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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Elan School => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 11, 2003, 04:26:00 PM
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still think you're a bit of dick.. You want my address, email me!!! Believe me, I'll give it to you!!!.. Do yourself a favor, bring some friends, if you had the integrity to come.
Paul St. John
So whats the email address Paul? I want to take you up on that offer.
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it seems my default mail client isnt connected, post your email address so I can email you
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Shit, man...
After that, am I gonna have to pick you and your friends up and drive them to my house to kick my ass? LOL!!
Look, I was actually drunk off my ass when I wrote that response and any other responses or posts that I may have written that night.. don't drink much, and I really gotta stop posting when I do drink, cause it gets me in trouble everywhere..lol
Well, all in all, I am thinking this is quite ridiculous, and I know that you' re not gonna come here...
'Tis a long drive...
But here it is for you, Natzi- boy( had to throw that in)...
LongHaulPaul@aol.com
Paul St. John
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Well Paul see what alcohol does to one, beer muscles? You're gonna have to learn sometime in life Paul.Today is your lucky day, I am feeling generous and want to give you a free lesson in life.So put on the kettle Paul, I'm on my way.
By the way its "Nazi" not "Natzi".
Long haul Paul here I come!!!!!!
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LMAO!!
Don't worry Nazi.. :lol:
I'm all good with the trouble, as far as you are concerned anyway.. You ll be getting an email from me before the end of the night. If you actually show up, I will shake your hand before we begin. I read your little story about the dudes you took out.. Now, if that was true, this could turn out to be quite interesting..lol
Paul
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On 2003-08-13 02:00:00, Anonymous wrote:
You misjudge me.. No beer muscles bro.. Just lack of self-control.
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the only dudes he took out were the ones who paid him to suk their cocks. fukn nazi fudge packin faggot.
SyN
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Dont worry Michael, I wont leave you out.I got a very special gift for you son.
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You're too funny, Nazi
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i think he just needs a hug. :razz:
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When were you at Elan?
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Nazi- Boy.. is that you?
Who the hell ever said I went to Elan?
:grin:
Paul
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Just curious Paul if you had experineced any foul behavior by staff members at Daytop?
It was Daytop you went too correct?
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Yes.. There was foul behavior, but not as bad and blatant as in many stories I have heard here.
Daytop, and Elan, it seems to me are more or less completely identical.
They had all the same things as Elan, but it is because of the time, in which I went, that I did not experience a lot of the bullshit.
I was there around 94. At this point, it appears that bothe Elan, and Daytop, had straightenned up their act a bit.
Many things were ommitted from their " treatment".
Times are changing. These places aren't some hidden place in Thailand or something. They probably had to evolve to survive.
Paul St. John
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Be honest with you Paul, I kind of like you,I enjoy reading your 2 cents worth you put into this site.I really dont feel its necassary for me to belittle you.As you can see I am very busy with the following topics:
1)Jeff Gottlieb
2)Marty kruglik
3)Claire Woodman
4)Marc Rosenberg
5)The corpse of Joe Ricci
6)Linda Roy
7)For Peter Moore
:cool:Hidden Elan School secrets
9)Mr Alboro " Teacher at Elan"
and 10) Fred Konopasek "Gay Mother Fucker"
As you can see I have my hands quit full right now.I actually had to terminate my involvement with the Michael Lewandowski forum due to an overload and demanding attention to the other forums.
Its on the consideration of halting the Peter Moore forum for now, but it is kinda hard when the view numbers are up, hopefully no one will be disappointed, I know Peter wont....
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Here you go Paul, now I'm no longer anonymous
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http://wlscott1.tripod.com/noisepolluti ... 2col1.html (http://wlscott1.tripod.com/noisepollution/index.html?row2col1=indexrow2col1.html)
This is very funny and you might even find it funny.
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On 2003-08-19 18:16:00, nazi wrote:
"http://wlscott1.tripod.com/noisepollution/index.html?row2col1=indexrow2col1.html
This is very funny and you might even find it funny."
http://wlscott1.tripod.com/noisepolluti ... 2col1.html (http://wlscott1.tripod.com/noisepollution/index.html?row2col1=indexrow2col1.html)
This should be the correct link, the other one wasnt going to the correct page for some reason.Look for the ned schmidt call to the post office.
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For some reason this link i posted is not directly taking you too waht i wanted you to hear.There is guy Ned Schnditt who calls up the post office and complains about a malcom x stamp.I cant find it on the site at all.But the link i posted is saved in my favorites section and brings me right to it.I copy and pasted it here and it brings you too a different page and I cant locate the ned scnditt prank call thing anywhere.maybe you willl have some luck.
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Ok Paul, follow that link then go to navigation part, click on noise pollution part 2 then scroll down and look for malcolm x, click it and it should start playing for you.
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Thought I would add to your forum to make it seem more popular then Peters.You have alot of catching up to do.
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Like the screen name?????
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Yessir.. I do.
With name like that, you and
I must be business partners.. Go destroy
that kid :exclaim:
:skull: Mr. Martin Kruglic :skull:
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Hell Yes!! :wink:
Paul St. JOhn
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Just wanted to add to the forum in an attempt to make it one step closer to being popular like Pete's thread.
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I copied this from Kens message board and was wondering if you could find the time to comment on it like you do with other people's posts.I'm sure you could make great humouros staements about it, well anyway good luck and I am looking forward to reading your input on this.
edstaffin Jul-09-03, 07:25 AM (Central Standard Time)
"Recent Elan visit after 25 years"
Hi all,
Well it was very interesting. My wife and I were in Maine to pick up a new sailboat and so I thought it might be interesting to stop by Elan. First a little background.
I graduated from there in April of 1978. My first day there was Sept. 1st, 1976. I was the very first graduate of Pinehenge high school. After graduating from Elan, I was staff for about a year and a half. After that I went to college and got a degree in computer science and have since had a wonderful professional life as a software developer. I live with my wife, Irene, in the Florida Keys and life is very good.
Anyhow, in making plans to visit I had several phone conversations with Jeff Gottlieb. It was good to talk with him, but it was strange. I wanted to come up on a Friday and perhaps spend a day or two there. It would have been convenient for my schedule to be able to visit with the kids on a Saturday or Sunday. However, I was told that this would not be possible. I didn't think much of it then, but it plays into the changes there, as you will see later.
As we drove up from Boston, I was full of anticipation. I was looking forward to seeing Jeff again after so many years.
Anyhow, to say the place has changed would be a monumental understatement. It seems like a much, much, much less difficult program than when I was there.
First of all, it is no longer run by prior graduates. This is unbelievable to me. One of the basic tenents that was important to me when I was there was knowing that anyone ... anyone above me ... up to and including Joe himself, had been through the program. Now, apparently, they have professional "organizers" who run the place.
In my opinion, the place has gone soft. Maybe today's kids don't need the same kind of "tough love" that we got back in my day. I don't know. But it sure is different. Heck, they've even gone "Politically Correct." They don't call haircuts, haircuts anymore, but rather, "verbal reprimands." We used the term verbal reprimand to explain what a haircut was. No more ring, no shingle/chief expeditor blasts, no signs, no pressure POs, no tight houses. Amazing!!!
Unfortunately, I was only able to visit for about an hour or two at the facility. It seemed very similar to what I remember, but much more muted. The place is very highly structured now. Not as chaotic as when I was there. The reason I couldn't visit on the weekend is because it might disrupt the "flow." Oh well.
I have no comment on how well the "new" program works. For all I know it could be 10 times more effective now than when I was there. I just know it is very different.
I am amazed, quite frankly, at the amount of bile and venom that seems to come out of people who were there in recent years. Seems to me they have nothing to complain about.
Overall, it was a kinda disappointing visit. There was utterly no warmth coming from Jeff. We had a pleasant dinner, but it was very distant. I would have liked to have seen Marty and I would have thought that he would have liked to have
seen me, but I guess not.
"well the reason why you didnt see Marty is because he was most likely out raping a 7 year old boy"
All I know is that as a youngster, Elan saved my life. The fact that I am here writing this as a happily married, almost retired, successful businessman is in no small part due to the guidance I received at Elan.
I went back there to try and give back some of what I got and out of curiosity. My curiosity was satisfied, my hope to give back was not.
Life goes on. Elan goes on.
Just thought whomever reads this might find it interesting.
Later ... Ed
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