Fornits
Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Hyde Schools => Topic started by: Ursus on March 07, 2009, 05:48:03 PM
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Apparently, Joe Gauld started a series of pontifications bearing this title, starting last August. Here are at least some of them (not all appear to be available), for your edification and critique:
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Founder's Findings #1: 1st Parental Precedent (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=ET242W%2F2XQs%3D)
8/26/2008
At birth, nature presents us with a fully functioning human being. However, that baby is totally dependent upon us, even for its survival. So after this child’s childhood and adolescence period, nature then expects us as parents to present it to the world as a fully functioning adult!
This means we have a lot of work to do as parents in a limited space of time, much of which our growing child will not understand, and sometimes not even agree with as necessary. So our basic relationship to our child must always be that of mentor to student, sometimes requiring us to even act like a dictator.
Thus, we must shun a friendship with our child; friendships are 50-50, which will undermine our critical mentorship of our child. Children will eventually not only understand this difference, but come to deeply trust us, because they know nothing will ever compromise our commitment to their future, not even our desire for their love.
- Joseph Gauld
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So our basic relationship to our child must always be that of mentor to student, sometimes requiring us to even act like a dictator.
I'm so surprised to read this. He always struck me as such a kind, reasonable old man at the FLCs.
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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sometimes requiring us to even act like a dictator
Or sometimes requires us to rationalize our personal predilections to be a dick. At 80 some odd years I admire Joey's stamina as expressed in his ability to tolerate the sounds of his own banality. I would have shut up a long time ago.
NHB
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Thus, we must shun a friendship with our child; friendships are 50-50, which will undermine our critical mentorship of our child. Children will eventually not only understand this difference, but come to deeply trust us, because they know nothing will ever compromise our commitment to their future, not even our desire for their love.
Outside of the fact that friendships are rarely "50-50," and that mentorship and friendship do not by definition nor by any other means necessarily preclude each other, I want to know where is it preordained that a kid should "come to deeply trust" someone who is that hell-bent on maintaining control in the relationship?
When it comes to truth and reality, Joe Gauld and Hyde School have compromised plenty a kid, not to mention totally fucked them over. "Commitment to their future" would be a bald-faced flaming LIE in those cases.
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On to the second one. I can see that Joe's mathematical skills are being put to good use here. I hate to be the one to break the news, but the nuances of real life do not always fit so neatly into such rigid partitions of time. Moreover, and this is strictly my opinion, there really isn't anything pathological or even abnormal about that.
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Founder's Findings #2: 2nd Parental Precedent (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=2Lq%2F13X%2FEho%3D)
9/2/2008
Of all living species, we humans have by far the longest preparation for life -- 19 years! In reality, children today often take an even longer period, with many returning home after college. Clearly, this is not what nature had in mind. The child who begins to take responsibility for his/her life at, say, age 25, will essentially always be six years behind the one who begins that responsibility at age 19.
Since the parent begins with 100% responsibility at birth, the challenge is to turn over 51% of that responsibility to the child over a 19 year period. Thus, the parent needs to become very tolerant of the child's struggles and mistakes. Adolescence is the practice field of life; isn't it far safer and more productive to make your mistakes on the practice field than in the game of life?
This means we parents need to focus more on growth than achievement, with a better appreciation of the value of struggles and mistakes.
- Joseph Gauld
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This is just too inane: anthropomorphizing nature, hard stop for growing up a 19, if you don't grow up until your 25 you are always six years behind. Nurse time to change Joey's Depends. He has pooped them again. What age does senility start Joey? If you start drooling at 75 are you ahead of your peers?
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What would Joe have said about my uncle? He never left home.
When it came time, he got married, and his wife moved in. Then they had children, and there were three generations under one roof.
When my grandparents got older, he took care of them. My grandmother became more and more senile in the last ten years of her life, the last five bedridden and having to be spoonfed. It wasn't a big deal, he just did it.
At what point would Joe say my uncle started "taking responsibility for his life"?
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At this point, based on infantile drivel that is emanating from His Eminence, Joseph Gauld ,I think it safe to say the Founder has foundered.
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God forbid the snotty little buggers should ever manipulate ya!!
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Founder's Findings #3: Kids Read (Your Heart) (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=C1eXGDsjru0%3D)
9/9/2008
Many parents unwittingly talk to their child the same way they talk to adults. Since the child lacks the life experience to truly comprehend, they soon learn to read the parent’s heart, which allows them to understand what the parent really means at a level that even the parent may not intellectually understand. How many times have I heard a parent strongly express some intention, to which the kid simply remarks, "He doesn't mean it."
The solution is simple -- the parent must become adept at reading his/her own heart, and then directly express in words those feelings or emotions. If you don't like or don't want to say those words, then work on changing your feelings, emotions or attitudes so you can say the words you would like to say.
Clearly, this will be a very difficult task that will transform your parenting. But it will destroy your child's ability to manipulate you.
- Joseph Gauld
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Since the child lacks the life experience to truly comprehend, they soon learn to read the parent’s heart
What? Am I missing something or is there a huge jump between "lacks life experience to truly comprehend" and "soon learn to read the parent's heart." There was a big deus ex machina wheeled in in the first act that transformed the uncomprehending child to a seer of the truths and verities of the human heart. Doesn't anyone in Bath have the balls to shut him up or are they all just too brainwashed to see how utterly ridiculous these ramblings are?
EAJP Jr
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The solution is simple -- the parent must become adept at reading his/her own heart, and then directly express in words those feelings or emotions. If you don't like or don't want to say those words, then work on changing your feelings, emotions or attitudes so you can say the words you would like to say.
Translation:
If you DON'T LIKE what you are about to say, brainwash yourself into believing that you
really mean ... what you'd LIKE yourself to say.
SIMPLE! "Truth" is what you make it.[/list]
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Founder's Findings #4: Hell in a Handbasket? (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=F2FpQBq3qtc%3D)
9/16/2008
As we experience what seems to be an increasing level of corruption in our society, some of us may wonder if our society is just going through a difficult phase, or more seriously experiencing a deeply troubling trend, as a long term study of the deeper motivations of college freshmen suggests.
In 1966, the study found that the top concern of 80% of college freshmen was "developing a meaningful philosophy of life." In sixth place, less than 45% listed "being very well off financially" as their top priority. However in 1996 these two values had changed places, with 74% choosing the latter as their top priority; in sixth place, only 42% chose the 1966 top concern. Studies since then indicate this downward trend in purpose in life is continuing.
One thing seems for sure, these future leaders will continue the reality that in America, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
- Joseph Gauld
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One thing seems for sure, these future leaders will continue the reality that in America, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Well, one other thing also seems sure ... as long as parents continue sending their kids to Hyde School, the Gaulds will get richer, and the American public will get poorer. Financially, as well as spiritually.
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I love all these scholarly references. Who financed the "long term study?" Readers' Digestion?
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I love all these scholarly references. Who financed the "long term study?" Readers' Digestion?
The world has been going to hell in a hand basket for a long long time. Watch out for the barbarians!
According to Gibbon, the Roman Empire succumbed to barbarian invasions in large part due to the gradual loss of civic virtue among its citizens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Histor ... man_Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_the_Decline_and_Fall_of_the_Roman_Empire)
Be seeing you.
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At least Gibbon was a true scholar, cited all sources and preferred the originals, even posed critique and analysis of his "footnotes"
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At least Gibbon was a true scholar, cited all sources and preferred the originals, even posed critique and analysis of his "footnotes"
True. My point is that people have been pointing at societal moral decline for hundreds of years. Social critics in the jazz age decried the loss of public virtue 20 - 40 years before the zenith of American Empire. It wasn't porn, pot or promiscuity that got us, ( I am assuming that you, Number 7, are a US citizen or live in an allied nation) to this nasty nadir, it was idiots like Rumsfeld and McNamara that squandered the blood and treasure of Our Great Nation. "Some blame the management, some the employees": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAPDQdHqCY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAPDQdHqCY) "Philosophy is useless theology is worse." Who would have thought a Scot could be so pithy my blue eyed son?
Be seeing you
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At least Gibbon was a true scholar, cited all sources and preferred the originals, even posed critique and analysis of his "footnotes"
True. My point is that people have been pointing at societal moral decline for hundreds of years. Social critics in the jazz age decried the loss of public virtue 20 - 40 years before the zenith of American Empire. It wasn't porn, pot or promiscuity that got us, ( I am assuming that you, Number 7, are a US citizen or live in an allied nation) to this nasty nadir, it was idiots like Rumsfeld and McNamara that squandered the blood and treasure of Our Great Nation. "Some blame the management, some the employees": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAPDQdHqCY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAPDQdHqCY) "Philosophy is useless theology is worse." Who would have thought a Scot could be so pithy my blue eyed son?
Be seeing you
Aye.. My response was not to the substance, but a comparison of the seekers. Gibbon with his decades-long quest researching ancient documents and scrupulous scholarship, vs. Gauld with his narcissistic bombastic posturing, Reader's Digest, pop psychology, and LGAT experiences. Maybe that's an exaggeration of the former, but not of the latter.
As to substance? Maybe a tension is necessary between the moral condemners and the vacuous optimists, for them to feed off one another so persistently through the ages. An unfortunate, and sometimes fatal, tragedy for those caught in the mesh of one or the other.
Some sights are better left unseen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIil8k5QnFU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIil8k5QnFU)
And I know I will be loosened
from the bonds that hold me fast
and the chains all around me
will fall away at last[/list]
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Lols. For some reason, I don't think Joe is exactly the best person to be lecturing others about the "crass new value of personal gain."
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Founder's Findings #5: Pay Students for Academic Achievement??? (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=X1NQ1SRGoYo%3D)
9/23/2008
If anyone still thinks that our educational system may not be unsound or even corrupt, they should take note of practices in both New York City and Washington, DC in which they are now paying students money on a monthly basis for academic achievement!
So students are not only now commodities to be "bought and paid for," but this practice replaces the character quality of curiosity with the crass new value of personal gain. To give you some idea of the tragic loss, while the system woodenly seeks to motivate students with such lesser human motivations, home school students obviously continue to instead utilize the more potent power of curiosity. A University of Maryland study of 24,000 home schooled students found that by ninth-grade, they were academically four grades ahead of their public school counterparts!
Don't mess with Mother Nature.
- Joseph Gauld
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Joe is no scholar. So yeah there is the part where I disagree with his premise and then there is a lack of scholarship. I am no scholar myself, but have dabbled in some management theory. My bent is to look at systemic causes rather then blame the individuals working in that system.
Joe is doing the Professor Hill. Trouble! Right here in River City, rather then a true Jeremiad. Howl was not selling anything.
BSY
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Lawrence Rudner's (University of Maryland) 1998 study shows that homeschool parents have a higher income than average (1.4 times by one estimate),[53] and are more likely to have an advanced education. Rudner found that homeschooling parents tend to have more formal education than parents in the general population; that the median income for homeschooling families ($52,000) is significantly higher than that of all families with children in the United States ($36,000); that 98% of homeschooled children live in "married couple families"; that 77% of home school mothers do not participate in the labour force, whereas 98% of homeschooling fathers do participate in the labour force; and that median annual expenses for educational materials are approximately $400 per home school student.[64]
There is some self selection for success in that sample pool, rather then an argument for one method over another. HE must not have even read the study or LIED about it thinking that no one else would.
Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling)
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Excellent find, Flounder! :tup:
It turns out that this study (http://http://epaa.asu.edu/epaa/v7n8/) actually does make that statement, however that statement does not quite claim to mean what Gauld would have you believe.
Lawrence Rudner notes, with regard to GES interpretations (colored emphasis mine):
Grade Equivalent Scores are particularly useful for estimating a student's developmental status in terms of grade. But, these scores must be interpreted carefully. An GES Score of 6.3 in reading for an 9 year old in the 3rd grade, for example, clearly indicates that the third grader is doing well. This does not, however, mean that the third grader belongs in the 6th grade. It only means that the third grader can read as well as a sixth grader.
The usual interpretation of a Grade Equivalent Score of 6.3 for a third grader is that this third grade student can read third grade material as well as a sixth grader can read third grade material, not that he or she can read sixth grade material.
As to Joe's specific claims, namely: "A University of Maryland study of 24,000 home schooled students found that by ninth-grade, they were academically four grades ahead of their public school counterparts!" ...Well, the study was actually of "20,760 students in 11,930 families" (not 24,000), but that might be too petty a fact to quibble over. And he also got the grade wrong, but I'll assume for the sake of simplicity that this was due to faulty memory or a typographical error. The original from whence Joe's prose was gleaned is from the following section discussing Table 3.5 (colored and underlined emphasis mine):
Compared to students nationwide, the median fourth-grade home school student test performance is 1.1 grade equivalents above his public/private school peers. By 8th grade, the median performance of home school students on the ITBS/TAP is almost four grade equivalents above that of students nationwide. Similar trends hold for all subject areas.
The reader should recognize that the grade equivalent scale tends to magnify differences at the high school level and that the percentile scale is more meaningful in these higher grades. While 50% of eighth grade home school students have scores that are 4 grade equivalents above the public school median, so do some 20% of eighth grade students in public schools. The revealing statistics are the percentiles which are consistently high across grade levels and subject areas.
This certainly does point to a statistically higher academic performance in home-schooled kids (in THIS particular study), but does not, by any stretch of the imagination imply or infer that home schooled 8th graders are ready to commence their college matriculations by the following year.
Joe choose to interpret "Grade Equivalent Scores" to be ... equivalent to ... GRADES:
4 grade equivalents above the public school median" (Rudner)
.........DOES NOT EQUAL.........
"four grades ahead of their public school counterparts" (Gauld)[/list]
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My point is that Joe is contrasting good family values vs the corrupting influence of money. The study shows that the families that home school have more money. Family incomes in this group were much higher then the median income of 1998 AND the Moms were able to stay at home AND Mom and Dad were more highly educated then the norm. So you are comparing a socio-economically advantaged population with the norm, then contrasing that with inner city kids that are motivated by money. Am I missing something here?
Ok if that was not enough Mr Attitude over Aptitude, who is so high and mighty about rejecting the achievement culture of public schools, is using a public school achievement metric in his argument.
Something is fishy and I don't think it is sole.
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My point is that Joe is contrasting good family values vs the corrupting influence of money. The study shows that the families that home school have more money. Family incomes in this group were much higher then the median income of 1998 AND the Moms were able to stay at home AND Mom and Dad were more highly educated then the norm. So you are comparing a socio-economically advantaged population with the norm, then contrasing that with inner city kids that are motivated by money. Am I missing something here?
Ok if that was not enough Mr Attitude over Aptitude, who is so high and mighty about rejecting the achievement culture of public schools, is using a public school achievement metric in his argument.
Something is fishy and I don't think it is sole.
I couldn't agree more. Plus... it's all very well for Joe to reject the "achievement culture" once HE himself has already achieved economic security (by virtue of fleecing the desperate-parent contingent)...
Note also that Joe Gauld didn't exactly start at the bottom, despite his tear-jerking depictions of penurious difficulty. He grew up in Wellesley, MA (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellesley,_Massachusetts) -- where the average median property value is currently at least $900,000, if I'm not mistaken -- Chrissakes, just how bad could it have been?! (Blanche Westhaver Gauld also grew up there for the latter part of her childhood; from the age of 9 years old onwards, if Hyde's own lore is to be believed.)
Some snippets from Wikipedia:
Higher education
...According to Boston Magazine's yearly "Best Places To Live," Wellesley ranks first in the United States in percentage of adults who hold at least one college degree. Over 66% of the households have at least one individual holding an advanced degree beyond a Bachelor's Degree. In 2009, Wellesley ranked #2 in "America's Most Educated Small Towns (http://http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/02/educated-small-towns-forbeslife-cx_jd_0105realestate.html)" according to Forbes.
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Wellesley's Wonderful Weekend
Each year the weekend before Memorial Day, The Town of Wellesley sponsors the annual Wellesley's Wonderful Weekend which includes the annual Veterans' Parade and Fireworks. The fireworks display is one of the most elaborate and spectacular shows that is done by local or town government in the United States. It is put on by Atlas Fireworks of Jaffrey, NH who also put on the Jaffrey Festival of Fireworks. On Sunday, May 18, 2008 the Beach Boys performed in a concert on the Wellesley High School athletic fields in front of an estimated 10,000 town residents and fans. The funds for the performance, an estimated 250 thousand dollars, were made as a gift by an anonymous donor and life long fan of the band.
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My point is that Joe is contrasting good family values vs the corrupting influence of money. The study shows that the families that home school have more money. Family incomes in this group were much higher then the median income of 1998 AND the Moms were able to stay at home AND Mom and Dad were more highly educated then the norm. So you are comparing a socio-economically advantaged population with the norm, then contrasing that with inner city kids that are motivated by money. Am I missing something here?
Ok if that was not enough Mr Attitude over Aptitude, who is so high and mighty about rejecting the achievement culture of public schools, is using a public school achievement metric in his argument.
Something is fishy and I don't think it is sole.
I have just a couple more points to make before going on to the next "Finding"... Not that this one necessarily deserves so much attention, but just because I still have said points percolating in my mind...
To recap thus far (if I interpret the other comments correctly):
1. Joe sees fit to compare the incomparable, i.e., a socio-economically advantaged population with the whole student population, which includes kids from all socio-economic strata (btw, this is exactly the strategy used by some conservative charter school proponents to skew interpretation of school test results in their favor, i.e., they compare results with districts that include large urban districts (http://http://www.freep.com/article/20090414/NEWS06/904140313) instead of just their own, often more affluent neighborhoods).[/list]
2. Joe decries money-based incentives used by inner-city parents in an effort to better their kids' motivation to excel, saying, "this practice replaces the character quality of curiosity with the crass new value of personal gain." Geeeezzzz... Some folk can ill afford the "curiosity" when they are just barely surviving the economic gauntlet. For shame that these parents should resort to gauche tricks in the hopes that their kids have a better life than they do.[/list]
3. Joe is using public school standards of comparison (i.e., standardized tests) to evaluate the relative strengths of a public vs. a home schooled education. These are, of course, but a small portion of the entire educational experience.[/list]
4. Joe cannot read or interpret data correctly. 'Nuff said.[/list]
Okay... Two more points:
5. The study Joe chose to cite may well be atypical. The demographics of the population in Lawrence Rudner's study would appear to be significantly different, on certain axes, than that found in a 2000–2001 Barna Survey of homeschooling parents. Wikipedia (same article (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling)) summarizes those demographics as follows (italics as per original):
According to a 2000–2001 Barna survey,[61][62] home school parents are 39 percent less likely to be college graduates, 21 percent more likely to be married, 28 percent less likely to have experienced a divorce, and that the household income is 10% below the national average. Barna found that homeschoolers in the U.S. live predominantly in the Mid-Atlantic, the South-Atlantic, and the Pacific states. It found that homeschoolers are almost twice as likely to be evangelical as the national average (15 percent vs 8 percent), and that 91 percent describe themselves as Christian, although only 49 percent can be classified as "born again Christians." It found they were five times more likely to describe themselves as "mostly conservative" on political matters than as "mostly liberal," although only about 37 percent chose "mostly conservative", and were "notably" more likely than the national average to have a high view of the Bible and hold orthodox Christian beliefs.
One might even say that ... Joe seeks results to match his premise?
6. The reference to homeschooling in Joe's Finding #5 is not trivial. I imagine that home schoolers are, in fact, a significant portion of the target audience that The Biggest Job materials are marketed to. Or, for that matter, the Hyde Foundation materials...
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Onwards...
LOL! According to Joe Gauld... it always boils down to preventing a child from manipulating the parent, doesn't it? Joe must have been pretty good at it in his day, for him to obsess about it for so many decades later...
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Founder's Findings #6: Do not seek your child's love. (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=xfKHFPj9Bs8%3D)
9/30/2008
A child enters the world knowing he/she is totally dependent upon an adult for survival. Thus, the child quickly internalizes the fear of abandonment, including the fear the parent may become distracted by other interests. Therefore, the child earnestly seeks the parent's love in order to feel the security of knowing this adult will always be there for him/her.
But when the parent seeks the child's love, the child soon realizes there is no longer any need to seek the parent's love—he/she already has it. In fact, the child now has the luxury of learning how to manipulate the parent's 'love' in order to have life his/her own way!
So, simply focus on properly preparing your child for life, and you will gain both your child's trust and love.
- Joseph Gauld
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A child enters the world knowing he/she is totally dependent upon an adult for survival. Thus, the child quickly internalizes the fear of abandonment, including the fear the parent may become distracted by other interests. Therefore, the child earnestly seeks the parent's love in order to feel the security of knowing this adult will always be there for him/her.
When the child seeks the parent's love, the parent soon realizes there is no longer any need to seek the child's love—he/she already has it. In fact, the parent now has the luxury of learning how to manipulate the child's 'love' in order to have life his/her own way!
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A child enters the world knowing he/she is totally dependent upon an adult for survival. Thus, the child quickly internalizes the fear of abandonment, including the fear the parent may become distracted by other interests. Therefore, the child earnestly seeks the parent's love in order to feel the security of knowing this adult will always be there for him/her.
When the child seeks the parent's love, the parent soon realizes there is no longer any need to seek the child's love—he/she already has it. In fact, the parent now has the luxury of learning how to manipulate the child's 'love' in order to have life his/her own way!
:rofl: :rofl:
Unfortunately, that is exactly how some parents are...
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This Founder's Finding takes a big step toward explaining how some weird old dude dressed in plaid visits a college campus and red-faced and spittle-mouthed "has his way" with a fresh Hyde grad.
Incidentally, my parents, who were out of the Hyde loop, were the first to tell me about Joe's exploit. Word traveled in the pre-Internet era.
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This Founder's Finding takes a big step toward explaining how some weird old dude dressed in plaid visits a college campus and red-faced and spittle-mouthed "has his way" with a fresh Hyde grad.
Incidentally, my parents, who were out of the Hyde loop, were the first to tell me about Joe's exploit. Word traveled in the pre-Internet era.
I still can't get my head around that one. I am just about Joe's age in ,what 1978? I just can't see my self hooking up with a college freshman, a college freshman's Mom maybe. Not a girl less then half my age. And then to have had an authority figure role in the girls life ..... geez. She seem to be doing ok but I got to believe it would have left a mark. I would think that would estrange you from your peers: hey! there's the girl that banged Joe. I bet she has never been back to any of the Hyde reunions even thought she was a popular and well liked student. I have to admit I don't have that problem. "What he doing here?" is the reaction I get when I visit Bath. Ancient history.
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This Founder's Finding takes a big step toward explaining how some weird old dude dressed in plaid visits a college campus and red-faced and spittle-mouthed "has his way" with a fresh Hyde grad.
Incidentally, my parents, who were out of the Hyde loop, were the first to tell me about Joe's exploit. Word traveled in the pre-Internet era.
I still can't get my head around that one. I am just about Joe's age in ,what 1978? I just can't see my self hooking up with a college freshman, a college freshman's Mom maybe. Not a girl less then half my age. And then to have had an authority figure role in the girls life ..... geez. She seem to be doing ok but I got to believe it would have left a mark. I would think that would estrange you from your peers: hey! there's the girl that banged Joe. I bet she has never been back to any of the Hyde reunions even thought she was a popular and well liked student. I have to admit I don't have that problem. "What he doing here?" is the reaction I get when I visit Bath. Ancient history.
Joe Gauld reminds me a lot of that Jesuit priest John Powell, who taught at Loyola University (Chicago) in various of its schools, from 1965 'till 1996 or 2001 (depending on source). He had a "gift" for helping troubled youth, was considered a "relationship expert," ran spiritual retreats and provided counseling for folks going through difficult times.
He also wrote about two and a half dozen books (with more than 15 million copies having been sold altogether), which are basically smarmy feel-good pulp "mixing Catholic theology and spiritual devotion with psychology and self-help," starting with the internationally proclaimed ::) Why Am I Afraid to Tell You Who I Am? (sound familiar?).
All these decades of being held in untouchable high esteem, and just six years ago, the sexual abuse cases finally started to hit the press. Women are suing Father Powell and the Jesuits for sexual abuse which occurred starting back in the mid 1960s. By this time he is safely squirreled away in a nursing home and cannot come to the phone for comment.
From a September 2003 article (http://http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news/2003_09_09_Falsani_4Women.htm) about the first lawsuit (there have been 3 so far, all with multiple plaintiffs):
Regnier, 50, a professional choreographer for a modern dance troupe in New York City, met Powell when she was in seventh grade after her mother went on a retreat led by the priest.
"One of my sisters wanted to become a cloistered nun, and [my mother] was worried about that. So she brought [Powell] home," Regnier said. "One time when he was taking off my shirt . . . he told me about this nun who had opened her habit to poor children in Africa to give of herself, that she was nursing these kids. . . . Father Powell reached in and ripped out my soul."[/list]
Like Father Powell, Joe Gauld is practicing thought coercion while he is preaching a moral ideology. When sexual abuse or coercion occurs in that context, the damage and trauma is far more complex than simple pedophilia or inappropriate "May-December" relationships; its victims often suffer in relative silence for decades. Like Father Powell, Joe placed himself in a position of mentor, teacher, pseudo-therapist, and violated the trust of all concerned with little or no consequences. Like Father Powell, Joe has a whole community which caters to, sanctions, and enforces his proselytizing froth. Unlike Father Powell, Joe's community is of his own creation, hence, his responsibility extends -- to some degree -- to the shenanigans of his followers as well.
As to AVH... I'm sure that incident has left a mark; a confusing, difficult to untangle, and destructive mark. Perhaps, at this point in her life, she might agree with that statement, perhaps not. FWIW, I'm sure Joe tried for others.
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Here is an article from a few months ago, regarding more of Father John Powell's exploits revealed through the most recently filed lawsuit; color emphasis mine:
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The Phoenix
The Official Student Newspaper of Loyola University, Chicago[/list]
Priest accused of sexual abuse (http://http://media.www.loyolaphoenix.com/media/storage/paper673/news/2008/12/04/News/Priest.Accused.Of.Sexual.Abuse-3569566.shtml)
Former Loyola Jesuit was professor, author and counselor
Steven Kent
Issue date: 12/4/08 Section: News[/list]
As a Jesuit and a professor at Loyola University Chicago, the Rev. John Powell, S.J., built a reputation as a popular teacher and a best-selling religious author - and all of it was called into question again last month as he faced his third sexual abuse lawsuit since 2003.
The civil lawsuit, filed Nov. 6 by the plaintiff "Jane Doe 125," who has chosen to remain anonymous to the public, claimed that Powell held "private counseling sessions" with her during a religious retreat in 1967. During these sessions, said the official complaint, he forced her to kiss him and required her to remove her school uniform so that he could fondle her.
The lawsuit also named the Chicago Province of the Society of Jesus, or the Jesuits, as a defendant on counts of negligence and fraud, and stated that the Jesuits knew about Powell's pedophilic tendencies before the alleged incident and failed to act on that knowledge.
Powell, 83, now retired in Michigan, worked as a professor of theology at Loyola from 1965 until his retirement in 1996. During that time, he held spiritual retreats and wrote popular books such as Fully Human, Fully Alive, inspirational self-help manuals that blended pop psychology with Catholic theology and established him as "one of the best-selling spiritual authors of our time," according to Publishers Weekly.
"This guy sells books about sexually intimate relationships, and the Jesuits make millions off of them, and it's a fraud, a complete fraud," said attorney Marc Pearlman, who represents the anonymous plaintiff for the law firm Kerns, Frost and Pearlman. "The guy was sexually abusing his students and people who came to him for counseling."
He also, according to a number of accusers, used his position as a counselor and professor to abuse young girls. Throughout the years he was assigned to Loyola University, the lawsuit said, Powell held spiritual retreats that brought him into contact with minor children. It was during one of these retreats, held at Rosarian Academy in West Palm Beach, Fla., that he sexually abused the plaintiff, according to the lawsuit. She was "approximately 16 or 17," the suit said.
The lawsuit also claimed that Powell "engaged in a pattern and practice of sexually abusing Loyola University students." In 2006, a former Loyola University student, Diane Ruhl, named the Chicago order of Jesuits as the defendant in a civil lawsuit along with three other women. The lawsuit, which is still pending, claimed that Powell sexually abused Ruhl during private counseling sessions while she attended Loyola and also said that both Jesuit leaders and Loyola administrators received reports of Powell's alleged abuses and ignored them.
Powell has never been charged with a crime.
Pearlman, the attorney, represented four women in a 2003 sexual abuse lawsuit against Powell, which the defendant settled publicly in 2005. He said that he has dealt with a number of women who have come forward and claimed that Powell abused them, enough to convince him that there may have been dozens more.
"I really doubt the number is just six or seven or 13," he said. "We had a client, her sister went to Loyola and he was abusing her 13-year-old sister. He used to frequent the house, and he'd tell her parents he was going to tuck her in and bless her and read her confession, and then he'd abuse her. A 13 year-old."
Powell could not be reached for comment. A statement from the Chicago Province of the Society of Jesus said he was in "extremely poor health, requiring 24-hour medical care and supervision."
Pearlman also said that in his experience, the Jesuits displayed a record of covering up sex abuse within their ranks.
"The Jesuits have a history of being horrible on these types of issues," he said. "They've had sex abusers in their ranks, they've known about them, they've covered it up, they've transferred them and ignored it, and Powell's not the only example. I really think the way they approached this sex issue was to sweep it under the rug."
Pearlman pointed to the case of the Rev. Donald McGuire, S.J., as an example. A public jury convicted McGuire in a 2006 criminal trial of sexually abusing two teenage boys in Chicago in the 1960s. Documents show that Chicago Jesuit leaders received alerts about McGuire's behavior dozens of times during his career, according to multiple news sources.
A spokesperson for the Jesuits' Chicago Province said he was not able to comment by phone. In an e-mailed response statement, the Rev. Edward Schmidt, S.J., Chicago Provincial of the Society of Jesus, said that the Chicago Province does not comment on ongoing legal proceedings out of respect for the judicial system.
"The Province takes allegations of sexual misconduct seriously," said the statement, "investigates them fully, and cooperates with authorities. We believe the individuals who have come forward deserve our understanding and prayers."
The statement also encouraged anyone who has been abused by a member of the Province to contact the appropriate law enforcement or child protection agency no matter what amount of time has passed since the abuse.
Barbara Blaine, founder and president of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests (SNAP), agreed with Pearlman's estimate, calling the Jesuits "the worst in this country" in terms of religious organizations with a track record of concealing abuse. SNAP is a Chicago-based national advocacy and support group for survivors of sexual clerical abuse.
Blaine said that the 30 year span between the alleged incident and the lawsuit typified cases of clerical abuse based on her experience, especially so with cases involving Jesuit priests. She also said she was disappointed by Loyola University's lack of response to the claims of abuse by Powell.
"When you're raped by a teacher in your school," she said, "you're not really in a position to speak up or do anything about it. It takes years, sometimes decades of healing to withstand the scrutiny, especially because the Jesuits and Loyola do not make it easy for victims to speak up."
Steve Christensen, communications manager at Loyola University Chicago, declined to respond. He said that the university refers all questions about Powell and the alleged abuse to the Jesuits' Chicago Province and said that university officials would not comment on the lawsuit.
In an e-mail response, Ellen Kane Munro, vice president and general counsel at Loyola, said that the university "will not tolerate sexual abuse, or indeed sexual harassment of any kind, by anyone, including its faculty and the Jesuits."
Pearlman said the case might reach a settlement, but he promised to make the results public.
"If the Jesuits want to step up and settle the case," he said, "that's always better for the victims, but it will be public, whether it goes through the courts or not."
© 2006 The Phoenix
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There's another thing that Joe Gauld and John Powell have in common, outside of the predilection for young, impressionable, psyches and nubile flesh, and that has to do with their "philosophical" background in the hokey pseudo psychology -- and its accompanying toolbox for manipulating minds -- borne out of the Human Potential movement. Of course, you could go back even further, and delve into the Western world's obsession with pasting Asian philosophical concepts onto a Occident culture, completely removed from the history or context of their origin. Rudolf Steiner knew a thing or two about that...
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Onwards with more Joe-fluff!! :seg:
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Founder's Findings #7: Emphasize "principles over personalities" in your parenting. (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=Z%2BOv9pyHEz4%3D)
10/7/2008
This is powerfully illustrated by an episode one morning when our son Malcolm was about three. I was late for class, and he had crawled into bed with Blanche, watching me frantically trying to get dressed. I was increasingly frustrated by not finding what I needed, so when I opened the drawer filled with socks, none of which matched, I finally exploded. I started angrily throwing them on the floor: "I wish [throw] I had [throw] two socks [throw] that matched!" Whereupon Mal said, "If you act that way about it, you won’t get any!" Blanche threw the sheet up over her head, and I stood there like a chastened child.
The story highlights that even at this early age, children are capable of seeing beyond our dominant parental personalities to grasp our principles and values. Since we ourselves are imperfect, we must teach our kids that our principles are their ultimate authority, not us.
- Joseph Gauld
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The man whose conscience does not trouble him must have it pretty well trained.
Founder's Findings #37: Belief #8: Conscience.
5/5/2009
"Labour to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire, called conscience." - George Washington
"A peace above all earthly dignities, A still and quiet conscience." - William Shakespeare (King Henry VIII)
"The human voice can never reach the distance that is covered by the still small voice of conscience." - Gandhi
"Every human has four endowments - self awareness, conscience, independent will and creative imagination. These give us the ultimate human freedom... The power to choose, to respond, to change." - Stephen Covey
"Conscience is the root of all true courage; if a man would be brave let him obey his conscience." - James Clarke, American Minister
"Nothing is more powerful than an individual acting out of his conscience, thus helping to bring the collective conscience to life." - Norman Cousins, American Editor
- Joseph Galls
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Founder's Findings #7: Emphasize "principles over personalities" in your parenting. (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=Z%2BOv9pyHEz4%3D)
10/7/2008
This is powerfully illustrated by an episode one morning when our son Malcolm was about three. I was late for class, and he had crawled into bed with Blanche, watching me frantically trying to get dressed. I was increasingly frustrated by not finding what I needed, so when I opened the drawer filled with socks, none of which matched, I finally exploded. I started angrily throwing them on the floor: "I wish [throw] I had [throw] two socks [throw] that matched!" Whereupon Mal said, "If you act that way about it, you won't get any!" Blanche threw the sheet up over her head, and I stood there like a chastened child.
The story highlights that even at this early age, children are capable of seeing beyond our dominant parental personalities to grasp our principles and values. Since we ourselves are imperfect, we must teach our kids that our principles are their ultimate authority, not us.
- Joseph Gauld
Cute. Joey tells a dirty joke. If he hadn't "got any", there wouldn't be a little Mal!
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Founder's Findings #8: Help children transcend their lesser "wants." (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=oipdkqpG6LQ%3D)
10/14/2008
Parents must teach their children how to determine the difference between their growth needs—what they must gain to become the great individuals they were meant to be—and their wants—what they desire that may sometimes hinder their best growth.
Children are born with primal "want" instincts that parents must help them transcend:
- Self-gratification—the potential tyranny of desires and addictions. Constantly instill in children the habit of delayed gratification—work before play; vegetables before dessert; hard before easy, etc.
- Self-protection—the potential tyranny of fear. Encourage children to be open, to take risks, to face bullies, etc. Courage is the source of our individuality.
- Self-centeredness—the potential tyranny of narcissism. Continually make children aware, respectful of and helpful to others. We were meant to help others in life.
- Joseph Gauld
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Founder's Findings #8: Help children transcend their lesser "wants." (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=oipdkqpG6LQ%3D)
10/14/2008
Parents must teach their children how to determine the difference between their growth needs—what they must gain to become the great individuals they were meant to be—and their wants—what they desire that may sometimes hinder their best growth.
Children are born with primal "want" instincts that parents must help them transcend:
- Self-gratification—the potential tyranny of desires and addictions. Constantly instill in children the habit of delayed gratification—work before play; vegetables before dessert; hard before easy, etc.
- Self-protection—the potential tyranny of fear. Encourage children to be open, to take risks, to face bullies, etc. Courage is the source of our individuality.
- Self-centeredness—the potential tyranny of narcissism. Continually make children aware, respectful of and helpful to others. We were meant to help others in life.
- Joseph Gauld
If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have ...
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Most children seem to "transcend" those primal "want" instincts with but little help from anyone, just by growing up. Joe seems to be still working on his transcendence, however.
Is Hyde School just one big rationalization for Joe's attempts to grow up and learn about himself? What an expensive playground.
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Most children seem to "transcend" those primal "want" instincts with but little help from anyone, just by growing up. Joe seems to be still working on his transcendence, however.
Is Hyde School just one big rationalization for Joe's attempts to grow up and learn about himself? What an expensive playground.
Good point. Kids have been growing up long before '66 or '67. We have a case of the rooster claiming credit for the sunrise here.
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Self-protection—the potential tyranny of fear. Encourage children to be open, to take risks, to face bullies, etc. Courage is the source of our individuality.
At the heart of every bully is.. a coward.
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Founder's Findings #9: Raising teenagers (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=hYf6OuXqL8g%3D)
10/21/2008
It is important to realize that teenagers experience a major brain transformation. For example, those who drink irresponsibly between the ages of 11 and 15 are five times more likely to become an alcoholic than those who drink irresponsibly at age 20.
Other facts:
- Teenagers do not think the way adults do. Thus, we must take extra care to make sure they really understand us, and we really understand them.
- Since the risk taking part of their brain develops before their decision making frontal cortex, we need to realize they are going to be impulsive and often make poor decisions.
- Their brains are experiencing a "use it or lose it" phase. If they are actively involved in academics, sports or music, those are the ruts being created. If they are a TV "couch potato" or playing video games, those are the ruts being created. We need to inspire them to seek real growth.
- Joseph Gauld
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playing video games
One of the most valuable assets the Military currently has is this kid that grew up playing video games. He flys predator drones for the Army. He has a very high success rate.
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this shit is a riot!!!!! major brain transformation?? WoW I never knew!
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- Their brains are experiencing a "use it or lose it" phase. If they are actively involved in academics, sports or music, those are the ruts being created. If they are a TV "couch potato" or playing video games, those are the ruts being created. We need to inspire them to seek real growth.
Seems like Joe is mixing his metaphors a little here! "Use it or lose it" doesn't refer to ruts being created through preferential use, but to loss of muscle tone due to inactivity.
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- Their brains are experiencing a "use it or lose it" phase. If they are actively involved in academics, sports or music, those are the ruts being created. If they are a TV "couch potato" or playing video games, those are the ruts being created. We need to inspire them to seek real growth.
Seems like Joe is mixing his metaphors a little here! "Use it or lose it" doesn't refer to ruts being created through preferential use, but to loss of muscle tone due to inactivity.
Joe's not using his brain muscle. He's losing it.
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Individuality may very well be revered in certain sections of America, but certainly not at Hyde School! lol!
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Founder's Findings #10: The Hyde Way vs. American Education (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=wDbE15SQFA0%3D)
10/28/2008
I walked in on a discussion between Yolanda (not her real name), a brand new 8th grade transfer student, and Dr. Jo Ann Cason, the head of our Hyde-DC Leadership Public Charter School.
It was a pleasant chit-chat conversation, but I gathered that Jo Ann had brought Yolanda to her office because she had been very disrespectful to a teacher. Jo Ann caught a sparkle in Yolanda's eye when she turned the talk to music, so she asked Yolanda who her favorite artists were. The discussion became more animated, and finally Jo Ann asked Yolanda to sing for her. After some encouragement, Yolanda began to sing. Jo Ann nearly jumped out of her chair and then told Yolanda to stop while she went to get several others to hear this beautiful voice.
When Yolanda finished to our applause, we then had a serious discussion how Hyde was going to be a new experience to help her bring out this deeper side of herself, as well as a struggle with her old self to achieve this transformation. Jo Ann then directed Yolanda to check in with her for a week.
Yolanda will undoubtedly require more help than this to fully realize her deeper self. But she is now in a revolutionary school where the primary concern of the faculty, students and staff is to help each student like her discover and develop her character and her unique potential.
This episode highlights a solution to American education's plight: Rigorous educational discipline must be accompanied by equally rigorous efforts of self discovery. This is absolutely true for America where individuality is revered.
- Joseph Gauld
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I cant believe this fraud is still shooting his mouth off.
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Yolanda will undoubtedly require more help than this to fully realize her deeper self. But she is now in a revolutionary school where the primary concern of the faculty, students and staff is to help each student like her discover and develop her character and her unique potential.
I can almost hear the violins.
The concept of "unique potential" at Hyde is a myth. In fact, you could say that is an oxymoronic phrase, if ever there was such a thing... :D
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So the interesting thing about Hyde and the concept of character, is that the founding family are the people who lack character the most. And their unique potential has never been truly discovered, unless Malcolm's unique potential is to write a blog and play basketball all day. Surely he must have more potential than that, he's certainly getting paid a lot to just do that.
The issue with character and the founding family, is that if you want to sell it, you have to practice it. And if you want the kids to practice it, you need to model it for them. Instead, the "non-profit" institution is all about making a profit for the family. It's no different than any other corporation in America, with big executive bonuses, screw the underlings, who cares about the investors, as long as I get my money at the end of the day.
A person of character would recognize that in financial times like these, if you believe in your business, you must sacrifice to make it survive and make sure that the mission is first and foremost the priority. Take care of the business i.e. the students and the employees. Pay them first. Pay yourself last. Take care of the people who are putting money in your pocket- the students and faculty. How do you pay the students? Provide them with decent living conditions, quality instructors, a healthy environment.
People want leadership, integrity, courage. Who at Hyde is going to step up to the plate to provide it? When will the family stop taking from the institution and give back to help it survive? It would be the smart thing to do. It would demonstrate character and integrity, a commitment to the cause, not just the bottom line. Why is Hyde in financial trouble? (See thread about selling Crow's Nest) Because the family can't afford to pay themselves the overinflated salaries they get (and this doesn't even include everything the "business" provides for them that they don't pay any taxes on) for not running their business properly.
And where is the board of trustees who should be overseeing all this? Too afraid to challenge the family, I'm sure.
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The issue with character and the founding family, is that if you want to sell it, you have to practice it. And if you want the kids to practice it, you need to model it for them. Instead, the "non-profit" institution is all about making a profit for the family. It's no different than any other corporation in America, with big executive bonuses, screw the underlings, who cares about the investors, as long as I get my money at the end of the day.
I think there is a big question as to whether they are actually selling character development or not. I think you can safely say they are trying to sell the appearance of character development. Take a good look at just who awarded them the title of "expert" in the field. They themselves did. That says a lot right there.
Why is Hyde in financial trouble? (See thread about selling Crow's Nest) Because the family can't afford to pay themselves the overinflated salaries they get (and this doesn't even include everything the "business" provides for them that they don't pay any taxes on) for not running their business properly.
I imagine that getting in bed with Big Tobacco (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=26127)'s marketing experts doesn't come at a pittance. The internet is being bombarded with Gauld blogs/essays, glossy "sister websites," and viral marketing crapola to the Nth degree. All of this costs. Who is paying those bills, when all is said and done?
Thread about selling Crow's Nest: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=28739 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=28739)
And where is the board of trustees who should be overseeing all this? Too afraid to challenge the family, I'm sure.
I imagine a fair number of them are still busy drinking the Kool-Aid. Most them have vested ideological interests in the "success" of Hyde, unfortunately, or are too removed from what actually goes on there to have a clue. If you check out the backgrounds of the respective individuals, you'll find that many of them have more or less direct ties to Hyde.
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This sounds more like an excuse for Joe's lack of "academic excellence" ... than it does a championing cry for respecting the unique potential of the lower 90. ;D
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Founder’s Findings #11: How do you reach a student's mind? (http://http://www.hyde.edu/podium/default.aspx?t=204&id=6Cy7GLLr%2Bc4%3D)
11/4/2008
Americans raise children to demand respect for themselves. Try to see schools through children's eyes. Only about 10% of them are naturally gifted at academics; our competitive approach essentially ends up disciplining the rest to follow their lead. So we unwittingly disrespect their unique potential. While they may accept academics as necessary, they will seek respect and their spirit elsewhere.
- Joseph Gauld