begun, was in a court room somewhere, in which the defense lawyer pro'ly defended his client with an insanity defense based on the defendant's proven use of LSD.  If the judge accepted the argument that would set a legal precedent.

I tend to agree that this is how the myth of "LSD makes ya crazy" got started.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on August 28, 2009, 12:58:56 AM
Quote from: "Psychedelix"
"legally insane" or some shit.... :rofl:


Sorry to be so serious... :seg2:
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Antigen on August 28, 2009, 01:16:13 AM
Naw, I think it was more like GHW Bush's CIA covering their bare, tender asses after having driven some poor hapless folk out of their minds while experimenting with the shit for 1interigation/indoctrination purposes.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: starry-eyed pirate on August 28, 2009, 01:40:17 AM
Quote from: "Antigen"
Naw, I think it was more like GHW Bush's CIA covering their bare, tender asses after having driven some poor hapless folk out of their minds while experimenting with the shit for 1interigation/indoctrination purposes.

O! Was that it!  I don't know.

 :beat:  :beat:  ;D

'sup Ant'
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Antigen on August 28, 2009, 02:22:46 AM
I'm just guessin'. Lost another phone and all my numbers, so please call and tell anybody else to do the same.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Anonymous on December 21, 2009, 10:10:47 AM
musheenead_32
Here's the most ironic thing about this post: I was in Str8 '83 to '84 and I strongly suspect that we were slipped hallucinogens in our food @ the 'building' (along w/other types of drugs). Just another experiment conducted by the string-pullers @ Str8.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: seamus on December 21, 2009, 02:28:09 PM
I never did acid till long after straight,and as Ive said before,If straight was sane then sign me up for crazy. T'was all jive folks,write it off.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2009, 03:04:14 AM
What else can you say? They showed us this film when I was in school.(I know I'm an old fart) It never stopped me.
http://www.veoh.com/collection/ephemera ... 97j2TyGDa# (http://www.veoh.com/collection/ephemeralfilms/watch/v64212797j2TyGDa#)
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Froderik on December 22, 2009, 06:33:08 AM
Quote from: "musheenead_32"
musheenead_32
Here's the most ironic thing about this post: I was in Str8 '83 to '84 and I strongly suspect that we were slipped hallucinogens in our food @ the 'building' (along w/other types of drugs). Just another experiment conducted by the string-pullers @ Str8.
Really? I was there then, and can't say I noticed anything like that.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: shaggys on December 22, 2009, 11:12:15 AM
I was locked up during that time too and I can tell you the "food" served at the building wasn't laced with anything except terrible taste. In Atlanta they initially got the food donated from some local dive(almost inedible really bad stuff) then later a phasers mom came to the building everyday to fix lunch. I stayed at this womans house for awhile and can assure you she was not a secret gov't agent. As for the "Uncle Sid" I never did it until after I was out of Straight. Unfortunately, it tends to upset my stomach so I don't play there anymore. The 420 makes it all good though.  Shaggy
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: Anonymous on December 22, 2009, 12:39:38 PM
I;m just sayin'...yeah I hear ya 'bout the secret agent stuff..just seemed like a lot of people were 'playin' different roles there....trying to be intriguing or something...i could be wrong...just wish I had demanded a drug test be done on me immediately following release...
But here is another possible motive for slipping stuff in the food: drug co. clinical trials for psyche meds and things like that? (i personally had never taken them b-4 Str8, but was prescribed Ritalin or something post Str8 for ADHD or whatever that vague diagnosis was)

I won't post anymore on this issue 'cause, in the end, I guess you guys're right....doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Straight, LSD, and "Insanity"
Post by: evan j rodgers on April 26, 2010, 07:17:21 PM
Actually, this myth about insanity is one of many myths from the fountain of misinformation about LSD. The myth of
anyone who took acid 7 times or more is legally insane was a myth that did not start in Straight.I had heard that myth
from friends long before going into Straight, although Staff there was misinformed enough to continue to spread that
kind of information. I've done extensive research on LSD and the facts are:LSD does NOT kill brain cells. LSD leaves a
perons body quickly throgh urine. They used to say it stays in your system forever in your spinal fluid or whatever, this
is not true.LSD is not physically addictive.However, some people could cut LSD with other dangerous chemicals, that can
be a real danger. Alot of verry successful people like Paul McCartney and Bernie Taupin have done acid and it seems
to have enhanced their artistic creativeaty. I have had good trips and verry bad trips. The real tragedy is the fact that
LSD is still highly illegal. People are in prison for dealing acid and that is sad. In fact possesion of large amounts of acid can
be a verry real jailable offense. The lies, myths and misinformation about acid is the stuff of legend. I would not blanketley
recomend it to anyone or for that matter demonize it. I think incarceration in Straight caused all kinds of psycological damage more severe than acid for alot of people.Remember the extereme paranoia and crazy "head games" people
went through in there?  Blessings, Evan J Rodgers