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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on February 14, 2008, 06:44:19 PM

Title: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: Anonymous on February 14, 2008, 06:44:19 PM
Anyone reading this forum may come to the conclusion that Greg is obsessed with AARC.

Obsession
Definition
An obsession is an unwelcome, uncontrollable, and persistent idea, thought, image, or emotion that a person cannot help thinking even though it creates significant distress or anxiety.

Description
Obsessive ideas seem unnatural or alien to those who have them, but are nevertheless recognized as originating from the person's own thoughts—they are not seen as delusions sent or controlled by an outside party.

Typical obsessions include fear of contamination as from doorknobs or handshakes, worry about leaving things in their proper order, persistent doubts about one's responsible behavior, scary images involving violent acts, and images of sexual acts. People with obsessions may find themselves acting in compulsive ways in largely futile attempts to relieve the anxiety associated with their persistent, unpleasant thoughts. Others suffering from obsessions may try very hard to control or ignore them. It is important to note that legitimate worries about daily concerns—paying bills, studying for exams, keeping a job, interpersonal relationships—are not obsessions. Although they can occasionally be carried to obsessive lengths, these concerns can change with circumstances and, in most cases be controlled, with planning, effort, and action. Obsessions relate to problems that most people would consider far removed from normal, daily events and concerns.
Title: Re: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: ajax13 on February 14, 2008, 07:05:54 PM
"Dispensing of existence. 
The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not.  This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious and they must be converted to the group's ideology.  If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the  members.  Thus, the outside world loses all credibility.  In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also."  (Lifton, 1989)
Title: Re: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: ajax13 on February 14, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: "Greg's brain"
Anyone reading this forum may come to the conclusion that Greg is obsessed with AARC.

"DOCTRINE OVER PERSON
If one questions the beliefs of the group or the leaders of the group, one is made to feel that there is something inherently wrong with them to even question -- it is always "turned around" on them and the questioner/criticizer is questioned rather than the questions answered directly"
http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_articl ... reform.htm (http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_articles/lifton_robert_thoughtreform.htm)
Title: Re: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: Anonymous on February 15, 2008, 08:41:31 AM
Wow! You are the cut and paste king.
Title: Re: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: ajax13 on February 15, 2008, 01:30:50 PM
"Creating a Pawn
A second characteristic of totalistic environments is mystical manipulation or planned spontaneity.  This is a systematic process through which the leadership can create in cult members what I call the psychology of the pawn.  The process is managed so that it appears to arise spontaneously; to its objects it rarely feels like manipulation.  Religious techniques such as fasting, chanting, and limited sleep are used.  Manipulation may take on a special intense quality in a cult for which a particular "chosen" human being is the only source of salvation.  The person of the leader may attract members to the cult, but can also be a source of disillusionment.  If members of the Unification Church, for example, come to believe that Sun Myung Moon, its founder, is associated with the Korean Central Intelligence Agency, they may lose their faith.

Mystical manipulation may also legitimate deception of outsiders, as in the "heavenly deception" of the Unification Church and analogous practices in other cult environments.  Anyone who has not seen the light and therefore lives in the realm of evil can be justifiably deceived for a higher purpose.  For instance, collectors of funds may be advised to deny their affiliation with a cult that has a dubious public reputation."
http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_articl ... mation.htm (http://www.icsahome.com/infoserv_articles/lifton_robert_cultformation.htm)

Does this explain the claims of an 85% success rate, or the claims that AARC is a unique program created by the Wizard?  How about the claims that the Wizard is a psychologist?  All these claims made by AARC, all demonstrably untrue.
Title: Re: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: sicktomystomach on February 15, 2008, 09:42:48 PM
Quote from: "Greg's brain"
Wow! You are the cut and paste king.

This is such a typical comment.

Can't argue with the content, so you fish for anything to distract from the issue.
Title: Re: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2008, 01:36:23 AM
Quote from: "ajax13"
"Dispensing of existence.  
The group has the prerogative to decide who has the right to exist and who does not.  This is usually not literal but means that those in the outside world are not saved, unenlightened, unconscious and they must be converted to the group's ideology.  If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the  members.  Thus, the outside world loses all credibility.  In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also."  (Lifton, 1989)
Title: Re: Greg's AARC Obsession
Post by: Anonymous on August 26, 2008, 10:40:00 AM
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If they do not join the group or are critical of the group, then they must be rejected by the members. Thus, the outside world loses all credibility. In conjunction, should any member leave the group, he or she must be rejected also.

No kidding, so very true. Unfortunately for many kids it's them who leave and the rest of their families remain. Very very sad.