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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 27, 2008, 02:21:56 AM
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From: coaching@positivefamilysolutions.com (http://mailto:coaching@positivefamilysolutions.com)
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My GOD! It's even more offensive than Sarah Palin!
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There needs to be more of this kind of thing... especially with programs.
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:twofinger: lol.. Izzy you dumb fatass.
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There needs to be more of this kind of thing... especially with programs.
I don't see the problem with anything she says. I don't see where she says she can get rid of homosexuality. She just says she'll talk to this kid.
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There needs to be more of this kind of thing... especially with programs.
I don't see the problem with anything she says. I don't see where she says she can get rid of homosexuality. She just says she'll talk to this kid.
Many kids today are feeling pressure on so many levels - drugs, sex, alcohol, cutting, eating issues, and sexual preference - to name a few
Izzy considers homosexuality to be a disorder like drug and alcohol addiction, whoredom, cutting, and eating problems. That is disturbing.
What are her qualifications again? Is she a psychologist? Or is she just going to fuck around with this poor kid's head using her "gut instinct" and christ she does have the gut.
Anyone send their kid to Izzy for eating disorders? I'd like to see her coach the overweight.
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There needs to be more of this kind of thing... especially with programs.
I don't see the problem with anything she says. I don't see where she says she can get rid of homosexuality. She just says she'll talk to this kid.
She puts sexual preference in a category with all sorts of other "social pressures", implying it's somehow a choice: "drugs, sex, alcohol, cutting, eating issues, and sexual preference".
And what do you think she would talk with the kid about to pacify the parent paying the bill? That's what's so disgusting about her email. There is a reason why the APA took homosexuality out of the DSM: A: you can't fix the gay and B: trying to fix it often results in self hatred leading to suicides. The last thing a gay kid with intolerant parents needs to be told is that who he is is somehow "sick".
Well. At least she didn't refer the kid to SS like she used to. Apparantly she's found a more profitable endeavor. From what she told me, it's 3600 / month for her services (though she does give a free 30 min consultation). Almost as expensive as a program.
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Coaching scares me for the following reason:
Professional coaching is not counseling, therapy or consulting. These different skill sets and approaches to change may be adjunct skills and professions. The Professional Coach recognizes his/her limitations and refers the client for other services as ethically required. (Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaching (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaching))
Coaches charge alot and think they know alot. They don't. It is one of those things that evolved out of "the forum" or Landmark. Scary shit. I know, my sister is into that. Her eyes glaze over when she talks about it. When she started going, she would tell me that she had met people "like me". Mind you, she tenses up whenever I bring up the fact that I am a lesbian and dating.
Basically this woman is full of BS.
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Coaching scares me for the following reason:
Professional coaching is not counseling, therapy or consulting. These different skill sets and approaches to change may be adjunct skills and professions. The Professional Coach recognizes his/her limitations and refers the client for other services as ethically required. (Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaching (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaching))
Coaches charge alot and think they know alot. They don't. It is one of those things that evolved out of "the forum" or Landmark. Scary shit. I know, my sister is into that. Her eyes glaze over when she talks about it. When she started going, she would tell me that she had met people "like me". Mind you, she tenses up whenever I bring up the fact that I am a lesbian and dating.
Basically this woman is full of BS.
I see what you are saying. But are coaches are truly worse than shrinks? Shrinks' skill set sucks. They diagnose imaginary diseases. They recomend tbs.s. They never help. I don't see how a coach would do much worse. If they are connected to a scult (school and cult :) )i see it, but if they are just dolts it doesn't seem so bad.
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Arggggh... The OP reminds me of that thread I did about Jay Kay and Tranquility bay a long time ago. I spent a week or so trading emails with one of the people at WWASP about my poor psycho son.
I would have gotten the kid admitted to TB had I not gotten careless and claimed he absolutely had to be on thorazine. They said they'd think about it after I said I was willing to get him some detox treatment prior to sending him to TB. After not hearing from them for a couple days I posted up all the emails and that was the last I heard from them other than them telling me that poor Jonny wasn't a suitable canidate for TB.
I prolly coulda gotten him into PV though.
To bad that thread went bye bye after I had all my posts deleted when Izzy gave up my name to that broad on the chieftain forum. Bleh..
Izzy is a fatass moron who deserves nothing less than being dumped in a lake with a pair of concrete boots. Not that I'm advocating anyone or myself doing that, but if it happened I wouldn't give a shit either.
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There needs to be more of this kind of thing... especially with programs.
I don't see the problem with anything she says. I don't see where she says she can get rid of homosexuality. She just says she'll talk to this kid.
She puts sexual preference in a category with all sorts of other "social pressures", implying it's somehow a choice: "drugs, sex, alcohol, cutting, eating issues, and sexual preference".
And what do you think she would talk with the kid about to pacify the parent paying the bill? That's what's so disgusting about her email. There is a reason why the APA took homosexuality out of the DSM: A: you can't fix the gay and B: trying to fix it often results in self hatred leading to suicides. The last thing a gay kid with intolerant parents needs to be told is that who he is is somehow "sick".
Well. At least she didn't refer the kid to S.S. like she used to. Apparantly she's found a more profitable endeavor. From what she told me, it's 3600 / month for her services (though she does give a free 30 min consultation). Almost as expensive as a program.
I see what u r saying. But I just can't see how this is bad. Talking to someone, as long as it’s without the cult-crap, really isn't awful. Even if they aren’t shrinks. I see how it could be bad to try to tell a kid he's not gay if he is, but I also think that someone might actually end up feeling pressured to identify gay. *ducks*
I understand how weird and confusing it can get. You can think weird things are true, that aren't. Like, thinking that you are a drug addict when you are not.
Also, I think you can tune out a speechifier pretty easily. And it might be nice to have someone to listen to you, or just hang out with you. Especially if you are an isolated kid. And I can see it from a parent's view: it's pretty hard to discover your kid identifies as a transsexual. I don't mind a parent wanting to respond with gentle “persuasion,†you know. As long as there is no tough love and imprisonment I can't get upset.
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There needs to be more of this kind of thing... especially with programs.
I don't see the problem with anything she says. I don't see where she says she can get rid of homosexuality. She just says she'll talk to this kid.
Many kids today are feeling pressure on so many levels - drugs, sex, alcohol, cutting, eating issues, and sexual preference - to name a few
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Wait..But maybe she's saying that kids are under pressure to be heteronormative?
Maybe there is more to this story than i know. Is she connected to a cult?
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Trust me.. The only thing to this is Izzy wants to make sure she has enough microwavable pizza to maintain her current body weight of 839339 pounds.
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Maybe there is more to this story than i know.
There is. She was caught referring kids to Sue Scheff a while back, as well as directly to programs... Since that was made public she's more or less gone into hiding and concentrated on her "coaching" business.
Basically my issue with coaching is that it's simply an ulicenced form of therapy, and as such, is inherantly dangerous. There are other concerns too. Have you ever seen the Penn and Teller episode of Bullshit on coaching?
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From: coaching@positivefamilysolutions.com (http://mailto:coaching@positivefamilysolutions.com)
http://www.positivefamilysolutions.com (http://www.positivefamilysolutions.com)
My GOD! It's even more offensive than Sarah Palin!
Sarah Palin is a complete douche, as well, I mean , really!
Anyway, hey IZZY why don't ye get off of your fat ass and actually educate yourself for once instead of trying to act like ye are actually qualified to educate other people?...this is reality right here you cum guzzling gutter whore!
This is from the human rights campaign website:
MYTHS & FACTS ABOUT GLBT PEOPLE
It’s important to remember that most of the negative stereotypes
of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people are based on
erroneous or inadequate information. Here are some myths and
facts to help you flesh out what’s what:
It’s a “choice.†Sexual orientation and gender identity are
not choices, any more than being left-handed or having brown
eyes or being straight are choices. The choice is in deciding
whether or not to live your life openly and honestly with yourself
and others.
It’s a “lifestyle.†It’s sometimes said that GLBT people
live a gay “lifestyle.†The problem with that word is that it can
trivialize GLBT people and the struggles they face. Being GLBT
is no more a lifestyle than being straight — it’s a life, just like
anyone else’s.
Same-sex relationships don’t last. Same-sex
couples can, and do, form lasting, lifelong, committed relationships
— just like any other couple. And just like any other couple,
sometimes same-sex relationships end. The primary difference
is that same-sex couples have few opportunities to marry or enter
into civil unions or domestic partnerships.
GLBT people can’t have families. According to
the 2000 Census, more than 1 million children — probably many
more — are being raised by same-sex couples nationwide. The
American Psychological Association and other major medical
and scientific researchers have stated that children of gay and
lesbian parents are as mentally healthy as children raised by
straight parents.
GLBT people aren’t happy. In 1994, the American
Medical Association released a statement saying, “Most of the
emotional disturbance experienced by gay men and lesbians
around their sexual identity is not based on physiological causes
but rather is due more to a sense of alienation in an unaccepting
environment.†What that means is that the discrimination and
stress that GLBT people face is the root cause of a great deal
of pain for many GLBT people. That pain can be alleviated by
knowing that there is a vibrant, growing community of GLBT and
straight-supportive Americans who know and care about GLBT
people and the issues they face.
GLBT people can “change†or be “cured.â€
No scientifically valid evidence exists that shows that people can
change their sexual orientation, although some people do repress
it. The most reputable medical and psychotherapeutic groups
say you should not try to change your sexual orientation as the
process can actually be damaging.
Hey IZZY, I hope that ye enjoyed this education you cock juggling thunder cunt!
-DP
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cock juggling thunder cunt
Blade: Trinity (http://http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0359013/quotes)
Best line of the movie, hands down.
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I have two basic problems with what Izzy is doing. First, no shit many teens today feel pressured on a number of social issues. It has always been thus. And, I think, even more so by many orders of magnitude since our society has adopted as normal the perverse practice of sending our young to 'professionals' to raise them for us. So the solution is to find yet another total stranger to talk with your kid about these sensitive, personal issues?
Second, Izzy has been very openly and publicly affiliated with known edcons for a very long time. I worry that she'd use the same tactics that other edcons do; elicit personal info. from the kid then use it to scare the parents into buying some program or other to "save their lives".
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i spent last night dispelling these myths over the internet with my nephew. He is 18 and is certain their is a magic dick out there. He was also believing all those myths he hears. I had to break it down very simply for him into you know that giddy, stars and stripes, lets do this 1000 more times feeling. After that he got it. Either you get it or you don't from one sex or the other, but not necessarily both. At last when I told him that never happened with guys he relented. Oy vey. Either you have that feeling or you move on. I moved on, and the world won't come to an end, and I finally understood. "afternoon delight". Why the incessant need "to fix" that?
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I do much of my coaching over the phone which I have found it to be easier for many teens.
Question: Is coaching over the phone really easier for the teens or is it bullshit designed to let Izzy sit on her huge bovine ass and gorge while getting paid to talk shit about what she knows not?
Seeing Izzy could be the tie breaker for a young man unsure of his sexuality.