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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Che Gookin on June 20, 2009, 09:56:57 PM
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XXXXXXXX: the meeting that involved fornits...lasted exactly 9 minutes
Che: lol
Che: 9 minutes of what?
XXXXXXX: Ken said that the server that well proxied is using is based in the UK...
Che: LOL
Che: yeah torpark and all
Che: is my guess
XXXXXXX: that he contacted his attorney...who told him to contact the DA
XXXXXXXXXX: the DA told him to contact the Feds
XXXXXXXXX: who told him to contact the licensing people in MO..
XXXXXXXXX: He said he is being given the run around...
Che: meaning he probably isn't going to do a whole lot about it.
XXXXXXXXX: He showed them all HIS post...claiming how forthright he is..you know giving his real name and all
Che: of course.
Che: what is the mood of the staff in general?
XXXXXXXX: and he told them that he is used to being attacked...but when the kids private info is out there he said and I quote "I'm coming after you."
Che: riiggght.
XXXXXXXXXXX: He assured all of the staff that there is no mole in calo's midst..this well proxied person is not someone who has worked at calo
Che: he's got that right.
XXXXXXXXXXX: He now feels that this well proxied person is the one who wrote and sent the letter to the parents
Che: fun fun
XXXXXXXXX: He only showed the initial post of the kid's names and tts
Che: now what's he gonna do about it?
Che: cry more?
XXXXXXX: He is coming after fornits
Che: well good luck with that I guess.
XXXXXXXX: He told them how this person/people on fornits in general hate him and hate residential treatment in general
Che: Look up Robert Lifton's definitions of a cult.
Che: Amazing how many of them Ken manages to fit.
Che: anyway I'll be right back.
XXXXXXXXX: yep
I have to go to work now, but I'll post more later when I get a chance. Just wanted to update everyone here about the big "meeting" at CALO.
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Ken Huey tortures American citizens at the Provo academy GULAG and CALO GULAG
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Che, be careful not to tip your hand as to where you get your info, or what info you have access to. That is to say, don't give warnings about how Huey should be careful what sites he posts his material on.
Also, how does Ken Huey know that well proxied posts from the UK? Did forntis give him that info? thanks
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Ken has access to his own server records. He wouldn't have gotten proxy ip data from fornits without one hell of a legal fight no matter how much psy is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaawing about the names being posted.
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Ken has access to his own server records. He wouldn't have gotten proxy ip data from fornits without one hell of a legal fight no matter how much psy is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaawing about the names being posted.
Very easy, Sherlocks. Well-proxied tipped his own hand by accessing the CALO server AND/OR by writing to the people at CALO. It is easy then to identify the IP address and its country of origin, and even the city.
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Ken has access to his own server records. He wouldn't have gotten proxy ip data from fornits without one hell of a legal fight no matter how much psy is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaawing about the names being posted.
Very easy, Sherlocks. Well-proxied tipped his own hand by accessing the CALO server AND/OR by writing to the people at CALO. It is easy then to identify the IP address and its country of origin, and even the city.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Are you SURE it wasn't from the Philippines?
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Lol... Let Ken's pet IT guy fumble around for a bit. This is hilarious.
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XXXXXXXXXX: the DA told him to contact the Feds
XXXXXXXXX: who told him to contact the licensing people in MO..
This is Pig Latin for "fuck you".
He assured all of the staff that there is no mole in calo's midst..
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger:
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EPIC LOLz That's the most ridiculous threat I've ever heard!
Seriously what could this guy do? Subpoena "anonymous" ????...
This case will never be taken seriously and he knows it!
But I have to say it will be funny to hear how crazy he drives himself trying...
All I can hope is he spends a ton of money on the best lawyer he can find so when he loses he'll go bankrupt and CALO will be shut down for "economic reasons".
:beat:
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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Also, how does Ken Huey know that well proxied posts from the UK? Did forntis give him that info? thanks
No, but if "well proxied" did access CALO's servers and Ken checked the logs, he would have that information. He hasn't even asked us, which I suspect means that either he is gearing up for legal action, or he already knows and is gearing up to act on that.
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There's one thing people seem to be missing out on. Well Proxied doesn't seem like the kind of idiot who wouldn't use a proxy to cruise CALO's little server. My wildest guess is he was just as proxied up for cruising KEN KEN's sekrit pit o' shame that he was for posting the info on fornits.
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More bogus threats and lame litigation.....god, i love this stupid board.... :rofl:
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There's one thing people seem to be missing out on. Well Proxied doesn't seem like the kind of idiot who wouldn't use a proxy to cruise CALO's little server. My wildest guess is he was just as proxied up for cruising KEN KEN's sekrit pit o' shame that he was for posting the info on fornits.
Perhaps, or maybe since Tor is incredibly slow for downloading larger files such as PDFs, he just skipped the proxy on that step. Time will tell.
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Nah.. the person has told me all about using a proxy to everything..
repeatedly...
to the point I want to stuff a sock down their throat.
They ought to know after midnight in China I'm only fit for dead baby jokes.
:goes back to getting hammered:
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btw.. Well Proxied.. Stop sending meemails. I told you I don't want anything to do with your shennangians, even if I do have to concede they've been damn effective in undermining Ken "red flag touches" huey in front of his own staff.
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Nah.. the person has told me all about using a proxy to everything..
repeatedly...
You probably shouldn't say that unless you want your own subpoena (not that it would matter in china). If you have had contact with the person, that makes you a witness.
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btw.. Well Proxied.. Stop sending meemails. I told you I don't want anything to do with your shennangians, even if I do have to concede they've been damn effective in undermining Ken "red flag touches" huey in front of his own staff.
Not to mention if he is sending you emails through an email client he is likely not forwarding it through tor (unless he is using webmail). In that case, you have evidence of his real IP. Probably best if you don't say such things in public.
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Hell I'll share the email client Well proxied used so they know who to subpoena:
http://www.theanonymousemail.com/ (http://www.theanonymousemail.com/)
Believe me they can try to bug me all they want, but they won't get much. The messages of importance are all triple cipher key encoded via telepathic brain waves.
It is my suspicion that Ken "Jerks off a Mule during his lunch break for epic lulz" Huey will more than likely decide to hassle Fornits as a face saving gesture.
I think we both know how well that will work.
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You probably shouldn't say that unless you want your own subpoena (not that it would matter in china). If you have had contact with the person, that makes you a witness.
Oh very well.. I didn't actually have contact with Well Proxied, you caught me.
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I'm also the man on the grassy knoll.
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Hell I'll share the email client Well proxied used so they know who to subpoena:
http://www.theanonymousemail.com/ (http://www.theanonymousemail.com/)
Interesting. How did you know that? Did he tell you?
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Interesting. How did you know that? Did he tell you?
Sherlock Holmes, yes?
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Hell I'll share the email client Well proxied used so they know who to subpoena:
http://www.theanonymousemail.com/ (http://www.theanonymousemail.com/)
Interesting. How did you know that? Did he tell you?
:roflmao: Let's put it this way: the chances of that actually being the emailer used are pretty much nil, based on the simple fact that it was intentionally posted!
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Or maybe Well Proxied isn't just one person, or he's one person with a lot of help, or he's no people at all. Maybe he's Ken Huey's other personality. Maybe he's Psy who is doing an excellent job of covering his tracks through "YOU BAD MAN YOU". Maybe he's Che, which would make a lot of sense actually.
Sheesh, people. If Ken actually could do something the list of kids and "treatment" summaries would have been taken down weeks ago. I'm pretty sure he knows the contact info of THIS server. :lol:
But when your own lawyer is telling you to go talk to the DA (translation: you have no case, fuck off)? All that's left are the rantings of a cultist losing followers quick.
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I'll be honest here..
Well Proxied isn't me.
I can't say I've ever met the person.
I don't plan on ever meeting the person.
Having said this I can honestly say that there is no way for sure that I can conclusively say that I've gotten any sort of email from Well Proxied given the number of trolls here in Cyberia.
I do remember one distinctive email claiming that it is possible Ken Huey himself leaked the treatment plans, as well proxied, to try to get fornits shut down due to the threads that were outting CALO.
I'd be happy to provide that one free of charge.
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Having said this I can honestly say that there is no way for sure that I can conclusively say that I've gotten any sort of email from Well Proxied given the number of trolls here in Cyberia.
That's true, and "Well Proxied" may very well be more than one person... A sort of fornits standalone complex.
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/a/nonymous...
we are legion..
we nevar 4get..
a bit to hammered to remember the rest of it.
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I do remember one distinctive email claiming that it is possible Ken Huey himself leaked the treatment plans, as well proxied, to try to get fornits shut down due to the threads that were outting CALO.
I'm pretty sure it's not that. I'm almost 100% positive. It could, however, be a competitor trying to take out CALO and fornits in one fell swoop. I have a working theory but it's pretty far out...
Remember the name of the guy who outed all those WWASP staffers? Well. That was "well proxied", but it wasn't this "well proxied" (there are at least two). How do I know? I just do. And not with any IP information.
Let's figure for a moment it's WWASP that wants to take out fornits, or at the very least all posts by "well proxied". They then post some of CALO's information they gain access to, hoping that it starts legal action against fornits, well proxied, etc... and CALO's reputation of protecting kid's privacy along the way. They then take out a competitor, a critic, and a critical website... all without firing a shot. Of course that's silly talk.
:birthday:
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Hmm.. if that is the case, and it is possible, I'll be a bit more careful in the future. I certainly don't want to aid and abet any program of any sort.
However, I'll repeat my stance for those who have missed it due to some of my other trolling (And yes I was trolling in this thread. I've gotten no emails from Well Proxied).
1) I'm not happy with the posting of the names or treatment plans.
2) It bothers me that this is what it takes to stir up a commotion to make some headway against CALO.
3) I won't argue with the results though as more than a few persons of interest have agreed to talk because they read the thread.
4) It really does bother me that this is what it takes to wake people the hell up.
5) I think people need to keep in mind that what happens on fornits is a very small part of what is happening with CALO. The details regarding this won't be discussed on fornits until its appropriate.
The business here on Fornits serves a purpose in the sense that it undercuts Ken "I like to jack off at a medium pace" Huey's credibility in the area of being able to control his own program. I can absolutely assure you all that it has made him look weak. He's already fired 5 staff members this month. A few of them were related to some of what is going on in various ways.
Ken is struggling to control the situation and so far he's failing horridly. He's threatening, posing as a lawyer from what I'm gathering, and I also understand he's using his influence to keep parents from posting and browsing on fornits.
A contact in the mess seemed to indicate to me that Ken "I Take it Like A Man in the Showers at Prison" Huey more or less directed one of the parents posting on fornits not to do so.
I'll try to get the more or less exact wording of the request/demand.
Now let me be clear here when I say that I wish that the names had not been posted as I had some of my own ideas that I think could have worked just as well. However, I wasn't involved in the decision making process to post names or torture/treatment plans on fornits. Had I been asked I would have said not to do it, but instead to flood the forums with a crap load of redacted documents from CALO in pdf files.
However, the results are promising, but god damn.. what a price to be paid in the long run.
Still, I'd rather a kid be free and angry at the person who posted them than in CALo and being tormented.
PROTIP: The postings alone won't drive a stake through the heart of KKKALO. We really do need more survivor and staff involvement. We have a decent amount now, but more is always helpful.
use the email in my sig to request information on how to help stop the Abuse at CALO.
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btw.. Well Proxied.. Stop sending meemails. I told you I don't want anything to do with your shennangians, even if I do have to concede they've been damn effective in undermining Ken "red flag touches" huey in front of his own staff.
Not to mention if he is sending you emails through an email client he is likely not forwarding it through tor (unless he is using webmail). In that case, you have evidence of his real IP. Probably best if you don't say such things in public.
Guess what: it is easy to trace the person's IP address through web mail, too...Nobody is truly anonymous these days!
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Hey Che, who are the five that were fired, and does that mean the list of staff posted is not accurate?
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Hey Che, who are the five that were fired, and does that mean the list of staff posted is not accurate?
^^The Who
Tell us about your son, Who.
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xxxxxxx: Here are the names of the staff that are on that list who longer work for calo
xxxxxxx: Bruce Burnett
xxxxxxx: Anna Claridge
xxxxxxx: Cory McLindsay
xxxxxxx: Tim Norris
xxxxxxx: Jennifer Panlilio
xxxxxxx: In addition...Willie Box and Elizabeth Martin have been let go...but they were not on the list.
xxxxxxx: and Holly Morris I was just reminded.
Che: so its 8 fired in the last month?
xxxxxxx: Cory was not fired..he quit. I don't know about Holly. Anna quit as well...the rest were fired
xxxxxxx: or "let go"
xxxxxxx: as they were told
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I hope they file a lawsuit for illegal termination against Ken Huey.