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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Aspen Education Group => Topic started by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 12:14:36 PM

Title: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 12:14:36 PM
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/con ... _0122.html (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2006/01/22/m1a_NEWREARDON_0122.html)

RIP, Shane.  ASR never helped you to deal with your addiction, and you and your family paid the ultimate price for it.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: TheWho on July 16, 2009, 12:30:44 PM
All told, family members and friends said, the Reardons spent more than $100,000 trying to help their son recover. Swift River was their last hope."Jeff's heart was broken that he had to put him in there," Cavanaugh said. "It hurt him terribly."

Shane was allowed few visitors. But he spoke to his parents often and even recorded a rap video for them, in which he's laughing and telling his parents how much he loves them and appreciates their support.

It made Jeff and Phebe laugh every time they saw it. It makes them cry every time they watch it today. And they watch it often.

By the time Shane graduated from Swift River, he was a role model to his peers. Everyone saw a change. He had a tattoo applied to his chest, with a heart, a cross and a crown of thorns and the word "Salvation" written across it.

"He was thoroughly convinced he was all better," Cavanaugh said. "But it's awfully hard to go back and mix with society."

The Reardons were nervous when Shane deemed himself ready to go on with his life, but they were encouraged by his decision to attend college.

Shane began studying recording arts at Full Sail, a film school in Winter Park, which also teaches music, art design and media production.

The only thing that truly worried Jeff was when Shane reconnected with a friend from his troubled youth. The boy also had problems with drugs and alcohol, and the two partied together as teenagers. Still, the friend approached Jeff directly and convinced him he was clean. Jeff agreed to let them share an apartment minutes from campus.

"He had all good intentions that he would never do anything like that again," Jeff's mother said of her grandson. "And then, he went to college. He must've gotten in with the wrong crowd."

Shane was arrested and released on bond for marijuana possession in North Palm Beach in August 2003. But on Feb. 21, 2004, the Reardons' worst fear came without warning.

Shane was found dead in his Winter Park apartment.

He was 20 years old.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 12:46:47 PM
This is the problem with ASR.  Kids LOOK LIKE they have solved their problems, but in reality, it is just that they BEHAVE when locked up so as not to prolong the experience.  As soon as they get out, they go right back to their ld ways as a consequence of not receiving any real treatment.

I think TheWho can verify this.  His daughter cam home from ASR, dropped out of high school, hooked up with old friends, cut off her dad (TheWho) and got into drugs and alcohol big time.  It's common.  

At ASR the kids "fake it till they make it" (out) and then their problems become evident once again.

ASR MASKS the problems, but it doesn't treat them at all.

RIP, Shane.  We all wish you could have gotten real help and you were still with us today, but ASR cut your life short.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 01:41:51 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
This is the problem with ASR.  Kids LOOK LIKE they have solved their problems, but in reality, it is just that they BEHAVE when locked up so as not to prolong the experience.  As soon as they get out, they go right back to their ld ways as a consequence of not receiving any real treatment.

I think TheWho can verify this.  His daughter cam home from ASR, dropped out of high school, hooked up with old friends, cut off her dad (TheWho) and got into drugs and alcohol big time.  It's common.

At ASR the kids "fake it till they make it" (out) and then their problems become evident once again.

ASR MASKS the problems, but it doesn't treat them at all.

RIP, Shane.  We all wish you could have gotten real help and you were still with us today, but ASR cut your life short.

Someone actually ASKED for your input HERE, Who.  This is where you should be repsonding.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: TheWho on July 16, 2009, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: "Guest"

Someone actually ASKED for your input HERE, Who.  This is where you should be repsonding.

Hey thanks for the heads up...

But that still keeps us at a 99.7% success rate for ASR .... we dont have stats on visiting oldfriends.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Please provide a citation that can be verified regarding your alleged "success rate."  An anonymous posting from some guy on the internet just isn't going to suffice.  And please do it in another thread.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: TheWho on July 16, 2009, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Please provide a citation that can be verified regarding your alleged "success rate."  An anonymous posting from some guy on the internet just isn't going to suffice.  And please do it in another thread.

Sorry, here you go:

 citation in another thread (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=337666&sid=9238a3cfeb0a44d577bb5e29b48f9485&sid=9238a3cfeb0a44d577bb5e29b48f9485#p337666)
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 02:08:12 PM
Sorry an anonymous post linked to an anonymous post won't work.  Only a handful of ASR kids have ever graduated, so five dead from one class is a big deal.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: TheWho on July 16, 2009, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Sorry an anonymous post linked to an anonymous post won't work.  Only a handful of ASR kids have ever graduated, so five dead from one class is a big deal.

You are right if only 5 graduated from ASR then it would be 100% failure rate.  But if 1,000 kids have graduated from ASR than they are experiencing a 99.7% success rate.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 02:19:08 PM
Only 1000 kids didn't graduate ASR, only a handful did.  Please post the graduate list consisting of 1000 names so we can believe you.  Otherwise, you're just trolling.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: TheWho on July 16, 2009, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Only 1000 kids didn't graduate ASR, only a handful did.  Please post the graduate list consisting of 1000 names so we can believe you.  Otherwise, you're just trolling.

So only 5 kids ever graduated from ASR?  If that is the info you gathered then it says alot about your capabilities and you can stay with that if you like.  But if 100 kids graduated ever year for 10 years then ASRs success rate would be 99.7% over a 10 year period which is fantastic and worth every dime.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 02:27:46 PM
Only that didn't happen.  You just made up some numbers.  Show me the names of these "1000's" or you are just trolling.  Post the graduate list.  So far, it looks like nobody has graduated because you haven't shown one that has.  You made the claim, now back it up.

How About These Stats? (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27994#p337693)
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: TheWho on July 16, 2009, 02:34:06 PM
So if no one has graduated than there would not be a divisible denominator and again you are right on this.  But my point is if 100 kids graduated ever year for 10 years then ASRs success rate would be 99.7% over a 10 year period which is fantastic and worth every dime.

As far as posting the names of kids on the internet.  I dont think this is wise and even you would have to agree with this here.

I think this is something most readers would agree with.
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 16, 2009, 02:57:08 PM
Sorry, no back peddling allowed.  You made a claim that ASR has produced 1000 grads.  I deny that.  You must provide some sort official document to bolster your claim or you're just pissing in the wind.

How About These Stats? (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27994#p337693)
Title: Re: RIP Shane Reardon, ASR VICTIM
Post by: Troll Control on July 17, 2009, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: "Guest"
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/content/sports/epaper/2006/01/22/m1a_NEWREARDON_0122.html

RIP, Shane.  ASR never helped you to deal with your addiction, and you and your family paid the ultimate price for it.

 :peace: