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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy => Topic started by: Troll Control on August 13, 2009, 05:50:50 PM

Title: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Troll Control on August 13, 2009, 05:50:50 PM
Has anyone heard that HLA will close its doors on 8-28-09?  This information is circulating through the parents of former students.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Troll Control on August 13, 2009, 06:53:23 PM
Anyone have any info on this?
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2009, 07:19:08 PM
There is nothing in the court papers, last  filing 8-12-09.  BB&T wants relief and HLA declared a "single assest real estate debtor", HLA does not .  HLA is delinquent in filing reorganization papers according to BB&T motions.  HLA answered that they will file reorganization.  Sept. 18th is the BAR date for filing of creditors.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Troll Control on August 13, 2009, 07:43:09 PM
Very interesting.  Anyone else have anything to add?
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2009, 07:53:02 PM
BB&T's motion is just legal bullshit. A single asset debtor is one that just uses the property in and of itself as rental income, like a strip mall, office complex, apartment complex, etc.  Figuratively, some here on Fornits may think HLA just rents rooms, but legally, thats a giant stretch.  It's just a BB&T lawyer trying to earn a paycheck.  Sorry, but it'll get dismissed.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2009, 09:25:19 PM
HLA is "closing" and the end of the month only to reopen as "RidgeCreek School".  This is supposedly differet than Rigdecreek... See the web site.  Just a marketing and business decision.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2009, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: "truthtroller"
BB&T's motion is just legal bullshit., like a strip mall, office complex, apartment complex, etc.  Figuratively, some here on Fornits may think HLA just rents rooms, but legally, thats a giant stretch.  It's just a BB&T lawyer trying to earn a paycheck.  Sorry, but it'll get dismissed.


HLA, INC.  leases the property to HLA.   HLA, INC. received income from the lease.  It was the way it was set up.  Although the past few years, no income was generated according to Buccellato.  Sorry, it may get dismissed, but it IS leased income property.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2009, 09:50:49 PM
Quote from: "informer"
HLA is "closing" and the end of the month only to reopen as "RidgeCreek School".  This is supposedly differet than Rigdecreek... See the web site.  Just a marketing and business decision.

It makes sense as the last month Buccellato has been pushing Ridge Creek to Ed. Cons. re: Educational Program
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2009, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: "informer"
HLA is "closing" and the end of the month only to reopen as "RidgeCreek School".  This is supposedly differet than Rigdecreek... See the web site.  Just a marketing and business decision.

HAHA! like that will help any......
it will take two seconds to plaster HLA=RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL all over the net.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 14, 2009, 05:04:07 PM
I spoke with a former counselor and that source tells me they are reorganizing.  Another parent who has spoken to a different former counselor says they are running on a skeleton staff and have little to no student body.     I don't know what to believe
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2009, 10:38:05 AM
There is no question about what to believe. think carefully, read between the lines.

The two staff you spoke to are saying the exact same thing. One is being totally honest, the other is trying to keep up appearances. One speaks with the best business interests of the school in mind, the other couldn't care less about the business interests of the school. They ARE running on skeleton staff. Their student body has been under thirty students for nearly a year now, and has been steadily declining. they ARE re-organizing though, in the attempt to attract more business. Regardless, one can come to the conclusion based on what both counselors said that HLA is in dire straights right now.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: RobertBruce on August 16, 2009, 12:14:17 PM
Buchi has no one to blame but himself. He can try and start a new day with Ridge Creek if he wants, but he's still going to be held accountable for his actions.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
Quote from: "RobertBruce"
but he's still going to be held accountable for his actions.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one RB! You said that completely deadpan, too! Nice!
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 16, 2009, 01:47:11 PM
The problem is he has never been held accountable, nor have the agencies, the attorneys or the retired Lumpkin County Judge.  There is the possibllity, he will re-open the place with Juvenile Offenders because that is all he can get and we all know too well he snuck the court ordered children in. It is a lucrative business as the DJJ are so overcrowded..  With the ORS working  in conjunction with Buccellato promoting the school to the DJJ, it will be a given, unless the DJJ balks...That was in 2007-2008 with Mountain Brook...with Chris Grimwood leading the charge to the DJJ for low level offenders.  The DJJ Director told me they were told the facilities were separate from HLA and she was going to visit to confirm. If i recall correctly, that was in early 2008 during the GAO investigation.  Well, now, with HLA gone, the facilities will be separate, which opens the door once again.  A few changes to make it a lock down and he is back in business with State Funding and families forking over funds for court ordered children.  Quite lucrative. It leaves the ORS with more mud on it's face, but hey, who is to stop them. At that time, when the DJJ Director told me that the ORS was in favor of granting him a lock down facility...that sealed the deal for me.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Troll Control on August 17, 2009, 12:26:39 PM
Maybe it's time to go back to the town board and see if we can put pressure on them re: DJJ offenders at RCS.  Tey flew off the handle last time when we killed off MBA.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2009, 11:44:37 AM
Someone who worked there until very recently told me there are 8 or 9 DJJ kids there as we speak, and that was the reason she left, because they scared her to death. If the school is housing young hard-core criminals and psychos, shouldn't it have a secure fence, shatter-proof glass, tamper-resistant locks? She said it didn't. If the neighbors knew this, they would probably rise up like they did over Mountain Brook. Paging Matt Akin, Dahlonega Nugget.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Troll Control on August 18, 2009, 12:10:29 PM
Man, that is messed up.  Does HLA have a license to take DJJ kids?  Time to contact the town board...
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2009, 06:32:07 PM
The above poster who said "he heard it from someone who just left" if full of shit.  He obviously made it up. There aren't any DJJ offenders currently at HLA.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2009, 06:32:42 PM
It's time to contact Billy Wells... ( Billy doesn't want his adjoining property value to sink) The FTC for sure.  ORS(unfortunately) SACS(unfortunately) just for documentation..  There are five schools marketed on the internet by Buccellato and Co.  with the same address, same marketing pictures, etc.  Could be more, who knows.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2009, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: "truthtroller"
The above poster who said "he heard it from someone who just left" if full of shit.  He obviously made it up. There aren't any DJJ offenders currently at HLA.

And whom might you be?  Does that include THERE ARE NO COURT ORDERED CHILDREN 'CURRENTLY' AT HLA?
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: RobertBruce on August 18, 2009, 07:04:06 PM
HLA has long played the game claiming that there are no court ordered kids enrolled there. They do so by (only when confronted with facts, otherwise they just out right lie) claiming that the kid in question is always given a choice between prison, or HLA, therefore he's not ordered per se, cause he had a choice. No discussion is had on the fact that he was given a choice due to the fact that he committed a crime, and that he is generally kept there and cannot be removed, even if his parents want him to leave.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 18, 2009, 09:52:46 PM
Quote from: "truthtroller"
The above poster who said "he heard it from someone who just left" if full of shit.  He obviously made it up. There aren't any DJJ offenders currently at HLA.

Wrong, truthtroller. I check out everything I post here before I post it. It all turns out to be fact. Go back and check it out. They're there.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2009, 12:16:28 AM
Now what?  How does one stop this insanity?
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 19, 2009, 01:41:50 AM
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=n ... eek+School (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS331US331&q=DJJ+GA+%2b+Ridge+Creek+School)


Conference April 2009 Savannah GA...    After DJJ, etc... Scroll down to [G5]  Chris Grimwood Ridge Creek...   a little positioning..  Chris was the liason for Moutainbrook's marketing to the DJJ. when Buccellato was trying to open Mountainbrook on HLA campus,(after being shot down by the town council to open next to Billy Wells)trying to give the  notion to the DJJ that HLA, Ridge Creek and Mountainbrook did not share facilites.  It appears positioning started for Ridge Creek School.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Troll Control on August 19, 2009, 09:21:46 AM
With a name like "truthtroller" you ought not to be lying outright.  Obviously whatever connection you have ot had to HLA doesn't allow you any insider perspective.

I agree about contacting Wells, because his property is right next to a now juvenile detention center with no fence, locks, security system or security personnel.  If I were in his position I wouldn't let the little queer boy ruin the remaining meager value of my property.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 20, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
wells has been anti-HLA since day one. If kids would so much as put one foot on his driveway he'd come running out yelling and screaming, then tear bucci a new hole on the phone.  He hasn't done anything effective yet, nor will he be able to. He also doesnt give two shits about the kids, he just wants to be left alone.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2009, 11:48:44 AM
It's August 28th!
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2009, 03:52:57 PM
Going, going gone, looks like they pulled HLA from the internet.  http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/ (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/)
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2009, 04:12:38 PM
Correction -  Chris Grimwood is still with the little general, only Hollowhead left.  Grimwood is leading the charge at Ridge Creek, if you would like a teaching position or wilderness instructor position contact Chris.
Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Troll Control on August 28, 2009, 07:43:50 PM
Quote from: "guest 9"
Going, going gone, looks like they pulled HLA from the internet.  http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/ (http://www.hiddenlakeacademy.com/)

No better time than now to buy the domain RidgeCreekSchoolIsHLA.com or some similar name and post the facts about HLA and Len Buccellato there.  A little SEO will have it Googling above Ridge Creek School on that query.  Everyone should know that RIDGE CREEK SCHOOL IS HLA.

These people know it's the same shit sandwich... (http://http://www.familylight.com/link3/3.03/3.032/RS/RidgeCreek.htm)

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During this past spring (2009), the programming under the Ridge Creek name expanded to include Ridge Creek School.  Recently, Ridge Creek has expanded into the buildings of Hidden Lake Academy. This is currently a combination academic (4 days per week) and wilderness (3 days per week) program.  Currently (August, 2009) it is our understanding that those who enroll prior to August 15 are eligible for a $3600 per month tuition for the contract period -- a remarkably low price for this kind of service.  We understand that the tuition rises to $4800 for students entering after that.  We understand that Ridge Creek might be flexible about permitting a later entry at the lower rate for people in communication with their admission office prior to August 15.  Check with Ridge Creek for details.  Expected length of stay is six months, but this can be extended.  This opportunity targets boarding school students who have had a disciplinary problem and seek re-admission to the boarding school  they left.  

The wilderness program has also set special bargain rates.

Ridge Creek will also accommodate students who complete their wilderness program and need to remain a short additional time period to complete academic requirements.

FamilyLight sm visited and inspected Ridge Creek back in the days it was simply a wilderness program. We are also familiar with the physical plant of Hidden Lake Academy.  We have confidence in the programming and the staffing.  We have seen the physical plant but we have not been able to assess the adequacy of the physical plant to meet the needs to students attending school four days per week.  We are not suggesting inadequacy.  We anticipate all is well.  But we have not observed it up close and personal. We encourage taking advantage of the bargain rates, but encourage checking out the physical facility. We emphasize that we anticipate that when doing, so you will find the facility satisfactory.  

Note that we are not fully assessing the Ridge Creek program as it may or may not fully conform to our guidelines, at this time.

Title: Re: Hidden Lake Academy Closing 8-28???
Post by: Anonymous on August 28, 2009, 09:35:17 PM
"FamilyLight sm visited and inspected Ridge Creek back in the days it was simply a wilderness program. We are also familiar with the physical plant of Hidden Lake Academy. We have confidence in the programming and the staffing. We have seen the physical plant but we have not been able to assess the adequacy of the physical plant to meet the needs to students attending school four days per week. We are not suggesting inadequacy. We anticipate all is well. But we have not observed it up close and personal. We encourage taking advantage of the bargain rates, but encourage checking out the physical facility. We emphasize that we anticipate that when doing, so you will find the facility satisfactory.

Note that we are not fully assessing the Ridge Creek program as it may or may not fully conform to our guidelines, at this time."

FamilyLight is owned by Tom Croke, an ed consultant in PA. Like some other consultants, he doesn't have a high personal regard for Bucchi. But like ALL other consultants, he sees the threat that a few determined people can pose to his corrupt industry, so he, like all the rest, will now circle the wagons and defend the little bastard regardless of the damage he has done and will continue to do to kids and their families as long as he is in business. Hidden Lake is gone, but Bucchi is still around; and as long as he is, we can not let up on our efforts to expose him for what he is and get the truth out there. Eventually, we will win; but it ain't over yet. Keep fighting.