Post by: Nikki on November 09, 2007, 12:17:44 AM
Post by: Anonymous on November 18, 2007, 02:48:55 PM
i've been thinking about AA a lot too lately, and is it really the best idea to tell someone that drinks too much that they don't have control over their lives? Shouldn't the message be that you have the choice to pick up that drink, and the choice to set it down. i don't know, it just seems like a ready made cop out. sorry i cheated on you/wrecked this car/(add stupid drunk action here) but i had no control! it wasn't my fault! the alcohol made me do it! seriously, wtf. i honestly wondered what would happen to me if i had a sip of beer. I really was expecting something (i don't know what, something bad though) to happen. Guess what? The sky didn't fall, I wasn't dragged away, I didn't die. I will admit, I was a little bit shocked by this lack of catastrophe. It really did throw me off. Looking back at that, i'm amazed that I really did think that something would happen, and how irrational that was. That's how much i believed them.
Post by: Nikki on November 18, 2007, 06:01:36 PM
ALLUMINATE THE PATH
Guest"]looking back on things, i'm a little bit disgusted with myself about the extent that i bought into this program. it makes me feel like i have a weak mind, and that i shouldn't have just gone quietly. on first phase i said something to an old comer about how everyone in the program seemed brain washed, their reply was "your brain needs a good washing" or something to that effect. I hate that my mind was fucked with, and i hate that it continues to this day. i hate that when i try to talk to anyone about it, i get a blank stare with a nod that says 'you sound fucking crazy' or i'll get, shut up, it wasn't that bad, you put yourself there in the first place.
i've been thinking about AA a lot too lately, and is it really the best idea to tell someone that drinks too much that they don't have control over their lives? Shouldn't the message be that you have the choice to pick up that drink, and the choice to set it down. i don't know, it just seems like a ready made cop out. sorry i cheated on you/wrecked this car/(add stupid drunk action here) but i had no control! it wasn't my fault! the alcohol made me do it! seriously, wtf. i honestly wondered what would happen to me if i had a sip of beer. I really was expecting something (i don't know what, something bad though) to happen. Guess what? The sky didn't fall, I wasn't dragged away, I didn't die. I will admit, I was a little bit shocked by this lack of catastrophe. It really did throw me off. Looking back at that, i'm amazed that I really did think that something would happen, and how irrational that was. That's how much i believed them.[/quote]
Post by: wdtony on November 18, 2007, 06:03:55 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
on first phase i said something to an old comer about how everyone in the program seemed brain washed, their reply was "your brain needs a good washing" or something to that effect.
People won't ever understand the program's tactics until they understand brainwashing. It is frustrating to explain but I do it all the time to raise awareness of it's existence. Brainwashing and coersion is the cornerstone to this perverted, monstrous industry. People who study cults understand this concept well. It is funny that the two words that best describe the program's ways ,(cult and brainwashing) are not generally accepted when speaking about the programs.
I analogize that what the program did to my brain is similar to what a cluster bomb does to a village. The main damage happened a long time ago but someone still loses a leg now and then while walking along quietly.
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Post by: Nikki on November 18, 2007, 10:06:29 PM
A.S.A.P. Mental Health Clinics then i had a Stroke. I'm done.
People won't ever understand the program's tactics until they understand brainwashing. It is frustrating to explain but I do it all the time to raise awareness of it's existence. Brainwashing and coersion is the cornerstone to this perverted, monstrous industry. People who study cults understand this concept well. It is funny that the two words that best describe the program's ways ,(cult and brainwashing) are not generally accepted when speaking about the programs.
I analogize that what the program did to my brain is similar to what a cluster bomb does to a village. The main damage happened a long time ago but someone still loses a leg now and then while walking along quietly.
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