Fornits
General Interest => Open Free for All => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 20, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
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For the first 3-5 years I NEEDED to go to 5 meetings a week and live in a sober living house with 12 other women. My brain has been engraved with all I learned from AA – whenever I am unsettled I go right back to all the things those people taught me. 13 years later, I still don’t make “big decisions” without the advice of my trusted advisors – you all know who you are. When there is chaos, I go back to the beginning and make gratitude lists…whatever works.
If Pam does not renounce AA, her address and phone number will be posted.
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That's fucked up. Pam has a right to choose what she wants. Who gives a shit if she went to AA. She has a right to choose and believes others have that same right (as do I). She's against forced treament and against forced attendance in AA. What you're trying to do is exactly the same that many programs and cult-like organizations do: force a person to conform to your viewpoint.
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As a comprimise if she admits openly on fornits that she has had at least one drink in the past year then only her phone number will be released. Its only fair that she is given a choice and some control over what is posted.
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I honestly dont get why this person (troll) is so obsessed with Pam.
its really creepy.
troll on doode but seriously, its obvious you have got some major mommy issues.
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As a comprimise if she admits openly on fornits that she has had at least one drink in the past year then only her phone number will be released. Its only fair that she is given a choice and some control over what is posted.
This is not a program. Why are you trying to get her to admit to something she didn't do, or maybe she did, but even if she did, what business of it is yours. Get bent, asshole.
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OMG..this is really crazy.
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It's different this time because the Houston Police are involved.
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:facepalms:
And people wonder why survivors rarely are taken seriously?
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For the first 3-5 years I NEEDED to go to 5 meetings a week and live in a sober living house with 12 other women. My brain has been engraved with all I learned from AA – whenever I am unsettled I go right back to all the things those people taught me. 13 years later, I still don’t make “big decisions” without the advice of my trusted advisors – you all know who you are. When there is chaos, I go back to the beginning and make gratitude lists…whatever works.
If Pam does not renounce AA, her address and phone number will be posted.
I will save everyone the trouble of waiting to find out if I will renounce AA, admit that I have had a drink last year, and have my address and phone number posted nevertheless.
Point 1 - No, I have NOT had a drink in 13+ years.
Point 2 - My phone & address is as follows:
You snooze..you lose! Address removed at request of other members of this forum
If you use Google Earth, you will see a HUGE Palm tree - that is my house! Have fun!!!
FYI...I have a compound with heavy security and closed circuit TV all around my property. I welcome any unwanted visitors to step one foot on my property and see what happens....LMAO!
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If my entrence was blocked by a black jeep and a light blue car (which it was when Google Street went around), I would be mad. You have to have the right to park as near your house as possible.
While our policy at Spft prevent us form outing ourselves, the address of our founder can be seen on his private webpage (http://http://www.carstenovergaard.dk). It is not a secret and I have permission to out it. His car has a different color today because it was run over by a drunk driver. He doesn't consult AA, NA and anything else. At no point in his life such services have been needed. His injuries prevent him from drinking alcohol and also take painkillers or any other medication. He wont die if he do, but he need to be able to alert a doctor whenever the level of pain changes.
Google maps are unable to locate the exact house, but it is the last one in the first row just after Park Alle turns. Just in case some gets the idea to try to convince the courts in Denmark to a raid for documents, I have to discourage you. No information about the volunteers are kept at that address, if you should find a court in Denmark who would fight free speech. Due to his continued heath problems, Spft are in a proces of getting a new chairman.
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This is so gross. Pam edit out your personal info. The anti-A.A. harasser just makes his p.o.v seem populated by idiotic, reality-disconnected zealots
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This is so gross. Pam edit out your personal info. The anti-A.A. harasser just makes his p.o.v seem populated by idiotic, reality-disconnected zealots
Isn't it tho?? Thank you for expressing your disgust at what someone is attempting to do to me. I really have nothing to hide from anyone. This person get's their kicks out of trying to play games with me and threaten to disclose personal info...so be it. I would rather post it first...correctly! I am sure that we will all be seeing more undated quotes from my blog in the days to come...lol!
Never take things personally! Thanks for the concern tho..
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The anti-A.A. harasser just makes his p.o.v seem populated by idiotic, reality-disconnected zealots
I think that's the point. Is it really an anti-AA p.o.v person? I seriously doubt that.
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This is so gross. Pam edit out your personal info. The anti-A.A. harasser just makes his p.o.v seem populated by idiotic, reality-disconnected zealots
This guest and OP = same person
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For the first 3-5 years I NEEDED to go to 5 meetings a week and live in a sober living house with 12 other women. My brain has been engraved with all I learned from AA – whenever I am unsettled I go right back to all the things those people taught me. 13 years later, I still don’t make “big decisions” without the advice of my trusted advisors – you all know who you are. When there is chaos, I go back to the beginning and make gratitude lists…whatever works.
If Pam does not renounce AA, her address and phone number will be posted.
I will save everyone the trouble of waiting to find out if I will renounce AA, admit that I have had a drink last year, and have my address and phone number posted nevertheless.
Point 1 - No, I have NOT had a drink in 13+ years.
Point 2 - My phone & address is as follows:
121 Breeze Ave
Venice, CA 90291
310.392.8881
If you use Google Earth, you will see a HUGE Palm tree - that is my house! Have fun!!!
FYI...I have a compound with heavy security and closed circuit TV all around my property. I welcome any unwanted visitors to step one foot on my property and see what happens....LMAO!
:jerry:
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This is so gross. Pam edit out your personal info. The anti-A.A. harasser just makes his p.o.v seem populated by idiotic, reality-disconnected zealots
This guest and OP = same person
uH,...no. Psy, you can tell that person we are different people. You have my permission.
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Pam. Edit out your info now. Nobody needs to know it. i'm sorry you have to deal with this. this is unfortunetly the level of this forum...
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How do you know they weren't bluffing about having the address? its a pretty common troll around here.. Not that smart to reveal your address and phone number. wasps fanatics might be watching.
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How do you know they weren't bluffing about having the address? its a pretty common troll around here.. Not that smart to reveal your address and phone number. wasps fanatics might be watching.
So it is better to wait and see what an unstable person does/doesn't do regarding the release of my contact information? Spend time wondering will he or won't he? Not a chance!
Problem solved, I released it myself. Info is a matter of public records anyhow. :deal:
End of thread and end of threats!
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Pam,
Please edit it. I don't know who it is, but they really have no right. Your safety and anonymity is much more important. You and I both know that. Everyone who is anyone here knows that.
I Am Artsy
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I agree Pam, a random troll on fornits isnt going to show up on your door but WWASPies and the other turds that watch this site for information they can use against us have been known to do worse. and unfortunately they are smart enough not to just barrel through the gates, they could do some sneeky stuff like come in as pest exterminators and release poisonous gas into your house via your pipes from the outside that lead to your sinks. I think you made your point but we don't need you exterminated so please will you remove it?... for us???
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I agree Pam, a random troll on fornits isnt going to show up on your door but WWASPies and the other turds that watch this site for information they can use against us have been known to do worse. and unfortunately they are smart enough not to just barrel through the gates, they could do some sneeky stuff like come in as pest exterminators and release poisonous gas into your house via your pipes from the outside that lead to your sinks. I think you made your point but we don't need you exterminated so please will you remove it?... for us???
No.
And unless you have specific incidents of violence against people who have posted their own contact information in the past I'd really prefer you not stoop to fear mongering.
Pam, you are in no risk of being attacked by anyone. I applaud you for shutting up your little troll/survivor.
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I agree Pam, a random troll on fornits isnt going to show up on your door but WWASPies and the other turds that watch this site for information they can use against us have been known to do worse. and unfortunately they are smart enough not to just barrel through the gates, they could do some sneeky stuff like come in as pest exterminators and release poisonous gas into your house via your pipes from the outside that lead to your sinks. I think you made your point but we don't need you exterminated so please will you remove it?... for us???
No.
And unless you have specific incidents of violence against people who have posted their own contact information in the past I'd really prefer you not stoop to fear mongering.
Pam, you are in no risk of being attacked by anyone. I applaud you for shutting up your little troll/survivor.
Absolutely!
Paranoia is really one of the most powerful weapons in the programmies' arsenal. It doesn't take much effort or expense to foster, yet it is extremely effective at hindering those in whom it is successfully induced. I'm not saying that violence from programies is never a possibility, I mean, Synanon put venomous snakes in a reporters mailbox, but I think that the teen torture crowd wouldn't want that kind of negative publicity, and they probably aren't competent enough to successfully carry out some kind of shit like that. If they think that they can just shut you up through fear and by fueling paranoid fantasies, though, they certainly will attempt to do so. If they can silence you though intimidation, then the truth of what these places are about will go unknown by most people.
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It was a de-rattled rattlesnake (so you wouldn't hear it), and it was in an attorney's mailbox, from what I recall.
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I agree Pam, a random troll on fornits isnt going to show up on your door but WWASPies and the other turds that watch this site for information they can use against us have been known to do worse. and unfortunately they are smart enough not to just barrel through the gates, they could do some sneeky stuff like come in as pest exterminators and release poisonous gas into your house via your pipes from the outside that lead to your sinks. I think you made your point but we don't need you exterminated so please will you remove it?... for us???
No.
And unless you have specific incidents of violence against people who have posted their own contact information in the past I'd really prefer you not stoop to fear mongering.
Pam, you are in no risk of being attacked by anyone. I applaud you for shutting up your little troll/survivor.
Actually I HAVE heard of that exact type of incident happening, but of course it was not by WWASP it was by an unknown person or group that by the level of expertise used rumored to be a professional hit. I just dont think its too far out of the way for a group that consents to abusing and murdering children to hire out the murder of someone who may be responsible for furthering their bad reputation. It might be unlikely but not impossible and I made the point to only prove that there are ways that the security that she mentioned can be bypassed and she can still be hurt.
You can all said I'm paranoid or something that's fine, but I didn't say that to scare her I said that to counter balance her over confidence on the issue by explaining an exact way that her security, and her personal protection could fail her from attack. In order to make the point that the best way to ensure her safety is to avoid giving out personal information.
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Wasn't it easier just to out those we are talking about. A friend in their main-office sent me a phonelist:
ACADEMY AT IVY RIDGE - 5428 State Highway 37, Ogdensburg, NY 13669-9699
Jason Finlinson Ext 110 Cell: 315-778-8664 HM 315-393-6299 shelby@academyivyridge.com (http://mailto:shelby@academyivyridge.com)
Dave Gravlin - girls Ext 112 Cell: georgette@academyivyridge.com (http://mailto:georgette@academyivyridge.com)
Jake Finlinson Ext 126 Cell: 315-276-8133 www.carolinasprings.com (http://www.carolinasprings.com)
Elaine Davis Cell 864.314-2474 Director dgpennock@yahoo.com (http://mailto:dgpennock@yahoo.com) (Administration)
Denise Rhodes Ext. 223 Cell: 864.992.7774 www.crosscreekprograms.com (http://www.crosscreekprograms.com)
Karr Farnsworth 435-635-6003 Cell 435-229-5277 FAX 435-635-2331 kerryg@crosscreekprograms.com (http://mailto:kerryg@crosscreekprograms.com)
Beverly Nelson 435-635-6007 Cell 435-229-3479 Fax 435-635-2331 jeni@crosscreekprograms.com (http://mailto:jeni@crosscreekprograms.com)
Ron Garrett 435-229-6708
Riitta Nugent 435-635-6033 Cell 435-229-6706 www.darringtonacademy.com (http://www.darringtonacademy.com)
Dace Goulding Cell: 706.851.5560 Home: 706.946.8250 richdarrington@hotmail.com (http://mailto:richdarrington@hotmail.com)
Rennie Hallows Intake Approvals: 706-299-1420 www.horizonacademy.us (http://www.horizonacademy.us), Parents Only - www.horizonacademy.net (http://www.horizonacademy.net)
HORIZON ACADEMY - HCR 70 Box 531, Amargosa Valley, NV 89020
Jade Robinson Cell 702-219-4749 riley@horizonacademy.net (http://mailto:riley@horizonacademy.net)
Holly Akemon (FR Sup) Cell 859-200-9307 nancy@horizonacademy.net (http://mailto:nancy@horizonacademy.net)
Lana Academics Ext. 229 www.majesticranch.org (http://www.majesticranch.org) Email: www.midwestacademy.net (http://www.midwestacademy.net)
319-524-3560 or 319-524-3561, Fax 319-524-3591, Fax (Academics) 319-524-2761
Brian Viafanua Cell: 319-795-2014 ben@midwestacademy.net (http://mailto:ben@midwestacademy.net)
Jared Stewart Cell 319-795-2530 carla@midwestacademy.net (http://mailto:carla@midwestacademy.net)
PILLARS OF HOPE (INSTITUTO PILARES DE ESPERANZA)
(physical) 3 Km este de Fabrica Abopac, Ceiba-Cascajal de Orotina, Alajuela, Costa Rica, Cento America
011-506-428-4564 or 011-506-428-7000
Harold Dabel Cell 011-506-824-6424 or 864-993-4318 fbustosangel@yahoo.com (http://mailto:fbustosangel@yahoo.com) (Assistant Director)
Ron Del Aguila Cell 011-506-828-7017 (Operations Administrator)
Narvin Lichfield Cell 011-506-428-4629 or 801-389-6126 jus4rod@yahoo.com (http://mailto:jus4rod@yahoo.com) or www.redriveracademy.net (http://www.redriveracademy.net)
Brent Hall ext. 110, Cell 318-542-1766 dusky@redriveracademy.net (http://mailto:dusky@redriveracademy.net)
Alicia Hall (FR Sup) ext. 103, Cell 318-542-9359 nicole@redriveracdemy.net (http://mailto:nicole@redriveracdemy.net)
(Is the last one a relative to the other Gouldings?)
ROYAL GORGE ACADEMY - 615 Pike Ave., Cañon City, CO 81212
Office 719-275-1127 Fax 719-275-5431
Brian Lemons Cell 719-429-3317 huddleston@dixie.edu (http://mailto:huddleston@dixie.edu)
(The now closed Royal Gorge was not a part of WWASP, so why are they on the phonelist. Why did the student get transported to Red River when they closed down if they are not a part of WWASP)
SKY VIEW ACADEMY - Number 10, 21st Street, P.O. Box 1627, Hawthorne, NV 89415
Orval Hagerman Cell 406-546-7202 jaredc@skyviewacademy.com (http://mailto:jaredc@skyviewacademy.com)
(The authorities in Nevada closed them down. We have a person in the local neighborhood watching the campus when he returns from Iraq)
SPRING CREEK LODGE - 76 Spring Creek Road, Thompson Falls, MT 59873 www.springcreeklodge.com (http://www.springcreeklodge.com)
Cameron Pullan Cell 406-544-5262, Hm 406-827-9144, chaffin@blueslide.com (http://mailto:chaffin@blueslide.com)
Mike Chism Program Manager: Cell 406-827-2065, Hm 406--827-3897, patty@blueslide.com (http://mailto:patty@blueslide.com)
Current Parents: www.blueslide.com (http://www.blueslide.com) (clarkfork/rainbowtrout)
Admissions: 888-633-2697 www.sclinfo.com (http://www.sclinfo.com)
TRANQUILITY BAY - c/o Olde' Wharf Resort, St. Elizabeth Parish, Calabash Bay, P.A. Jamaica, WI
876-965-0003 Fax 876-965-3471 www.tranquilitybay.org (http://www.tranquilitybay.org)
Mail to student: P.O. Box 1020, Junction P.O., St. Elizabeth Parish, Jamaica, West Indies
Name c/o Tranquility Bay (Family Rep and ID code on bottom)
Jay Kay Office/Fax 876-965-3262 cell 876-402-7211 academics@tranquility.org (http://mailto:academics@tranquility.org)
Communication Specialist: Lisa
BENCHMARK MATERNITY HHOME - Woodland Hills, Utah
P.O. Box 404 Salem, UT 84653-0404 benchmarkmaternityhome.com
Darrell Lewis Cell 435-229-8556 435-635-5212 Fax 435-635-2674 djbdsbp7@yahoo.com
I find it very interesting that Royal Gorges info is on this phonelist from 2007 when they at no point has been a member of WWASP - in the public. Spring Creek and AIR is also on regardless of the fact that they official have left WWASP.
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Maybe Royal Gorge was a test to modernize their original program, because they know that money are few among the population, so they have to make their programs cheaper.
Less locations for seminars, graduation on Campus etc.
I have not lived on campus and it would also be hard to find anyone who have tried both systems, so we dont know whether it was less strict at Royal Gorge compared to the other programs.
Just a thought.
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Well shit. Now that somebody has posted part of the list, I might as well throw a few more out there:
DAVID GILCREASE Cell 668-4901 roger@dmbc.com (http://mailto:roger@dmbc.com) or ken@infowest.com (http://mailto:ken@infowest.com)
Have fun!
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SCLA is WWASP. Their most recent enrollment contract states Teen Help as the billing:
Revised 10/21/08 Spring Creek Lodge must receive the following:
1. A copy of this entire Agreement – signed and completed.
2. Check covering the first month’s tuition and processing fee. Make check payable to
Spring Creek Lodge for the following amount:
12 Month Option: $5,995.00
Please send to: Teen Help
P.O. BOX 3109
St. George, UT 84771
FAX: 435-674-4830
Signature
This sheet needs to be signed and returned with the enrollment agreement.
Revised 10/21/08
So are the others. They never stopped being WWASP schools.
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A few more for fun:
BOB LICHFIELD 635-5949 / Cell 313-5949/680-2261or 2262 / 635-4675 / HM FAX 635-7578/632-5315
bl@dmbc.com
Other office 435-635-9198 Ext. 606, 50 South Main St. Ste. E, La Verkin, UT 84745
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how does WWASP like it, now? huh? Think it's funny to threaten to out critics? Well ha fucking ha!
Go ahead. Poke the hornets nest with a stick. I fucking dare ya.
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MOAR!
Revised 4/24/2007
KEN KAY EXT 101 Cell 435-703-5981 Direct Fax: 435-656-1899 admin@parentbbs.com (http://mailto:admin@parentbbs.com) Misc. - photos@parentsupportservices.com (http://mailto:photos@parentsupportservices.com)
JENNIFER NAY Cell 435-619-4482 PSN Info - jennpss@infowest.com (http://mailto:jennpss@infowest.com)
BRENDA WAGNER Cell 435-668-2241 info@browningacademy.org (http://mailto:info@browningacademy.org) Transcripts/ Admin andreamgardner@hotmail.com (http://mailto:andreamgardner@hotmail.com)
BRENDA WAGNER Cell 435-668-2241 bl@dmbc.com (http://mailto:bl@dmbc.com)
Other office 435-635-9198 Ext. 606, 50 South Main St. Ste. E, La Verkin, UT 84745
BRENT FACER 634-0399 / Cell 632-9400 / HM FAX 634-8315 / HM.949-497-9437 HM 628-8238
wendy@bmfinvestments.com (http://mailto:wendy@bmfinvestments.com)
RALPH ATKIN 673-7603 / Office 656-5300 / FAX 656-0809
BOB'S OFFICE 635-0399 or 435-635-9198 Ext 606
MARCEL CHAPPUIS, PhD 261-4771 / Cell 560-5863 / FAX 261-4778 - Clinical Psychologist
LEROY ANDERSON, M.D. 435-635-0600
ROB LICHFIELD EXT 101 Hm 656-5189 Cell 619-4450 derrick@optimumbillingservices.com (http://mailto:derrick@optimumbillingservices.com)
DEBRA JOHNSON EXT 105
SINDEE BENSON EXT 104
LATESA JENKINS EXT 103
MASON GARDNER EXT 106 Cell 619-5352 blaine@companysupport.net (http://mailto:blaine@companysupport.net)
NICHELLE LEITNER EXT 109 Cell 435-862-9041 www.specialtyboardingschools.com (http://www.specialtyboardingschools.com)
JEAN FOYE EXT 115 / FAX 656-2497/HM 688-7606/Cell 680-5326 timw@teenhelp.us (http://mailto:timw@teenhelp.us)
NANCY THOMPSON EXT 112 / HM 635-3650 / Cell 668-0442 glendac@teenhelp.us (http://mailto:glendac@teenhelp.us)
RACHEL VICKERS EXT 105 / HM 644-8602 / Cell 435-899-9907 troyt@teenhelp.us (http://mailto:troyt@teenhelp.us)
MARK PETERSON EXT 121 / Cell 669-0131 donnab@teenhelp.us (http://mailto:donnab@teenhelp.us)
HEATHER GROSSMAN Cell 327-1116
50 South State St., La Verkin, UT 84745 ken@infowest.com (http://mailto:ken@infowest.com)
MISC. CLINICAL PERSONNEL
OPTIMUM BILLING SERVICES, LLC Office: 435-635-2390 Fax: 435-635-2778
CONSULTANTS Office: 435-652-3959 (APC)
BBS - ubb.parentbbs.com
321 North Mall Dr. Suite T101, St. George, UT 84790 Office 435-688-2973 Fax 435-656-0529
321 North Mall Dr., Suite T101, St. George, UT 84790 Office: 435-656-2612 Fax: 435-656-0529
PARENT SUPPORT NEWS/CENSUS Office: 435-656-5824 Fax: 435-656-0529
BROWNING DISTANCE LEARNING ACADEMY - www.browningacademy.org (http://www.browningacademy.org)
321 North Mall Dr., Suite T101, St. George, UT 84790 www.parentsupportservices.com (http://www.parentsupportservices.com)
ENID BROWN Cell 435-632-0432 Fax: 435-986-0515 dlee@infowest.com (http://mailto:dlee@infowest.com)
THOMAS FILIPE Cell 435-668-3718
DAISY PRITCHARD Cell 435-668-8149 lisa@helpmyteen.com (http://mailto:lisa@helpmyteen.com)
MONICA BRACKEN EXT. 102 / CELL 229-0988 andra@helpmyteen.com (http://mailto:andra@helpmyteen.com)
SHAUNTEL CAMPBELL EXT. 105 / CELL 703-490-1451 / jaystucki@hotmail.com (http://mailto:jaystucki@hotmail.com)
RUSS BUNDY EXT. 106 / CELL 435-257-7181 dd@teensoulutions.com (http://mailto:dd@teensoulutions.com)
NURIS VASQUEZ EXT 110 / CELL 917-561-5156 nicole@teensoulutions.com (http://mailto:nicole@teensoulutions.com)
MICHELLE LAMOREAUX EXT 100 / CELL 435-862-6222 emily@teensoulutions.com (http://mailto:emily@teensoulutions.com)
JAKE PEART EXT 403 CELL 435-701-0003 jamik24@2helpteens.com (http://mailto:jamik24@2helpteens.com)
LAUREL WILSON EXT 407 CELL 435-467-0421 kirkandlarene@2helpteens.com (http://mailto:kirkandlarene@2helpteens.com)
KERI STEGLICH EXT 402 CELL 435-773-3620 liebner559@gmail.com (http://mailto:liebner559@gmail.com)
WENDI TULLIS EXT 405 CELL 435-691-1601 castlecreek79@hotmail.com (http://mailto:castlecreek79@hotmail.com)
LEZLEE SHAW EXT 101 / CELL 435-669-2689 or 435-229-6915 paula@parenthotline.net (http://mailto:paula@parenthotline.net)
AFFILIATE REFERRAL PROGRAM: 435-635-9089 FAX 435-635-9203
MICHELE MAGLIOCCO CELL 435-313-6192 jeni@crosscreekprograms.com (http://mailto:jeni@crosscreekprograms.com)
KAMI FARNSWORTH HM. 801-467-4172/CELL 435-229-6701/FAX 801-486-8163 kara@crosscreekprograms.com (http://mailto:kara@crosscreekprograms.com)
IRENE LEBEDIES CELL 435-229-6703 nicole@crosscreekprograms.com (http://mailto:nicole@crosscreekprograms.com)
DEBRA HERZOG CELL 435-229-1337 FAX 435-652-1482 beverly@crosscreekprograms.com (http://mailto:beverly@crosscreekprograms.com)
RIITTA NUGENT OFFICE 635-6033 / CELL 229-6706 kerryg@crosscreekprograms.com (http://mailto:kerryg@crosscreekprograms.com)
KARR FARNSWORTH OFFICE 635-6003 / CELL 229-5277 parentresources@infowest.com (http://mailto:parentresources@infowest.com)
HELP MY TEEN Office: 435-986-9611 or 986-9613 or 800-247-1696 Fax: 435-656-4769
2840 Cottonwood Circle - P. O. Box 399, Santa Clara, UT 84765
TEENS IN CRISIS North Office: 1-800-250-3966 or 888-248-7472 or 435-752-9558 Fax: 435-752-9558
1645 East 1220 North, Logan, UT 84341
TEEN SOULUTIONS Office 435-688-2960 or 800-429-6099 Fax: 435-688-7142
REGAL/PARENT HOTLINE Office: 435- 635-7333 1-800-840-6537 Fax: 435-635-9203
50 S. State St., Suite D, La Verkin, UT 84745
1722 North 280 East, Suite U-1, St. George, UT 84790
CROSS CREEK ADMISSIONS Office: 1-800-818-6228 Fax: 435-635-2331
P.O. Box 199, Donalds, SC 29638 www.meridanfamilyservices.com (http://www.meridanfamilyservices.com)
REX VAUGHN CELL 801-230-7000 www.teenlifelines.com (http://www.teenlifelines.com)
JANE HAWLEY EXT 104 CELL 435-229-1255 bob@lifelinehelp.com (http://mailto:bob@lifelinehelp.com)
KATHY ALLRED EXT 105 CELL 435-862-8090 chuck@lifelinehelp.com (http://mailto:chuck@lifelinehelp.com)
JOHN BRINDLEY EXT 106 CELL 435-862-4705 dar@lifelinehelp.com (http://mailto:dar@lifelinehelp.com)
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Apparently I was not the only one "outted" lol
Such is life...glad to see this thread actually ended with some purpose!
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You outed YOURSELF because you're stupid... but hey, you are a program parent so that's a given. :twofinger:
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You outed YOURSELF because you're stupid... but hey, you are a program parent so that's a given. :twofinger:
Blah, blah, blah....and I should care what you think??? Blah blah blah
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Point 2 - My phone & address is as follows:
You snooze..you lose! Address removed at request of other members of this forum
a guest had already quoted you before you deleted it.
For the first 3-5 years I NEEDED to go to 5 meetings a week and live in a sober living house with 12 other women. My brain has been engraved with all I learned from AA – whenever I am unsettled I go right back to all the things those people taught me. 13 years later, I still don’t make “big decisions” without the advice of my trusted advisors – you all know who you are. When there is chaos, I go back to the beginning and make gratitude lists…whatever works.
If Pam does not renounce AA, her address and phone number will be posted.
I will save everyone the trouble of waiting to find out if I will renounce AA, admit that I have had a drink last year, and have my address and phone number posted nevertheless.
Point 1 - No, I have NOT had a drink in 13+ years.
Point 2 - My phone & address is as follows:
121 Breeze Ave
Venice, CA 90291
310.392.8881
If you use Google Earth, you will see a HUGE Palm tree - that is my house! Have fun!!!
FYI...I have a compound with heavy security and closed circuit TV all around my property. I welcome any unwanted visitors to step one foot on my property and see what happens....LMAO!
:jerry:
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I am fully aware that I was quoted and my contact info was still available in this thread...along with HUNDREDS of other WWASP employees and/owners. As I said earlier, I am not easily intimidated, nor do I not succumb to threats. Which is EXACTLY why "I" posted my info as soon as I saw the thread. My information is matter of public record and is listed in the WHOIS information for my domain names.
I guess you have NOTHING better to do with your time :feedtrolls:
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I DON'T understand the grevience this poster has with Pam. Its truly terrible to behold.
5 bucks its KathyS
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This is really getting creepier everyday. What is this person's obsession with Pam and her life? I looked and she only joined up in November. Do people here just hate any parent?
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Do people here just hate any parent?
That's the case with some, yes.
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bah just ignore em. They feed on your reactions and when you don't give them any they should just move on.
Honestly this thread and threads like these shouldnt even be commented on.
Maybe we can take this as a lesson and make a clear agreement not to engage these trolls because they only do this for the shock factor and if we don't give them any reactions they wont feel fulfilled by bullying people on a forum and possibly be forced to go get a real life.
But good job on the WWASP contact info, but the question is what shall we do with information? I am not in support of a raid or any childish behavior using these phone numbers, but I do think we can in one way or another use them to make a statement. I'm actually in support of a full fledged investigation of why the WWASP programs have been shut down and I think each and every one of these people should be called for comment on these events as well as the numerous allegations of abuse against WWASP.
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:feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: :feedtrolls: !!!
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Honestly this thread and threads like these shouldnt even be commented on.
Hear, hear! :notworthy:
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Honestly this thread and threads like these shouldnt even be commented on.
Hear, hear! :notworthy:
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I agree with this! That's why I'm going to comment and bump this thread. God you people are so stupid. Femanon making a paragraph long post about WHY WE SOULDN"T BUMP THIS THREAD? HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE? If you dont want to bump it, dont bump it or even tell others not to do it right after you do it!!
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Honestly this thread and threads like these shouldnt even be commented on.
Hear, hear! :notworthy:
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I agree with this! That's why I'm going to comment and bump this thread. God you people are so stupid. Femanon making a paragraph long post about WHY WE SOULDN"T BUMP THIS THREAD? HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE? If you dont want to bump it, dont bump it or even tell others not to do it right after you do it!!
But then how will they maintain the feeling and continue to demonstrate their superiority over the rest of us??
:beat: :twofinger:
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But then how will they maintain the feeling and continue to demonstrate their superiority over the rest of us??
:beat: :twofinger:
Well, thing is, they ARE superior to the rest of you.... :sue: :bs: :roflmao: :rasta:
BUMP!! :twofinger:
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God you people are so stupid.
::)
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If Pam does not renounce AA, her address and phone number will be posted.
This thread is great! It shows that the OP isn't screwing around! Renounce your ideals or youe info is posted....BAAAAMMM!!Gotta love it!!
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The mods should just delete this entire thread.
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If Pam does not renounce AA, her address and phone number will be posted.
This thread is great! It shows that the OP isn't screwing around! Renounce your ideals or youe info is posted....BAAAAMMM!!Gotta love it!!
Damn right, how DARE she have an opinion of her own!
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The mods should just delete this entire thread.
Do you not have the ability to skip over threads that you find uninteresting?
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IF THIS THREAD IS NOT DELETED I AM GOING TO BOYCOTT FORNITS!
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But then how will they maintain the feeling and continue to demonstrate their superiority over the rest of us??
:beat: :twofinger:
Well, thing is, they ARE superior to the rest of you.... :sue: :bs: :roflmao: :rasta:
BUMP!! :twofinger:
Yeah, but they won't be able to make everyone else see HOW superior if we don't present them with these opportunities. How empty would their lives be then?
:soapbox: :beat: ::) ::) ::)
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If Pam does not renounce AA, her address and phone number will be posted.
This thread is great! It shows that the OP isn't screwing around! Renounce your ideals or youe info is posted....BAAAAMMM!!Gotta love it!!
Damn right, how DARE she have an opinion of her own!
How DARE anyone make a joke!!!
::) ::) :twofinger: :twofinger:
Don't be so fucking literal. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
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How DARE anyone make a joke!!!
::) ::) :twofinger: :twofinger:
Don't be so fucking literal. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
The 'joke' is in your hand (when you pee).
If you're a female, then you'll have to dig a little deeper.
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Do you not have the ability to skip over threads that you find uninteresting?
Do you not have the ability to eat steaming hot platefuls of dogshit for Miller Newton? I suggest you do so immediately.
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How DARE anyone make a joke!!!
::) ::) :twofinger: :twofinger:
Don't be so fucking literal. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
The 'joke' is in your hand (when you pee).
If you're a female, then you'll have to dig a little deeper.
Wow, how clever and witty you are.
::)
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Do you not have the ability to skip over threads that you find uninteresting?
Do you not have the ability to eat steaming hot platefuls of dogshit for Miller Newton? I suggest you do so immediately.
What the fuck does that have to do with you being so goddamned retarded as to read threads that you readily admit are boring and wasteful?
:deal: :roflmao: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :wall: :wall: :rasta: :roflmao:
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Do you not have the ability to skip over threads that you find uninteresting?
Do you not have the ability to eat steaming hot platefuls of dogshit for Miller Newton? I suggest you do so immediately.
What the fuck does that have to do with you being so goddamned retarded as to read threads that you readily admit are boring and wasteful?
:deal: :roflmao: :twofinger: :twofinger: :twofinger: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :wall: :wall: :rasta: :roflmao:
Hmm, I can see this is getting to you.
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How DARE anyone make a joke!!!
::) ::) :twofinger: :twofinger:
Don't be so fucking literal. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
The 'joke' is in your hand (when you pee).
If you're a female, then you'll have to dig a little deeper.
Wow, how clever and witty you are.
::)
Yes, I can see this is getting to you.
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What the fuck does that have to do with you being so goddamned retarded as to read threads that you readily admit are boring and wasteful?
Nunya, you raging cretin.
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What the fuck does that have to do with you being so goddamned retarded as to read threads that you readily admit are boring and wasteful?
Nunya, you raging cretin.
Re: you are too nosy, and too wordy
Yes, I understand that big words might confuse you. I'll try to dumb it down a bit for you from now on.
:beat:
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Yes, I understand that big words might confuse you. I'll try to dumb it down a bit for you from now on.
Try using less. Sometimes one word expresses what it takes several words to express.
Also, you tend to throw in too many superfluous adverbs like "readily."
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Try using less. Sometimes one word expresses what it takes several words to express.
Also, you tend to throw in too many superfluous adverbs like "readily."
You tend to spend too much time in your mom's basement. Try and get out amongst the regular folk every now and again.
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::) You need serious help.
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WOW, it looks like there are some real loons on this site!
Guess that goes to show how programs will mess a person up!!
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WOW, it looks like there are some real loons on this site!
Guess that goes to show how programs will mess a person up!!
True, it seems it doesn't take much to get certain people on here whipped into a frenzy! Better get out the white coats and hypodermics, this looks like it could get ugly... :roflmao:
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WOW, it looks like there are some real loons on this site!
Guess that goes to show how programs will mess a person up!!
I CAN SEE THIS IS GETTING TO YOU!!!
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This is proof that all posters on fornits are all retarded. I am here to inform you all how retarded you all are. It counts towards my community service.
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WOW, it looks like there are some real loons on this site!
Guess that goes to show how programs will mess a person up!!
True, it seems it doesn't take much to get certain people on here whipped into a frenzy! Better get out the white coats and hypodermics, this looks like it could get ugly... :roflmao:
I don't feel satisfied until I help whip the crazy posters into a frenzy. It makes me feel superior, like I am a herder taking care of my retarded flock. All you have to do is ask them if this is getting to you, and they go completely mad. It's fun, and it's cheaper than other hobbies.
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All you have to do is ask them if this is getting to you, and they go completely mad.
Evidently! :rofl: :clown: :roflmao:
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OMG THIS IS THE BEST DAY OF MY LIFE!
Then I must repeat myself.......
You tend to spend too much time in your mom's basement. Try and get out amongst the regular folk every now and again.
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So how many people called up the Wasp big shots and gave them a piece of their mind? I'm going to guess that nobody did. After all this time you are still afraid of the program, how pathetic is that?
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So how many people called up the Wasp big shots and gave them a piece of their mind? I'm going to guess that nobody did. After all this time you are still afraid of the program, how pathetic is that?
*raising my hand*
I did! I had a blast calling everyone at 4am to say Hi and tell them what I thought of them. Had a nice long conversation with Rick Darrington after waking him up. Dace Goulding's wife called me back to tell me what a bitch I was...lol
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Me too!! Me too!!! Well, not WWASPS but I wasn't in a WWASPS program. I've called ole Virgil/Miller/Cassian or whatever the fuck he's calling himself these days a couple of times though. Been to his house and screamed at him even more. It actually was one of the most healing things I ever did.
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Me too!! Me too!!! Well, not WWASPS but I wasn't in a WWASPS program. I've called ole Virgil/Miller/Cassian or whatever the fuck he's calling himself these days a couple of times though. Been to his house and screamed at him even more. It actually was one of the most healing things I ever did.
You got a bookmark to that thread where you and RTP visited him in church?
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Nah, lemme see if I can find it. Can't remember some of the key words right now. Hang on tho....it'll come to me. A fantastic time was had by all!!!!
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Found it!
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15507 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15507)
Hey everybody! Thought I'd tell ya about what I did the other night........
"I just" happened to be in St. Petersburg the other night (Thursday) and decided to drop by Miller Newton's playhouse with another Straight survivor (name withheld by request). As I walked toward the sanctuary, I could hear the chanting of the zombified Newtonites as they repeated "Have mercy on us O Lord". The door to the sanctuary was open, and standing by the door, dressed in his priest costume, was Dr. Dr. Rev. V. Miller "Fr. Cassian" Newton, his back turned to me.
"You sorry sack of shit! You disgusting fuckhead masquerading as a priest! You make me sick!" I yelled, immediately silencing the chanted prayer.
"This is private property, get off of this property!" said the disgusting and vile pretend-priest, his face turning the classic beet red shade so familiar to those of us who endured his psychotic antics as "Clinical Director" of Straight, Inc.
I turned to leave, after loudly referring to him as one who engages in sexual intercourse with his closest female ancestor, and he called out, demanding "Who are you?!!!!"
"One of many, shithead, one of many!" came my reply. "Have you abused any kids today, you sorry sack of shit?" I asked as I turned around to face him once I had reached the street and was no longer on his property. I noticed Ruth Ann Newton and two of his zombies were following him onto the lawn of the "church". Ruth Ann gave off a distinct aroma of dog shit, and I said to her "He's a fucking child abuser, Ruthie. How does it feel to be married to someone who abuses children?
I've seen him beat up malnourished teenage girls, it was very impressive, you must be proud!", to which she replied indignantly "Don't you call me by my first name!".
"Fuck you, Ruthie, you sorry herp-infested cunt, I'll call you whatever the fuck I want to! Hey Virgil, do you pray for the kids you helped drive to suicide?"
Virgil spoke, "I've seen that list on the internet and at least five of those alleged suicides are alive...."
"Well what about the other two hundred, fuckface?
How much money is it so far? Ten million five and counting? Oh yeah, look out for some registered mail from NJ, you'll be in court again soon, asshole."
"WE didn't pay that, it was the insurance compay that paid it", said Ruth Ann, as if being a policyholder somehow absolves them of their guilt and complicity in the abuse of children as part of their sick and demented scheme to satisfy their insanely perverse needs for power.
"So how is the bankruptcy fraud going these days, Miller? This place will look really nice once your creditors that you tried to defraud open a bar here."
The other Straight survivor asked them why they abused children, they said "Nobody was abused at Straight".
"Court decisions say otherwise, I've seen the transcripts...."
"Those transcripts are false, the ones you saw on the internet....."
"Fuck you, you goddamn liar, I want you to get honest, I saw a video of you lying in court, you are a serial child abuser, you abused thousands of children for fun and profit!"
"I didn't abuse anyone" said the lying sack of shit, Miller Newton.
"You're in denial, Virgil, you owe me amends for the shit you did......"
The other Straight survivor asked Ruthie about her practice of telling victims of abuse that they needed to "see where they caused it, how they were at fault", which Ruthie denied.
"You said that to me, Ruth Ann, you said that to me. Why? Why?" she demanded.
Ruth Ann again continued lying, saying she had never done that, the other Straight survivor called her a lying cunt.
Virgil piped in "Why do you think your parents put you in a program?"
"Don't try to weasel your way out, you lying cocksucker, you are a fucking child abuser, you sorry sack of shit. And you Ruthie, you fuck that piece of shit, you disgusting twat".
As this exchange was taking place, one of Virgil's zombies, the female of the pair that had accompanied him outside, got on her cell phone to call the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office. I also noticed several of his neighbors looking out from their balconies, one of whom gave me a "thumb's up".
As the sheriff's deputy drove up, Virgil tried to be his "take charge" self, to which the cop replied, "You do your job and let me do mine", after which he questioned Virgil as to what happened, having already asked me what was going on.
Virgil went off about how I "disrupted a worship service, and many of these people had nothing to do with the program he's talking about". Then I heard him give some happy news: "I have had heart surgery, and I have high blood pressure".
NOW HERE'S THE KICKER: He then said, "I DON'T NEED THIS EMOTIONAL ABUSE". Oh, the irony! The old shithead can dish it out, but he can't take it? Is that it?
He also claimed, ridiculously, that "for every one of you malcontents that come here, we get ten or fifteen each week that thank us for saving their lives, we've had thousands of people thank us." Yeah, I believe that.....
The deputy sheriff called me over to where he was standing, and had Virgil tell me that his "church" was private property, and I was not to trespass there again. I said "Great! I'll see ya in court, then I'll see ya in Hell, fuckface!"
All in all, a very pleasant evening.........
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There needs to be more of that kinds of thing. It's very therapeutic, and it gives the programmie in question a tiny taste of the kind of public humiliation that is dished out in program. BTW, who do you think should be the next Zombie?
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26799 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=26799)
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By doing these things you are only humiliating yourself. If you weren't blinded by fornits group think you might see that.
"Hey look at me! I'm a crazy person and I can crank call people and brag about it on fornits!"
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Been to his house and screamed at him even more.
You are proud to be a raving lunatic and stalker?
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So how many people called up the Wasp big shots and gave them a piece of their mind? I'm going to guess that nobody did. After all this time you are still afraid of the program, how pathetic is that?
*raising my hand*
I did! I had a blast calling everyone at 4am to say Hi and tell them what I thought of them. Had a nice long conversation with Rick Darrington after waking him up. Dace Goulding's wife called me back to tell me what a bitch I was...lol
that's fantastic
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So how many people called up the Wasp big shots and gave them a piece of their mind? I'm going to guess that nobody did. After all this time you are still afraid of the program, how pathetic is that?
*raising my hand*
I did! I had a blast calling everyone at 4am to say Hi and tell them what I thought of them. Had a nice long conversation with Rick Darrington after waking him up. Dace Goulding's wife called me back to tell me what a bitch I was...lol
that's fantastic
Come on now....you are kidding right?
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no, i am serious it is great you called them
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By doing these things you are only humiliating yourself. If you weren't blinded by fornits group think you might see that.
"Hey look at me! I'm a crazy person and I can crank call people and brag about it on fornits!"
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You are proud to be a raving lunatic and stalker?
Oh please. I didn't prank call anyone. I called to ask how he felt about all the shit he did to all of us. I went to his house to ask the same thing and to protest, along with his neighbors I might add, his use of a residential property as as his bullshit church. He doesn't like to be questioned so he called the police.
What this man and his wife have done to thousands of kids truly is nothing short of torture. Anyone who was there during his tenure as director knows exactly what I'm talking about. And I'm not talking about just the emotional and mental torture. I'm talking about the beatings, the starvation, the sleep and sensory deprivation, denial of use of the bathroom to the point where people soil themselves or are forced to sit for days in urine, feces and menstrual blood soaked pants. This fucker continues to try and "treat" people under the guise of his "priesthood". I don't want him to be able to hurt anyone else the way he hurt me and countless others so I make sure that whenever he comes up with a new scheme to be able to "treat" people, especially kids...which he is doing right now....I'm gonna speak up. If that means that I make a fool out of myself to some random person on the internet, or anyone else for that matter, so be it. I really don't give a shit. Although the responses I've gotten from his neighbors, who are really the only people that saw anything, was complete support. They can't stand the guy either for their own reasons. He's a total dick, arrogant as hell, thinks he can do as he pleases and the laws don't apply to him. Just like he did as director of Straight. He thinks he has a 'higher calling' and shouldn't have to play by the rules and he gets VERY angry when he's told otherwise. ::)
And I've said before that it was one of the most healing things I've ever done. All those years of being beaten down and not being able to say a fucking word about it. All the years of silent suffering, panic attacks, insomnia, shoulder injuries from motivating, back injuries from those fucking chairs.....it felt damn good to be able to look that motherfucker in the eye and tell him that what he did was wrong. To throw out names of kids who've committed suicide because they couldn't speak up and couldn't take it anymore. To tell him that despite his best efforts, he didn't break me. After that night I didn't feel like the scared little girl that I had for all those years. I knew I had control of my life back and it really helped me put a good deal of it to bed.
So, think what you want. I did it for my own reasons and I couldn't be happier with my decision. And I'll keep calling him. I'd still like an answer to my questions. I know I'll never get them, but he won't ever be able to bury what he did either, will he now?
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He's a total dick, arrogant as hell, thinks he can do as he pleases and the laws don't apply to him. Just like he did as director of Straight. He thinks he has a 'higher calling' and shouldn't have to play by the rules and he gets VERY angry when he's told otherwise. ::)
But you are going to teach him different right? That's very arrogant and program like of you. There are many arrogant 'dicks' in the world, I know my fair share. But somehow I manage to restrain myself from becoming a raving lunatic on their doorstep. Not because it wouldn't feel good to let loose, but because I am not completely batshit insane as you are. That's the main difference between sanity and you, self restraint and the ability to step back and look at the big picture. Good luck in your continuing search for sanity. I hope you find it some day soon.
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But you are going to teach him different right? That's very arrogant and program like of you. There are many arrogant 'dicks' in the world, I know my fair share. But somehow I manage to restrain myself from becoming a raving lunatic on their doorstep. Not because it wouldn't feel good to let loose, but because I am not completely batshit insane as you are. That's the main difference between sanity and you, self restraint and the ability to step back and look at the big picture. Good luck in your continuing search for sanity. I hope you find it some day soon.
Christ, talk about arrogant. ::) You sure you're not related to him?
No, I'm going to regain some of my sanity by facing him and telling him that what he did was wrong. I hold no illusions of him ever "seeing the light". He won't. Ever. But I did and for my own sense of control over my life, I needed to see him face to face. Back a few years ago he was trying to open an adolescent psychology practice but was told he would be required to work "under the supervision" of another licensed psychologist because some other survivors made people aware of his past. We all know he's not going to be under ANYone's supervision, so he decided to give it up. Cool! He couldn't stand to not have a following, so he then decided to become a "priest" so he could "counsel" children yet again. I may not be able to completely stop it but I also couldn't just sit there and not say anything.
This obviously isn't the way that you would have handled things. That's fine but it worked for me. Beautifully. And it did prevent at least a few kids from having to live under his rule so all in all, I'm a happy girl. Being batshit crazy isn't all bad ya know. :seg: