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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: psy on December 21, 2007, 11:55:19 PM
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Does anybody know of any programs in argentina? It might be spanish speaking only. Does anybody speak spanish and want to research this.
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I speak the spanish.
And have some friends down that side of the hemisphere.
Some good friends.
Call on me.
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is that the elan spin off?
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is that the elan spin off?
They even use pretty much the same tree for their logo when I visited the site.
In case this is what you are looking for, psy, a relevant Elan thread is here:
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21275 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?t=21275)
Link to "alleged" spin off site:
www.ibicuy.com (http://www.ibicuy.com)
Misc. pidgin translations:*Therapeutic Community for the treatment of addictions;
*Problems of juveniles and adolescents that are generally associated with the consumption of drugs;
*Founded in 1986.
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There has been a not bad rate of sucess in running programs out of foreign countries. Everywhere wwasp has opened outside of USA has shut except Jamaica. Campbell park in NZ lasted like 30 seconds.
Only Western Samoa seems to have embraced programs. I have drafted a proforma letter and hope get it translated by a spanish speaking friend. If Authorities are pre alerted hopefully they will take seriously complaints.
To whom it may concern
I am writing to express my concern about a school that has opened up in your country which you can find at the following website www.ibicuy.com (http://www.ibicuy.com).
This school is based very closely on an American school for troubled and drug abusing adolescents called Elan. This school has been criticised by several ex students for following a model which isolates them completely from the wider community and severely limits any contact with their family and friends. This means that in the event of any abuse that may occur the student is unable to independently report it for proper investigation.
For 25 years the same school employed a disciplinary practice known as The Ring. This involved having all the students form a circle around the miscreant student while they each took a turn physically assaulting that student. It was only abandoned after the New York times did an expose on this. There has additionally been numerous reports of other extremely harsh and at time abusive practices that have involved public humiliation, deprivation of sleep and corporal punishment. Some of these practices were highighted by former students in a notorious American legal case surrounding one of Elan’s old scholars, a man named Michael Skatel.
There have also been concerns in the US about the fact that the school does not place enough emphasis on providing students with an adequate level of academic qualification to provide appropriate grounding for university study. Because most days are spent in what the school refers to as therapy students have been expected to mostly conduct academic lessons in the evenings after dinner. This only allows for around four hours a night to complete both lessons and homework.
Another concern expressed by many about the Elan school in the US is it’s admission criteria. Often students are not commited by doctors who deem them a danger to themselves or by courts who are penalizing antisocial acts but by parents, psychologists and educators. This means that students as essentially incarcerated without trial or due process for an indefinite period of time.
I strongly urge you to have the approprate authorities investigate the practices of this school and to fully inform parents of the allegations surrounding it’s American cousin Elan.
Yours Sincerely
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I don't think this is the program Psy is thinking about.
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Well could the letter be rearranged a little to be made appropriate for a generic place?
In the event that it is not perhaps it is an idea to highlight this place at any rate. bable fish translation is as follows. Any spanish speakers who can do better should
A quien pueda interesar Estoy escribiendo para expresar mi preocupación por una escuela que se ha abierto en su paÃs que usted puede encontrar en el Web site siguiente www.ibicuy.com (http://www.ibicuy.com). Esta escuela se basa muy de cerca en una escuela americana para preocupado y la droga que abusa de los adolescentes llamados Elan. Esta escuela ha sido criticada por varios estudiantes exes para después de un modelo que los aÃsla totalmente de la comunidad más ancha y limita seriamente cualquier contacto con su familia y amigos. Esto significa que en el acontecimiento de cualquier abuso que puede ocurrir el estudiante no puede divulgarlo independientemente para la investigación apropiada. Por 25 años la misma escuela empleó una práctica disciplinaria conocida como el anillo. Esto implicó el tener de toda la forma de los estudiantes un cÃrculo alrededor del estudiante miscreant mientras que cada uno tomaron una vuelta que asaltaba fÃsicamente a ese estudiante. Fue abandonada solamente después de la Nueva York que los tiempos hicieron una exposición en esto. Ha habido además informes numerosos del otro extremadamente áspero y en las prácticas abusivas del tiempo que han implicado humillación pública, la privación del sueño y el castigo corporal. Algunas de estas prácticas eran highighted por los ex-estudiantes en un caso legal americano notorio que rodeaba a uno de los viejos eruditos de Elan’s, hombre nombrado Michael Skatel. También ha habido preocupaciones en los E.E.U.U. por el hecho de que la escuela no pone bastante énfasis en proveer de estudiantes un nivel adecuado de la calificación académica para proporcionar poner a tierra adecuado para el estudio de la universidad. Porque la mayorÃa de los dÃas están pasados en a lo que se refiere la escuela como se ha esperado que los estudiantes de la terapia conduzcan sobre todo lecciones académicas por las tardes después de la cena. Esto permite solamente alrededor cuatro horas a la noche para terminar lecciones y la preparación. Otra preocupación expresada por muchos por la escuela de Elan en los E.E.U.U. es criterios de la admisión de los it’s. Los estudiantes no están a menudo commited por los doctores que los juzgan un peligro a sà mismos o por las cortes que están penalizando actos antisociales pero por los padres, los psicólogos y los educadores. Esto significa que los estudiantes según lo esencialmente incarcerated sin el proceso de ensayo o debido por un perÃodo del tiempo indefinido. Le impulso fuertemente tener las autoridades del approprate para investigar las prácticas de esta escuela y para informar completamente a los padres las alegaciones que rodean a primo americano Elan de los its. Sinceramente
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I don't think this is the program Psy is thinking about.
Would it perchance be this one, called Pathways Argentina?
New CEDU spin-off found in Argentina
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27247 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27247)[/list]
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There are two programs in the Argentina category (http://http://wiki.fornits.com/index.php?title=Category:Argentina)
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I don't think this is the program Psy is thinking about.
Would it perchance be this one, called Pathways Argentina?
New CEDU spin-off found in Argentina
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27247 (http://www.fornits.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=27247)[/list]
Could be. Reason I ask is because a kid from Benchmark was in one. He mentioned his parents went to a "premier" seminar, which would point to WWASP, but I did not get the date of that attendance. Are there any spanish marketed WWASP programs in that region we know of?