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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Hyde Schools => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 04, 2009, 01:04:28 AM
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How come that guy isnt on date line?
Oh thats right the school covered up the fact that he had a 16 year old female student suck his dick. They also covered up how he showed that girl a picture of his family right after and said she would ruin his family if she told any one. Classic
I had an FLC with that girl. Conviently Jeff Burroghs was the faciltator. Obviously this girl was traumatized by this incident but when she brought up the subject to hopfully recover from her trauma jeff said "We are not going to discuss this!" Other than that he said nothing that whole weekend. I feel bad for that girl its not her fault and the people she thought she could trust made her keep it a secret.
Earl still lives in the area with nothing on his record many students have seen him around town. I guess chris hanson cant get em all.
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sick institutionalized sexual abuse
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I bet he knows all about reaching for the...destiny of one's deepest potential.
Get nice and personal with some PRIVATE LESSONS WITH EARL:
(http://http://home.gwi.net/~familyat1490/earl-with-guitar-150w.jpg)
"I help students reach their goals."
http://home.gwi.net/~familyat1490/private_lessons.htm (http://home.gwi.net/~familyat1490/private_lessons.htm)
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How come that guy isnt on date line?
Oh thats right the school covered up the fact that he had a 16 year old female student suck his dick. They also covered up how he showed that girl a picture of his family right after and said she would ruin his family if she told any one. Classic
I had an FLC with that girl. Conviently Jeff Burroghs was the faciltator. Obviously this girl was traumatized by this incident but when she brought up the subject to hopfully recover from her trauma jeff said "We are not going to discuss this!" Other than that he said nothing that whole weekend. I feel bad for that girl its not her fault and the people she thought she could trust made her keep it a secret.
Earl still lives in the area with nothing on his record many students have seen him around town. I guess chris hanson cant get em all.
OK< THIS IS JUST PLAIN SICK AND WRONG!!! Which campus did this happen on and what year was this? You are right that Hyde consistantly covers up the bad and illegal behavior of their staff and it is about time someone did something about this. Do you think the parents might have pursued this or taken any action? I remember Dubinsky got away with it for years on the Woodstock campus until one of the Mothers pushed with the legal system to force Hyde to get rid of him. He still remains on campus even though he does not teach. He still goes after his prey. Does anyone else know about this Earl Bigolow incident or this poor girl who was forced to relive it everyday she remained at Hyde?
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Is this part of the same situation that was described as having occurred in 2004 (http://http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=13623&p=300872#p300872), or yet another incident involving Earl Bigelow?
What is wrong with Hyde faculty that they can't keep their pants zipped, for crying out loud?!
Btw, Earl Bigelow was reportedly still teaching at Hyde School-Bath at least as late as May, 2005.
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yeah that happend in 2004 i remember we had a school meeting about it. so fucked up
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yeah that happend in 2004 i remember we had a school meeting about it. so fucked up
what R the chances the real deal was laid down? i say zero
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This is so f'd up- what she said happened didn't happen, she's unbalanced, she lied and had a history of doing the same thing to other profs. you should get your facts straight and stop persecuting innocent people - the reason he's still walking around town is b/c HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HER
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This is so f'd up- what she said happened didn't happen, she's unbalanced, she lied and had a history of doing the same thing to other profs. you should get your facts straight and stop persecuting innocent people - the reason he's still walking around town is b/c HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HER
really not much of a defense there Bud. She had a history and Hyde let her be alone with male staff. That is in fact worse. Instead of the failure of an individual to do the right thing, you have a systematic institutional failure. Keep digging that pit boy.
"I regret that I have but one life"
Nathan Hale Bopp
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This is so f'd up- what she said happened didn't happen, she's unbalanced, she lied and had a history of doing the same thing to other profs. you should get your facts straight and stop persecuting innocent people - the reason he's still walking around town is b/c HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HER
if she lied then why would he have to leave? your not making sense bubs. your just blindly defending hyde.
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had a history of doing the same thing to other profs.
:blabla: :rofl: :rofl:
"profs"?
some of them dont even have their BAs yet
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This is so f'd up- what she said happened didn't happen, she's unbalanced, she lied and had a history of doing the same thing to other profs. you should get your facts straight and stop persecuting innocent people - the reason he's still walking around town is b/c HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HER
Let us list the reasons enumerated:
- "what she said happened didn't happen"
- "she's unbalanced"
- "she lied"
- she "had a history of doing the same thing to other profs"
- "HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HER"
Some of these reasons would appear to be potentially contradictory. If you are, indeed, Earl Bigelow, a more detailed explanation might be in order.
If you are a friend of Earl's, or a member of the Hyde community, you might want to bear in mind that this is a standard roster of reasons that Hyde uses to discredit and belittle the credibility of victims of sexual transgressions that have taken place at Hyde School.
While I do not personally have enough knowledge of this particular incident or set of incidents to bear witness myself, there are other cases that have taken place at Hyde which I DO have personal knowledge of, whether through knowing the person or through extensive and substantial communication with them, and I would be willing to stake my life on the truth of those cases residing with the victims, and not with the slander, innuendo, and deliberate obfuscation and omission that Hyde School practices to cover its ASS.
There are accounts throughout the fornits Hyde forum of quite a number of cases ranging from inappropriate affairs to outright rape. This is not exactly the kind of thing that victims speak easily about; I imagine the actual number of cases is probably quite a bit higher. Even if not, these cases are plenty numerous enough, in and of themselves, to wonder what the hell is going on when Hyde School "breaks them down to build them up."
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almost 2 Wks and Bud-bubs never came back. Wonder why.
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Bcus earl bigelow was a bad bad boy
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I am pretty sure that there was no "blow job", but that the contact was "over the line" of what a teacher and a student should be doing together. And they were not alone. They were in a van with a bunch of other people. Most of whom didn't even notice anything when questioned. So it could be that he put his hand on her leg or something. Which is definitely over the line, but not at all the same as having a 16 year old give you a blow job. This sort of thing ruins people's lives when you post it. Consider that the girl deserves a little privacy about this, too. She already had to deal with more than she should have-- and having everyone think those things about her is victimizing her again. Many people reading this know who she is.
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wow this thread gets worse by the post. This teacher was getting his sexual amusement in a van, surrounded with a bunch of other students? Or was that part of the tittillation? To see if he could pull it off without them noticing?
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I am pretty sure that there was no "blow job", but that the contact was "over the line" of what a teacher and a student should be doing together. And they were not alone. They were in a van with a bunch of other people. Most of whom didn't even notice anything when questioned. So it could be that he put his hand on her leg or something. Which is definitely over the line, but not at all the same as having a 16 year old give you a blow job. This sort of thing ruins people's lives when you post it. Consider that the girl deserves a little privacy about this, too. She already had to deal with more than she should have-- and having everyone think those things about her is victimizing her again. Many people reading this know who she is.
Yes yes lets just forget this completely. Lets pretend it didnt happen and lets definitly not talk about it. Lets just sweep that one under the rug because hyde is a great school and we wouldnt want any one to see it otherwise even if it was the truth.
That girls name was never mention but EARL BIGALOW'S was thats because hes and old dirty creeper! Yep thats right EARL BIGALOW!
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I think it's spelled "BIGELOW BIGELOW BIGELOW"...
:jamin:
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I am pretty sure that there was no "blow job", but that the contact was "over the line" of what a teacher and a student should be doing together. And they were not alone. They were in a van with a bunch of other people. Most of whom didn't even notice anything when questioned. So it could be that he put his hand on her leg or something. Which is definitely over the line, but not at all the same as having a 16 year old give you a blow job. This sort of thing ruins people's lives when you post it. Consider that the girl deserves a little privacy about this, too. She already had to deal with more than she should have-- and having everyone think those things about her is victimizing her again. Many people reading this know who she is.
Kinda late to be talking about what the girl deserves at this juncture, dontcha think? This after someone from or associated with Hyde posted disparaging comments about her character and mental state just a few posts back. Time to try a different strategy, mmm? And just what, exactly, did Hyde DO for her when it happened, pray tell?
Lemme guess. Hyde got the story from him, and Hyde got the story from her. And because she is a kid, and we all know that most kids LIE (or at least Hyde School seems to think so), they made sure that they confronted her with half a dozen angry adults, probably most of them men, to make sure that she told "the truth." And whatever it was she told them, I think there is a fairly good possibility that -- if it wasn't to their liking -- they would have had her tell it again and again until it was.
Does anyone honestly feel she was able to tell "The Truth" under those circumstances? She herself probably doesn't even understand the whole truth about what transpired to this day. Did Hyde School do the appropriate thing, which would have been to get her some impartial outside counseling, to help her process what had just happened? And I do mean someone NOT on their "outside" consult roster, who would have just blabbed back to Hyde, as well as told them only what they wanted to hear.
My guess is that Hyde probably made an "official announcement" in school meeting at some point about the incident, that Earl Bigelow went off to "think about his life" for awhile, and that the girl was left to face the full heat of whatever anger the community felt about the matter -- alone. Amiright? I would also guess that the "official" version left a great many pertinent elements out, facts that might have put Earl Bigelow, and consequently Hyde School, in a far less than flattering light. Clearly she didn't appear to be too comfortable with whatever was or was not communicated, since she tried to bring the subject up in FLC ... but Jeff Burroughs shut her down.
I am curious whether Hyde School prohibited or "discouraged" people from talking to her about this, and "discouraged" her from talking to others, perhaps with intimations of certain impact on her standing in the school or ability to graduate if she did. If so, it certainly wouldn't be the first time they've pulled that strongarm. Gotta control those means of communication, eh? Can't have any accounts floating around that differ from the party line, can we now?
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So it could be that he put his hand on her leg or something.
:roflmao: this is so NOT CREDIBLE. For YEARS, Larry Dubinsky put a lot more than his hands, on a lot more than a lotta girls legs, and Hyde did... NADA.
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Peter Gregory did a lot more than just touch girls legs (see the other posts about him) and he still works there. So if Earl Bigalow just touched her leg he would probably still be working there. however if he got a blow job he would most likely leave on his own accord and hyde would sweep the whole story under the rug oh and that is exactly what happend.
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I am curious whether Hyde School prohibited or "discouraged" people from talking to her about this, and "discouraged" her from talking to others
Dissension is more easily managed when the community gets its facts only from "approved" sources.
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I remember going to a junior leadership meeting after this came out. The whole thing was spun like it was our fault for not seeing this in Mr. Bigelow and that it was a serious problem that we as "junior leaders" were hesitant to speak up and confront faculty when we felt uncomfortable with what they were doing. I remember they made us write down three things that we were going to do to improve the community. God they fucked with us so much I never knew what to think but the whole Bigelow thing was pretty much dropped and forgotten after that.
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Thank you for that narrative; it really brings back that oppressive, soul-scouring climate! [Ya know, you really have a gift for that; I wish you would write more often! ;) ]
"The whole thing was spun like it was our fault for not seeing this in Mr. Bigelow and that it was a serious problem that we as "junior leaders" were hesitant to speak up and confront faculty when we felt uncomfortable with what they were doing. I remember they made us write down three things that we were going to do to improve the community."[/list]
Notice how they foist the blame onto the students' shoulders. Do parents not see how utterly fucked up this is? It has always been this way! Hyde takes no accountability for their excesses and their egregious mistakes. They are, after all, the "character experts," the "parenting experts," the "unique potential experts," etc. etc. etc. Distinctions, I hasten to add, which are completely self-awarded!
Did Earl Bigelow go off to "think about his life" for awhile after that? What happened to him for the remainder of the school year? He was still listed on Hyde's online faculty directory as of May of 2005.
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they made it out like it was her fault. 16 year old vs 40 year old. whoa it takes Einstein to figure that one out
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wow these people will lie about anything hahaha!! if they lie about a favorite teacher fucking around, what else are they lieing about?
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This sort of thing ruins people's lives when you post it.
Whose life are you concerned about?
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the big coolade drinkers were always putting the blame on everyone else LMAO
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Peter Gregory did a lot more than just touch girls legs (see the other posts about him) and he still works there. So if Earl Bigalow just touched her leg he would probably still be working there. however if he got a blow job he would most likely leave on his own accord and hyde would sweep the whole story under the rug oh and that is exactly what happend.
I heard that creeper fingered her. That place fucks with you on so many levels.
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JFC.