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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on August 04, 2008, 09:04:15 PM
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"As a survivor of Internet defamation,"
this phrase is used to describe sue scheff. Just, christ. Please, the word "survivor" should not be perverted in this manner.
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"As a survivor of Internet defamation,"
this phrase is used to describe sue scheff. Just, christ. Please, the word "survivor" should not be perverted in this manner.
According to her twisted logic, we are just as much survivors of her bullshit. Moreso, actually.
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It really is amazing what a crock the mainstream media is. I mean don't they have to research what they're reporting just a lil? I guess the editor assigns them the angle of their story and they roll with it.
I'm sorry in the internet age, there is just no excuse for posting such easily refutable --or at least quite controversial--
assertions as fact.
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It's just a word. It can be used to describe many types of experiences. not just programs.
Car crash survivor
Plane crash survivor
Hurricane survivor
etc
I am curious thought why you are focused on scheff. did she send you to the program you were at?
There are edcons that send way more kids than scheff. i never see their names here, just wondering why the focus is on her. thanks
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It's just a word. It can be used to describe many types of experiences. not just programs.
Car crash survivor
Plane crash survivor
Hurricane survivor
etc
I am curious thought why you are focused on scheff. did she send you to the program you were at?
There are edcons that send way more kids than scheff. i never see their names here, just wondering why the focus is on her. thanks
You know the evolution of the word "survivor" is interesting. It used to only be applicable to holocaust survivors. Now it's used willy-nilly. I think it should be reclaimed and used with respect to its seriousness.
The extensive focus on her is due to the fact she "betrayed" a group of anti-program advocates. She also successfully sued a parent who spoke out against her child abuse. Also, she has tried to sue fornits into submission
Is this right?
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The extensive focus on her is due to the fact she "betrayed" a group of anti-program advocates. She also successfully sued a parent who spoke out against her child abuse. Also, she has tried to sue fornits into submission
Is this right?
More or less, but the harassment didn't stop with the lawsuit. The whole reason fornits has been bouncing around for the past year is because of her antics (writing our hosting services, claiming all sorts of nonsense, threatening)... and the harassment hardly stops there. Maybe if she shut the fuck up people would forget about her but she can't seem to help kicking the Fornit's nest again and again.
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I'm just amazed she won her suit. I imagine everything said was at least "arguably" accurate, and it did target a public figure, and it was relevant to public discourse... I guess it helped that Corey didn't show up to court because she didn't receive the summons..but still.
People get away with internet slander that is monstrous. I'm very liberal with what I think should be protected by free speech laws..but somethings written are genuinely too evil to be allowed.
Some kid committed suicide, and /b/tards defamed and insulted the kid.. made a site dedicated to how much he deserves to be dead and how bad he is. They harassed his mom with evil phone calls insulting the kid, hacking a memorial site... and the slanderers have not been penalized.
The disparity is odd.
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I'm just amazed she won her suit. I imagine everything said was at least "arguably" accurate, and it did target a public figure, and it was relevant to public discourse...
I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice:
Ok. Those two things are what is really relevant here.
1. Sue is a limited purpose public figure (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_figure).
This means that the plaintifs have to prove actual malice, which means that even if a legally false statement were made, they have to prove that Carey, in this case, knew the statements were false or had reckless disregard for the truth. (it's almost impossible to prove this)
2. Fair comment on a matter of public interest (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_comment).
I'll just link those two here in case anybody round here gets sued (or would like to know what info to gather up to cover their asses in advance).
All that being said... AFAIK Carey got sued for saying "in my opinion, sue scheff is a crook, con and a fraud"... (opinion is a defense) or something like that. How she lost is... well anybody will lose if they aren't in court to defend themselves. it's really that simple. She never had an opportunity to defend herself.