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Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2007, 04:00:47 AM
Afterwards, did you find that you couldn't deal with your old friends?
Did you have to find friends that were less "desireable". By that I mean, did you hold yourself in lower terms, and search for freinds that were less inteligent, "sucessful", or "normal"

Did your former friends abandon you, as you were too damaged and dark?
Could you no longer relate to them as people?

This happened to a girl I know.

Why would she stop being able to relate to people she once loved, and seek out a "lesser" quality of person?
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Froderik on December 19, 2007, 10:50:10 AM
No, I hung out with the people I used to hang out with before going in. It was a bit awkward at first, but eventually it was almost like I was never gone, if you can believe that... (I was gone for over two years.) I missed some shows that I would have liked to attend..the Bad Brains for one..
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2007, 11:26:04 AM
yup. my highschool freinds shunned me. the only people who i stayed freinds with from my old school was my weed dealer and his click.
i transferred into a finishing school full of kids who were once in programs, and i hung out with them alot.
but once i went to college, i found that all the kids from the finishing school were a bunch of nutcases (involved in hard drugs, serious crimes, just plain stupidity), and i broke off all contact with them.
Once in college, i found freinds. i found that there are ALOT of people who get sent away at some point, and they can relate. in many ways, people looked up to me. it was one of those "watch out, that kid has been through some shit, he's tough as fuck" kind of look. my "hard"ness, along with the leadership i learned in the programs, eventually led to me being the class leader in the fraternity i was pledging.
 i dropped out of the frat during pledging - and although technically they are supposed to shun me for life for that, they treat me like one of their own, still. i explained how the pledge proccess was traumatic and causeing flashbacks due to it's simmilarity to what i went through at my program. so although i'm not even IN their frat technically speaking, i am treated like one of them.
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Froderik on December 19, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
yup. my highschool freinds shunned me.

Then they must not have been very good friends to begin with, eh?
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2007, 01:16:38 PM
I went to a high school after my programs which was 6 hours from my hometown, so I guess I was lucky? It allowed me to start over. I started by changing my name, and left the past behind.

The one thing I found to be very odd, was when I first got out I cried when I needed to call 411 for a telephone number. I was afraid they would think I was stupid since I had never done it before.

Oh, one more thing.........I didn't know how to cross a busy intersection. If the walk sign had turned to stop, I didn't know if it was okay to cross or not? If they had no signs to tell me, I really had to think long, and hard about it. I think that is bizarre since I consider myself to be an intelligent human being.
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: TheWho on December 19, 2007, 01:32:18 PM
My daughter had a very difficult time relating to her friends when she first got home.  She tried fitting in again, smoked pot and drank, but after a few weeks she noticed that they had stood still (didn’t mature at all) the whole time she was gone .  She found herself seeking out new healthier friendships, new school on her own and headed down an entirely different path of her own choosing.  Everyone was extremely proud of her for taking this on.
I think friends would be the biggest challenge for most kids coming out of a program.  
Not relating to your old friends (because you have matured very quickly)and trying to find new friends is a big challenge… social interaction and acceptance is very important at that age.



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Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Froderik on December 19, 2007, 01:35:01 PM
Matured??
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2007, 01:36:51 PM
i'm curious to see if your daughter would say the same thing.
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: TheWho on December 19, 2007, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
i'm curious to see if your daughter would say the same thing.

That wasnt all observation, these were mostly her words and thoughts...



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Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Botched Programming on December 19, 2007, 01:51:30 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
My daughter had a very difficult time relating to her friends when she first got home.  She tried fitting in again, smoked pot and drank, but after a few weeks she noticed that they had stood still (didn’t mature at all) the whole time she was gone .  She found herself seeking out new healthier friendships, new school on her own and headed down an entirely different path of her own choosing.  Everyone was extremely proud of her for taking this on.
I think friends would be the biggest challenge for most kids coming out of a program.  
Not relating to your old friends (because you have matured very quickly)and trying to find new friends is a big challenge… social interaction and acceptance is very important at that age.



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That's because the brainwashing went too deep.... the program made her think it was wrong for her to associate with her old friends. Having been tucked away for a while the outside world goes on and the person in a program is the one who is stuck.

It's almost like having a feeling of being exiled.... You are not normal like everyone else any longer. And no matter how much time goes by, that feeling remains in your gut forever.
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: TheWho on December 19, 2007, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: ""Botched Programming""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
My daughter had a very difficult time relating to her friends when she first got home.  She tried fitting in again, smoked pot and drank, but after a few weeks she noticed that they had stood still (didn’t mature at all) the whole time she was gone .  She found herself seeking out new healthier friendships, new school on her own and headed down an entirely different path of her own choosing.  Everyone was extremely proud of her for taking this on.
I think friends would be the biggest challenge for most kids coming out of a program.  
Not relating to your old friends (because you have matured very quickly)and trying to find new friends is a big challenge… social interaction and acceptance is very important at that age.



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That's because the brainwashing went too deep.... the program made her think it was wrong for her to associate with her old friends. Having been tucked away for a while the outside world goes on and the person in a program is the one who is stuck.

It's almost like having a feeling of being exiled.... You are not normal like everyone else any longer. And no matter how much time goes by, that feeling remains in your gut forever.


Thats too bad it had that effect on you.  My daughters program basically allowed her to mature quickly by giving her a safe enviornment to grow in and when she got home she was more mature than many kids her age.  
Its like if you were a senior in highschool and you went back to visit friends who were still stuck in Freshmen year it would be difficult to relate and you would probably move on after a few weeks which is what she did.



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Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Botched Programming on December 19, 2007, 02:11:51 PM
I feel sorry for you Who ...... You don't have to remain stuck in brainwashing the parents side of the program was subjected to.

We can help you muddle out of the brainwashing, but you have to want our help.

The programming that you received makes you think that what you done was right, not only that but maybe your financial ties to the industry makes it hard for you to break through.

Denial, justification, the insidious need to use cult speak are all signs of parental brainwash. I will pray that the truth open your eyes.

When is the last time you spoke to your therapist??? You should tell them about your obsession with coming to Fornits and spreading propaganda. Good counseling and possibly meds will help you recover.
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: TheWho on December 19, 2007, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: ""Botched Programming""
I feel sorry for you Who ...... You don't have to remain stuck in brainwashing the parents side of the program was subjected to.

We can help you muddle out of the brainwashing, but you have to want our help.

The programming that you received makes you think that what you done was right, not only that but maybe your financial ties to the industry makes it hard for you to break through.

Denial, justification, the insidious need to use cult speak are all signs of parental brainwash. I will pray that the truth open your eyes.

When is the last time you spoke to your therapist??? You should tell them about your obsession with coming to Fornits and spreading propaganda. Good counseling and possibly meds will help you recover.


Amen, Thanks Botched.
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on December 19, 2007, 02:28:12 PM
This is not the writing of a grown adult who has a child over the age of 18.

Thats too bad it had that effect on you. My daughters program basically allowed her to mature quickly by giving her a safe enviornment to grow in and when she got home she was more mature than many kids her age.
Its like if you were a senior in highschool and you went back to visit friends who were still stuck in Freshmen year it would be difficult to relate and you would probably move on after a few weeks which is what she did.

get out of here - go back to your cubicle and work on your TPS reports you corporate slave
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: TheWho on December 19, 2007, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: ""dishdutyfugitive""
This is not the writing of a grown adult who has a child over the age of 18.

Thats too bad it had that effect on you. My daughters program basically allowed her to mature quickly by giving her a safe enviornment to grow in and when she got home she was more mature than many kids her age.
Its like if you were a senior in highschool and you went back to visit friends who were still stuck in Freshmen year it would be difficult to relate and you would probably move on after a few weeks which is what she did.

get out of here - go back to your cubicle and work on your TPS reports you corporate slave


It is obvious you never attended a program and are only here to stir up crap.. you had your fun now go back to highschool or get your GED.  Let the rest of us, who know about TBS's, do the posting and quit trolling.


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Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on December 19, 2007, 03:07:04 PM
Ask me any question about RMA.

Or should I tell you that Lisa Carey, Brett Carey's wife has a small "A" cup and ran marathons. Brett worked at MBA from 92-97 then headed out in a van to ASR. Brett and lisa met at college back east playing frisbee.

Rea Kreider was at ASR at the same time, his wife, Sharon taught ballet/dance at RMA until 1991.

I know that Joe Sweeney a staff at RMA until around 91 fucked a horse and disclosed it in raps.

There were 4 sets of sinks in the dishroom in the house at RMA.  The room was symmetrical. The table in front of it is where they put the meal milk. Above it were pictures of graduates photos.

The walk in freezer was on the left down the back hall and the black cast iron wood stoves were on the right.

Doug Kim Brown had a dog named ABE. his house is up north of BFerry.

Mare Dubovich had a wonderful little son named, Luka, he was about  5 when I was there. He had problems with his vision.

The ram at the farm - his name was rambo. We used to provoke him and the jump up and grab the rafters when he got close.

The greenhouse at the farm -well Alex was in charge of building that.

Peter Blair worked at the nearby nursery when he was an older student. The same nursery that the guy from "the falcon and the snowman" briefly worked at.

Our soccer jerseys were yellow and blue. Rea krieder was the coach . Mike strader who works with Adam up in Maine was the goalie.
Tim Dahlen was the spoiled brat wanna be center forward. Adam rainer played midfield. Adam started and runs Shortridge in Maine

http://www.shortridgeacademy.com/home.a ... nd%20Staff (http://www.shortridgeacademy.com/home.asp?Page=Faculty%20and%20Staff)

Mike Strader works for Adam - Bruce wilson does too.

email adam mike or bruce a copy of this and they'll confirm only a grad knows this

Hannah Mariotti
Director of Admissions and Marketing
(603) 755-3096 x100
(603)755-9096 (fax)
hmariotti@shortridgeacademy.com



have fun douching your bag you inbred.
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: TheWho on December 19, 2007, 03:22:51 PM
Quote from: ""dishdutyfugitive""
Ask me any question about RMA.

Or should I tell you that Lisa Carey, Brett Carey's wife has a small "A" cup and ran marathons. Brett worked at MBA from 92-97 then headed out in a van to ASR. Brett and lisa met at college back east playing frisbee.

Rea Kreider was at ASR at the same time, his wife, Sharon taught ballet/dance at RMA until 1991.

I know that Joe Sweeney a staff at RMA until around 91 fucked a horse and disclosed it in raps.

There were 4 sets of sinks in the dishroom in the house at RMA.  The room was symmetrical. The table in front of it is where they put the meal milk. Above it were pictures of graduates photos.

The walk in freezer was on the left down the back hall and the black cast iron wood stoves were on the right.

Doug Kim Brown had a dog named ABE. his house is up north of BFerry.

Mare Dubovich had a wonderful little son named, Luka, he was about  5 when I was there. He had problems with his vision.

The ram at the farm - his name was rambo. We used to provoke him and the jump up and grab the rafters when he got close.

The greenhouse at the farm -well Alex was in charge of building that.

Peter Blair worked at the nearby nursery when he was an older student. The same nursery that the guy from "the falcon and the snowman" briefly worked at.

Our soccer jerseys were yellow and blue. Rea krieder was the coach . Mike strader who works with Adam up in Maine was the goalie.
Tim Dahlen was the spoiled brat wanna be center forward. Adam rainer played midfield. Adam started and runs Shortridge in Maine

http://www.shortridgeacademy.com/home.a ... nd%20Staff (http://www.shortridgeacademy.com/home.asp?Page=Faculty%20and%20Staff)

Mike Strader works for Adam - Bruce wilson does too.

email adam mike or bruce a copy of this and they'll confirm only a grad knows this

Hannah Mariotti
Director of Admissions and Marketing
(603) 755-3096 x100
(603)755-9096 (fax)
hmariotti@shortridgeacademy.com



have fun douching your bag you inbred.


You just cut and pasted that from a myspace page.  I saw that last month.  Nice try.



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Title: Who ain't even an amateur.
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on December 19, 2007, 03:25:00 PM
double post
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on December 19, 2007, 03:27:40 PM
Parents read myspace?
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on December 19, 2007, 03:29:01 PM
double post
Title: Hired gun
Post by: dishdutyfugitive on December 19, 2007, 05:21:27 PM
Bad Brains  Hired Gun fucking rocks - listen to it. It's the last 3 minutes of the 9 minute video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGBCjLqk6Cw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGBCjLqk6Cw)

Hired gun
Hired gun for sale
Hired gun, on the run
He won't fail

Requesting quick, they asked the people
Where's the hired gunman's trail?
He turned into a dark, cold corner
His is the face that is so pale

Hired gun
He's on the run
He has no fun, no

Please sit down, services rendered
Now we must decide the pay
Bargains to bribes, broken agreement
So much more had but to pray
Next a scam to execute, but a bit too cute
So if you're looking for adventure
Go check the hired gun for sale

Hired gun
He's on the run
Better watch out, boy
'cause he don't know fun

Hired gun for sale
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: stina on December 19, 2007, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
You just cut and pasted that from a myspace page.  I saw that last month.  Nice try....


:wstupid:
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: TheWho on December 19, 2007, 07:48:29 PM
Quote from: ""stina""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
You just cut and pasted that from a myspace page.  I saw that last month.  Nice try....

:wstupid:


That was a dumb thing to do, I agree.... not too original.



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Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: Anonymous on December 19, 2007, 07:49:59 PM
Quote from: ""Botched Programming""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
My daughter had a very difficult time relating to her friends when she first got home.  She tried fitting in again, smoked pot and drank, but after a few weeks she noticed that they had stood still (didn’t mature at all) the whole time she was gone .  She found herself seeking out new healthier friendships, new school on her own and headed down an entirely different path of her own choosing.  Everyone was extremely proud of her for taking this on.
I think friends would be the biggest challenge for most kids coming out of a program.  
Not relating to your old friends (because you have matured very quickly)and trying to find new friends is a big challenge… social interaction and acceptance is very important at that age.



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That's because the brainwashing went too deep.... the program made her think it was wrong for her to associate with her old friends. Having been tucked away for a while the outside world goes on and the person in a program is the one who is stuck.

It's almost like having a feeling of being exiled.... You are not normal like everyone else any longer. And no matter how much time goes by, that feeling remains in your gut forever.


No, it wasn't the brainwashing. Don't get me wrong, the child embraced the idea that she was an addict, though the most she'd ever done was smoke pot, perhaps once. But she wasn't to the point in the brainwashing spectrum where she beleived herseld "recovered". Rather, she tried to fufill her identity as a "drug addict". She truly embraced this persona for herself. It wrenches my soul like a rag, and devoid of blood, we lie together on the cold tile of the bathroom floor with our eyes closed forever
Title: Interacting with humanity after program
Post by: stina on December 20, 2007, 12:44:37 AM
Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""stina""
Quote from: ""TheWho""
You just cut and pasted that from a myspace page.  I saw that last month.  Nice try....

:wstupid:

That was a dumb thing to do, I agree.... not too original.



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Stop trying to bro out with me. You're a jackass and we're not friends. And your matrix is complete bullshit. Yeah. I said it.