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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: SyN on August 18, 2003, 03:05:00 AM
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do you guy have some guy posting anonymously w/ all kinds of nazi hate crap?? he seems to be getting round. just wondering..
SyN
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all the time asshole...
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Piss off you anonymous piece of shit!
You're no better than anyone.
Go post on a KKK message board where you can find people who are as stupid as you are. :flame:
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wow hope thats not directed at me. we got the same scum in the elan forum, just seein if he is in others too or just fukn w/ our forum. where is straight located?
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Man! I just knew it was a good day to stay in bed!
As far as I know, the hateful nazi crap hasn't seeped into the other forums on this server. I honestly think it's an Elan supporter trying to derail any productive conversation over there. Just a guess. Nothing to get upset about, really. Just ignore it.
And Straight, Inc. now operates under a couple of other names in Orlando (SAFE), Ohio (Kids Helping Kids), Detroit (Pathway Family Center) and, once removed, Lake Worth (Growing together, which spun from LIFE which spun from Straight <- The Seed <- <- DaytopSynanon) There are probably others that I don't know about.
The legislature is to society as a physician is to the patient. If a physician ignored side effects of medications like today's legislators ignore the side effects of their legislation, the physician would be accused of malpractice. I accuse today's legislators (with rare exception) of legislative malpractice. Many of the ills that are so obvious in our society are a direct result of previous legislation. Their solution? More laws!
-- John A. Bennett, DO
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Ginger Warbis ~ Antigen
American drug war P.O.W.
10/80 - 10/82
Straight South (Sarasota, FL)
Anonymity Anonymous
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so it was like the elan concept but did u have to stay for extended periods, groups n all that b.s???
SyN
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We were in group from 9am to 9pm six days a week, Sunday from noon I think until 9pm. On Friday and Mondays we had to endure open meetings were the parents would attend as well as prospective new admissions. On these days we might get out around 1 or 2 am after we got confronted for hours about the smallest infractions. It was brutal to say the least. Average length of stay was from 18 months to well over two years. Straight was and still is the Grandaddy of ritualistic government sanctioned child abuse.
Rich Mayflower Survivor 81-82
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See elan u didnt leave which really sucked. peers guarded peers and were forced to restrain thier friends, some how that was supposed to be theraputic. way to many groups. but there was a place in CT i was in for like 2 weeks till i got booted that sounds like straight. but parents were in your groups? that sux. elan had one group parents attended where you had to scream at them for whatever seemed to be bothering you then they kiss make up, n go out to lunch. then go back to elan for 2 more years. it took alot of time to turn 18.
SyN
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In straight, in the early days, it didn't matter if you were 18 or not. Once you were in, there were only two ways out: Cop-out (split) or graduate (7-Step). That was it. Sometime in the mid-eighties a former client sued straight for false imprisionment and straight couldn't smear this indivdual as "druggie" scum and the jury found for the plaintiff. Many nice things came from the fallout. People over 18 could most definitely withdraw, there were less friends helping (restraining) friends, beatings that kind of thing. I guess that old habits die hard or more likely the execs and such found that most of the strong-willed youths they were trying to brainwash just wouldn't change without being beaten and subjected to things that would get most people very long prison terms. Striaght became brutal once more. At least this time the suit were easier to prove as they could show prior abuse as evidence. The place was incredibly brutal, both physically and emotionally. There were many staffers that took real pleasure in dishing out consequences and being as strong (mean) with the phasers (clients) as possible. To have compassion for another was considered weakness. Striving to separate yourself from the rest of society was considered strength. Total relaince on the group (straight) for all approval and comfort was perfection. The perfect phaser wouldn't wipe their own ass unless the group told them it stank. Straight excelled at breaking down the self and turning people who left striaght into worthless piles of goo who only after many YEARS of therapy, professionaly and otherwise, could become acceptable, productive, responsible members of society. Many former clients were incapable of making this adjustment and committed suicide. Many, many more are still stuck in the rut of their straight programming. These will be the same type people who didn't know what that smell was comming from the concentration camp in Nazi Germany. I'm terribly sorry for them, but it is the burning bodies of those that could no longer carry on and survive.
Clay
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you a princess mononoke fan clay? im way into anime' a buddy of mone is hooking me up w/ a program to turn my pics into movable crude anime'. ima try n post my new flicks here on fornits. So straight was court orderd mostly? elan was mainly parents shipping out their kids n thinking it would help; which it did for some but only helped others become bullshit artists. thanks to all who have responed in here by the way. the elan site is so full of agro idiots im glad to finally type with some level headed peeps.sorry if im asking 2 many questions bout your program, im just trying to corelate yours w/ mine, let me know if i ask to much. another thing i like inhere(real quick) is that there arent allot of anonymous peeps you all semm real.
SyN
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Hello Sinister, in my experience, my parents were willing to help me stop using drugs, since I was 21 and had made a choice to get help. The local pastor referred them to a detox place where I spent about 45 days. It was almost double the normal time, but, either way, that place recommended I go to straight, inc. Aw jeez, that was screwed up. You see, the straight marketing people targeted white middle and upper class families at churches, schools, detox centers, etc. I was like a ripe fruit ready to pick I suppose. That was in early 1983 AFTER the lawsuit, but, of course the program directors never mentioned that the program had just gotten in trouble. But anyway, I do not think most people were court ordered. They were forced by their parents or guardians to go. I know of at least one intake that was claimed to be court ordered, but 18 years later it was discovered that it was not. Them straight inc administrators idea of "treatment" totally screwed up so many people and their families. Some stayed with the program until it was shut down and changed names. I have not heard much from them on the net lately. I think most of them feel really guilty and want to forget it all ever happened. Either way, straight inc was a hellhole of epic proportions wherever it operated. Problem now is that it is STILL going. ARGH!!!!!! :smokin:
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whats up metal god. yeah it does suk that these places are allowed to opperate w/ as much leeway as they have.But brainwashing bringz in the big bucks for both the state and for the federal govt, so i guess they just look away. it suk and i wish i could just shut em all down w/ the push of a buton, but it does help some people i guess. didnt help me much but to become better at bullshiting. Any friggin way glad to meet u clay, metal god froderik n antigen talk to ya'll latta
SyN
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u too walstib 14 :wstupid:
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did they have school at elan? since you couldn't leave and all. how old are you? when were you in? how long?
i apologise if you've answered those questions and i didn't see it.
btw - i like anime. i was princess mononoke for halloween two years ago. have you seen spirited away? (i'm sure you have) mosamune shirow is my favorite manga artist and 'ghost in the shell' and 'appleseed' are my favorite mangas.
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i luv anime. if i could i would work in the indusrty, but i bought a liquor store instead. ihave an extensive collection. one u should check out if you haven't seen it is perfect blue. its a fuggin mind trip. oh i could go on and on about it. if you want you can i.m me my yahoo i.m is MrSyNiStEr01, im allways down to talk w/ another anime lover. oh real quick, another bomb anime is BERSERK. im 24, yes elan had school. 4 hours every nite but weekends. i was in 96-99 straight. no home visits non of that just the program. they had hella tight security cause kids there made sure u didn't leave. we guarded the doors stayed up all nite to watch and be sure no one split, males couldnt touch females or u were fukd. only talk to them in a professional manner. if you got out of line you got a gm. which was 40 to 45 of your peers in your face cussin and screaming at you for how u fukd up and what a bad person u were blage' blah. then u scrubbed floors for a month and started all over again.
drop a line mo.
SyN
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'ghost in the shell' and 'appleseed' are my favorite mangas.
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Hell Yes! Ummm, Mo as Princess Mononoke....
CL
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:wstupid:
The above is me....
CL
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I agree -
Would love to see Morli as the Princess.
MMMMMMMM Burger! :smokin:
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okay, that's enought shameless self promotion!!
btw - how am i a hoot mr. clay? :wink:
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nice pic. could see ya as her. anime is the shizzle. im way to deep into dbz though allmost a freakin religion. never seen appleseed though whats that all about?
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Morli! You're a hoot!
CL
[ This Message was edited by: ClayL on 2003-08-22 05:48 ]