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General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 23, 2009, 08:45:01 PM
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No it isn't.
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Yes it is, because I said so.
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AA has its roots in Christianity (The Oxford Group) and especially Catholicism with the confession in the 4th step (the original 6 steps they had before the 12 were a more direct derivation).
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Cult indeed.
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It's not a blame game although I realize some may interpret some of my posts as such. Bill Wilson could have picked up some ideas from the Catholic Church and misused them. For example, the 5th step - where you confess everything to your sponsor. The Church would never approve of confession to some unauthorized person, priests are trained and trusted to protect this kind of information. I've heard of problems within AA of the sponsor going back out and blackmailing former sponsees based on their 4th step. I'm just a "student" of sorts trying to put together all the chickens and eggs in this whole drug/recovery mess.
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Not all AA Sponsors confine their zealousness to the "work" of AA. A major source of new recruits for the Mankind Project is through AA sponsors.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23476&p=288277#p288277 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23476&p=288277#p288277)
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=24677&start=30#p308485 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=24677&start=30#p308485)
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AA is a cult? :roflmao: :beat: :D
Some of you have gone off the deep end.
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Its my opinion is that any school of thought that teaches any level of disregard of, or forbids the questioning of its own principals against alternate thoughts or beliefs is, or has the ripe potential to be, a cult.
Including Christianity, AA, etc.
The idea that there is only one truth in a world so diverse is cripplingly narrow.
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Yeah man, I agree. Also, the way they generalize - "you're going back out there and to prison if you don't work step 8". People are physically, psychologically and genetically different - who is AA to apply these statements to everyone just because the statements were true for themselves? ALL of the mind control programs, be they passive or aggressive, generalize. None that I ever heard of allow for any human uniqueness. WE ALL must feel our feelings, WE ALL can't do this, can do that, etc.
Life sciences such as Biology are finding there are many differences in persons due to DNA and other factors. Trivially every person is unique, that is obvious. So how are these "blanket treatments" supposed to help? Maybe that's part of the story as to why their failure rate is so high.
Its my opinion is that any school of thought that teaches any level of disregard of, or forbids the questioning of its own principals against alternate thoughts or beliefs is, or has the ripe potential to be, a cult.
Including Christianity, AA, etc.
The idea that there is only one truth in a world so diverse is cripplingly narrow.