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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: AuntieEm2 on August 08, 2008, 05:10:44 PM
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Have any of you been successful at getting your records from a program?
Does a person have a legal right to one's records, do you know? I know in a medical or psychiatric facility, this is true, but not sure about private "schools" and "quackademys."
Auntie Em
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You do, but the thing is these places are cults and so the records are hardly accurate or meaningful. You can get them but you'll need to either steal them, or get great lawyers, as well as the police involved.
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my records got burned in an "accidental" fire. HLA.
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my records got burned in an "accidental" fire. HLA.
that's hilarious
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I really hate to be an asshat,really I do but I had the opportunity to steal my records in 1980 but, it was pointless,they didnt say shit,no hard data by anyone who would be taken seriously.Straights records were nubulous and thin at best. nothing in them would hold up in court
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Wouldn't the thinness and irrelevance of one's records be evidence of a sort right there?
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Wouldn't the thinness and irrelevance of one's records be evidence of a sort right there?
yes. Basically everything these places do is evidence of some sort. Investigate the lack of credentials of the people working there. There connections to other gulags. Then of course, there's what your niece will tell you was done to her
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Yeah, that's pretty much been my take on it. They're good for research, though, if you can get them. Just the sheer lunacy of some of the entries help tell the story of how bug all nuts these people are.
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Im tellin ya my scorecard from miniature golf lastnight has more facts,yer wastin yer time
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Im tellin ya my scorecard from miniature golf lastnight has more facts,yer wastin yer time
yEAH, but that blankness in itself is evidence of wrong doing. "Hospitals" are supposed to keep records
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Have any of you been successful at getting your records from a program?
Yes, but it took a lawyer threatening and i'm fairly sure they aren't complete as it is. Some of the documentation is pretty nuts. I recommend trying to get your records is you can. Use HIPAA.
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Great fun is using HIPAA to demand records that WOULD have been kept by any reputable mental health facility, but you know they never kept.
Watch them try like hell to convince a judge of their own ineptness.
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Great fun is using HIPAA to demand records that WOULD have been kept by any reputable mental health facility, but you know they never kept.
Watch them try like hell to convince a judge of their own ineptness.
You have no idea how funny that is to me at the moment. Finger's crossed, i'll be able to explain why on the 13th.
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Also, start trying to get them as soon as possible. Maybe even now? The longer you wait the harder it is
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So if I wanted to get my file, I just go to the program and ask for it? What if the facility is not in a driveable area...call and ask them to mail it? What kind of resistance can I expect? I would really like to have that information, any help on how to obtain it would be great.
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So if I wanted to get my file, I just go to the program and ask for it? What if the facility is not in a driveable area...call and ask them to mail it? What kind of resistance can I expect? I would really like to have that information, any help on how to obtain it would be great.
PM me, email me, or hit me up on IM and i'll help ya out. I can explain what I did in detail, help you prepare something, and if the situation requires it eventually, refer you to somebody who might be able to scare the living shit out of the program to get them to hand the records over (which was required in my case).
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Psy, do you know if you have to over 18 to get your own records?
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Psy, do you know if you have to over 18 to get your own records?
Not sure... I'd have to look it up... but given what I had in mind, I'm not sure the program would argue much (but ya never know. They can be unpredictable).
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I'm guessing minors don't have the same rights to their records. I'll see what I can find out.
Em
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I'm guessing minors don't have the same rights to their records. I'll see what I can find out.
Em
You would want to look here, probably:
http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa/ (http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa/)
Specifically
http://www.hipaa.samhsa.gov/Part2ComparisonCleared.htm (http://www.hipaa.samhsa.gov/Part2ComparisonCleared.htm)
Now they could argue that they aren't substance abuse programs, technically, but if they did, they would know you could publish that response all over the place... which is why they'll just comply whether or not they aren't techincally required to. Ever seen a program try to argue that they aren't licensed? LOL. Well. They don't want to.