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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 21, 2007, 12:51:11 AM
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November 20, 2007
By Tracy Harmon
CANON CITY - A former Royal Gorge Academy director convicted of assault and false imprisonment of two students was sentenced Monday to 25 days in jail and one year on probation.
Randall Hinton, 34, was convicted by a jury Aug. 31 of third-degree assault and false imprisonment.
Hinton was found not guilty of four other assault charges and not guilty on one other false imprisonment charge.
The victims on the convictions, both boys, were attending the private, co-ed school for troubled youth during the past year. One boy sustained a bloody nose, while the other experienced vomiting while being detained in Hinton's office.
"In reading the presentence investigative report I noticed the defendant's lack of any accountability. Discipline is a necessary part of dealing with troubled youth but the defendant had crossed the line and the actions of the defendant were not justified or allowable," argued Deputy District Attorney Thom LeDoux.
When asked by the probation officer what he believed the impact was on the victims, Hinton responded, "I believe they finally realize the importance of their choices and realize if they don't change their ways they will have adults making choices for them," LeDoux read from the report.
When asked what he believed the impact of his crime on the community was, Hinton said he believed parts of the community gained from the incident such as, "the newspaper probably sold more copies."
Fremont County Court Judge Norm Cooling said he found Hinton's answer puzzling and told the defendant "You kind of gave Canon City a black eye."
LeDoux said of Hinton: "He could not have demonstrated he missed the point more so. He said, ‘I, Randall Hinton, believe I did a great job considering all the circumstances involved.’ The defendant should be held accountable and sentenced to a period of incarceration."
Defense Attorney Michael Gillick argued that Hinton has only been consistent with his story throughout the incident. He said Hinton is not a candidate for jail because of his stellar record, and the fact that he is sole provider for his family of four small children and wife, Joy.
Gillick also said Hinton has made it clear he never wants to work with troubled children again and has a job due to start Friday in Cortez as the manager of an automotive company.
Hinton told the judge only that, "It's been very educational," just before he was sentenced.
Cooling said, "The black eye is where you really stepped over the line and I believe this calls for a good balance - some jail as a condition of probation is entirely appropriate." Cooling said he could have sentenced Hinton to between a nine-month to three-year jail sentence, but he opted for 25 days jail and one year probation.
Gillick asked for a short stay of the sentence to allow Hinton time to consider whether he will appeal the case. Hinton was ordered to start the jail sentence Jan. 1.
LeDoux said he will file a request for restitution including cost of prosecution. Both attorneys were given 20 days to file the request and a response.
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Kudos to the teens who testified. I am sorry for their suffering, but grateful for their courage in standing up for their themselves.
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Jesus, the man continues to spout the same sicko bullshit and the judge only gives him 25 days and probation. and apparently nothing to stop him from going right back in there and doing it some more?
"Oh I'm sorry Mr. Hinton, I didn't mean to injure your delicate wrists." :roll:
I hope he gets hammered while he's in there. The jail might last 25 days, but the shattered knee will always be tender, the colon damage and torn sphincter might feel 'right' again after a couple of years, but the emotional scarring of being fucking gangraped in prison will last a fucking lifetime.
Is it possible to send a care package to inmates consisting of extremely rough hemp rope, a gimp mask, and a studded dildo?
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Maybe Hinton will be served "half baked pizza" everyday!
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The victims on the convictions, both boys, were attending the private, co-ed school for troubled youth during the past year. One boy sustained a bloody nose, while the other experienced vomiting while being detained in Hinton's office.
That's pretty lame depiction of the testimonies.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=279801#279801 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=279801#279801)
Gillick also said Hinton has made it clear he never wants to work with troubled children again and has a job due to start Friday in Cortez as the manager of an automotive company.
Will he be a silent partner? Wonder if the abuse of his own kids was brought up. Lacking skill, he resorts to bullying.
Hinton told the judge only that, "It's been very educational," just before he was sentenced.
You mean, the thought of going to jail scared the shit out me. A second conviction might get him long-term jail time.
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Hinton has made it clear he never wants to work with troubled children again
As much as I want to answer this with a simple "GTFO", I wonder if it's because WWASPS threw him out like yesterday's fish bones, as he was proving to be too much of a liability?
If he actually goes on to become the manager of anything I feel sorry for the people working for him. I wonder when the hostile-environment suits will start..?
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Anyone believe Hinton's telling the truth?
He will be right back working in a WWASP program the second his probation is over!
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I believe him.
After being chased from country to country, having your name cursed across the Internet, grown-up victims still fucking hating you even after your beliefs told you they'd love you, and finally your employer saying "IT WAS HIM, NOT US", a reply of "I wash my hands of this whole business" is a perfectly logical reaction to have. He's done.
Which is actually kind of scary. Brainwashed/affected/indoctrinated people usually don't keep these kinds of reactions. Hinton is a true demon; child abuse is a fundamental part of who he is (likely ingrained in him from his own early childhood), and WWASPS simply hired him, not influenced him.
Odds are he's just going to inflict more of it on his own family, assuming he has any left.
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I have to say if I was one of those kids that was physically abused by Randall Hinton I would be calling up every auto dealership in Cortez to locate him.
If someone ever struck me (and I wasn't there so I don't know), I would never let that guy live in peace. Especially if I was one of the kids the courts did not believe yet it really did happen.
Maybe I am going a little overboard?!! But, I'd be upset.
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The victims on the convictions, both boys, were attending the private, co-ed school for troubled youth during the past year. One boy sustained a bloody nose, while the other experienced vomiting while being detained in Hinton's office.
That's pretty lame depiction of the testimonies.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=279801#279801 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=279801#279801)
I agree. And a pretty anemic sentence, too. Hopefully there won't be a second time.
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someone wants him to be abused in prison?do any of you know of what actually happened?were any of you physically there at the school?NO.a claim that he abuses his family.i would love to know where you have gotten this information.
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While living a short time in Boonville, MO, set up by Robert Litchfield, Randall Hinton was reported to the local sheriff?s office for punishing his three-year-old daughter by locking her outside the front door of their home in the evening, when it was cold outside. The child was reported to have been visibly upset and banging on the door as Randall stood right there and watched. When the police arrived on the scene Randall lied and told them that she must have accidentally locked herself out. However, a next door neighbor, who had been the one to make the 911 call, told the sheriff that he was standing there watching her the entire time...
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have you ever personally asked randall to explain that situation to you?did HE PERSONALLY TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED?
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have you ever personally asked randall to explain that situation to you?did HE PERSONALLY TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED?
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someone wants him to be abused in prison?do any of you know of what actually happened?were any of you physically there at the school?NO.a claim that he abuses his family.i would love to know where you have gotten this information.
This site looses a ton of credibility everytime they make claims like this. Its hard to know what to believe or which posts are true.
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I'm ok with Randall getting abused in prison. In fact I encourage anyone who meets him in prison to abuse him. More so I encourage anyone who meets him in prison to abuse him repeatedly.
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i think credibility is lost when someone wishes a traumatizing and brutal event to happen to someone that they dont even know.i worked at the school and was there for the incidents.if you actually knew randall you wouldnt believe any of this.i may not agree with the sentencing but those boys were bold faced liars.and the female student was absolutely out of control.maybe the way he handled the situations is questionable but anybody in that position would have done the same.its so easy for outsiders to stand up for the children.well im here to stand up for the adults that work at these schools.it was the hardest job i ever had.it was so stressful at times.these kids thrive on pushing you to the limit.most did not care what happened to themselves.thats what made me work there.the opportunity to maybe make a difference is a wonderful feeling.you can bash him all you want on here but please get your facts straight.KNOW what you are talking about before you verbally attack somebody and wish upon them horrible things.you are acting no better than the out of control children
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Boo hoo hoo, child torturing cunt likes to whine. Whine, child torturing cunt, whine.
If those kids really didn't care what happened to themselves then your shithole would be full of nothing but corpses, and bloody footprints leading outward.
The only real injustice here is that it's still open. We here at Fornits intend to change that.
You really want to make a difference? Shove a .38 down your throat, loaded with +P+ rounds, and slllooowwwlly squeeze the trigger. Or go gargle that pepper spray your man-bitch loves so much. But I'd go with the .38 if I were you.
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i think credibility is lost when someone wishes a traumatizing and brutal event to happen to someone that they dont even know.i worked at the school and was there for the incidents.if you actually knew randall you wouldnt believe any of this.i may not agree with the sentencing but those boys were bold faced liars.and the female student was absolutely out of control.maybe the way he handled the situations is questionable but anybody in that position would have done the same.its so easy for outsiders to stand up for the children.well im here to stand up for the adults that work at these schools.it was the hardest job i ever had.it was so stressful at times.these kids thrive on pushing you to the limit.most did not care what happened to themselves.thats what made me work there.the opportunity to maybe make a difference is a wonderful feeling.you can bash him all you want on here but please get your facts straight.KNOW what you are talking about before you verbally attack somebody and wish upon them horrible things.you are acting no better than the out of control children
Son I dealt with dozens if not more out of control kids. I've never had to give them a bloody nose and worst to get them under control. Further, I never met Jeffery Dahlmer and I absolutely prayed he would get his in prison. Sure enough the sick freak got shanked in the shower.
Same with Randall.. The COURT of law, something you are having a hard time accepting, has found that cretin guilty. So most certainly, despite the fact I've never met the sick shit, I have high hopes that he gets his ass kicked inside out in the slam.
Now lets go onto my next point.. Out of control children.. What is your issue with them? You do realize that the majority of the reason they act out in program is BECAUSE of the program. You stuff them in a shitheap and treat them like all sorts of ass and what do you expect their response to be?
Oh please Sir.. May I have another??
Not bloodly likely...
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To: a voice from nowhere
do you feel better by lashing out and name calling?do you feel better about yourself?does it make you feel tough to use language like that?if so then you are no better than the kids that lied about randall abusing them.grow up voice.get your facts straight.
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To: a voice from nowhere
do you feel better by lashing out and name calling?do you feel better about yourself?does it make you feel tough to use language like that?if so then you are no better than the kids that lied about randall abusing them.grow up voice.get your facts straight.
Fuck you and your stupid program!
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While living a short time in Boonville, MO, set up by Robert Litchfield, Randall Hinton was reported to the local sheriff?s office for punishing his three-year-old daughter by locking her outside the front door of their home in the evening, when it was cold outside. The child was reported to have been visibly upset and banging on the door as Randall stood right there and watched. When the police arrived on the scene Randall lied and told them that she must have accidentally locked herself out. However, a next door neighbor, who had been the one to make the 911 call, told the sheriff that he was standing there watching her the entire time...
If my child kept going outside at the age of 3 when told repeated times NOT to, I would lock her out too! I might even stand at the door, and watch her cry for a while. I wouldn't leave her unattended, because I wouldn't want something bad to happen to her! Is that cruel? I don't think so.
I think it's possible that he might have done it more out of love, then anything else. The student abuse allegations.....well, I don't know! We have him saying some pretty weird things on video about pepper spray, and pizza's though!
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If my child kept going outside at the age of 3 when told repeated times NOT to, I would lock her out too! I might even stand at the door, and watch her cry for a while. I wouldn't leave her unattended, because I wouldn't want something bad to happen to her! Is that cruel? I don't think so.
As a teen I was witness to an incident like this; it is successful 99% of the time. There's always 1 kid, ya know?! My experience motivated me to the same 'school of thought' as a parent.
I did draw the line @: "if they bite? bite them back!
I also had problems w/my own @toddler age. He used to go from his room to the livingroom and trash the place. That was such a hard time w/him. So for a few months I had a gate across his door to prevent free access to the house. I never felt he was 'locked-in', although I heard lots of disagreement (and not just from him!!)
I had a neighbor who had this problem w/her son. So she locked him out. It wasn't cold or raining, our area is VERY safe; smart kid-walked around to the front porch, slept there, and brags about how cool sleeping outside was :exclaim:
She has 4 kids and all of them be-have (and sleep in the house :rofl: ).
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What the fuck are you doing reproducing in the first place?
I wish the kid went out and played in traffic- it would have stopped his filthy DNA from progressing, and it would have saved the girl a life as the daughter of Randall Hinton.
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If my child kept going outside at the age of 3 when told repeated times NOT to, I would lock her out too! I might even stand at the door, and watch her cry for a while. I wouldn't leave her unattended, because I wouldn't want something bad to happen to her! Is that cruel? I don't think so.
As a teen I was witness to an incident like this; it is successful 99% of the time. There's always 1 kid, ya know?! My experience motivated me to the same 'school of thought' as a parent.
I did draw the line @: "if they bite? bite them back!
I also had problems w/my own @toddler age. He used to go from his room to the livingroom and trash the place. That was such a hard time w/him. So for a few months I had a gate across his door to prevent free access to the house. I never felt he was 'locked-in', although I heard lots of disagreement (and not just from him!!)
I had a neighbor who had this problem w/her son. So she locked him out. It wasn't cold or raining, our area is VERY safe; smart kid-walked around to the front porch, slept there, and brags about how cool sleeping outside was :exclaim:
She has 4 kids and all of them be-have (and sleep in the house :rofl: ).
Yes yes yes. I was definitely that one kid. In spades.
My mom would do the same thing with me. I would get too rambunctious, because I was an incredibly hyper child, so occasionally she would kick me out of the house, either in the front yard or the back, so that I could blow off my hyper steam outside where I wouldn't break anything, including my head on the corner of a table. I guess I was probably around 5 or 6. There really wasn't any chance of abduction, despite the fact that she didn't supervise me, because it was a suburban neighborhood in the 70s.
However, her strategy backfired. One time when she locked me in the backyard, I was so enraged that I smashed in a window with a toy boat. The door flew open and she dragged me back inside. I don't remember what happened next.
One of the other many ways in which I was a problem was that when I was sent to my room, I never stayed there. I mean, I could come and go as I pleased, right? Wrong. After about so much of that, my parents bought one of those child proof plastic sheaths that go over doorknobs, and they put it on the inside of my door, so I couldn't get out. Well, I wanted none of that, so I spent my time banging up my fingers trying to peel the thing off. I think I actually managed to destroy one after quite a bit of work.
It's amazing how illogical children can be in some ways. I mean, in the first scenario, one would think that I would have had a much better time playing outside. More room, fresh air, fort, tree swing, but no, it was the principle of the issue. I was locked out against my wishes, even though had I thought it through, I most likely would have enjoyed myself much more in the backyard.
Same with being sent to my room. I had shitloads of fun things to do in my room. I had a whole mess of books (which I only read when I wasn't supposed to, like when I should have been in bed.) a record player, stuffed animals, the works. But because of the fact that I was *put* there, well, that meant that I refused to be there. Once again, principles before pragmatics.
And I have always been a man of principle. I would much rather be right than happy.
I remember when I first realized I could climb out of my crib, even with the extension bars on. I took a header right onto the floor. Mom ran in, and realized that it was probably best if I got a bed at that point, because there was no sense in my damaging my brain at so young an age, when I had years to do that with heavy drinking and smoking in college. It was much safer for me to fall out of a bed than from a crib, so I won *that* round.
So, I guess I fall into that 1% of children on whom these tactics don't work. My warning to parents is: if you have a child of principle, watch the fuck out, because they don't take shit from anybody. You are probably best off just shoving them into a program when they are of age, because there is obviously nothing else you can do to control them. :roll:
I mean, hell. My parents were a cunt hair away from placing me when I was 5. They toured the facility and everything.
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Good post Castle, Kids definitely do not want to go where they are told. Most of my kids did just the opposite of what they were told to do… if you told them to go to their room they would rather be outside ….if you told them to go outside and play they wanted to play in the house…constant struggle. I found that the kids that resisted the most and fought the hardest (against authority) turned out to be the smarter children out of the bunch… go figure. I had such a hard time with one of mine that no matter what punishment I would throw at him he would just take it… lock him out of the house (like discussed above)..he would just sit there next to the door and try to out last you, pretend it was no big deal…7 o’clock, 8 o’clock tic tic tic he wouldn’t give in or knock on the door…. tell him no ice cream for a week and he would ask if he could have mint chocolate chip in 8 days and then never complain (never learned consequences until he was much older because punishment never bother him and we didn’t believe in hitting our kids)… almost got a shrink for him but he got thru it and turned out to be a smart kid.
I found that every child reacts differently to authority and you have to figure out and adjust your discipline style for each one.
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I thought you were a woman?
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Actually, now that I think about it, something I hadn't considered was the difference in age. Yours was a toddler, seedling, wheras I was 5 or 6, a much much much more belligerent and hard-headed age, which means, harder to discipline.
Which also means, yeah. Best to teach them right when they're young. Absofuckinglutely.
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And I have always been a man of principle. I would much rather be right than happy.
I thought you were a woman?
You're 14 years too late. :rofl:
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Voice
You defending Randall. Apparently you werent around when Randall admitted to Pepper Spraying Lane Brown repeatedly back in the day around 1997-99.
Randall is a person who should NOT work with kids. He's sick IMO......
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Voice: please tell me about Kerry Layne Brown since you seem to know so much about him.go ahead please give details.you can go ahead and google him if you want but i want real details.how did he act?how did he carry himself?tell me personality traits.quit fighting a battle that you KNOW nothing about.you have nothing better to do except attack a person that you dont even know.
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Spirit 23, I am not the poster you directed your question to; but I don't have to know anything about Kerry Layne Brown personally, to know that Hinton had no right to pepper spray this young man on a daily basis. And Hinton admitted he did just that - that he pepper-sprayed this boy daily, and sometimes several times daily!
So, I am not accusing Hinton of anything, that he did not do.
In my opiniion, Hinton is a child abuser, and he has made a good choice to be in the automobile business. NOW, people can choose to do business with him, or not! Kerry Lanyne Brown didn't seem to have a choice, did he?
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Spirit 23, I am not the poster you directed your question to; but I don't have to know anything about Kerry Layne Brown personally, to know that Hinton had no right to pepper spray this young man on a daily basis. And Hinton admitted he did just that - that he pepper-sprayed this boy daily, and sometimes several times daily!
So, I am not accusing Hinton of anything, that he did not do.
Guess that ought to shut this person up.. ? ?
SHEEESH... :evil:
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Spirit 23
I know enough to know what Randall did at TB was illegal, unnecessary and completely out of control.
There isnt any behavior Lane could have exhibited that could justified pepper spraying him repeatedly. Dont waste your time trying to defend it.
If Lane was out of control he should have been in a different enviornment.
I have heard of the tape where Randall admits to his wrong doing. It was not totally "lost' by HB's asssitant. Evidence is evidence.
So get YOUR facts straight. It appears you have been PROGRAMED.
I'll pray for your lost soul. You need to pray for yourself as well.
Evil is as evil does.
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Spirit 23
I know enough to know what Randall did at TB was illegal, unnecessary and completely out of control.
There isnt any behavior Lane could have exhibited that could justified pepper spraying him repeatedly. Dont waste your time trying to defend it.
If Lane was out of control he should have been in a different enviornment.
I have heard of the tape where Randall admits to his wrong doing. It was not totally "lost' by HB's asssitant. Evidence is evidence.
So get YOUR facts straight. It appears you have been PROGRAMED.
I'll pray for your lost soul. You need to pray for yourself as well.
Evil is as evil does.
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What the fuck are you doing reproducing in the first place?
I wish the kid went out and played in traffic- it would have stopped his filthy DNA from progressing, and it would have saved the girl a life as the daughter of Randall Hinton.
See, this is the type of stuff that just does not need to be said IMHO!!!
Anyway, I think it's probably best that Randall get into another line of work. I never knew the guy personally......but, in the Tranquility Bay Documentary he came across as being very sadistic. Perhaps, it's just the way they spliced the video together, I just don't know?
I do have to give Randall props though. Since he has agreed to leave the industry instead of trying to stay in it. It is unfortunate though that a number of kids had to endure this man pepper spraying them, and treating them in the manner in which he did. He only received 25 days in jail though? So, that means that either the courts think that these kids were lying......or that the courts don't care nearly enough about teens rights in general?
I think that Randall's job was not an easy one. I think that it could be extremely challenging at times. It takes a special person to do a job like that, and to do it well. It's tough. However, it is a position in which he chose. Nobody chose it for him.
So hopefully if there are other staff out there in this industry that are reading this, and realize they are doing more harm then good.....hopefully, they will make the right choice, and get out of the business as well.
I'm sure Randall will be monitored for quite some time, and we'll be alerted the second he signs up with another school, or program.
As far as Randall's kids go, whoever said that comment above is one sick individual. It makes you look as bad, if not worse then Randall Hinton himself!
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Did you just defend Randal Hinton?
:rofl:
Its official, CCM's account was stolen by a troll.
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Oh, I think Randall has some unique challenges ahead, alright...
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Hopefully his asslocker get butt burgulared in jail.
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Did you just defend Randal Hinton?
:rofl:
Its official, CCM's account was stolen by a troll.
I don't think I defended him Niles. I just merely said that it is a good thing that he has decided to look for work elsewhere. If you are burnt out, and no longer can perform your job properly then yes, you should leave. If you find you are taking your anger out on those around you, then you need to quit. He did that apparently.
I still do not understand why he got such a light sentence, but whatever! I was not there, and did not hear all the testimony in court. If anyone wants to provide some transcripts, then great.
As far as the video went, he came across as a total prick. But, once again, it just depends who is splicing, and dicing the documentary.
I think he's retarded for even giving the interview.
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I do have to give Randall props though. Since he has agreed to leave the industry instead of trying to stay in it. It is unfortunate though that a number of kids had to endure this man pepper spraying them, and treating them in the manner in which he did. He only received 25 days in jail though? So, that means that either the courts think that these kids were lying......or that the courts don't care nearly enough about teens rights in general?
I think that Randall's job was not an easy one. I think that it could be extremely challenging at times. It takes a special person to do a job like that, and to do it well. It's tough. However, it is a position in which he chose. Nobody chose it for him.
I dunno, you tell me?
I for one am amazed you can put gold leaf on a turd with a keyboard so well, but that's just MY opinion.
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I for one am amazed you can put gold leaf on a turd with a keyboard so well, but that's just MY opinion
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CCM Girl
I think you are missing the point wher Randall's admitted behavior is concerned. IMO, He's not "burnt out" from his job.He had mistreated kids before. He has stated so in his own words.
"Retarded" is an inappropriate term to be used in such a statement. Fool maybe. Ignorant wanna be maybe, but a "retard" would never have done what he admitted to doing .
There's no "sugar coating" this situation. He's guilty as charged and then some. Its not over yet.
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To: a voice from nowhere
do you feel better by lashing out and name calling?do you feel better about yourself?does it make you feel tough to use language like that?if so then you are no better than the kids that lied about randall abusing them.grow up voice.get your facts straight.
Lied?
Like Lane Brown lied?
F*ck you, spirit23.
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What the fuck are you doing reproducing in the first place?
I wish the kid went out and played in traffic- it would have stopped his filthy DNA from progressing, and it would have saved the girl a life as the daughter of Randall Hinton.
See, this is the type of stuff that just does not need to be said IMHO!!!
Anyway, I think it's probably best that Randall get into another line of work. I never knew the guy personally......but, in the Tranquility Bay Documentary he came across as being very sadistic. Perhaps, it's just the way they spliced the video together, I just don't know?
I do have to give Randall props though. Since he has agreed to leave the industry instead of trying to stay in it. It is unfortunate though that a number of kids had to endure this man pepper spraying them, and treating them in the manner in which he did. He only received 25 days in jail though? So, that means that either the courts think that these kids were lying......or that the courts don't care nearly enough about teens rights in general?
I think that Randall's job was not an easy one. I think that it could be extremely challenging at times. It takes a special person to do a job like that, and to do it well. It's tough. However, it is a position in which he chose. Nobody chose it for him.
So hopefully if there are other staff out there in this industry that are reading this, and realize they are doing more harm then good.....hopefully, they will make the right choice, and get out of the business as well.
I'm sure Randall will be monitored for quite some time, and we'll be alerted the second he signs up with another school, or program.
As far as Randall's kids go, whoever said that comment above is one sick individual. It makes you look as bad, if not worse then Randall Hinton himself!
OMFG.
What the hell??!
The man belongs nowhere but prison for a very long time and you're showing compassion and empathy for him???!!!
Holy bloody hell... ::puke:: ::puke:: ::puke::
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I do have to give Randall props though. Since he has agreed to leave the industry instead of trying to stay in it. It is unfortunate though that a number of kids had to endure this man pepper spraying them, and treating them in the manner in which he did. He only received 25 days in jail though? So, that means that either the courts think that these kids were lying......or that the courts don't care nearly enough about teens rights in general?
I think that Randall's job was not an easy one. I think that it could be extremely challenging at times. It takes a special person to do a job like that, and to do it well. It's tough. However, it is a position in which he chose. Nobody chose it for him.
I dunno, you tell me?
I for one am amazed you can put gold leaf on a turd with a keyboard so well, but that's just MY opinion.
If you reversed your bold print on my post, I think you would find that I wasn't trying to defend him. I was just giving different points of view, that's all.
Sorry, my bad! This guy is totally 100% evil. May he rot in jail, and be raped every day of his 25 day sentence! Is that better? Does that work for you?!!!
This is a prime example of what happens to people who try to post their thoughts, and because they don't fall into the majority of Fornits opinion, they are given a hard time.
I really hope that in your personal lives you are nothing but perfect. Because, you sure the hell act like you walk on water.
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Yeah, whatever ya gotta tell yourself. :roll: At first I thought you were just still washed a little or maybe just extremely confused but now you just seem like a bitch who enjoys being in the middle of the fray.....whatever fray, doesn't matter. Hell, maybe you're just institutionalized. Ya know, you don't know how to live without crisis or conflict. I went through that for a long time. Its a symptom of PTSD.
You're defending (yes, that's what you were doing) one of the most notorious and rather sadistic assholes around. This is one of those guys who thoroughly enjoyed his job. He loved the power he had and loved to wield it. What the hell did you expect??
::noway:: ::puke::
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Chill Anne.
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Chill Anne.
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Awww. Fret not, Little One. You don't bother me. Its just sad to see someone so institutionalized that they would defend someone who behaved this way, with great pride[/b], towards kids.
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001010! Where have you been????? Little ones take up a lot of time, don't they? Hey, do me a favor........tell me one thing, did you know Randall personally?
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Same question goes for you Anne.
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No.
Do you need to meet Miller Newton personally to know he's an abusive fuck?
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001010! Where have you been????? Little ones take up a lot of time, don't they? Hey, do me a favor........tell me one thing, did you know Randall personally?
I've met him and been around him, yes. I've been pretty closely involved. I know enough to know he's a sadist in the name of Jehovah...
They do!!! He's 8 months already! 8-)
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What the fuck are you doing reproducing in the first place?
I wish the kid went out and played in traffic- it would have stopped his filthy DNA from progressing, and it would have saved the girl a life as the daughter of Randall Hinton.
See, this is the type of stuff that just does not need to be said IMHO!!!
Anyway, I think it's probably best that Randall get into another line of work. I never knew the guy personally......but, in the Tranquility Bay Documentary he came across as being very sadistic. Perhaps, it's just the way they spliced the video together, I just don't know?
I do have to give Randall props though. Since he has agreed to leave the industry instead of trying to stay in it. It is unfortunate though that a number of kids had to endure this man pepper spraying them, and treating them in the manner in which he did. He only received 25 days in jail though? So, that means that either the courts think that these kids were lying......or that the courts don't care nearly enough about teens rights in general?
I think that Randall's job was not an easy one. I think that it could be extremely challenging at times. It takes a special person to do a job like that, and to do it well. It's tough. However, it is a position in which he chose. Nobody chose it for him.
So hopefully if there are other staff out there in this industry that are reading this, and realize they are doing more harm then good.....hopefully, they will make the right choice, and get out of the business as well.
I'm sure Randall will be monitored for quite some time, and we'll be alerted the second he signs up with another school, or program.
As far as Randall's kids go, whoever said that comment above is one sick individual. It makes you look as bad, if not worse then Randall Hinton himself!
OM
Man, it's about time you started posting again...good to see you back!
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What the fuck are you doing reproducing in the first place?
I wish the kid went out and played in traffic- it would have stopped his filthy DNA from progressing, and it would have saved the girl a life as the daughter of Randall Hinton.
See, this is the type of stuff that just does not need to be said IMHO!!!
Anyway, I think it's probably best that Randall get into another line of work. I never knew the guy personally......but, in the Tranquility Bay Documentary he came across as being very sadistic. Perhaps, it's just the way they spliced the video together, I just don't know?
I do have to give Randall props though. Since he has agreed to leave the industry instead of trying to stay in it. It is unfortunate though that a number of kids had to endure this man pepper spraying them, and treating them in the manner in which he did. He only received 25 days in jail though? So, that means that either the courts think that these kids were lying......or that the courts don't care nearly enough about teens rights in general?
I think that Randall's job was not an easy one. I think that it could be extremely challenging at times. It takes a special person to do a job like that, and to do it well. It's tough. However, it is a position in which he chose. Nobody chose it for him.
So hopefully if there are other staff out there in this industry that are reading this, and realize they are doing more harm then good.....hopefully, they will make the right choice, and get out of the business as well.
I'm sure Randall will be monitored for quite some time, and we'll be alerted the second he signs up with another school, or program.
As far as Randall's kids go, whoever said that comment above is one sick individual. It makes you look as bad, if not worse then Randall Hinton himself!
OM
Man, it's about time you started posting again...good to see you back!
hey you :wink:
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No.
Do you need to meet Miller Newton personally to know he's an abusive fuck?
Then let us pray to God that you never serve on a jury. Because sometimes (believe it, or not), what looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck............ain't always a duck!
Randall, and from what I have seen on the net, and that TB documentary....seems like a real asshole. But, the jury didn't seem to think that he was a child abuser. Otherwise he would have been banned from all schools/programs. The judge and jury (from what I have read here) did not approve of him getting physical with one of the children, so they gave him a mere 25 days in jail, and what? 3 years probation? I have to go back, and look. This is from people who got to look at all of the evidence.
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No.
Do you need to meet Miller Newton personally to know he's an abusive fuck?
Then let us pray to God that you never serve on a jury. Because sometimes (believe it, or not), what looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck............ain't always a duck!
Randall, and from what I have seen on the net, and that TB documentary....seems like a real asshole. But, the jury didn't seem to think that he was a child abuser. Otherwise he would have been banned from all schools/programs. The judge and jury (from what I have read here) did not approve of him getting physical with one of the children, so they gave him a mere 25 days in jail, and what? 3 years probation? I have to go back, and look. This is from people who got to look at all of the evidence.
I'm sure they weren't allowed to know anything about him. I betcha if they do some investigation after the fact they'll be kicking themselves for being such sucker-douchbags.
Besides, he was on good behavior because he was in the US. :roll:
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It is a pitiful mere ONE year probation, from what I remember, back on page 1 of this thread.
CANON CITY - A former Royal Gorge Academy director convicted of assault and false imprisonment of two students was sentenced Monday to 25 days in jail and one year on probation.
And no, you don't need to know child abusers personally to pass judgment on them. Some acts are just unequivocally beyond the realm of grey. Was personal knowledge or acquaintance a condition of being on the jury?
::roflmao:: PuhLEEEZ!!
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I'm sure they weren't allowed to know anything about him. I betcha if they do some investigation after the fact they'll be kicking themselves for being such sucker-douchbags.
Besides, he was on good behavior because he was in the US. :roll:
I know, right?
All this debate over some WWASP advocate?
Hang him and get it over with.
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Then let us pray to God that you never serve on a jury. Because sometimes (believe it, or not), what looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and walks like a duck............ain't always a duck!
Well of course I wouldn't qualify to serve on a jury in any area related to this. Duh. :roll:
Randall, and from what I have seen on the net, and that TB documentary....seems like a real asshole. But, the jury didn't seem to think that he was a child abuser. Otherwise he would have been banned from all schools/programs. The judge and jury (from what I have read here) did not approve of him getting physical with one of the children, so they gave him a mere 25 days in jail, and what? 3 years probation? I have to go back, and look. This is from people who got to look at all of the evidence.
Otherwise he would have been banned from all schools/programs.
:o :o
What color is the sky in your world?
Miller Newton is the most sadistic child abuser I have ever seen in my life. He has millions of dollars in civil judgements against him, yet he has never been charged with the crimes he has committed. Do you really believe what you wrote up there?? Or is this more of you stirring the pot?
No, I'm quite sure, from everything I've read here and various other sources, that the jury did not see 'all the evidence' as juries rarely do. That's why there are tons of pre-trial motions having to do with admittance of evidence.
Wake up.
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Or is this more of you stirring the pot?
is this a serious question - i thought it was a foregone conclusion.
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Or is this more of you stirring the pot?
is this a serious question - i thought it was a foregone conclusion.
[sigh] I know, I know. You're right.
:roll: :silly:
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I'm sure they weren't allowed to know anything about him. I betcha if they do some investigation after the fact they'll be kicking themselves for being such sucker-douchbags.
Besides, he was on good behavior because he was in the US. :roll:
I know, right?
All this debate over some WWASP advocate?
Hang him and get it over with.
I'll bring the popcorn!
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I forgot that you knew him personally. Was that Tranquility Bay you knew him from? Did you have a run in with him there?
CCM girl
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001010-
I forgot that you knew him personally. Was that Tranquility Bay you knew him from? Did you have a run in with him there?
CCM girl
Boonville...
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were you a detainee?
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It could be safe to say,the judge in Randall's case received an abundance of "happy letters " in support of the Program.In support of Randall .
That's how they play it.
The Program saved their kid's life etc. IMO The judge acted upon the letters received. He sentenced accordingly.
I was told only letters were welcomed and used from people involved in the case. Happy parents part of the same facility could be considered involved. Their "school", their kid,THEIR PROGRAM etc.
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It could be safe to say,the judge in Randall's case received an abundance of "happy letters " in support of the Program.In support of Randall .
That's how they play it.
The Program saved their kid's life etc. IMO The judge acted upon the letters received. He sentenced accordingly.
I was told only letters were welcomed and used from people involved in the case. Happy parents part of the same facility could be considered involved. Their "school", their kid,THEIR PROGRAM etc.
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I've met him and been around him, yes. I've been pretty closely involved. I know enough to know he's a sadist in the name of Jehovah...quote]
how closely involved?did you work with him?were you friends or neighbors?i would love to know how you have come to hate him personally.i laugh at you calling him these names because there is no way you could have ever known him to say this about him.just like everybody else, you google his name and come up with your own "wrongly formed opinion" based on bad propaganda placed on the internet.i was there for the latest accusations so i know what happened.you can stick to reading your one-sided stories (like the canon city daily record) and hate him all you want.
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Spirit 23, Did you see Randall Hinton's interview in the Tranquility Bay Documentary? His own words tell what type of abusive, cruel, child-abusing asshole this man is. No one needs to read a fucking newspaper to know this jerk abuese kids, and that he refers to children as "half baked pizzas." Has anyone told you to STFU, yet?
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Spirit 23, Did you see Randall Hinton's interview in the Tranquility Bay Documentary? His own words tell what type of abusive, cruel, child-abusing asshole this man is. No one needs to read a fucking newspaper to know this jerk abuses kids, and that he refers to children as "half baked pizzas." Has anyone told you to STFU, yet?
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I've met him and been around him, yes. I've been pretty closely involved. I know enough to know he's a sadist in the name of Jehovah...quote]
how closely involved?did you work with him?were you friends or neighbors?i would love to know how you have come to hate him personally.i laugh at you calling him these names because there is no way you could have ever known him to say this about him.just like everybody else, you google his name and come up with your own "wrongly formed opinion" based on bad propaganda placed on the internet.i was there for the latest accusations so i know what happened.you can stick to reading your one-sided stories (like the canon city daily record) and hate him all you want.
Shut it, cum guzzler.
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i hope you feel better about yourself.i wont shut it.you know nothing about him.
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I assure you, you don't know him nearly as well as Bubba will. :lol:
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i hope you feel better about yourself.i wont shut it.you know nothing about him.
Perhaps you have some love interest with this creep, and that's why you defend him so much? And the above anon poster is right; he'll most likely end up BEHIND BARS where he belongs.
Admins: Is spirit23 a troll (like really TheWho or somebody)? Let's have it.
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Admins: Is spirit23 a troll (like really TheWho or somebody)? Let's have it.
It's hard to believe that people as brainwashed as this dumb bitch even exist.
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Admins: Is spirit23 a troll (like really TheWho or somebody)? Let's have it.
It's hard to believe that people as brainwashed as this dumb bitch even exist.
You got that right, pal.
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I've met him and been around him, yes. I've been pretty closely involved. I know enough to know he's a sadist in the name of Jehovah...quote]
how closely involved?did you work with him?were you friends or neighbors?i would love to know how you have come to hate him personally.i laugh at you calling him these names because there is no way you could have ever known him to say this about him.just like everybody else, you google his name and come up with your own "wrongly formed opinion" based on bad propaganda placed on the internet.i was there for the latest accusations so i know what happened.you can stick to reading your one-sided stories (like the canon city daily record) and hate him all you want.
Well, since you love him so much, why don't you marry him. Oh, wait, you already did! ::madclown::
I don't hate him. I strongly dislike him. ::both::
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Well, since you love him so much, why don't you marry him. Oh, wait, you already did! ::madclown::
:o :question: :question:
Really?
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Randall Hinton's wife can actually read and write?
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Randall Hinton's wife can actually read and write?
Only when he allows her, when she's not busy delivering pizza.
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Well, since you love him so much, why don't you marry him. Oh, wait, you already did! ::madclown::
:o :question: :question:
Really?
You never know... Who else would defend that... errr, ummm, guy. :lol:
He's a douche!
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dont even talk about randall's wife like that.she has done nothing to you at all.you people need to get a life.seriously just grow up.if you want to talk about me dont post it on here.be an adult say it to my face
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CERTAINLY!
Who are you, and where do you live?
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Post your picture, then - so we can see your face. OK?
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Post your picture, then - so we can see your face. OK?
I'll post a picture of your ASS, biatch!
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Post your picture, then - so we can see your face. OK?
I'll post a picture of your ASS, biatch!
Little trouble with the spelling there, huh? LOL
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dont even talk about randall's wife like that.she has done nothing to you at all.you people need to get a life.seriously just grow up.if you want to talk about me dont post it on here.be an adult say it to my face
Post your phone number, address, and best possible times to contact you and I'm sure someone will waste their time in a sophmoric penis measuring contest with you.
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I'm assuming that he will be low man on the totem pole at his new job, being that he has worked for WWASP for so long and likely has little or no formal training in the automotive industry.
I hope that his remaining on probation will mean that legal eyes remain vigilant on him and his young children. I do not understand why, when a parent is convicted of a crime against any child, CPS is not automatically notified to check the welfare of the convict's own children.
I can't imagine that he is a good father who exhibits patience and proper parenting techniques, given that he was convicted of violence against a child.
Randall Hinton's problems may also be worsening at home, as his wife could understandably feel ashamed of her convicted husband's actions and likely low-wage, entry level job.
I see people like the Hintons on Jerry Springer all the time. I have to remind myself that there are real people with such poor judgment that they put themselves and their children in such predicaments each day.
His hickspeak and lack of remorse only confirm what the general public already suspects about him, given the history of accusations against him across various states and countries.
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Randall Hinton's problems may also be worsening at home, as his wife could understandably feel ashamed of her convicted husband's (..) likely low-wage, entry level job.
What's "understandably" shameful about a low-wage job? Look like you absorbed some of the ethos of wwasps, in spite of yourself.