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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 19, 2007, 12:26:16 AM
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At any given time there are about 25 people on fornits. But there are not so many posting, it seems. Why do so many just lurk? Or, am i mistaken and are they also mostly posting.
just curious
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Well... I know when I first found fornits, I lurked for a good long time before I started posting. And then I was posting for a time as an anon, before I took on a username.
That said, I think some people are also more comfortable just reading and taking a lot in, and have less of a need to put their two cents in. Some people can not put their two cents in sans risk, since they are still in program.
Just my guess. I honestly don't know for sure...
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I lurked for awhile before I posted. I honestly couldn't make sense of what I was reading at first. It seemed like a lot of inside jokes and outright nonsense, but I stayed and realized that I just came on a bad day. It was apparently an all out trollathon. After awhile I got into the swing of things and realized what a goldmine of info this place was, lucky me....
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I lurked for a little too. But could not find info on the specific school I was looking at so then asked questions
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We survivors are a sneaky, dishonest lot. bwahaha.
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Urs, Hanzo, OG, how did ya'll find Fornits. Were you searching for anything in particular?
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Yeah, I had zeroed in on the Straights specifically SAFE. Some page I was on had a link to a "survivors message board" which turned out to be fornits. Lord I will never forget those early days, it was like stumbling into someone else's nightmare. I swear my respect for humanity dropped every few hours cause every few hours I would read about some unbelievable display of depravity that just blew my mind.
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pretty randomly. I looked up the name of the school I was looking for and kept googling things like troubled children etc . I some ways I have my Italian mother who is obsessed with feeding ppl to blame/thank. When a relative was thinking of one of these schools there was some mention of no packages from wider relatives. She wondered what sort of sick place does not allow grandmothers to send cookies LOL.
I also then recalled a Vanity Fair story i read yrs earlier on a bloke who was on trial for a murder he was accused of committing as a teenager. (the skatel case) After this incident had allegedly occured his father sent him to elan and his class mates described all of these crazy and hideous things which were used in his case to get a confession. I wondered if the school i was looking at was somewhat like this. So I googled Elan hoping that this school was not like Elan and fornits came up.
I read some kids stories on the site and found I had a lot of questions. Number 1 was why parents did not investigate the allegations when the kids came home for exeat weekends or in the case of American kids the long summer break. It did not occur to me in spite of reading terms like yr round that this meant that the kids literally did not really go home for over a yr at a time. This was because the mere concept seemed to absurd to be real.
I also then read about the wilderness industry on this site and got links to other sites. This shocked the hell out of me. I had heard somewhere about these Wilderness places for kids with drug troubles but I imagined that they were some sort of summer camp like thing with addiction counselling.
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Lurkers are skeerd.
Or they're learning about whats going on. I mean shit, if you were thinking of getting help for your kid, come here, and find out whats up, wouldn't you be a little intimidated?
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I was trying to find some information on wilderness therapy when I happened upon Fornits…. I read for about an hour and then book marked it and came back to it again about a week later when I was cleaning up the bookmarks. I lurked for quite awhile and was struck by all the negative posts associated with the schools. I had never met anyone who had a bad experience or read an article that was negative. After about a week I posted my first post and started asking questions and eventually told of my success with wilderness and TBS… I began to realize that there was much more to the industry than what I had experienced i.e. boot camps, straight in the 1970’s, Juvy warehouses etc. and this was where most of the negative press seemed to be coming from. I think the reason I decided to stay (even though it became obvious no one wanted to hear my side) was that many of the posters were taking people experiences from one area of the industry (boot camps) and trying to sell this off to readers as what occurs in “Allâ€
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Lurking is a respected, worthwhile, and honorable activity. LURK MOAR.
Or just avoid this forum and everything to do with the entire teen torture business. This is what is known as the 'sane option', and most certainly the one that most parents reading Fornits follow.
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Well, I thought perhaps, like me, they are anxious about their IP. This isn’t an issue for the purely interested, but for survivors and the generally flighty, it’s a concern..
I wonder if there was anyway to find out that our posts were secure, that mods can't know who we are from just our ips, and they can't be like tracked by nefarious people from our past for misuse???????????????????????????????????????????????
Also, this is a different question, but does everyone here know each other, either interpersonally, or email? Or, Is there an assoc. like cafety, or isac?
thanks
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Well, I thought perhaps, like me, they are anxious about their IP.
USE MOAR TOR (http://http://www.torproject.org/)
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I was trying to find some information on wilderness therapy when I happened upon Fornits…. I read for about an hour and then book marked it and came back to it again about a week later when I was cleaning up the bookmarks. I lurked for quite awhile and was struck by all the negative posts associated with the schools. I had never met anyone who had a bad experience or read an article that was negative. After about a week I posted my first post and started asking questions and eventually told of my success with wilderness and TBS… I began to realize that there was much more to the industry than what I had experienced i.e. boot camps, straight in the 1970’s, Juvy warehouses etc. and this was where most of the negative press seemed to be coming from. I think the reason I decided to stay (even though it became obvious no one wanted to hear my side) was that many of the posters were taking people experiences from one area of the industry (boot camps) and trying to sell this off to readers as what occurs in “Allâ€
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I have no problem with lurkers. I lurked for a while when I first found this site. I told myself there was no way I was going to post. I was actually paranoid someone from my peer group would find out who I was. Then I posted as anonymous. Then I registered. The rest is history. Like I care who knows me now. (Just as long as its not a prospective employer. I may be white, but I'm not stupid.) But for the most part, I am pretty open about it.
Guess how I found this site? BRAT CAMP. I shit you not. I saw the show, wondered if they were having their thing in the owyhee, where I had my last wilderness expedition. They weren't. That made me check out what the CEDU schools were up to. That's when I found out about the closings, the riot, the lawsuits, all that shit. I drilled down my search, and they linked to fornits. What? An entire forum on CEDU? Holy fucking shit! I'm not crazy after all!
And this was back when the forum had some pretty serious flamers and trolls on there, too. I think I showed up right after the ottowa drama had petered out, and the carlbrook thread reared its ugly head for the first time.
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But for the most part, I am pretty open about it.
I daresay that's not ~all you're open about on here... :P
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But for the most part, I am pretty open about it.
I daresay that's not ~all you're open about on here... :P
(http://http://www.wholenotherthing.com/moods/devious.gif) hehehe (http://http://www.wholenotherthing.com/moods/mischievous.gif)
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bump
I'm bumping this for anyone who is paranoid about posting. Get a toar , or whatever, and then you needn't be afraid of whatever torture cult you last dealt with
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people can figure out where i am posting from? what is a toar?
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people can figure out where i am posting from? what is a toar?
For the most part you will be fine. If you attended a program and had a negative experience and/or you post about your negative experiences then you will be safe and no one will harass you. Just try to put a negative spin on each post.
But say you are a staff member (as an example) who wants to post and you start talking about improvements made at your school or the positive aspects of “Therapeutic Boarding schoolsâ€
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i have no problem with the moderators knowing my location...it's your type i want it to be kept away from
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so are the moderators the only ones with access to my IP address, or can anyone trace it? Anyway to "hide" your IP address?
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Use a proxy. I use www.3proxy.com (http://www.3proxy.com) all the time torpark also works and if that is to much there is www.proxify.com (http://www.proxify.com)
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so are the moderators the only ones with access to my IP address, or can anyone trace it? Anyway to "hide" your IP address?
Look you pathetic fucking idiot, as we just now informed you on the other thread on the Veterans forum, there may or may not be moderators, but there ARE admins, so you are BUSTED. As far as anyone "tracing" your IP, that would only happen if some fiendish FBI geek had a reason to bother with doing something like that. Anyway, might I kindly suggest you eat yourself a nice a bowl of fuck and quit wasting ppl's time around here.
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oooooooooo busted! so scarred your gonna come correct my spelling RETARD
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so are the moderators the only ones with access to my IP address, or can anyone trace it? Anyway to "hide" your IP address?
Look you pathetic fucking idiot, as we just now informed you on the other thread on the Veterans forum, there may or may not be moderators, but there ARE admins, so you are BUSTED. As far as anyone "tracing" your IP, that would only happen if some fiendish FBI geek had a reason to bother with doing something like that. Anyway, might I kindly suggest you eat yourself a nice a bowl of fuck and quit wasting ppl's time around here.
Lovely. Which dulcet toungued administrator is this?
What is the veterans thread?
People can find out stuff about you through your ip, i think, with certian software. Use an ip hider. I'm going to start doing that, so i can start naming my program
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come on come correct my spelling cheez retard. i know who you R
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Thanks for answering my questions.
As for this Look you pathetic fucking idiot, as we just now informed you on the other thread on the Veterans forum, there may or may not be moderators, but there ARE admins, so you are BUSTED. As far as anyone "tracing" your IP, that would only happen if some fiendish FBI geek had a reason to bother with doing something like that. Anyway, might I kindly suggest you eat yourself a nice a bowl of fuck and quit wasting ppl's time around here.
That might be why a lot of people lurk instead of post.
btw this is the only forum i've posted in
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btw this is the only forum i've posted in
Bullshit, you're a fucking LIAR.
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oooooooooo busted! so scarred your gonna come correct my spelling RETARD
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oooooooooo busted! so scarred your gonna come correct my spelling RETARD
Yup, same person.
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thanks for checkin there admins wink wink
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Sure, np.
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Is the only admin Antigen?
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Not tellin' :P
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I lurk a lot, post occasionally.
I've found this site way back in 2003, after reading the Guardian article on Tranquility Bay and looking for more info.
Then I realized it was connected to the place my best friend spent 18 months of her life in (Cross Creek Manor) and that there's this actually a huge cultish underworld of "therapeutic" programs.
I came across all those websites advertising WWASP and other cultish shitholes, and then stumbled upon Fornits... was extremely relieved to know there are people out there who are working to take action against this shit.
Been here ever since.