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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Che Gookin on August 02, 2009, 11:41:38 AM

Title: Arming The Children...
Post by: Che Gookin on August 02, 2009, 11:41:38 AM
This thread is for the creative development of weapons so that kids in programs can protect themselves from violent, predatory, and sexually abusive sicko staff members.

http://http://www.easymidget.com/new/stories/0901_shank.shtml

I plan on expanding this into a full fornits wiki article on inciting a program rebellion. Throw out your ideas on how to go about such a thing if you have any.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Inculcated on August 02, 2009, 02:57:56 PM
Hate those pesky body searches? Getting sick of the flimsy reasons they keep coming up with to take your clothes away and run their fingers through your hair?
-“confide” to them while they’re doing this that you think you might have lice. This will only work once per pervert /per location unless you can somehow manage to actually be infested then in that case kudos on your dedication.
-Screaming or crying will only incite the drama ghouls vomiting spontaneously is not so hot.
- (Done at WC ‘Love you Kats) Soap the bathroom floor. Refuse to exit the shower, so when they call a “Dr. Rush” the back up called into this nightmare will fall.(Btw,” Dr. Rush” is a term called on the floor in some psych settings for back up during restraints. When I first arrived,I heard this called out so often that I naively inquired of one of the other kids about this “Dr.” )
-Faking a seizure disorder during a restraint will probably not be as effective as touted to be during an assault on the outside, if you are in a TC. Many here have told of how the staff tend to dismiss even real medical issues as being a manipulation.  If you think it could work in a pinch; give it a try.
(Pro tip common seizures rarely involve flailing motion)
If you’re in a hospital setting where they continually perform unnecessary EEGs for bio feedback this will not be as effective. This might go a little farther in the RTC environment.
-T.A.C.' s experience teaches us that pretending to be a big Lez will lessen the likelihood of your counselor’s calling you a slut. (Though it may make the nurse Ratchets a problem).

I guess all of these have variable outcomes. Understanding your environment and the personalities of your abusers is key to deciding which tactics might help your situation.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2009, 03:53:21 PM
You have pens and pencils, right? Your "caregivers" want you to emotionally bond, right? Okay. Get very close to one of them. The moment she thinks you're the most emotionally vulnerable, tell how much you appreciate her- and then interrupt yourself by stabbing her full force in the eye. Don't tense up, don't prepare except for keeping the pen where you can reach it. Give no warning whatsoever.

Then immediately do the same to the other eye, permanently blinding her.

Then laugh.

It's not rocket science, kids.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 02, 2009, 04:06:59 PM
A prison sentence or even longer psych stay (for fulfilling everything they malign their captives as being) is not worth even the intense momentary gratification of stabbing one of them in the eye.
 ::poke::
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Che Gookin on August 02, 2009, 09:26:31 PM
Now now people, let's not play submissive here. You have to take control of your destiny by force of arms if necessary. It is every person's obligation to do so in the face of tryanny. Preparing these kids for an armed uprising against their captors is a logical resolution that will bring the intense scrutiny of the media and state to bear upon the facility.

Everyone acknowledges the risks of course, but what action for a child in a program is risk free?
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Inculcated on August 03, 2009, 02:04:36 AM
Eliscu2,
That’s a messed up law. How do they snake around the HIPPA to prosecute?
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Inculcated on August 03, 2009, 02:05:58 AM
Che Gookin,
I like the concept, but an insurrection like that would have to be vast and really well coordinated, in order for it to not have serious consequences
 (the possibilty of lengthened incarcerations) for the kids involved.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Che Gookin on August 03, 2009, 04:29:32 AM
They are already incarcerated, so how is the threat of being legally incarcerated an overwhelming concern?
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: M_Hilton on August 03, 2009, 05:52:38 AM
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
They are already incarcerated, so how is the threat of being legally incarcerated an overwhelming concern?

depending on the program jail might be better >.> thats not saying much

but yea most programs go to leinghts to keep this from happening
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Che Gookin on August 03, 2009, 07:47:31 AM
That I know from helping to supress a riot at Three Springs. Wasn't a pretty scene, but had it been properly timed the entire program would have been left helpless to respond.

Clearly this idea needs expanding upon. Anyone want to post flyers out front of programs once we work something up? It would give the programmies the worst case of heartburn ever just thinking about it.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Inculcated on August 03, 2009, 09:28:40 AM
Unless you get the insurrection organized down like Chuck Palahniuk wrote the play book , Kids it might be better to just “spontaneously vomit” on anyone who lays a hand on you.
That said, do you think a palm full of baby powder could temporarily blind someone?
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: M_Hilton on August 03, 2009, 12:24:33 PM
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
That I know from helping to supress a riot at Three Springs. Wasn't a pretty scene, but had it been properly timed the entire program would have been left helpless to respond.

Clearly this idea needs expanding upon. Anyone want to post flyers out front of programs once we work something up? It would give the programmies the worst case of heartburn ever just thinking about it.


unless every one is on board it wont work and you wont get every one no way it will say hidden the the time it would take SOME ONE will spill and the whole place will be on lockdown
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: M_Hilton on August 03, 2009, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: "Inculcated"
That said, do you think a palm full of baby powder could temporarily blind someone?

no but some chilly powder and pepper will make them have a bad day
really want to do some thing

bleach + windex = chlorine gas
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Inculcated on August 03, 2009, 02:11:48 PM
M_Hilton,
Hmm. I'll keep it in mind with the sock wrapped chain thing.Learning is fun.
Che Gookin,
Maybe a coordinated uprising orchestrated by well chosen staffers placed on the inside could work.
They have keys.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Che Gookin on August 04, 2009, 01:56:15 AM
Maybe if yall grow balls or something. Seriously, this isn't a CIA orchestrated overthrow of a Central American government. These are pisswater programs that employs the bottom rungs of the IQ ladder types and reformed drug addicts. You don't have keys?

Put a lock in a sock and fuck up one of your guards and take his.

Need a phone?

Make a shank and hold one of your abusers hostage till they give you one.

either way a violent overthrow of a program isn't as hard as some of you are making it out to be. Distributing the literature is the hardest part about it. I wouldn't even try to bother.. I'd rather mail copies of it to program directors to watch them froth at the mouth knowing what we naughty kids on Fornits are up to.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Inculcated on August 04, 2009, 04:58:48 AM
Quote from: "Che Gookin"
You don't have keys?
Che,   
If I had had a set of … keys things would have gone very differently at the “cottage”.
I do like that you’re brain storming ideas. They make me feel warm inside.

Remember kids: Projectile vomit on any staff that put their hands on you.::puke::
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 04, 2009, 08:33:37 AM
Quote
Distributing the literature is the hardest part about it.

http://www.megaphoneusa.com/ (http://www.megaphoneusa.com/)

CM-25 megaphone
25 watts, 1000 yards range, pistol-grip talk switch, siren alarm switch, microphone with coil cord, 8 C-batteries included, volume control, bell diameter 9", length 13", weight 4 lbs, and with shoulder strap.

1K yards > 1/2 mile

Assuming you have the balls, the time, and the transportation, from anywhere within a 3.14 million square yard area (thanks, basic geometry), you can communicate anything you want to the kids, violent or not. I strongly recommend getting closer than the full 1000 yards, do it at 500 and maybe penetrate some walls.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Che Gookin on August 04, 2009, 09:12:53 PM
Now that would be epic.. Youtube it if you do it.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2009, 09:36:47 PM
Che gookin likes to make butt chocolate compact, like fudge cake rammed with sausage. yes, yes, you do! you like that big hairy man cock up your ass and chingachong cock in your mouth. the only thing che likes more than cock in shphincter and cock and mouth, is two big multicolored cock in his shfincter like icecream cone swirl and one in his mouth.
Guest
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2009, 09:53:32 PM
manboylove,

Walk to Eric  the Midgets house and pay him %2.50 to fuck you in the ass.  When your done, I'll mail you a pack of smokes.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 10, 2009, 10:42:14 PM
thanks for the smokes, che!
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:11:04 AM
Psst Che, there’s a self hating closeted troll with ill concealed frustrated homoerotic longing right behind you!
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:13:49 AM
yes, che, please!!! TIE ME UP AND SPANK ME LIKE YOUR MOMMA DID YOU!!!!
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:18:12 AM
Keepin it real in this one, hunh? See now that's good troll you're getting in touch with your true longings.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:18:14 AM
Keepin it real in this one, hunh? See now that's good troll you're getting in touch with your true longings.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:32:25 AM
dont get exited yet. everyone gets a turn. including you.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:37:10 AM
What would sombody from your era say to that? Hmmm...Grody?
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:45:23 AM
Just Plain Old delicious. you better learn to like it.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 02:51:22 AM
PLain OLD troll trying to cop a cyber feel off a troubled teen site?
Go take some fiber gramps and maybe your cramps will feel better and you'll get a new outlook on life and sing that hello darkness my old friend song or watch cacoon or knit a cozy or whatever
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:00:15 AM
I prefer cocaine, leather, and sodomy. with che
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:04:39 AM
Niles is that you? Ches not a coke whore.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:04:39 AM
Niles is that you? Ches not a coke whore.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:04:39 AM
Niles is that you? Ches not a coke whore.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:09:31 AM
I am many miles from niles.

and che IS a coke...erm....crack(to be exact)whore. hold a five dolla rock in front of his face and he'll let you do anything to him all night.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:12:34 AM
See you're just wishing for some gay love troll that's all go find a gay troll to do your nasty business with
Che is in to humans
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:16:26 AM
Che is one of us. He has suppressed his natural tendencies long enough he must rejoin the tribe.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:19:44 AM
He's evolving try it. AND STOP TALKING TO THAT KID
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:22:23 AM
I havnt seen much of a change in his ways. still a wolf in sheeps clothing.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:24:12 AM
What quagmire do you propose would better suit him?
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:26:26 AM
vietnam
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:27:54 AM
that was over inthe 70's or 60's
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:31:41 AM
he's been called on a secret mission to help his people. he must infiltrate his homeland and incapacitate his people with sleeping gas. then we will ship the entire population of vietnam over here, and clone and test the subject so that every little boy and girl in america can have their very own authentic vietnamese sex slave for 9.99+tax.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:33:18 AM
That child is in need of salvation and isn't that the point? I don't think they understand that vietnam is a place.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:37:32 AM
shut up but my point is it's over
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 11, 2009, 03:43:20 AM
che's in the hizouse
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2009, 01:05:52 PM
che's in deshfincter!
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2009, 08:38:10 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO look at me I'm such a loooser!
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2009, 09:39:10 PM
woooooooooooo look at me i'm che gookin! i'm a slanteye yellow man with a deep seated homosexual thirst for bearded cuban revolutionaries! i want to give kiddies ak-47's and hand grenades and let them rebel against the programs! (as if it's going to make the situation better not worse)
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 12, 2009, 10:10:48 PM
you're not che and you are a racist.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2009, 12:06:24 AM
I'm not CHE but you are.

I'm not a racist. I Hate everyone equally.

"What is the best way to circumcize a redneck?
kick his sister in the jaw"

"What do you call two Mexicans playing basketball?
Juan on Juan"

"How many Mexicans does it take to roof a house?
8 if you slice them thin enough."

"What do you call a black guy driving a black Cadillac?
Black power.
What do you call a white guy driving a white Cadillac?
White power.
What do you call a Puerto Rican guy driving a blue Cadillac?
Grand Theft Auto."

"What do you name a retarded Asian?
Som Ting Wong"

"How do you know if a Chinese person has robbed your house?
Your homework is done, your computer is upgraded, but two hours later, the ****er is still trying to back out of your driveway."

"What do u say if it's pitch dark in your room and your TV starts to move?
'Drop it, nigger.'"

"What do you call a black guy with no arms and legs?
Trustworthy"

"What is hard and long on black people?
Third grade"

"Why shouldn't you run over a black guys bike?
Because it might be yours!"

"What do you call 2 blacks in a sleeping bag?
Twix"

"Why do racists carry chainsaws?
Because they go run nigga nigga nigga nigga"

"How do you blindfold an Asian?

With dental floss. "

"There was this Spanish guy, this Korean guy and this Russian guy all
working for the same construction company. At the beginning of the day the
boss comes out and says to the Spanish guy, "You're in charge of the
cement."

Then he said to the Russian guy, "You're in charge of the dirt."

Then he said to the Korean guy, "You're in charge of the supplies."

Then he said, "I'm gonna be back at the end of the day to check on your
work. It better be good or you're fired."

So they all go off to go get their work done.

At the end of the day, the boss comes back to check on their work. He
looks at the big pile of cement and goes, "Good work," to the Spanish guy.
Then he looks at the big pile of dirt and says, "Good work," to the Russian
guy. Then he couldn't find the Korean guy so he asks, "Where the heck is
the Korean guy??"

All of a sudden, the Korean guy jumps out from behind the big pile of dirt
and yells, " SUPPLIES!""

"What do you call a drive by shooting where a Chinese guy gets shot?

CAPPUCINO (CAP-A-CHINO)"

"An Asian man walked into the currency exchange in New York City with 2000 yen and walked out with $72.

The following week, he walked in with 2000 yen, and was handed $66.

He asked the teller why he got less money that week than the previous week.

The teller said, "Fluctuations."

The Asian man stormed out, and just before slamming the door, turned around and shouted, "Fluc you Amelicans, too!""

What's the difference between an apple and a black man?

none! they both hang from trees.

There's 2 black guys walking down the street and they see a sign that says "You too can be white for 75 cents."...so...one black guy has a dollar and the other has 50 cents...so...the guy with the dollar went in first so he could give the other guy the quarter left over....so....the guys goes in and he comes out white..then the other black guy goes....hey....give me that other quarter.....and the white guy goes....Get a job, ****in nigger...

In order to save on vacation costs, two secretaries are rooming together.
On the first night Jill turns to her friend, puts her hand on her shoulder, and says,
"There's something I've been meaning to tell you about myself. I'll be frank,
I'm a lesbian."
"That's OK," says the other girl. "I'll be Frank tomorrow night, I'm a lesbian too."

A young black kid observed that there seemed to be some advantages
in being white, so he went off and painted himself white all over. He went
and showed his mother who roused on him, and told him to go and show
his father. This he did, and his father not only roared at him for being so silly,
but cuffed him over the ears and sent him on his way. The boy went on and
sat on his favorite log pondering his position and feeling very glum. His mate
came along and asked him what was wrong.
"I've only been a white kid for half and hour," he replied, "and I hate those
black bastards already!"
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Anonymous on August 13, 2009, 01:01:15 AM
I WANT ATTENTION!!!!!!


*even if it means destroying this board in the process.
Title: Re: Arming The Children...
Post by: Oscar on August 15, 2009, 01:26:33 PM
I am against use of any violence but lately one of the only group homes in Denmark (Solhaven) (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Solhaven_(Denmark)), which is rather controversial and want to change the teenagers who they detain have experienced that the teenagers on home visits use pepper spray or hire local thugs to beat the staff up.

I have google translated some of the articles:

Boy used pepper sprays against teacher (http://http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=da&tl=en&u=http://www.nordjyske.dk/aalborg/forside.aspx%3Fctrl%3D10%26data%3D28,3341328,2875,3)

Four patrols might get 15-year-old (http://http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=da&tl=en&u=http://www.nordjyske.dk/Aalborg/forside.aspx%3Fctrl%3D10%26data%3D28,3326025,5,3)

The kids are arming themselves because they don't want to be sent away and when they return on home visits they enjoy a status as to tough guy, so I believe that solutions, which could be used in the community must be the solution in the future.