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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on January 01, 2008, 03:39:27 PM
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(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
His email address is drewpoulson@yahoo.com.
His IP address at the time of posting was 67.182.217.161 .
His message was:
You guys all need to buck up and be big kids. You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
If you guys are being serious about this you have some serious mental problems.
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
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The guy is partially right, though. Spanking isnt abusive..... We never spanked our kids but it wouldnt be regarded as abusive if we did. There is a fringe group out there called "no spank" or"Nonspank" which believes that spanking is abusive or some such nonsense, but you are always going to see groups like this pop up to take an unpopular stance. I also dont think someone should spank another persons kid without permission, if that was the original issue.
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Weird, I was just reading about the death of a little boy who was abused by his foster parent, who was a devotee of raising up kids by beating them, some as young as infants, by command of some fanatic (talk about fringe) christian ministry.
The Who, per his usual ignorance, arrogance and pitiful hard-on for blaming kids for bad even abusive parenting, is talking out his ass once again.
FLOGGING FOR GOD: The Pearls Manual of Child Abuse
http://teenadvocatesusa.org/SeanPaddock.html (http://teenadvocatesusa.org/SeanPaddock.html)
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The guy is partially right, though. Spanking isnt abusive..... We never spanked our kids but it wouldnt be regarded as abusive if we did. There is a fringe group out there called "no spank" or"Nonspank" which believes that spanking is abusive or some such nonsense, but you are always going to see groups like this pop up to take an unpopular stance. I also dont think someone should spank another persons kid without permission, if that was the original issue.
Lets see... how obvious can we get.
Nospank is very much against programs, so TheWho is quick to attack them right off the bat :rofl: by saying its nonsense and unpopular instead of actually engaging in a dialectic.
TheWho is also very quick to sate both non spankers, and spanker's who need to be patted on the back for ritualized torture of kids because they're bad parents, because he needs both groups to listen to his shit to keep getting his paychecks.
Obvious troll is OBVIOUS, dude. SHARE NOTES WITH THE OTHER NEWWHOS!
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The guy is partially right, though. Spanking isnt abusive..... We never spanked our kids but it wouldnt be regarded as abusive if we did. There is a fringe group out there called "no spank" or"Nonspank" which believes that spanking is abusive or some such nonsense, but you are always going to see groups like this pop up to take an unpopular stance. I also dont think someone should spank another persons kid without permission, if that was the original issue.
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It should be noted, child torturer, that we're not discussing spanking "children". We’re discussing "spanking" young men and women- adolescents. As an adolescent, for the most part, people have reached their intellectual (though not psychological,) maturity. "Spanking" a teen, therefore, has the same meaning, emotionally, and mentally, as "spanking" you.
Spanking kids is justified by the idea that because kids are pre-verbal, the only way to get them to grasp a concept is hitting them. Adolescents are obviously not pre-verbal, and such justification is no longer rational. Why don’t we just start spanking factory workers and office employees while we’re at it. So fucking gross
Not surprising though, that a pro child torturer, like the who, calls a group dedicated to ending the beating of children a "fringe group"
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Weird, I was just reading about the death of a little boy who was abused by his foster parent, who was a devotee of raising up kids by beating them, some as young as infants, by command of some fanatic (talk about fringe) christian ministry.
The Who, per his usual ignorance, arrogance and pitiful hard-on for blaming kids for bad even abusive parenting, is talking out his ass once again.
FLOGGING FOR GOD: The Pearls Manual of Child Abuse
http://teenadvocatesusa.org/SeanPaddock.html (http://teenadvocatesusa.org/SeanPaddock.html)
I should have anticipated someone here taking that stand. Leave it to the fornits regular herself to take spanking to mean killing your own kids…. So now spanking is abusive because someone beat their kids to death… beautiful.. go figure. What are you going to try to tell us next that bathing our kids is abusive also? Oh!! Wait you can. There was a woman who bathed her kids to death, “Andrea Yatesâ€
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Some parents might choose to spank a young child as part of thier disciplinary approach. Others are opposed to this and use time-out or other techniques. To each his own, as long as they are parenting in a loving and caring manner -- not abusing, not neglecting.
But spanking a post-pubescent teen, however gently, might be borderline or overt sexual abuse. That's way over the line by any philosophy of parenting.
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(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
His email address is drewpoulson@yahoo.com.
His IP address at the time of posting was 67.182.217.161 .
His message was:
You guys all need to buck up and be big kids. You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
If you guys are being serious about this you have some serious mental problems.
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
if you make it a forum where you can post anon, they will come
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if you make it a forum where you can post anon, they will come
*sighs* Fine. Granted. Let's see what happens.
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(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
His email address is drewpoulson@yahoo.com.
His IP address at the time of posting was 67.182.217.161 .
His message was:
You guys all need to buck up and be big kids. You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
If you guys are being serious about this you have some serious mental problems.
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
if you make it a forum where you can post anon, they will come
So what's the current legal status of posting people's ip in an "anon" context? And for that matter, other personal information?
I realize that legislation addressing this is "in-the-process" but I don't know whether it's passed yet or not.
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(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
His email address is drewpoulson@yahoo.com.
His IP address at the time of posting was 67.182.217.161 .
His message was:
You guys all need to buck up and be big kids. You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
If you guys are being serious about this you have some serious mental problems.
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
if you make it a forum where you can post anon, they will come
So what's the current legal status of posting people's ip in an "anon" context? And for that matter, other personal information?
I realize that legislation addressing this is "in-the-process" but I don't know whether it's passed yet or not.
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(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
His email address is drewpoulson@yahoo.com.
His IP address at the time of posting was 67.182.217.161 .
His message was:
You guys all need to buck up and be big kids. You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
If you guys are being serious about this you have some serious mental problems.
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
if you make it a forum where you can post anon, they will come
So what's the current legal status of posting people's ip in an "anon" context? And for that matter, other personal information?
I realize that legislation addressing this is "in-the-process" but I don't know whether it's passed yet or not.
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(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
His email address is drewpoulson@yahoo.com.
His IP address at the time of posting was 67.182.217.161 .
His message was:
You guys all need to buck up and be big kids. You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
If you guys are being serious about this you have some serious mental problems.
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
if you make it a forum where you can post anon, they will come
So what's the current legal status of posting people's ip in an "anon" context? And for that matter, other personal information?
I realize that legislation addressing this is "in-the-process" but I don't know whether it's passed yet or not.
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(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
His email address is drewpoulson@yahoo.com.
His IP address at the time of posting was 67.182.217.161 .
His message was:
You guys all need to buck up and be big kids. You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
If you guys are being serious about this you have some serious mental problems.
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
if you make it a forum where you can post anon, they will come
So what's the current legal status of posting people's ip in an "anon" context? And for that matter, other personal information?
I realize that legislation addressing this is "in-the-process" but I don't know whether it's passed yet or not.
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So what's the current legal status of posting people's ip in an "anon" context?
Not quite up there with reposting the same thing 5 or 6 times. You are really annoying.
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Some parents might choose to spank a young child as part of thier disciplinary approach. Others are opposed to this and use time-out or other techniques. To each his own, as long as they are parenting in a loving and caring manner -- not abusing, not neglecting.
Its difficult to get everyone to agree, some here feel time-outs are a form of isolation and therfore abusive.
But spanking a post-pubescent teen, however gently, might be borderline or overt sexual abuse. That's way over the line by any philosophy of parenting.
I agree here.
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But spanking a post-pubescent teen, however gently, might be borderline or overt sexual abuse. That's way over the line by any philosophy of parenting.
I agree here.
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You ought to tell the other guy on your account that, because the original post clearly mentioned that "these are grown boys". And they are. The post was a reply involving the Magnolia Christian Center.
Jesus Who, you've gone from inconsistent to downright schizophrenic. Don't tell me the writers' strike has affected the people writing your posts?
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But spanking a post-pubescent teen, however gently, might be borderline or overt sexual abuse. That's way over the line by any philosophy of parenting.
I agree here.
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You ought to tell the other guy on your account that, because the original post clearly mentioned that "these are grown boys". And they are. The post was a reply involving the Magnolia Christian Center.
Jesus Who, you've gone from inconsistent to downright schizophrenic. Don't tell me the writers' strike has affected the people writing your posts?
I dont see where it was mentioned that the boys were post puberty and were spanked ever so gently, this is what thewho was refering to. I think you should reread the posts again.
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But spanking a post-pubescent teen, however gently, might be borderline or overt sexual abuse. That's way over the line by any philosophy of parenting.
I agree here.
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You ought to tell the other guy on your account that, because the original post clearly mentioned that "these are grown boys". And they are. The post was a reply involving the Magnolia Christian Center.
Jesus Who, you've gone from inconsistent to downright schizophrenic. Don't tell me the writers' strike has affected the people writing your posts?
You should read the thread before responding. This is not about the "Magnolia Christian Center" you must be thinking of another thread, look at the OP. The original post did not say the boys were "post-pubescent teens" or that they were in a program of any sort. The post mentioned they were grown boys which could mean toddlers and up. The post didnt mention the type of process used, gentle, harsh, paddle etc., just a spanking.
You are pissed, I would guess, because I slighted the "Nospank" people and exposed them here at fornits as a fringe group, which they are. It seems many fornits people like nospank because they can add spanking to their list of abuses.
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Ok, crazy losers who and anon, here is where the op mentions that the "spankings" are being given to "grown boys"
(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
Also, as everyone chimes in that in relation to the spankings under discussion your not giving them to "chikdren" but young adults, it's pretty obvious, I guess, what's being referenced
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Ok, crazy losers who and anon, here is where the op mentions that the "spankings" are being given to "grown boys"
(Yeah, it's a mostly dead forum, but...)
You want to kill the guy for giving someone a spanking, three measly spankings?
Receiving a spanking does not constitute abuse, especially if it is only three and these are grown boys, buck up
Also, as everyone chimes in that in relation to the spankings under discussion your not giving them to "chikdren" but young adults, it's pretty obvious, I guess, what's being referenced
Go back and read the posts again, no one disputed they were not grown boys, which could mean anywhere above infant and up. But nothing was mentioned about kids in a program or post puberty, or the type of spanking. Just boys being spanked, no one mentioned young adults. It seems everything needs to be stretched to meet some kind of agenda and make it look like abuse.
I can see why thewho gets so frustrated with you people.
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No one cares what the WHo thinks anyway.
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Spanking a toddler on the butt to get their attention when they've done something dangerous due to their young age and lack of cognitive ability is a lot different than buying some pvc pipe and turning it into a weapon of abuse. Or taking off the belt and whipping the child senseless.
To contend that No Spank is a fringe group and therefore not to be taken seriously is ridiculous. Spankings in the schoolhouse is an assinine and humilating form of discipline and should be banned nationwide.
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Spanking a toddler on the butt to get their attention when they've done something dangerous due to their young age and lack of cognitive ability is a lot different than buying some pvc pipe and turning it into a weapon of abuse. Or taking off the belt and whipping the child senseless.
Exactly, just like giving a child a bath and forcing their head underwater are 2 different things.
Spanking isnt something that is abusive, but it is something that can become abusive.
To contend that No Spank is a fringe group and therefore not to be taken seriously is ridiculous. Spankings in the schoolhouse is an assinine and humilating form of discipline and should be banned nationwide.
To attempt to ban spanking in certain arenas and try to define what is appropriate for different age groups is a worthwhile cause. It will raise awareness and will educate those who are looking for guidance in areas of child rearing.
I just don’t think that people should attempt to reach into other peoples households and try to tell them how to raise their children. I bet the nospank people would be the first ones to criticize the parents who need to send their kids to a program or wilderness because the kids never had any discipline. You need to create a good balance and not try to preach too much to others is all I am trying to say.
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I love how this thread has gone the course of taking the entire thread out of context from the TK forum. The person who posted on TK posted in support for Magnolia Baptist Center/or whatever the hell they call the dump, near Bethel Mississippi. This school applies corporal punishment, in the name of god of course, to batter their charges into submission.
These are not love taps being applied. Nor are they a light slap to the back of the hand.
They are a very ugly beating of a child with a paddle.
The post on TK was not to support the parents right to disciplining their children, and nor was it regarding the rights of parents to discipline their children within the confines of the law.
I fully support the web admin, who I personally choose for TK, and endorse his actions. In the future all further supporters of child abuse who post on TK will be outted in similiar fashion.
Child Abusers and supporters of child abuse beware you ARE NOT welcome at TK.
Of course the rest of you are encouraged to post, and I do believe the web admin has activated the anon feature.
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YOUR WEBSITE LOOKS PROMISING!
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hey, you can't post anon anymore on your site
What happened?
I was posting there...i don't like to log in....
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One very persistent troll changed my mind about guest posting. My time and the time of the admins is limited. Once a moderation staff is in place I may reconsider the guest posting privvies.
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why not just ban them, in particular?
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or just let the troll post, and at the end of the day erase their messages.
People won't post without the anon feature
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posting does happen.. just not in public. Frankly I'm more inclined to go with the guest feature being deactivated for right now. Perhaps in a bit I'll make a catergory that allows guest posting.
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I have a toddler, and have never referred to him as a "grown boy". Big boy, yes. "Grown boy" is indicitave of having completed the growing process.