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Title: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2009, 03:43:28 AM
So, some really un-godly, mind blowingly important things have been taken from me. And it is hard to have the energy to even try. Nothing will ever be good for me, realisticly. Anyone in this position? How do you find the energy and will to try?
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Che Gookin on June 14, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
I've been in this position and honestly I don't know how I managed. I just kept going to work/school, getting up in the morning, and going about my every day routine until I figured it out.

Wasn't easy.. it took time.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2009, 05:20:33 PM
Personally I despise AA after voluntarily giving it a try, but one of their hackneyed cliches did leave with me:  "Fake it until you make it".  Not encouraging you to Pollyanna yourself or anything...I think everyone one this forum knows what you're experiencing, and no one has come up with a surefire method to get through the Black Doldrums.  Things can be absolute shit and that's a natural fact, and it's irritating to have a smiley-face telling you to look on the sunny side or some such B.S. There is no sunny side when you're in the pit.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Che Gookin on June 14, 2009, 10:15:37 PM
Yes, AA doesn't do much for a man or woman. The falseness of it frankly sells itself to me as creepy. My specific hole wasn't climbed out of by me being fake. I managed to keep going with my life, but I certainly wasn't enjoying it either.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2009, 11:20:09 PM
Hey, lets not turn this into an AA thread :) :rasta:
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 14, 2009, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Personally I despise AA after voluntarily giving it a try, but one of their hackneyed cliches did leave with me:  "Fake it until you make it".  Not encouraging you to Pollyanna yourself or anything...I think everyone one this forum knows what you're experiencing, and no one has come up with a surefire method to get through the Black Doldrums.  Things can be absolute shit and that's a natural fact, and it's irritating to have a smiley-face telling you to look on the sunny side or some such B.S. There is no sunny side when you're in the pit.

Faking it is what I am trying to do , but failing pretty miserably. :(
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 15, 2009, 02:09:08 AM
This may sound like a stupid question, but what are you telling yourself?
Are the majority of your thoughts  along the lines of "things will never get any better, I'm always going to feel this bad, nothing good ever happens.."?
Not to oversimplify, but our belief creates our reality. It's easier for some of us to support and encourage others, yet so difficult to support and encourage ourselves. I have had some horrible losses in my life, one that rocked me so hard I didn't know if I would make it, but I'm still here and  life is good. I give myself credit for what I have lived through and when things get rough, I try to remember to treat myself with love and compassion.
Silly to some maybe, but it has worked for me.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 17, 2009, 02:30:10 AM
Quote from: "another guest"
This may sound like a stupid question, but what are you telling yourself?
Are the majority of your thoughts  along the lines of "things will never get any better, I'm always going to feel this bad, nothing good ever happens.."?
Not to oversimplify, but our belief creates our reality. It's easier for some of us to support and encourage others, yet so difficult to support and encourage ourselves. I have had some horrible losses in my life, one that rocked me so hard I didn't know if I would make it, but I'm still here and  life is good. I give myself credit for what I have lived through and when things get rough, I try to remember to treat myself with love and compassion.
Silly to some maybe, but it has worked for me.


Yes i do tell myself that. But it seems very reasonable. Very hopeless
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Antigen on June 17, 2009, 03:36:48 AM
Yeah, seems so right now. But it's not. Reasonable is that life is up and down no matter who you are or what has happened.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: seamus on June 17, 2009, 11:26:42 AM
I do just what my illiterate Irish father told me to.I put one foot in front of the other,and try to figure out a solution to my shit.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2009, 12:56:25 AM
I'm curious. Why come here for advice? Would you get advice on health food from McDonalds? Same difference.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on June 18, 2009, 02:41:19 AM
Who else would understand? Or even beleive?
I
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2009, 01:23:19 AM
bumped for the insanely stop you in your tracks depression
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Inculcated on July 12, 2009, 01:43:45 AM
Bumper^ Are you feeling this way?
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2009, 02:42:05 AM
Quote from: "Inculcated"
Bumper^ Are you feeling this way?

yep.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: Anonymous on July 12, 2009, 03:32:46 AM
I don’t know the circumstances that have caused you to feel this way. What little I can offer you isn’t very poignant but it’s heartfelt.  
 
Some small consolation to me in my own experiences of hurt to the point of overwhelm, is to consider it in my own vague cosmology as part of some refinement process. The people I’ve known who have inspired me with their strengths and compassion all have in common that they’ve through some very trying times. They’ve come by their depth of character by having emerged from the depths life sometimes takes us to.

Without any intent to belittle what you are experiencing, I’ll ask you to consider how awed you might be by your own strength when you’ve come through this.
Title: Re: Difficulties of not giving up
Post by: FemanonFatal2.0 on July 12, 2009, 06:55:44 AM
ahhhhh... Mastering the art of mustering the strength to just go on, one of lifes many but essential lessons. Should I first say I empathize with your plight, irreversable loss is just one of those things that has the power to knock you on your ass regardless of your level of personal strength. I cant imagine what it would feel like to lose something as imporant as a loved one, or home or physical function, but I can understand how hard living with that can be. As the poster before me mentioned, you may be surprised how much strength you gain from this unfortunate experience, however I dont think that means that you arent allowed to seek comfort and support for these hard times. You may find that just expressing yourself, and even allowing yourself to feel and grasp the gravity of your pain can help you to cycle through the stages of greif a little quicker. No one can expect you to simply get over the things that are hurting you but learning how to process it and cope is key. Some of us have some hands on experience, so if you feel comfortable doing so feel free to contact someone privately and I'm sure you will be able to find a shoulder to lean on in your time of need. I'm here, and I vouche for a few others on this site who are genuine, so if you need a friend dont hesitate to ask. In the meantime just try to think happy thoughts, give yourself time to escape to a peaceful quite place in your mind, like a "happy place" and just take it easy. Chin up, this too shall pass.

All my love and best wishes
Title: Jonestown Reunion
Post by: Froderik on July 12, 2009, 10:03:36 AM
I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
Title: Re: Jonestown Reunion
Post by: Inculcated on July 12, 2009, 10:47:47 AM
Quote from: "Froderik"
I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
Is something happening to you? I’ve seen you use this phrase before. What do you mean, Froderik? Are you feeling similarly to the OP or bumper?
Title: Re: Jonestown Reunion
Post by: Froderik on July 12, 2009, 11:05:19 AM
Quote from: "Inculcated"
Quote from: "Froderik"
I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
Is something happening to you? I’ve seen you use this phrase before. What do you mean, Froderik? Are you feeling similarly to the OP or bumper?
No, not to them at all. Yes, something quite disturbing is happening to me: It's called society.  :timeout:
Title: Re: Jonestown Reunion
Post by: Inculcated on July 12, 2009, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: "Froderik"
Quote from: "Inculcated"
Quote from: "Froderik"
I'm tired of being tormented to hell, that's what I'm tired of.
Is something happening to you? I’ve seen you use this phrase before. What do you mean, Froderik? Are you feeling similarly to the OP or bumper?
No, not to them at all. Yes, something quite disturbing is happening to me: It's called society.  :timeout:
Well then your options are to "Be the change you wish to see in the world" or become Insular and reclusive.
Please don't retreat to a Kazinski shack.
Title: Re: Jonestown Reunion
Post by: Froderik on February 05, 2012, 05:23:24 AM
Quote from: "Inculcated"
Well then your options are to "Be the change you wish to see in the world" or become Insular and reclusive.
Easier said than done, but this is pretty good advice, considering.

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Please don't retreat to a Kazinski shack.
As in Ted? LOL...I won't do that, but I may eventually take up residence at the Tire Ranch.™