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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 10:19:52 AM

Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 10:19:52 AM
This guy claims he's just a dad, then mentions he has a fiduciary interest in Aspen... I always assume he's just a shill...

But, can you imagine if he's really just a program parent? How sad that would be?
Title: Re: Pity for the Who
Post by: TheWho on November 15, 2007, 10:24:08 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
This guy claims he's just a dad, then mentions he has a fiduciary interest in Aspen... I always assume he's just a shill...

But, can you imagine if he's really just a program parent? How sad that would be?


Maybe we should have a pity party for him.  Being a mere program parent is only one step up from being a program survivor.
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 10:26:36 AM
Being a mere program parent is one step up from being a concentration camp guard.
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 10:29:24 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Being a mere program parent is one step up from being a concentration camp guard.


No doubt, but can u imagine spending all your time here, if you really "just want to give people" another side of things. It's just sad.

I mean, imagine your dad doing it....
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 11:31:54 AM
He's a shill ,right? Not a koolaid drinker?
What do you think?
Title: Re: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
This guy claims he's just a dad, then mentions he has a fiduciary interest in Aspen...



Where?  I've always suspected as much but didn't see him admit to it.
Title: Re: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
This guy claims he's just a dad, then mentions he has a fiduciary interest in Aspen...


Where?  I've always suspected as much but didn't see him admit to it.


Oh, look up in the HLA forum...its there somewhere. Something is being discussed in regards to who's the new investor, or some such. Who chimes in with :i cannot comment as i have a fiduciary interest.

Shit better go before he erases it
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Deborah on November 15, 2007, 11:48:41 AM
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=283976#283976 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=283976#283976)

Quote from: ""TheWho""
Quote from: ""Guest""
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When is this supposed to take place?

Well the  announcement takes place after the lawyers sign off on the deal, but they usually wait until the transfer is ready to take place.
The legal transfer typically takes place at the beginning of the new quarter (or fiscal year).
So based on this I would expect the announcement would come at anytime and the transfer could occur on Tuesday October 1, 2007 or early January 2008.

...


How is it that you are in a position to have knowledge about the acquisition of HLA?


I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved,  this could be misconstrued as “Tippingâ€
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 12:56:30 PM
A fiduciary duty is not the same as a financial interest.  He could be representing them as an investment banker, financial advisor, attorney or otherwise.  A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 12:57:18 PM
http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=283976#283976 (http://wwf.fornits.com/viewtopic.php?p=283976#283976)

Quote from: "TheWho"

I apologize for being vague, I have a fiduciary duty which prevents me from speaking in any specific terms in this area and can only comment on information which is first made public by either party involved,  this could be misconstrued as “Tippingâ€
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 01:07:30 PM
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A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.


:lol: They sure picked the wrong guy here then, didn't they?
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
A fiduciary duty is not the same as a financial interest.  He could be representing them as an investment banker, financial advisor, attorney or otherwise.  A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.



What's your point?

 :rofl:
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Botched Programming on November 15, 2007, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
A fiduciary duty is not the same as a financial interest.  He could be representing them as an investment banker, financial advisor, attorney or otherwise.  A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.


Even using the examples you provided, there is still money going into the pocket whether it be directly from the facility, or indirectly coming from his employer.

Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 01:35:47 PM
Quote from: ""Botched Programming""
Quote from: ""Guest""
A fiduciary duty is not the same as a financial interest.  He could be representing them as an investment banker, financial advisor, attorney or otherwise.  A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.

Even using the examples you provided, there is still money going into the pocket whether it be directly from the facility, or indirectly coming from his employer.




Either that, or Daddy is.
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 01:59:57 PM
symantics?
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: TheWho on November 15, 2007, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
A fiduciary duty is not the same as a financial interest.  He could be representing them as an investment banker, financial advisor, attorney or otherwise.  A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.


What's your point?

 :rofl:


Means he may not be financially connected, just has a responsibility to be confidential.
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 04:13:15 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
A fiduciary duty is not the same as a financial interest.  He could be representing them as an investment banker, financial advisor, attorney or otherwise.  A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.


What's your point?

 :rofl:

Means he may not be financially connected, just has a responsibility to be confidential.



Yeah, I got that.  It was an inside joke.



Bain CRC Aspen Education

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199 ... sults.html (http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-6353173/CRC-Health-Reports-Operating-Results.html)
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: TheWho on November 15, 2007, 04:42:06 PM
Here is some other stuff thewho is spewing around fornits:

I think you will see that after you eliminate the state run hospitals and boot camps the numbers look pretty good.

NCES still has not released their data for 2004-2005 year..... as soon as it becomes availble I will add the figures in.


You can click on the program type to get more detail if needed.[/b]
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July 1, 2000 thru June 2001   -------There were 1,466 Homicides and 1,493 suicides   , 2,959 Total  

TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total

Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 1 suicides, ----- 1 Total

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July 1, 2001 thru June 2002   -------There were 1,468 Homicides and 1,400 suicides   , 2,868 Total  

TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total

Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total

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July 1, 2002 thru June 2003   -------There were 1,515 Homicides and 1,331 suicides   , 2,846 Total  

TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total

Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
___________________________________________________________________________
July 1, 2003 thru June 2004   -------There were 1,437 Homicides and 1,285 suicides   , 2,722 Total  

TBS (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249129) ---------------------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total

Wilderness (http://http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=249136&sid=9b8eb4a290172f9cf58ad39d2a5aea7f#249130) -----------There were 0 Homicides, 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total
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Total Industry -------There were 0 Homicides , 0 suicides, ----- 0 Total

TBS - Therapeutic Boarding Schools
 NCES National Center for Education Statistics
CDC -- Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
* - Data found here on fornits, internet news articles (caica.org, isaccorp.org), posts and PM?s....  All deaths are verified thru local news articles.
X -- Incomplete or unavailable[/size
Title: the who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 04:43:51 PM
what a sackoshit this guy is,the epitome of ASSiCHEWSshit arogance,the kind of dickhead who thinks the louder(or more he posts)he is the more right he is,       Probably yells his own name during sex........
Title: Re: the who
Post by: TheWho on November 15, 2007, 05:18:10 PM
Here is some other crap the whooser writes:

Quote from: ""TheWho""
This is such a crock!!  We go round and round with this double standard around here:

Parent1:  My child said she would have been dead or in jail if it wasn’t for the TBS she attended.
Typical Fornits Response :  Don’t believe her,  She has been brain washed.

Parent2: My child said she was abused, what should I do.
Typical Fornits response:  Oh, you have to believe her, she must be telling the truth, don’t let the counselors tell you that she is manipulating you.  Call 911 right away.

Parent 3: My child is doing well since graduating…. Went back to school, college and is happy working torwards her career
Typical Fornits response:  Give her a few years it is all fake, she is miserable on the inside, don’t believe her.

Parent 4:  I spoke to my child and she said they didn’t allow her to eat dinner with the rest of the kids because she acted out.  Is this something they typically do?
typical Fornits response:  Yes, she is being denied food (typical tactic of TBS’s), you must believe her and call the authorities, she is probably afraid to tell you the whole story and is in extreme danger... call right away!!!
Title: Re: the who
Post by: Botched Programming on November 15, 2007, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: ""daddy o""
Probably yells his own name during sex........


And what's wrong with yelling your own name..... that's when you know you're good at what you do!!!!  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Froderik on November 15, 2007, 06:18:00 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""
A fiduciary duty is not the same as a financial interest.  He could be representing them as an investment banker, financial advisor, attorney or otherwise.  A fiduciary owes a duty of confidentiality and trust.


What's your point?

 :rofl:

::seg:: ::bwahaha::
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: TheWho on November 15, 2007, 06:31:27 PM
After we all got done straightening out this stupid parent for trying to tell us his kid was helped by sending him away to a duck farm, thewho starts talking to this parent and saying stuff like this:

Quote from: "TheWho"
Well, fornits is a very different place than most.  In a typical conversation (outside fornits), if you said your daughter had a positive experience at a TBS, most people would inquire about it and try to gain some insight into her experience and wish her well and be happy for her and her family.

But here at fornits  it is a little different, you would be countered with “Well wait 5 yearsâ€
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 15, 2007, 07:18:51 PM
Quote from: "TheWho"
Well, fornits is a very different place than most.  In a typical conversation (outside fornits), if you said your daughter had a positive experience at a TBS, most people would inquire about it and try to gain some insight into her experience and wish her well and be happy for her and her family.

But here at fornits  it is a little different, you would be countered with “Well wait 5 yearsâ€
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: TheWho on November 15, 2007, 07:40:55 PM
If he continues to disagree with us I think we should just vote to get him banned.  He nothing but programmie trash whe sent his kid away.
Title: Pity for the Who
Post by: Anonymous on November 16, 2007, 12:13:56 PM
Quote from: "Guest"
Quote from: "TheWho"
Well, fornits is a very different place than most.  In a typical conversation (outside fornits), if you said your daughter had a positive experience at a TBS, most people would inquire about it and try to gain some insight into her experience and wish her well and be happy for her and her family.

But here at fornits  it is a little different, you would be countered with “Well wait 5 yearsâ€