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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 13, 2008, 05:27:01 PM
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If you are looking for sensationalism and mistruths, this is the place to read them.
WE have a prolific 'journalist' - AJAX 13 with lots to say about a man (Dean Vause) he has never met and a treatment centre he has never been to (AARC). He will argue that his wife has told him the 'truth' about her experience at AARC. however, she is a lone wolf and her stories just do not check out with any other grads who were in AARC at the time she was. Her mother has also published articles describing the hell their family went through with this daugther. Her mother also describes the gratitude the famiily had for AARC. the only person complaining is a client that graduated who has now found a man who seems to want to keep her in a very sick state of mind.
Ajax13 regularly comes up with more ridiculous lies about Dean Vause - just keep coming back to hear them.
Unfortunately there are canadian jounrnalists who seem to be looking for a train wreck and are looking to further Ajax's tabloids. I caution them - they will be ones who come out as being very unprofessional and the ones doing harm to kids and families who need help.
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Sorry, how do you know who my wife was, what former AARC prisoners were in with her, and who her mother is? If you do know who she is, how have you managed to talk to all of the former prisoners who did time in AARC with her? Did you make a lot of those long distance calls that you alluded to? How did you get contact information for all of them? The moderator of the AARCSurvivor forum was in with her, is a grad, and has been fighting AARC for years. Steve Lebaron was in with her, but he's dead. The male oldcomer who assaulted her in his bedroom has kept kind of a low profile with regard to AARC, but I'm curious as to what he said to you. Natalie Oldcomer probably has a different opinion of AARC from that of my wife, but then again she allowed herself to be put into an adolescent facility as a full-grown adult. In fact, my wife and yet another grad who was in with her were debating as to just how far past twenty-one Natalie was when she entered AARC. AARC's client base was much smaller when my wife was held there than it is now, but at least half a dozen of those who were held there while she was there are active opponents of AARC. That doesn't seem to jive with your statement that her stories don't check out with any other grads who were in AARC with her. In fact, last summer my wife ran into a young man who had been in AARC with her. His wife was urging him to get psychological help to deal with the damage done to him in AARC. When you spoke to him, what did he say? I'd tell you to talk to my wife's former clinical, but like every other clinical staffer who wasn't a former client or relative of the Wiz, she is long gone.
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Ajax, every word you waste on this fuckclown is a word NOT sent to someone who might be able to do something about AARC.
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Maskirovka. Look it up.
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Sorry, how do you know who my wife was, what former AARC prisoners were in with her, and who her mother is? If you do know who she is, how have you managed to talk to all of the former prisoners who did time in AARC with her? Did you make a lot of those long distance calls that you alluded to? How did you get contact information for all of them? The moderator of the AARCSurvivor forum was in with her, is a grad, and has been fighting AARC for years. Steve Lebaron was in with her, but he's dead. The male oldcomer who assaulted her in his bedroom has kept kind of a low profile with regard to AARC, but I'm curious as to what he said to you. Natalie Oldcomer probably has a different opinion of AARC from that of my wife, but then again she allowed herself to be put into an adolescent facility as a full-grown adult. In fact, my wife and yet another grad who was in with her were debating as to just how far past twenty-one Natalie was when she entered AARC. AARC's client base was much smaller when my wife was held there than it is now, but at least half a dozen of those who were held there while she was there are active opponents of AARC. That doesn't seem to jive with your statement that her stories don't check out with any other grads who were in AARC with her. In fact, last summer my wife ran into a young man who had been in AARC with her. His wife was urging him to get psychological help to deal with the damage done to him in AARC. When you spoke to him, what did he say? I'd tell you to talk to my wife's former clinical, but like every other clinical staffer who wasn't a former client or relative of the Wiz, she is long gone.
simple - read your online posts on our websites - you say the same things there as on fornits and you sign you name !
not any effort at all, so don't read into it too much.
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Ajax, every word you waste on this fuckclown is a word NOT sent to someone who might be able to do something about AARC.
WOW, so hurtful. and yes we know Vinny is a prolific tabloid journalist. ::deadhorse::
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You have some websites on which I have posted? What sites would those be? But back to you talking to all of the grads who were in with my wife. None of them have mentioned that to me, nor to her as far as I know. What gives?
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Sorry, how do you know who my wife was, what former AARC prisoners were in with her, and who her mother is? If you do know who she is, how have you managed to talk to all of the former prisoners who did time in AARC with her? Did you make a lot of those long distance calls that you alluded to? How did you get contact information for all of them? The moderator of the AARCSurvivor forum was in with her, is a grad, and has been fighting AARC for years. Steve Lebaron was in with her, but he's dead. The male oldcomer who assaulted her in his bedroom has kept kind of a low profile with regard to AARC, but I'm curious as to what he said to you. Natalie Oldcomer probably has a different opinion of AARC from that of my wife, but then again she allowed herself to be put into an adolescent facility as a full-grown adult. In fact, my wife and yet another grad who was in with her were debating as to just how far past twenty-one Natalie was when she entered AARC. AARC's client base was much smaller when my wife was held there than it is now, but at least half a dozen of those who were held there while she was there are active opponents of AARC. That doesn't seem to jive with your statement that her stories don't check out with any other grads who were in AARC with her. In fact, last summer my wife ran into a young man who had been in AARC with her. His wife was urging him to get psychological help to deal with the damage done to him in AARC. When you spoke to him, what did he say? I'd tell you to talk to my wife's former clinical, but like every other clinical staffer who wasn't a former client or relative of the Wiz, she is long gone.
Natalie oldcomer has more going for in her little finger than your wife will ever have, period it. Like Vause you have never met her or know any truth about her. She is a commendable young woman that took responsibility for her life and went through the hard process of recovery without coming out blaming and whining for decades after. Attcking her is another BIG stretch to find fault with - what age she went into AARC??? LOL . It would have been when she was approx. 19 since she is 11 years sober at 29or30. So, what is youe ridiculous point about her age. The point is that she doesn't whine and snivel and expect her husband to attack some agency for her because she got called on all her sick BS. she went through the same place around the same time as your wife it sounds and she certainly doesn't cry - torture and abuse . It seems ridiculous to speak of her while speaking of your wife because Natalie is leagues ahead in terms of health and contribution to society. Your wife will continue to be a drain
And the hearsay about other clients? keep fostering your tabloid aspirations, vinny.
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Again, you claim to have spoken to all of the grads who were in AARC with my wife. That seems at odds with the fact that the originator of AARCSurvivor is a grad, and was in with my wife. Did she have a favorable opinoin of AARC when you spoke to her? Natalie Oldcomer was over twenty-one when she went into AARC, an adolescent treatment centre. Another curious thing about AARC. My wife has a number of pictures taken at the centre from her time in AARC. One is of Natalie Oldcomer indulging an addiction that AARC fosters, smoking. As smoking is considered generally, to be a deadly habit, why do you suppose a recovery centre that prohibits the use of a less dangerous drug, marijuana, but encourages smoking? But I digress. If neither medical professionals, nor journalists would believe me, what compels you time after time to try to shut me up? Particularly if you think I'm just a sicko with no basis to what I say. If there's overwhelming evidence to the contrary of what I say, why bother? After all, it's just my lone wolf wife and me, right?
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Again, you claim to have spoken to all of the grads who were in AARC with my wife. That seems at odds with the fact that the originator of AARCSurvivor is a grad, and was in with my wife. Did she have a favorable opinoin of AARC when you spoke to her? Natalie Oldcomer was over twenty-one when she went into AARC, an adolescent treatment centre. Another curious thing about AARC. My wife has a number of pictures taken at the centre from her time in AARC. One is of Natalie Oldcomer indulging an addiction that AARC fosters, smoking. As smoking is considered generally, to be a deadly habit, why do you suppose a recovery centre that prohibits the use of a less dangerous drug, marijuana, but encourages smoking? But I digress. If neither medical professionals, nor journalists would believe me, what compels you time after time to try to shut me up? Particularly if you think I'm just a sicko with no basis to what I say. If there's overwhelming evidence to the contrary of what I say, why bother? After all, it's just my lone wolf wife and me, right?
Guess you are going to have to dig that up for me, you swwet thing. i do not recall saying I have spoken to "all" the clients that were in AARC at the time your sick woman was. Incidentally what is it about sick exactly that is soo attractive as ooposed to woman like Natalie or Janne who came out the other end from some very destructive addictions (with the help of AARC). you instead like the ones that refused to acknowledge their addiction and moan about being a victim. You don't qwuite realize that is CLASSIC for an addict to do if they are in denial and refuse to get real. Your wife seemed more able to continue to treat her family harshly because verything that is wrong in her life is ALWAYS due to others (people, places or things as they say). VERY CLASSIC tactics by someone such as wour wife and by proxy, YOU!!!
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PS: uhm no, it is not your lone wolf wife and you anymore BECAUSE you and others you have infected continue to try and enlist other graduates, some successfully and others basically tell ya to go get well somewhere.
you also try to enlist others from news agencies and elsewhere to your cause. Hoepfully those people would be a bit less naive BUT those that don't understand addiction will be taken right in by it.
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PS: uhm no, it is not your lone wolf wife and you anymore BECAUSE you and others you have infected continue to try and enlist other graduates, some successfully and others basically tell ya to go get well somewhere.
It really doesn't take any kind of enlisting. It's fairly obvious that Vause's education is dubious, at best. It's totally obvious that AARC is pretty much a carbon copy of KIDS which was a carbon copy of Straight. It's totally obvious that AARC is misleading parents and the Canadian government as to what exactly it is that they provide to their students. I mean patients. Are they a treatment center with patients or a school with students?
you also try to enlist others from news agencies and elsewhere to your cause.
Yep. So what? Its about time someone shined the light on these cockroaches.
Hoepfully those people would be a bit less naive BUT those that don't understand addiction will be taken right in by it.
Depends on what definition of addiction you're using, Vause's or the AMA's. Vause is claiming addiction in kids that cannot possibly be "addicted" in any sense at all. Addiction is not a "disease of the feelings" like Newton and Vause claim. True addiction is a physical dependence on a chemical. Do you seriously want to try and convince people that these weekend warrior kids in AARC are actually ADDICTS?
Does Vause ever use the term dry druggie? Or druggie tendencies?
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PS: uhm no, it is not your lone wolf wife and you anymore BECAUSE you and others you have infected continue to try and enlist other graduates, some successfully and others basically tell ya to go get well somewhere.
It really doesn't take any kind of enlisting. It's fairly obvious that Vause's education is dubious, at best. It's totally obvious that AARC is pretty much a carbon copy of KIDS which was a carbon copy of Straight. It's totally obvious that AARC is misleading parents and the Canadian government as to what exactly it is that they provide to their students. I mean patients. Are they a treatment center with patients or a school with students?
When the hell has AARC ever said it is a school???????????????????????? I suppose because they provide highschool tutoring for clients they are a school?? they provide a gym and basketball court, does that make them a recration centre?
As far as Vause's education being dubious. What qualifies you to make that statement. Do you have a PhD?
you also try to enlist others from news agencies and elsewhere to your cause.
Yep. So what? Its about time someone shined the light on these cockroaches.
And Vinny's fav guest is doing the same. so, what's up with the bad rap he's getting? But as far as enlisting others, they are fucking with people' wellbeing whether the cockroaches know it or not. They are toxic
Hoepfully those people would be a bit less naive BUT those that don't understand addiction will be taken right in by it.
Depends on what definition of addiction you're using, Vause's or the AMA's. Vause is claiming addiction in kids that cannot possibly be "addicted" in any sense at all. Addiction is not a "disease of the feelings" like Newton and Vause claim. True addiction is a physical dependence on a chemical. Do you seriously want to try and convince people that these weekend warrior kids in AARC are actually ADDICTS?
Does Vause ever use the term dry druggie? Or druggie tendencies?
Oh DUH . . and Vause doesn't know what addicion is and he doesn't think addiction is a physical dependence - you are as lame as ajax13. do you think maybe when he is talking about 'disease of the feeling' he JUST MIGHT be talking about symptoms. This just goes to show the lack to understnading that some of you have. Also, no matter what does or doesn't do or says or doesn't say - you bring it here and twist it in a way that suits the purpose of blaming AARC for lack of education andmental health. . . .
Guess Vause should add some professionalism to the ay he speaks to the clients, those REAL sensitve ones because he should watch out for their feeeeeeeelings. oh ya, it is NOT a disease of the feelings . . sorry :wall:
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Are they clients or patients? Is AARC a school or a treatment center?
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When the hell has AARC ever said it is a school???????????????????????? I suppose because they provide highschool tutoring for clients they are a school?? they provide a gym and basketball court, does that make them a recration centre?
I was asking what it was billed as. Thanks for the answer. It's a treatment center then, no?
As far as Vause's education being dubious. What qualifies you to make that statement. Do you have a PhD?
Why would I need a PhD to question someone's education credentials?
And Vinny's fav guest is doing the same. so, what's up with the bad rap he's getting? But as far as enlisting others, they are fucking with people' wellbeing whether the cockroaches know it or not. They are toxic [/color]
Vinny's fav guest is welcome to say anything he wishes. As is Ajax. As far as the second sentence.....english motherfucker. Do you speak it?
Oh DUH . . and Vause doesn't know what addicion is and he doesn't think addiction is a physical dependence -
Well, yes. We can agree on that.
do you think maybe when he is talking about 'disease of the feeling' he JUST MIGHT be talking about symptoms.
No. I think he's using it the same way that Newton did when he coined that phrase.
This just goes to show the lack to understnading that some of you have. Also, no matter what does or doesn't do or says or doesn't say - you bring it here and twist it in a way that suits the purpose of blaming AARC for lack of education andmental health. . . .
If they're claiming to be a treatment center, I want to know the qualifications and methodologies they use. How is that concept so foreign to you?
Guess Vause should add some professionalism to the ay he speaks to the clients, those REAL sensitve ones because he should watch out for their feeeeeeeelings. oh ya, it is NOT a disease of the feelings . . sorry :wall:
Well, no shit. Tell that to Vause.
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When the hell has AARC ever said it is a school???????????????????????? I suppose because they provide highschool tutoring for clients they are a school?? they provide a gym and basketball court, does that make them a recration centre?
I was asking what it was billed as. Thanks for the answer. It's a treatment center then, no?
uhm, whatduhyathink!!!
As far as Vause's education being dubious. What qualifies you to make that statement. Do you have a PhD?
Why would I need a PhD to question someone's education credentials?
uhm, whatduhyathink, again!!! it kinda would make you knowledgeable enough to judge; not just some loser who thinks he/she can judge the quality of a PhD even though they haven't finshed highschool (or only have a high school education or a basic undergrad). Your remark certainly didn't come from anyone who has earned a PhD - UNLESS ya have been through graduate training you have no way of judging it, you have supplied us with arbitrary speculation from an uninformed person. If you can't get that. stuff it - got nothing else to say on that topic, it is too freaking basic.
And Vinny's fav guest is doing the same. so, what's up with the bad rap he's getting? But as far as enlisting others, they are fucking with people' wellbeing whether the cockroaches know it or not. They are toxic [/color]
Vinny's fav guest is welcome to say anything he wishes. As is Ajax. As far as the second sentence.....english motherfucker. Do you speak it?
No uh help me out genius i.e get the typo police on to me . just the usual tactic of evasion of a good point being made.
Oh DUH . . and Vause doesn't know what addicion is and he doesn't think addiction is a physical dependence -
Well, yes. We can agree on that.
NOPE, your are missing the basics again, einstein!
do you think maybe when he is talking about 'disease of the feeling' he JUST MIGHT be talking about symptoms.
No. I think he's using it the same way that Newton did when he coined that phrase.
Yes, him and several hundred other people in the field who use the term 'disease of the feelings' but you miss that one too. AND AGIAN THEY ARE SPEAKING OF SYMPTOMS, EINSTEIN!! LOL
This just goes to show the lack to understanding that some of you have. Also, no matter what he does or doesn't do or says or doesn't say - you bring it here and twist it in a way that suits the purpose of blaming AARC for passt clients' lack of education and mental health. . . .
If they're claiming to be a treatment center, I want to know the qualifications and methodologies they use. How is that concept so foreign to you?
NOW, have you taken a look at your grammar "motherfucker" LOL you don't even realize what "methodologies" refers to, . . .LOL SO you believe AARC is not a treatment centre . . well all the power to you. If it makes you feel better, i guess that is what it is for you. In your EXPERT opinion, with no PhD what exactly is a treatment centre??
Guess Vause should add some professionalism to the way he speaks to the clients, those REAL sensitve ones because he should watch out for their feeeeeeeelings. oh ya, it is NOT a disease of the feelings . . sorry :wall:
Well, no shit. Tell that to Vause.
uhm . . and that would be so you would be happy cuz he is hurting your feelings, poor thing and all you buddies out there claiming abuse (there are those symptoms again). He would reply the same as me -> :wall: LOL
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HEy Psy
NO response, what's wrong?? ::poke::
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AARC a school?
AARC is in fact a charity, they are licensed only as a charity and are considered a "Temperance Association"
See: City of Calgary White Pages 2008 edition...
page 124 ...
Heading "Special Settings" ...
First Entry: Alberta Adolescent Recovery Center (AARC) 303 Forge Road SE 253-5250
AARC has on it's premises and an off campus classroom of the Alternative High School.
Students/clients are coded as having "severe behaviour problems", "a danger to themselves and others" and "requiring constant adult supervision", via a Calgary Board of Education BASC evaluation upon entering treatment if they are school age.
These same student/clients are, within a short period of time (2 months - Level 2 - One week of "Oldcomer" training), put in the position of being responsible for other youth with the same coding. As far as constant adult supervision, parents receive written documents instructing them to have as little contact as possible with the clients in their homes, with the supervision of the newcomers solely belonging to the oldcomer.
Interesting though, that these students/clients are not actually attending classes for most of their duration in the program if at all.
Ajax and partner (former client/graduate/student of AARC) alone in their grievances
I have spoken to dozens of former clients/students/graduates/parents/run aways/agencies/professionals/media who have significant reports of emotional, psychological, physical and financial abuse, neglect, coercion, familial and parental alienation, human rights violations, misrepresentation and fraud. This does not include the list of people who are no longer alive or currently incarcerated. I'm fairly confident there are others who I haven't had the pleasure to speak with.
So no, Ajax and his partner are NOT alone.
qualifications
Interesting that AARC employs only former graduates and/or their families in all levels of it's operation, considering there are many other qualified individuals who haven't been directly involved as participants in the AARC program.
Please take a close look at any claimed degrees. I PhD. does not mean someone is a psychologist or a medical doctor.
Unfortunately, the rehabilitation industry is unregulated in this country. IF it's a private (not government operated) facility.
Host homes are simply private residences - not licensed group homes. Who do you think is liable? The clients/parents themselves.
What else did you have a problem with?
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HEy Psy
NO response, what's wrong?? ::poke::
Was busy. I'll get around to it. I do have stuff to do that doesn't involve AARC at the moment... but I promise to make more time for AARC from now on since you miss me so when i'm gone.
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AARC a school?
AARC is in fact a charity, they are licensed only as a charity and are considered a "Temperance Association"
See: City of Calgary White Pages 2008 edition...
page 124 ...
Heading "Special Settings" ...
First Entry: Alberta Adolescent Recovery Center (AARC) 303 Forge Road SE 253-5250
AARC has on it's premises and an off campus classroom of the Alternative High School.
Students/clients are coded as having "severe behaviour problems", "a danger to themselves and others" and "requiring constant adult supervision", via a Calgary Board of Education BASC evaluation upon entering treatment if they are school age.
YEs TAMI - you create, AARC treats them. WHy should you precious time be consumed . . uhm cleaning up your mess
These same student/clients are, within a short period of time (2 months - Level 2 - One week of "Oldcomer" training), put in the position of being responsible for other youth with the same coding. As far as constant adult supervision, parents receive written documents instructing them to have as little contact as possible with the clients in their homes, with the supervision of the newcomers solely belonging to the oldcomer.
Likely, because some parents are as twisted as you and so although not all are, they have to deal with the ones like you to protect the kids' well-being. Some of the treated kids are far better than you keep even hope to get!
Interesting though, that these students/clients are not actually attending classes for most of their duration in the program if at all.
uhm . . they are in treatment , should they have them getting ready for Harvard?
Ajax and partner (former client/graduate/student of AARC) alone in their grievances
I have spoken to dozens REALLY, semi-structured interviews, how many EXACTLY from where / any transcripts??? of former clients/students/graduates/parents/run aways/agencies/professionals/media who have significant reports of emotional, psychological, physical and financial abuse, neglect, coercion, familial and parental alienation, human rights violations, misrepresentation and fraud. This does not include the list of people who are no longer alive or currently incarcerated. I'm fairly confident there are others who I haven't had the pleasure to speak with.
Sounds pretty scientific and reliable for AJAX!
So no, Ajax and his partner are NOT alone. nope they have you and you are such a help to those around you as we can tell but do share with us the details - how many former client? how many students? how many graduates? how many parents? how many run aways? how many agencies? how many professionals? how many media?
qualifications
Interesting that AARC employs only former graduates and/or their families in all levels of it's operation, considering there are many other qualified individuals who haven't been directly involved as participants in the AARC program.
UHm here you go showing how dense you are - former grads who have gone through addiction and recovery and gotten counselling degrees up to a Masters level and that is not good enough for you. dod ya think maybe they are the ones who would truly have the knowledge, capacity, experience and training to know what a client is going through??? In you wee mind, someone that hasn't been an addict alacoholic or know the recovery process like an addit wouldbe more in tune?? not to mention those that not only have that background but professional training
Please take a close look at any claimed degrees. I PhD. does not mean someone is a psychologist or a medical doctor.
REad other posts here - it does mean that they have the most knowledge on the particular area of their PhD and expert and that is Vause's PhD - adolescent addiction treatment, but you need to have psychologist. shows what you know LOL
Unfortunately, the rehabilitation industry is unregulated in this country. AND unfortunately anyone can have kids in this country IF it's a private (not government operated) facility.
Host homes are simply private residences - not licensed group homes. Who do you think is liable? The clients/parents themselves. AND does AARC have percautions and procedures in place- be careful not to lie
What else did you have a problem with? yes, what other things can you find to say that speaks against a proven track record of helping kids and families - please share you numbers. I really want to know if I should be ready to count on two hands
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All these goddam long posts..
So what the hell are we arguing about here? I want in on this.
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quote="Froderik"]All these goddam long posts..
So what the hell are we arguing about here? I want in on this.[/quote]
I think the point has been made that this site is like reading stuff in the tabloids - ridiculous claims to taunt the rubber neckers, the ones looking for a train wreck at AARC that JUST can't find one . . B-CUZ one does not exist . However, we have a couple regulars here that want us all to believe one does . . you know :blabla: :blabla: :blabla: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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So were you in this place?
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YEs TAMI - you create, AARC treats them. WHy should you precious time be consumed . . uhm cleaning up your mess
I'm glad you have such a high opinion of AARC clients. Describing them as other people's messes. Wow, you must be such a pleasure sit in rap all day with!
Unfortunately your experts aren't so good at recognizing and diagnosing addiction. Don't worry, plenty of my "precious time" as you like to refer to is being spent cleaning up a mess alright.
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nope they have you and you are such a help to those around you as we can tell but do share with us the details - how many former client? how many students? how many graduates? how many parents? how many run aways? how many agencies? how many professionals? how many media?
I'm afraid you don't need to know how many former clients/students/graduates/parents/runaways/agencies or media I've spoken to. That is simply none of your business. I'm not going to dig through research to satisfy your curiosity, or ferreting out information. I posted a comment to make a point. I made it, the numbers are completely irrelevant. My point is that AJAX is is far from alone is his complaints about AARC.
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YEs TAMI - you create, AARC treats them. WHy should you precious time be consumed . . uhm cleaning up your mess
I'm glad you have such a high opinion of AARC clients. Describing them as other people's messes. Wow, you must be such a pleasure sit in rap all day with!
Unfortunately your experts aren't so good at recognizing and diagnosing addiction. Don't worry, plenty of my "precious time" as you like to refer to is being spent cleaning up a mess alright.
Tami Dearest, why didn't you take your poor kid somewhere else???? then it would have been a different facility getting blamed for your mess. And yes, you should be cleaning up a mess that YOU created. Youare dead right. I don't have a good opinion of AARC clients like you. But ones who are not as self-absorbed and who go through, give back and have an genuinely healthy relationship with the rest of their family and others - I have a very high opinion of. What is your opinion of those clients? - bet you do not a good thing to say about them, do you - like they are brain-washed and in AARC's control, rather than bloody grateful and just good people who needed help and took it. .
And by the way, you were the one in 'rap sessions' not me, because dear, you needed some help. Oh ya, AARC was a terrible place :blabla: :blabla: It had absolutely NOTHING to do with you . . roflmao.
Sorry Tami Dearest, I have read your attack on Noah (a grad expressin his gratitude for AARC) and your BS here - you should have been shipped to the Foothills centre and locked up. Maybe your kid would have got and stayed well. From what I hear you have twisted him up real well since he graduated. I feel VERY VERY sorry for him. IT is NOT AARC that 'created' him, the poor kid didn't have a chance even without being an addict (as you say). SO, if he isn't, what is wrong and who played a role in that?
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you were the one in 'rap sessions' not me, because dear, you needed some help.
Ok. Now Let's do an experiment here. You have made a statement. X because Y.
X - in rap sessions
Y - needed help
So back up Y. Show me the evidence or reasoning you have to back up Y.
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you were the one in 'rap sessions' not me, because dear, you needed some help.
Ok. Now Let's do an experiment here. You have made a statement. X because Y.
X - in rap sessions
Y - needed help
So back up Y. Show me the evidence or reasoning you have to back up Y.
I "needed some help." Those were the exact words used by Suzanne Byrd on my intake back in 1982. What Straight had to offer was not help. Far from it.
I'd like to pose my question again to the same guest: So, were you in this place?