Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on July 03, 2009, 10:11:10 AM
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http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/ ... 934073.txt (http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2009/07/02/updates/breaking_news/doc4a4cf9bd9a299025934073.txt)
Gotta love this story!
By Ken Kosky
ken.kosky@nwi.com, (219) 548-4354 | Thursday, July 02, 2009 | (4 comment(s))
CHESTERTON | The acclaimed drug treatment center for adolescents and their families that opened in Porter County after receiving $200,000 from county government and $100,000 from a local nonprofit organization is closing.
Pathway Family Center is shutting down its site in the Chesterton area at the end of this week because of the weak economy and because the facility was not getting enough referrals to sustain services, according to an announcement put out by the organization.
"It's a very sad time," said Mann Spitler, who advocated bringing Pathway to Porter County.
Spitler is president of the Community Action Drug Coalition, which provided $100,000 in seed money to bring Pathway here in 2007.
"I still feel it (providing money to Pathway) was the right thing to do at the right time," Spitler said.
Spitler said a lot of drug treatment centers have shut down, and Pathways' failure does not reflect on the quality of treatment. He said Northwest Indiana residents who need long-term treatment can use Pathway's Indianapolis facility, and he said there are treatment options provided by local organizations, like Porter-Starke Services.
Bob Franko, Porter-Starke vice president of development and marketing, said Pathways' closing is "unfortunate," but Porter-Starke is ready to pick up the slack.
"We have always offered adolescent substance abuse services and, in fact, recently enhanced our services," Franko said.
Spitler said despite Pathways' failure, the CADC would consider funding future initiatives that could help fight the county's drug problem.
Porter County Commissioner Bob Harper said bipartisan support led the county to contribute $200,000 support to bring Pathways to the county. But he said the county might be more hesitant in the future to help fund another drug treatment organization. However, Harper said the county needs a comprehensive study about what the county is doing and should be doing to alleviate the drug problem.
Spitler, who lost his daughter, Manda, to a drug overdose in 2002, noted the county has seen record numbers of fatal overdoses in recent years. County statistics show 32 overdoses in 2008 and 14 so far this year.
Porter County Drug Task Force Coordinator Robert Taylor said he wasn't surprised when Pathways communicated to him that the center was closing. Many families just can't afford to pay for drug treatment.
"It's too bad (Pathways failed)," Taylor said.
"The dollars and cents weren't there. I don't blame them."
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So what, precisely, happened to the taxpayer's money?
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It was ACCLAIMED? :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: Acclaim this---> :twofinger:
PFC acquired what, like over $600,000 to open up shop there in Porter Co. Oh, and let's not forget the FREE RENT and DONATED renovations.
Yeah, it aint the lack of $$$, it's the fact that they are GOING OUT OF BUSINESS. Their lies can only lead to ruin at this point.
WOOHOO!!
ok, sorry, I'm just getting really excited about this as I drove about 30 hours back and forth in the snow to personally attend that dog and pony show "PFC Pitches to Porter County IN" meeting in 2007. WHEW!
Anyway, yes, the Taxpayers were BILKED, MILKED and may become ILKED, :rofl:
Next step is to bombard the news folks with this info. HAGIT???? HELLO!!!
RG
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Excellent! 3 down, 1 to go! I guess the numbers dropping in Indy were a good sign after all.
Another article:
http://www.post-trib.com/news/porter/16 ... 03.article (http://www.post-trib.com/news/porter/1650401,pcpathway0703.article)
Financial woes shuts residential care site
July 3, 2009
By Charles M. Bartholomew, Post-Tribune correspondent
CHESTERTON -- Thursday was the last day for office workers at the Pathway Family Center, the residential care and referral facility for teens and their families who face substance abuse problems.
Clinicians will see the last clients next Thursday, according to Pathway CEO and President Terri Nisseley, who described her mission as, "We save kids."
After that, families seeking help will have to take their troubled teens to the agency's facilities in Indianapolis as much as several times a week, as they had to before Pathway opened its Porter County location in 2007 at the invitation of the Community Action Drug Coalition.
Among the center's free services that will stop are a hot line that handled 420 calls last year and a community education program for youths, teachers and health care workers that served 24,320 people, Nisseley said.
"Not having residential care here puts them in a bind. I know first-hand working with kids ... the importance of a residential treatment center," said Portage High School Resource Officer Troy Williams, a member of the local board for Pathway.
Local officials agree with Nisseley's claim that the center's adolescent treatment programs are "very successful" in turning young people away from drugs.
On the Web site www.pathwayfamilycenter.org (http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org) , Porter County Sheriff David Lain says that Pathway "has proven to be successful in this fight. They are having an impact with the most vulnerable victims of addiction; adolescents and their families."
Nisseley said this week the county still has a "huge" need for this kind of treatment, but the demand necessary to support the center financially never materialized.
"You know the saying, 'Build it and they will come?' I now know that idea will not work."
She said the center had been started with high hopes of those who had asked Pathway to come here. The center sought $1 million in local funding in support. They started with $200,000 from the Porter County Council and the amount from the Drug Coalition, but fundraising and referrals never covered the costs.
In addition to the recently-recession, she blamed ongoing Hoosier insularity.
"I think there was political pressure for people in positions of referring kids for help not to change their referral patterns," she said.
She said those positions included "anybody working in the justice system, school systems, local treatment programs."
"I wouldn't go there," said Pathway board member Robert Taylor, coordinator of the Porter County Drug Task Force with the county Prosecutor's Office when asked to comment on her statement.
But he agreed strongly with her about the effects of the economy and the financial obstacles to families seeking treatment.
"Treatment at the center can cost $15,000 to $20,000. Most people have to borrow -- it's like sending your child to college," he said.
He said he often referred teens to the center and will continue to do so.
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well please excuse my fowl language, (aftrer all Im a product of the obsolete automotive industry, thnks dad!!) because I have some steam to let off. My name is Renee Ratza and I can tell any and all readers of this post the ABSOLUTE facts about the FRAUD AND OUT-RIGHT SCAM PFC AND THE 100'S OF OTHER PRIVATE PRISONS OUT THERE IN THE U.S. TODAY WHICH MAIA S. WRITES ABOUT AND WELL ,THE WHOLE REASON THIS SITE, YES FORNITS, EXSISTS TODAY. What the fuck is wrong with these highly educated, professionals, who run our courts, city townships, schools, principals ect.......Helloooooo....all you psychiatrists, therapists, senate, congress, Judges for christs sake!! there are alot more Bernie Madolff"s out there.......As for Spitler I can tell you were the dollars went but Im still fucking smoking over the "sense"...
Terry nissley I know the joke is really on all of the people in Ohio, Michigan and Indy that donated, the govmt grants, all tax payers, and the last laugh is on us, but you know what Terry I told you that you messed with the wrong family and I ment it, go fuck yourself bbiiaattcchh! I got my satisfaction being the inside undercover parent who had a little more psychological experience, legal experience, drug experience for that matter, than your so called expert unliscensed help. OOOOOOOOHHHHH DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE EDUCATION THING, I COULD REALLY SCRATCH YOUR EYES OUT FOR FUCKING UP MY SONS FUTURE SCHOOLING. Are you gonna come after me and call me a fucking wacko too!!!!LOL LOL LOL I got 11 months of clean blood and hair testing at my insistance, to prove you fucking wrong for making such wild accusations about me to the court system. (and guess what I still got custody) You power hungry wench. Pathway Family Services the whole fucked up "special ed program" summed up in 3 words P O W E R A N D C O N T R O L (and Levi West's mom should be absolutely ashamed of herself.....absolutely ashamed
To all you Michigan fans, remember that one friday open meeting when I had a good time making fun of that place and all the professionals there, well the last laugh was on you booo hoo boo hoo. You fucked with the wrong family, next time dont you ever refuse to let me speak to my son in private again. And guess what PFC I can also personally attest to the false percentage of success rates published and promoted so adamently as grossly incorrect. Let see out of the 29 kids I encountered during my 8 months of undercover work, some kids who were in there 12 to 24 months , I have first hand knowledge that 12 had relasped within 2 to 3 months after MI PFC had there doors closed for keeping these kids out of school, Im sorry for PFC lieing about their education program. Well guess what my son is not one of the relasped he has celebrated over 1 yr clean. Its not becasue of this place........the reason he was stuck on level 1 until the place got closed, is because, for 1. his paranoid/annxiety stricken, high intense pressure power and control hungry dad, yeah pretty bad when the kid wanted to stay there in stead of going back to his dads and 2. he was knowledgable of the unprofessional treatment he endured there and refused to go against what he knew was right. (you see having a very close girl/family friend dual degreed Psy field being one of them specility w/ kids, well she taught and reinforced "who owns the problem and BOUNDARY LINES, AND CORRECT I MESSAGING.) and personally when I stood up in parent group, which was nothing more than a pathatic support group to me cuz I learned absolutely nothing, honestly, no joke, And said," well group honestly I feel psychocology sounder, stronger and more knowledgable now than Ive ever been in my life, and not because of this place " well I was being honest and ment it. As for My son, hes no dumb cookie, has shaken off the brain fuck endured and he says to me now and again I cant believe they (peer and "professional" staff) tried to make me believe that I had and addiction. And he still knows that if anyone wants to do drugs or drink they are gonna, no matter what you do to try to stop them. and at any cost, not even $66000.00 is not gonna do it. dah!
sorry to bounce around I could go on for hours......As for the increased overdosing happening I think our kids need to be educated on quanity and volume and mixing. What the hell is wrong with these kids, at 13 14 or even 15 I was smart enough to know you dont take 5 pills at a time are you fucking stupid. Ive heard numbers like 8 or 10 in stories are they fibbing to look macho. so then others think well so and so took 20 so I can take 8 and be ok . I mean these kids are getting way more information than I ever got as a kid growing up dealing with the whole 10 yards of the drinking and drug sceen. Is volume and quanity addressed? I mean where do these kids get their info on volume. Was I just smart enough to know that??? Or what. One can only get so high, one can only get so drunk period. Before you lose consciousness, and that my friend is when its to far, once you crossed it ,its to far. why do people want to get high to pass out, please kids explain to me the fun in this cuz I dont get it. One thing I do know as a parent is to have that open line of communication, patience, understanding, and have realistic expectations. Lets face it kids today are gonna be living with their parents forever. What kind of jobs or gonna be left and at what rate of pay. even with a coillege education ..............
So RG this toast of sweet victory I dedicate to you, cheers my friend!!!!!! FREEDOM could not came at a better time then the fourth of july........ : :cheers: :birthday: :birthday: :cheers: :seg: :seg: :seg: :seg: :seg: :
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Thank you Renee, please, it is you who gave me a load of FACTS and inspiration I need to do what I do when dealing with PFC. Your courage to speak out in the midst of that CULT is testament to your strength. The ROCK shall remain steadfast against all storms!! Thank you Renee, for all you did, are doing, will do in the future and have a happy 4th for sure! Perfect timing. You better believe that I am raising a toast to you right now!! :rocker: :rocker: :rocker: :rasta: :rasta: :cheers:
BTW, DMHA has formally refused to divulge ANY information regarding PFC and complaints and/or investigations. CARF is also refusing to comment. If anyone has any, and I mean ANY information regarding this hush hushness, please let me know...
I saw that PFC is involved in a lawsuit right now, but West is not the plaintiff.
RG
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And the most full of shit article yet...
http://www.chestertontribune.com/Police ... ter_cl.htm (http://www.chestertontribune.com/PoliceFireEmergency/7399%20pathway_drug_treatment_center_cl.htm)
By VICKI URBANIK
Seven months after moving to its new location in Porter, the Pathway Family Center’s drug treatment program for adolescents is shutting down in Porter County.
Bob Taylor, coordinator of the Porter County Drug Task Force Unit and a local Pathway board member, said it’s his understanding that the facility on Canonie Drive closed Thursday. He said Pathway has also closed its facilities in Ohio and Michigan for the same reason -- inability of families to pay for the treatment.
“Financially, I don’t think people could afford it,” he said, citing the current economic climate. “The whole thing is a mess.”
Another Pathway board member, Community Action Drug Coalition President Dr. Mann Spitler, said when the CADC first approached Pathway about branching into Porter County, Pathway projected that it would need $1.2 million to operate a local facility. Pathway, a non-profit organization, provided $120,000, while local sources contributed another $512,000, including $200,000 in county economic development income tax funds.
However, Spitler said with expenses totaling $899,000 through the end of June, the total funding wasn’t enough.
“They just couldn’t sustain it,” he said.
Both Taylor and Spitler agreed that the troubled economy is the main reason for Pathway’s closing. Spitler noted that Pathway has never turned away anyone for treatment, but that many families still felt they couldn’t afford the services even when offered on a sliding scale. Taylor said if families did have private insurance to cover the costs of drug treatment, many have lost that coverage due to job losses.
Spitler also said that a federal loan program that helped cover the costs of adolescent treatment came to an end more than a year ago, making it even more difficult for families to get the help they need.
Taylor said the need for an intensive adolescent drug treatment programs definitely has not gone away in Northwest Indiana. He cited an increase in thefts from vehicles in north Porter County; the thefts are attributed to the drug problem, he said, as thieves take small change and pawn the stolen goods in order to buy drugs.
“Hopefully, Washington will wake up and see that the problems they think they’re solving are getting worse, not better,” he said.
Pathway came to Porter County with much fanfare, with the CADC identifying the Pathway program as one of its priorities and with bi-partisan support from county officials to award the $200,000 in one-time program start-up costs. Taylor said he believes those county funds have been spent and cannot be recovered.
After receiving the county funding in 2007, Pathway opened a temporary facility in Chesterton that provided services such as drug screening, clinical assessment, and a 24-hour parent help line. Last December, Pathway announced that it assumed a lease from McDaniel Fire Systems for a 9,000 square foot building at 804 Canonie Drive in Porter. The agreement relieved the organization from having to pay rent or utilities until May.
Despite the closing of Pathway, Spitler remains optimistic that local programs can help put a dent in the drug problem.
Last year, CADC hosted its inaugural Manda’s Race, named in memory of Spitler’s daughter who died after a heroin overdose. The event raised about $5,000, a portion of which was donated to the Chesterton based Frontline Foundations, a faith-based treatment program for 18 to 25 year olds; Spitler said the funding provided scholarships for two people to get drug treatment. The CADC has also contributed to Chesterton High School teacher Dave Milligan’s substance abuse class.
Spitler said the CADC will continue to support the smaller scale projects. “I’m very hopeful we can expand on what we already have here,” he said.
Porter County officials have said that combating drug use has been a top priority. In May, the Porter County Council approved a recommendation from the commissioners for $458,665 in income tax funds for a new men’s halfway house in Valparaiso for those recovering from addictions. But unlike the county funding awarded for Pathway, the halfway house funding came with an agreement that if the halfway house fails, its assets would revert to Porter County.
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Posted 7/3/2009
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!! Expenses $899,000???????? HAHAHAHAHA Aw MAN!!! ::fullofshit:: ::fullofshit:: ::fullofshit::
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This statement is unfounded and ridculous, as if he knows in every case that theft is a symptom of drug use.
"the thefts are attributed to the drug problem, he said, as thieves take small change and pawn the stolen goods in order to buy drugs."
It turns out that if parents research Pathway they tend to not place their kid there. The poor economy is definitely a factor but not the only factor.
"He said Pathway has also closed its facilities in Ohio and Michigan for the same reason --inability of families to pay for the treatment."
Terri Nissley slips out with the cash again. Maybe her theft of county funds was to buy drugs.
"Pathway came to Porter County with much fanfare, with the CADC identifying the Pathway program as one of its priorities and with bi-partisan support from county officials to award the $200,000 in one-time program start-up costs. Taylor said he believes those county funds have been spent and cannot be recovered."
And this is my favorite quote from the article:
“The whole thing is a mess.”
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The following statement is solely based on conjectural, speculative and assumptive probabilities and hunches. No claims of its factual basis or otherwise truthful nature should be either assumed or implied. Thank you... lol
Each of the PFC sites has (had) its own budget. If I were to acquire let's say, some free rent and renovations on a building and $ over $600,000 in cash, I think I could rent or have donated to me 25 or 50 or so POS chairs for the kids to sit in during the day. I mean, what's left? phone? electric? water? Maybe $500 per month utilities? Oh, then there's the VOLUNTEER peer staff, or minimum wage at best, so that's what, 50,000 year total, or, let's say $100,000 just for argument's sake.... We'd have to have at least one nurse and doctor on call... another $100,000 for that... ok, other money coming in to the account... so then there's the $20,000-$60,000 program fee per client, plus the bullshit incidental charges, and all sorts of grants and fund raising cash, PLUS the 50/50 lottery they play on Friday nights... wow, so either way, after a year, we're only at about what, $400,000 in EXPENSES? How the hell is ONE building that NEVER got going costing PFC over $600,000? Holy shit sherlock!!! Well, they'll say that the donated furniture in Chesterton and all that DONATED shit they got there COST them money and that $200,000 is long gone. But, why then have they not yet filed their 2007-2008 taxes? LOL... Someone is in some DEEP SHIT!!!
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I would guess that part of the reason they pulled out of Porter is due to estimations based on recent intakes, which there were probably few to none. I think Terri saw the writing on the wall and decided to pull resources (financial) to bolster the failing Indianapolis program.
After all, Indy is where she started and probably feels most comfortable. Also, she has a lot more solid connections there. As for where the money went and the lack of the 2007-2008 tax return, I agree that there seems to be some funny business going on. She is an accountant, she probably got smart about hiding money after she got caught scamming the IRS with her Amway scam. The enornmous amount of money that (had) come in from the parents and fundraising should have been way more than enough to keep all of these programs running.
The bottom line is, Pathway Execs got used to spending a lot of money with their pay and "expenses" and didn't foresee a poor economy and people willing to speak out about their damaging program. Now there seems to be a scramble to stay afloat. I don't think Nissley will dig into her personal savings to help "kids get off drugs" though. She has her priorities you know. I wonder how her real estate company "KenTer Homes" is doing right now? maybe that's where the money went, into her own private real estate purchases?
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Yeah, Terri started in Michigan BTW... please don't distort the facts dude. :beat:
ah, whatever, it's a state thing, indiana being one of the most INEPT in the nation at being able to protect kids. Remember, CARF is why PFC has a license in Indy, not DMHA. CARF gets lots of $$$ from ONDCP related programs/grants... connect the dots.
WHERE IS MARK WEST??????????????????
RG
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Yeah, Terri started in Michigan BTW... please don't distort the facts dude. :beat:
ah, whatever, it's a state thing, indiana being one of the most INEPT in the nation at being able to protect kids. Remember, CARF is why PFC has a license in Indy, not DMHA. CARF gets lots of $$$ from ONDCP related programs/grants... connect the dots.
WHERE IS MARK WEST??????????????????
RG
I read that Helen Gowanny started Pathway in Michigan and Nissley started Pathway in Indianapolis. That's what it says in this article:
http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2007/0 ... 029674.txt (http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2007/01/14/news/top_news/cf626038b2d3e5dc8625726300029674.txt)
"SECOND GENERATION
Pathway Family Center, Detroit - founded 1993 by HELEN GOWANNY, 15 miles from the old Straight facility near Detroit
Phoenix Adolescent Institute, Marietta, Ga. - founded in 1993 by KATHLEEN CONE, five miles from the Straight facility in Marietta.
Pathway Family Center, Indianapolis - founded 1993 by former Straight parent Terri Nissley
Kids Helping Kids, A Pathway Family Center, Cincinnati, - Penny Walker"
It also states that Nissley started in Michigan in this same article so am I "distorting facts" or is this just an ambiguous article? Maybe... get off my back RG? There are more important hairs to split.
I jusy found out about Mark West and his whereabouts very recently. He does not wish to share those details and I will honor his wishes.
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If you have a website called pfc TRUTH, it makes sense that it should spout TRUTHFUL information. But, since you do not do your own research, at least from what I can see, very little at best, you keep posting BOGUS info. So, get off your own back dude. :seg:
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If you have a website called pfc TRUTH, it makes sense that it should spout TRUTHFUL information. But, since you do not do your own research, at least from what I can see, very little at best, you keep posting BOGUS info. So, get off your own back dude. :seg:
Well, that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.
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Opinion?
Here's my opinion:
I really want to just be done with this whole pile of shit called pfc, straight, whatever else you name it. You say "Well.... that's your opinion BLAH BLAH BLAH... " Yeah, ok, WOW!!! Now, because YOU say I am entitled, I guess I really am. At least SOMEONE out there (you) agrees with me, :roflmao: No wonder people commit suicide. DAMN!
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I find the bickering on this thread disturbing and will reply later.
Anyway, I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of....
FUCK THEM ALL AND FEED THEM BEANS!!!
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Yeah Frod, I couldn't agree more. Where's that bridge? Anyone seen the bridge? :roflmao:
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Opinion?
Here's my opinion:
I really want to just be done with this whole pile of shit called pfc, straight, whatever else you name it. You say "Well.... that's your opinion BLAH BLAH BLAH... " Yeah, ok, WOW!!! Now, because YOU say I am entitled, I guess I really am. At least SOMEONE out there (you) agrees with me, :roflmao: No wonder people commit suicide. DAMN!
Bill,
Although I agree with you on most points, your SUICIDE comment was uncalled for and insensitve to siblings and parents of the deceased from SUICIDE.
This is neither a funny thing or something to be used as an ascendancy in an argument with another survivor. Please retract the suicide statement.
Thank you!
-DP
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Hey DP, nobody's family called me to complain. If they do/did, I would apologize for what? Stating facts? I would be glad to explain to them what I mean by what I wrote. If you can't figure it out, well, don't attack me, just ask. I wasn't talking about program suicide victims. I never mentioned them. You are putting words where there are none. That laughing emoticon was after I wrote the entitled comment... ahem... Now on that note, if anyone else was offended, by all means, tell me and I may reconsider my statement. Otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you would please think about what I said for a minute and don't be so reactionary next time.
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Yeah Frod, I couldn't agree more. Where's that bridge? Anyone seen the bridge? :roflmao:
:rofl: :seg:
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Looks like PFC's hurtin for business :dose: :dose: :dose:
http://www.indystar.com/article/2009070 ... er+abusers (http://www.indystar.com/article/20090706/LOCAL/907060354/Heroin+takes+hold+again+--+with+younger+abusers)
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Hey DP, nobody's family called me to complain. If they do/did, I would apologize for what? Stating facts? I would be glad to explain to them what I mean by what I wrote. If you can't figure it out, well, don't attack me, just ask. I wasn't talking about program suicide victims. I never mentioned them. You are putting words where there are none. That laughing emoticon was after I wrote the entitled comment... ahem... Now on that note, if anyone else was offended, by all means, tell me and I may reconsider my statement. Otherwise, I'd appreciate it if you would please think about what I said for a minute and don't be so reactionary next time.
It bothered me, and that is why I said something to you. I didn't attack you at all. I actually used my manners, said please etc....
One of my friends got out and committed suicide..... so draw your own conclusion.
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Yeah, Terri started in Michigan BTW... please don't distort the facts dude. :beat:
ah, whatever, it's a state thing, indiana being one of the most INEPT in the nation at being able to protect kids. Remember, CARF is why PFC has a license in Indy, not DMHA. CARF gets lots of $$$ from ONDCP related programs/grants... connect the dots.
WHERE IS MARK WEST??????????????????
RG
I read that Helen Gowanny started Pathway in Michigan and Nissley started Pathway in Indianapolis. That's what it says in this article:
http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2007/0 ... 029674.txt (http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2007/01/14/news/top_news/cf626038b2d3e5dc8625726300029674.txt)
"SECOND GENERATION
Pathway Family Center, Detroit - founded 1993 by HELEN GOWANNY, 15 miles from the old Straight facility near Detroit
Phoenix Adolescent Institute, Marietta, Ga. - founded in 1993 by KATHLEEN CONE, five miles from the Straight facility in Marietta.
Pathway Family Center, Indianapolis - founded 1993 by former Straight parent Terri Nissley
Kids Helping Kids, A Pathway Family Center, Cincinnati, - Penny Walker"
It also states that Nissley started in Michigan in this same article so am I "distorting facts" or is this just an ambiguous article? Maybe... get off my back RG? There are more important hairs to split.
I jusy found out about Mark West and his whereabouts very recently. He does not wish to share those details and I will honor his wishes.
Hey Tony,
I think that what I have in bold up there is possibly the name of th institute...the best I can tell it looks like Helen Gowanny did a stint in Marietta ,GA
and it looks like the name was just Detroit Phoenix Adolescent Institute......Terry Nissley yes wasa straight PARENT in INDY, but got her start on Staff in Michigan....that is how I understood it to have gone down.
sincerely,
Clara Fication
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Ok everyone, I apologize for getting PISSED OFF... What was I thinking?... :roflmao: What can folks expect coming to Fornits? :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: I assumed that folks who have been fighting PFC for YEARS know that PFC started in MICHIGAN... Why then, did wdtony come on here spouting BS off about some article he snagged off of some site somewhere? Did he just fall off a turnip truck? I mean, seriously, after nearly a couple years, you'd think that someone with a site like his would know where PFC started. Oh well. I admit, I have this overwhelming sense of duty to the cause and I think I got too involved at the wrong time.
Oh, and while I'm at it, I hate it when folks do the shhhh shh don't tell anyone I told you this routine. ::) So much for teamwork.
Just let me know when Indy closes, OK? I be leavin now... :smashcomp: :smashcomp: :smashcomp:
RG
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Just for shits and giggles... Terri was a MICHIGAN STRAIGHT parent. She was not a kid on her phases, EVER!!! Please... ok, now I'm outta here...
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Terri Nissley is quoted and she is not happy in this post tribune article, My words are in red:
Clinicians will see the last clients next Thursday, according to Pathway CEO and President Terri Nisseley, who described her mission as, "We save kids."
Nisseley said this week the county still has a "huge" need for this kind of treatment, but the demand necessary to support the center financially never materialized.
"You know the saying, 'Build it and they will come?' I now know that idea will not work." It will if you are not an abusive fraudulent organization, Terri.
She said the center had been started with high hopes of those who had asked Pathway to come here. The center sought $1 million in local funding in support. They started with $200,000 from the Porter County Council and the amount from the Drug Coalition, but fundraising and referrals never covered the costs.
In addition to the recently-recession, she blamed ongoing Hoosier insularity. This makes no sense because Pathway has been in Indiana since 1993, why would "Hoosiers" (Indiana natives) be insular toward Pathway?
"I think there was political pressure for people in positions of referring kids for help not to change their referral patterns," she said. Ha! Political pressure brought on by people like us getting the word out to the right people apparently. These people in positions of referring kids did a little digging and saw Pathway for what it is, a complete fraud.
She said those positions included "anybody working in the justice system, school systems, local treatment programs." In other words, nobody would refer to PFC, that's classic.
And through the entire article, they spelled her name wrong.
Source: http://www.post-trib.com/news/porter/16 ... _Container (http://www.post-trib.com/news/porter/1650401,pcpathway0703.article#Comments_Container)
And it appears that the NWI-times article about the Porter closure has gone missing. Did they take it down?
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I was looking at pathway's facebook page and noticed they have a new poster as a way to drum up recruits for the program.
The weird thing is that there is no wording on the poster signifying that Pathway Family Center is a drug rehab or mentions anything about drugs. That's awfully strange for a self-proclaimed Drug rehabilitation center for troubled teens.
Here is the poster:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pathway-F ... 778&ref=mf (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pathway-Family-Center/82224384778#/photo.php?pid=2162717&id=82224384778&ref=mf)
It states:
Do you feel like you are losing your teen?
You are not alone... We can help...
Pathway Family Center
"Helping Families become families again"
24 hour assistance
Call for a professional and confidential consultation
(800)261-4605
www.pathwayfamilycenter.org (http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org)
As usual, the program is very secretive and ambiguous in its advertising. Where is the banter about addiction, the mention of drug rehabilitation?
Just like Straight, The SEED, KHK etc., Pathway is basically working on the desperate parent who doesn't know what is going on with their kid. Once the consultation is set up, drugs will immediately be blamed as well as the speech about how you won't see the actual drugs but they are there. The "your kid will die soon" lecture will be introduced and a frantic parent will hurry to sign the papers without reading them. And the cycle continues....or will it?
To me, this shows that putting up posters is Pathway's new advertising campaign. It's cheap and utilizes Pathway's many foot-soldiers to distribute this filth locally.
A sign of desperation from Pathway? Time will tell.
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I was looking at pathway's facebook page and noticed they have a new poster as a way to drum up recruits for the program.
The weird thing is that there is no wording on the poster signifying that Pathway Family Center is a drug rehab or mentions anything about drugs. That's awfully strange for a self-proclaimed Drug rehabilitation center for troubled teens.
Here is the poster:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pathway-F ... 778&ref=mf (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pathway-Family-Center/82224384778#/photo.php?pid=2162717&id=82224384778&ref=mf)
It states:
Do you feel like you are losing your teen?
You are not alone... We can help...
Pathway Family Center
"Helping Families become families again"
24 hour assistance
Call for a professional and confidential consultation
(800)261-4605
http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org (http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org)
As usual, the program is very secretive and ambiguous in its advertising. Where is the banter about addiction, the mention of drug rehabilitation?
Ah, you must have missed COMPANY OVERVIEW link off of the PROFILE page... you know, the one everyone usually visits when they check out new friends, etc... ;)
From the COMPANY OVERVIEW:
Detailed Info
Website:
http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org (http://www.pathwayfamilycenter.org)
Company Overview:
Pathway Family Center is a leader in Substance Abuse treatment services for adolescents, aged 10-21. Pathway has been serving adolescents and their families throughout the nation since 1993.
Pathway is a family centered facility that focuses on a 12-Step approach to care, teaching coping strategies, life skills and strengthening both individual and family relationships. Our peer staff component, family and aftercare program differentiate Pathway Services. Pathway’s dedicated staff of professionals are experts in substance abuse and behavioral problems. (read less)
Pathway Family Center is a leader in Substance Abuse treatment services for adolescents, aged 10-21. Pathway has been serving adolescents and their families throughout the nation since 1993.
Pathway is a family centered facility that focuses on a 12-Step approach to care, teaching coping strategies, life skills and strengthening both individual and family relationships. Our peer staff component, family and aftercare program differentiate Pathway Services. Pathway’s dedicated staff of... (read more)
Mission:
To change lives and create productive futures for adolescents and their families struggling with addictions and other life challenges.
Products:
Pathway provides a complete continuum of care to serve adolescents and their families. Services include:
*Drug Screening
*Substance Abuse Assessments and Treatment Recommendations
*Outpatient Services
*Intensive Outpatient Program
*Unique Long-term Day Treatment Program
All services are tailored to meet the needs of the adolescent and family.
If you are a parent concerned about the behaviors of your teen or if you know that the teen is using drugs ... understand the facts and to what level your child is involved in drugs and alcohol. Seek a professional assessment and understand the correct level of treatment your teens needs to be a productive member of society.
I hope this helps quell any ideas that PFC is not marketing their DRUG TREATMENT mantra on Facebook. I'm glad I went there to do some research. LOL...
Now, Vicki, she sure does look quite old for her age. And what's up with all them BLACK rimmed 50's glasses? :roflmao: I thought the rule was NO CLIQUES!!!
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I followed the link and then clicked on their profile. I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit reading the wall postings. And to think I used to be a little minion too... poor fuckers, I hope they snap out of it sooner rather than later.
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I find the bickering on this thread disturbing and will reply later.
Anyway, I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of....
FUCK THEM ALL AND FEED THEM BEANS!!!
Frod,
I know this is on delay, but FUCK 'EM ALL......Right on, bro! I think metallica should have named it "Fuck 'Em All" instead of "Kill 'em all"....or maybe had "fuck'em all as a song on the album of "kill 'em all".....I could go on and on , but I won't....Fuck it all!
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Good work! Close 'em down. I gratefully congratulate all who contributed to the effort, and especially RG who sacrificed so much of his energy, time & $.
...Thanks to Renee too, even though I don't know you, if RG says you were a valuable help, I believe him.