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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Che Gookin on December 07, 2007, 06:20:29 PM
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I'm looking for flyers, handouts, booklets off various sorts to be hosted on the YLF website so that others can use them as they see fit. If you have a flyer you'd like to see spread around at a protest or in public please send it to me.
There are certain obvious limits as to what I'm willing to post on the YLF website due to not wanting to have to relocate my hosting. All informative, well written, and properly formatted submissions will be given proper consideration.
They can be program specific flyers...
They can be flyers targetting parents..
They can be general information flyers that provide links to websites..
etc etc..
Just try to remember that if you don't catch the average person's attention in the first few sentences more than likely the flyer is going to end up in the trash. Keep them brief and specific for your intended audience. If you intend them for program kids you might want to avoid suggesting the are all drug addicts and deserving of their incarceration. If they are parents you may want to avoid attempting to shame them into submission.
The general public, I'm convinced anyway, just wants loads of blood and gore.
I know coverguard posted a letter sometime ago that was an insanely genius device for reaching kids in schools. Can't remember where it is or what became of it.
Private message them to me or at aseymour1975@yahoo.com
Thank you.
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I am aware there are some inherent dangers in this but have you thought of listing some genuine local avenues for parents to get help instead of programs. Many parents claim a program was the go because of a lack of local options.
My only concern would be a local service that looks ok but refers to programs.
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That’s a good point OzGirl.. if parents could be made aware of the various local services.. phone numbers, agencies that are available to them I am sure they would look into it (if they didn’t already know) before seeking help outside the home.
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I am aware there are some inherent dangers in this but have you thought of listing some genuine local avenues for parents to get help instead of programs. Many parents claim a program was the go because of a lack of local options.
My only concern would be a local service that looks ok but refers to programs.
I neither have the qualifications or the inclination to reccomend clinical options. I have no problem pointing out the inherent dangers and flaws of the TBS/Boot Camp/Etc. system as I know a thing or two about it.
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Here is the best I could come up with in about 30 minutes:
The Youth Liberation Foundation would like a moment of your time to consider the following:
The constitution doesn’t automatically apply to children in programs. A man, woman, or child convicted by the government has constitutional rights to a lawyer and a trail by their peers.
The same is NOT the case for children in a program.
Children are denied a day in court.
Children are denied a lawyer to represent them.
Children are denied an independent medical evaluation.
Children are denied an appeal.
Children in private programs are often given the following:
Medical Neglect.
Physical, mental, and emotional abuse.
Substandard living conditions.
Meals that often don’t satisfy the minimum nutritional requirements.
Very little to no contact at all with their families.
Psychological care that is often very harmful.
Physical injuries.
Death.
These private programs often prey on desperate parents. They use high pressure sales tactics that pushes the notion that the child involved will not survive unless they are made to attend the program. Programs use these tactics to increase the number of children in their program to make more money, and most certainly they do not use them to help children.
Please visit the following websites for more information:
http://www.isaccorp.org/ (http://www.isaccorp.org/)
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.c ... tPage.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/FrontPage.html)
http://www.youth-liberation.com (http://www.youth-liberation.com)
http://www.fornits.com/wwf (http://www.fornits.com/wwf)
http://www.heal-online.org (http://www.heal-online.org)
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Oz Girl wrote:
I am aware there are some inherent dangers in this but have you thought of listing some genuine local avenues for parents to get help instead of programs. Many parents claim a program was the go because of a lack of local options.
My only concern would be a local service that looks ok but refers to programs.
I had a similar instinct that we need to speak to how desperate the parents feel about getting help. The education consultants and the schools--our competition--offer a "service" that they advertise as meeting that need. In fact, since the parents only have to deal with the child 15 minutes a week on a monitored call, and a couple weekends a year, viola! Problem out of sight, out of mind, and as far as parents are aware, solved. Parents only come to know about the abusive conditions of the programs later, often years later, if at all.
So I agree the handouts need to offer an alternative. It would be nice if we could offer local resources, but Che makes a good point about not having the time or expertise to vet them, and as Oz Girl points out, what if they are in the habit of referring to programs?. (It concerns me, too, that local resources vary so much by state, and urban vs. rural.) We could at minimum offer hope and reassurance that they can be successful, and do not need to turn to the programs.
I think an offer of some kind of better alternative is a "belly button issue" for a persuasive handout.
Auntie Em
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I'm here to protest not to provide theraputic options. I've seen other organizations go down this road with less than glamourous results. I'd have no problem to offering suggestions in general to the extent of family functional therapy or Multi systematic therapy but in no way am I going to be the person to make specific suggestions.
They call that person Sue Scheff.
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Ever meet a parent or parents who you thought shouldn't be allowed to have a pet hamster let alone children?
Have you ever wanted to go to someone's house and ask them to let you have their children because you were worried that the lack of parenting skills might harm the children?
Have you ever hoped that the jerk who is smacking his/her kid in the supermarket is run over by a bus?
Have you ever said, "Some people ought to have permits to have children!"
http://www.isaccorp.org/[/url]
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.c ... tPage.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/FrontPage.html)
http://www.youth-liberation.com (http://www.youth-liberation.com)
http://www.fornits.com/wwf (http://www.fornits.com/wwf)
http://www.heal-online.org (http://www.heal-online.org)
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Ever meet a parent or parents who you thought shouldn't be allowed to have a pet hamster let alone children?
Have you ever wanted to go to someone's house and ask them to let you have their children because you were worried that the lack of parenting skills might harm the children?
Have you ever hoped that the jerk who is smacking his/her kid in the supermarket is run over by a bus?
Have you ever said, "Some people ought to have permits to have children!"
http://www.isaccorp.org/[/url]
http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.c ... tPage.html (http://www.teenadvocatesusa.homestead.com/FrontPage.html)
http://www.youth-liberation.com (http://www.youth-liberation.com)
http://www.fornits.com/wwf (http://www.fornits.com/wwf)
http://www.heal-online.org (http://www.heal-online.org)
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I know somebody that works at Kinkos and can get you killer rates. I'm talking about Full color copies for only 10 cents. You can't find rates like that without being
" in the know."
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I know somebody that works at Kinkos and can get you killer rates. I'm talking about Full color copies for only 10 cents. You can't find rates like that without being
" in the know."
nice... but isn't 10 cents the going rate anyway?
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Attention grabbers for the flyers...
Playing in the snow didn't make you a snowman...
Visiting the Eiffel Tower didn't make you French...
...visiting wherever etc...
Then something along the lines of....an error in judgement didn't make this kid an alcoholic/drug addict...whatever...
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I know somebody that works at Kinkos and can get you killer rates. I'm talking about Full color copies for only 10 cents. You can't find rates like that without being
" in the know."
nice... but isn't 10 cents the going rate anyway?
No. 10 cents is a very cheap rate, you would normally have to buy thousands of pre-paid copies to get that rate. The going rate right now is 35-50 cents, and that's on sale! I was only trying to help but I can take my cheap copies elsewhere if I'm not wanted (which is the feeling I am getting).
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I know somebody that works at Kinkos and can get you killer rates. I'm talking about Full color copies for only 10 cents. You can't find rates like that without being
" in the know."
nice... but isn't 10 cents the going rate anyway?
No. 10 cents is a very cheap rate, you would normally have to buy thousands of pre-paid copies to get that rate. The going rate right now is 35-50 cents, and that's on sale! I was only trying to help but I can take my cheap copies elsewhere if I'm not wanted (which is the feeling I am getting).
Excuse my ignorance regarding the rates at Kinkos. I'm used to getting all the free copying I can stomach here in Korea at my school after hours.
However, this does little for the folks in the USA due to shipping expenses and so on.
fire me an email at aseymour1975@yahoo.com and lets see if we can't sort out some sort of arrangement.
Be nice to come up with some sort of mass mailing campaign or flyer hand out drive.
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if you've found out how to become a non-profit,all the money you spend on supplies for your wonderful organization (thanks che for being such a hero :P :P ) is tax deductable.
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Deleware nonprofit status is being considered. Not sure though.. nonprofit status also requires organization..
To much organization = bloated corpse of useless Nonprofit group
Care to drop any names of orgs we know who are like this?
Don't get me wrong.. I'm more than likely going to do it, but I want to consider the full positives and negatives of the deal first.
Be nice as hell to get donations to use for underwriting protests.
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Has anyone pleaded to Amnesty International?
They are pretty much experts in "getting the word out"
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Not yet, but now that you've mentioned it I'll put it on my list of things to do. In fact I'll put it down in the top five as it really is quite a good suggestion.
thanks for the idea.
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This year is going to be a big year. I predict by 2009 most programs will be shut down, or so heavily regulated no person would ever consider hurting a child. The time has come and change has arrived! This is the year of change. It's almost all over!