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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: SurvivorEMSR on July 17, 2003, 01:16:00 PM

Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: SurvivorEMSR on July 17, 2003, 01:16:00 PM
I am not disputing the fact that some good may come out of Pathway for some people. Maybe some really were benifited by Pathway. If you are a beneficiary of Pathway, please don't try to convince me how great Pathway is and what a wonderful place it is.

The fact remains that for me it was not a wonderful place. Forget the laws that were broken. Forget the restraining, the yelling and the intimidating confrontations. Forget all of that. Pathway forced me and my parents to believe I had a serious drug problem. This is what I can't get over. How could I be forced to believe something that in the bottom of my heart I knew was not true? What was I supposed to do when I had my parents, other host parents, graduates, staff, therapists and other clients all teamed up against me determined to "help" me get through my "denial?"

I have noticed that most of the arguments in support of Pathway come from current PFC parents, recent graduate parents and from recent client graduates . Seem strange? This reaffirms my belief that brainwashing, to an extent, does go on in Pathway. It took me quite a while to get out of the Pathway bubble, and it took my parents even longer.

I was informed that many changes are being made in Pathway, and I have been invited to attend the open meeting on Friday night. I am also happy to hear that many of our complaints about Pathway are not going unheard. EMSR



I write on this site to communicate with people who have been through the same struggles as I have. It is very much the same as people attending AA, NA or any other support groups. For 26 months I was not able to share ANY of my true feeling for fear of being punished. I really don't want to spend all of my time on this site arguing with supporters of PFC. If PFC was so good to you, start a PFC supporters web-site. Don't bother us.      

[ This Message was edited by: SurvivorEMSR on 2003-07-17 10:17 ]
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Antigen on July 17, 2003, 07:31:00 PM
Hey, EMSR. I didn't 7th step. Right about the time things started getting beyond weird in Sarasota, I split from 5th phase and went through the courts to stay out for the last few months before I came of age.

But I've read from some ppl who did 7th step that there was a term they used to describe 'snapping' out of it. They called it really 7th stepping, as in "so-and-so hasn't really 7th stepped yet."

Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.
George Washington

Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on July 19, 2003, 12:01:00 AM
EMSR-
Did you go to Open Meeting?  What did you think?
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on August 31, 2003, 08:53:00 PM
If you are using this forum for 26 months for your "recovery".  Let me tell you something, friend,  you are not in recovery.  I think I asked this question many months ago.  Do you actively go to AA or NA meetings?
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: butternationalist on September 01, 2003, 01:17:00 PM
Is something wrong in your head anonymous? If you can read you have seen numerous times stated by myself and emsr that we do socially drink. point being that we didnt need pfc in the first place, we just needed to get through adolescene and grow up....or maybe you cant comprehend the words im writing, you can have your mommy translate for you. i post here because this is how i deal with it if youre an alchoholic than handle it like u know how, dont you dare challenge or discount anyones way of dealing with things. that is a pfc-straight rule no.l. respect is excpected.peace---- ::puke:: haha smith
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2003, 03:52:00 PM
My God, you mean people can drink and not be alcoholic, Are you sure?  Pathway has forced this on these kids that they can NEVER take another drink!  I mean I drink a couple of beers a week, a drink with a weekly dinner out and so does my husband.  But we were considered alcoholics by our kid and Pathway>  MODERATION in all things is  the rule. GEEEEEEZ
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 02, 2003, 03:53:00 PM
And don't give me this shit about alcoholism being in your genes, that's another lie we heard. There is absolutely no proof of an alcohol gene.
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2003, 02:18:00 AM
"Moderation in all things, including moderation."

Who said that?!
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2003, 08:13:00 AM
Aristotle said that, we haven't learned much in human behavior since 400 BC. have we.
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: SurvivorEMSR on September 03, 2003, 10:21:00 AM
Please read more carefully before you make your rediculous statements Anonymous. It is very annoying. EMSR
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 03, 2003, 05:27:00 PM
and what do you consider a ridiculous statement?
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: SurvivorEMSR on September 06, 2003, 09:49:00 PM
Quote
On 2003-08-31 17:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"If you are using this forum for 26 months for your "recovery".  Let me tell you something, friend,  you are not in recovery.  I think I asked this question many months ago.  Do you actively go to AA or NA meetings?"


This is the ridiculous statement. It was written in response to something I said, but wait, it has absolutely nothing to do with what I said! If you would read semi-carefully you would see that I am in no need for "recovery," and I make it pretty obvious that I am not an alcoholic or a drug addict. Now, you SHOULD be able to draw the conclusion that I do not, in fact, go to meetings.

Another thing, you are not my friend. I don't know you; you don't even have the decency to leave a name so that I may be able to tell the difference between you and all of the other anonymous posters.

Let's start to use our brains, okay? EMSR
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 06, 2003, 09:50:00 PM
I have to agree with Survivor on this one. Anonymous, you are truely an idiot.
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: butternationalist on September 15, 2003, 07:15:00 PM
Right on ed. im with the big guy to. Face it anonymous posters. yu are fighting a losing battle smith
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2003, 10:37:00 AM
Whats going on at Pathway?  Their web site is shut down. Are they closing?
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2003, 11:14:00 AM
try http://pfcenter.homestead.com/ (http://pfcenter.homestead.com/)




 :eek:
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on November 16, 2003, 11:54:00 PM
how can you bitch at him for not leaving a name? where the fuck is YOUR name?!
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: SurvivorEMSR on November 19, 2003, 02:46:00 PM
:lol:

[ This Message was edited by: SurvivorEMSR on 2004-01-14 09:54 ]
Title: To Pathway Supporters
Post by: Anonymous on January 13, 2004, 05:03:00 PM
i told you to shut the fuck up... bitch