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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => Straight, Inc. and Derivatives => Topic started by: Anonymous on November 07, 2007, 02:26:39 AM
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
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Richard,
Wow, you were in Hebron huh? The Hebron Hilton, Did you coin that phrase? I think I will use that.
To answer your question about Kathy, no, I don't remember Kathy Balinger but my memory isn't the best when it comes to executive staff. In fact, I never saw the staff psychologist as far as I remember. I do remember a senior staff member named Ben. Did you know him? Becky Potts? Scott High? Sometimes I just get a memory out of nowhere and sometimes someone reminds me of something.
If you can give me your e-mail if you have access that would be cool. I don't get a lot of Hebronites to talk to so it would be good. I don't know much about Thailand but could you set up a temporary e-mail and put it up on fornits so I can send you my e-mail addy? If not, I will try to work something else out. I am lazy.
It is funny that you mention the name Balinger, could her name have been spelled Belanger? I ask you this because Pat and Roger Belanger were named as Straight Midwest Inc. successors in documentation on public record. If Kathy was related to Pat or Roger, that would be another piece of info linking KHK with Straight. "Straight is always somebody else".
Absolutely get in touch when you get back stateside, Do you work in Thailand or just on vacation? Do you still come around KY or Cincy when in the states? I am in Northern KY.
Anyone who commits crimes against humanity and especially kids should pay for their crimes. I hope to see them brought to justice someday.
The Hebron kids didn't fare so well. The rest of us that are surviving are pretty busy. It is difficult to put a lot of time in here. Gotta work massive hours to pay for gas to get to work you know. I feel like I am in a relay race and just got handed the stick. I assume it gets tiring after fighting these places for years.
very good to meet you,
Tony
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Yeah thanks for the wonderful compliment Richard,
-Dp
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Richard,
Wow, you were in Hebron huh? The Hebron Hilton, Did you coin that phrase? I think I will use that.
To answer your question about Kathy, no, I don't remember Kathy Balinger but my memory isn't the best when it comes to executive staff. In fact, I never saw the staff psychologist as far as I remember. I do remember a senior staff member named Ben. Did you know him? Becky Potts? Scott High? Sometimes I just get a memory out of nowhere and sometimes someone reminds me of something.
If you can give me your e-mail if you have access that would be cool. I don't get a lot of Hebronites to talk to so it would be good. I don't know much about Thailand but could you set up a temporary e-mail and put it up on fornits so I can send you my e-mail addy? If not, I will try to work something else out. I am lazy.
It is funny that you mention the name Balinger, could her name have been spelled Belanger? I ask you this because Pat and Roger Belanger were named as Straight Midwest Inc. successors in documentation on public record. If Kathy was related to Pat or Roger, that would be another piece of info linking KHK with Straight. "Straight is always somebody else".
Absolutely get in touch when you get back stateside, Do you work in Thailand or just on vacation? Do you still come around KY or Cincy when in the states? I am in Northern KY.
Anyone who commits crimes against humanity and especially kids should pay for their crimes. I hope to see them brought to justice someday.
The Hebron kids didn't fare so well. The rest of us that are surviving are pretty busy. It is difficult to put a lot of time in here. Gotta work massive hours to pay for gas to get to work you know. I feel like I am in a relay race and just got handed the stick. I assume it gets tiring after fighting these places for years.
very good to meet you,
Tony
Tony:
Scott High, yes. He was not one of the worst staff members in my time. In fact, I suspect he's a pretty decent person--to this day.
"Crimes against humanity" is an an apt phrase for any of the Sembler/Post-Sember-mills, then and now.
I will try to PM you an E-mail address, if I can get my old Fornits account to work. The problem is, I can't seem to access my email account on these computers.
It's very hard to do a thing in this Asian-gamer-nightmare of a cafe. But don't get me wrong--the Thais are wonderful people, truly. Some of the best people on the planet, really.
In any case, I'll see what I can do about finding a better place to write, because I'd really like to get in touch with you. I spent ten-plus months in Hebron, and never got past second phase. Balinger ultimately stuck me in solitary confinement, after months and months on first phase, till I broke down and got motivated. I ran after my first journey home in many months--and never went back. My mother just didn't have the tenacity to stick with it, so I was lucky.
Richard
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Richard,
Wow, you were in Hebron huh? The Hebron Hilton, Did you coin that phrase? I think I will use that.
To answer your question about Kathy, no, I don't remember Kathy Balinger but my memory isn't the best when it comes to executive staff. In fact, I never saw the staff psychologist as far as I remember. I do remember a senior staff member named Ben. Did you know him? Becky Potts? Scott High? Sometimes I just get a memory out of nowhere and sometimes someone reminds me of something.
If you can give me your e-mail if you have access that would be cool. I don't get a lot of Hebronites to talk to so it would be good. I don't know much about Thailand but could you set up a temporary e-mail and put it up on fornits so I can send you my e-mail addy? If not, I will try to work something else out. I am lazy.
It is funny that you mention the name Balinger, could her name have been spelled Belanger? I ask you this because Pat and Roger Belanger were named as Straight Midwest Inc. successors in documentation on public record. If Kathy was related to Pat or Roger, that would be another piece of info linking KHK with Straight. "Straight is always somebody else".
Absolutely get in touch when you get back stateside, Do you work in Thailand or just on vacation? Do you still come around KY or Cincy when in the states? I am in Northern KY.
Anyone who commits crimes against humanity and especially kids should pay for their crimes. I hope to see them brought to justice someday.
The Hebron kids didn't fare so well. The rest of us that are surviving are pretty busy. It is difficult to put a lot of time in here. Gotta work massive hours to pay for gas to get to work you know. I feel like I am in a relay race and just got handed the stick. I assume it gets tiring after fighting these places for years.
very good to meet you,
Tony
Tony:
Scott High, yes. He was not one of the worst staff members in my time. In fact, I suspect he's a pretty decent person--to this day.
"Crimes against humanity" is an an apt phrase for any of the Sembler/Post-Sember-mills, then and now.
I will try to PM you an E-mail address, if I can get my old Fornits account to work. The problem is, I can't seem to access my email account on these computers.
It's very hard to do a thing in this Asian-gamer-nightmare of a cafe. But don't get me wrong--the Thais are wonderful people, truly. Some of the best people on the planet, really.
In any case, I'll see what I can do about finding a better place to write, because I'd really like to get in touch with you. I spent ten-plus months in Hebron, and never got past second phase. Balinger ultimately stuck me in solitary confinement, after months and months on first phase, till I broke down and got motivated. I ran after my first journey home in many months--and never went back. My mother just didn't have the tenacity to stick with it, so I was lucky.
Richard
Scott High was on Senior staff when I was in there and was my counselor. He wasn't bad compared to most of the other staff. He left KHK while I was on my phases and became a cop in Ft. Mitchell, KY. I don't know where he is today. I would say he was one of the better people in there. Although, we were all part of the machine once we were brainwashed. It sounds like they never actually brainwashed you. Did they? By 2nd phase I didn't have enough of my mind left to want to leave. Wow, 10 months. How long did you spend in solitary? You must have had a strong mind.
When do you expect to get back to the states? Good luck with the computer situation.
Tony
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Yeah thanks for the wonderful compliment Richard,
-Dp
DP:
I'm sorry! I thought of you right after I posted. Till recently, you are the only KHK person who ever put any serious effort into this forum (I've never had the energy to put in more than a few cents' worth)--so, please, please accept my apology. I gave up my Fornits addiction a long time ago, and this is my first time posting anything in many months.
In fairness, though, I do check this forum from time to time, and, you have to admit, it is pretty dead in the water. Compared with the Straightlings' domain, this place might as well not exist. Where are all the KHK people? It really is a mystery, considering the fact that our experiences in Hebron are virtually no different from any of theirs. They just toned down the physical abuse for us--a little, for I did see some--and instead threatened to ship us off to Milford if we stepped out of line, where they would surely bloody our faces if we refused to submit to their dehumanizing coercive persuasion ad nauseam.
Again, sorry. My efforts have been miniscule compared with people like you, W. E., Ginger, nonconformistlaw, Sammy, and many, many others. I just haven't figured out how to stay in the fight and also balance such efforts with a meaningful, fruitful existence. But I'm very glad to have met you in 2006. And I'd love to pay Milford another visit some time. Maybe when it's warm!
Take care.
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Yeah thanks for the wonderful compliment Richard,
-Dp
One more thing:
I should try to stay in touch with you, also--and others. There's just something inside of me that keeps holding me back. In 2006, I was spending many hours a day on this issue. I suppose it's a question of balance, once again. I went through so many fierce, complicated emotions back then--dredging the whole thing up is extremely problematic, as I'm sure you know. I wish I could figure out a way to become active without becoming so absorbed in the issue that I can't manage any other creative functions in my life. Unfortunately, there's probably not a way to become a serious activist without forfeiting an awful lot. Does a hobbyist activist accomplish anything of serious value?
But you are definetely someone I should get in touch with again. Alas, the Fornits cult is pulling me in! Well, I will, anyway!
Till I get out of Asia . . .
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Yeah thanks for the wonderful compliment Richard,
-Dp
And I do read your posts with "much interest and enthusiasm" too. You are a good writer. O.K., enough apologies. I guess the new KHK person got me all excited.
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Yeah thanks for the wonderful compliment Richard,
-Dp
And I do read your posts with "much interest and enthusiasm" too. You are a good writer. O.K., enough apologies. I guess the new KHK person got me all excited.
Richard,
Apology accepted!
What the heck are ye doing in Thailand anyways?
Just wondering.....
Didn't ye used to be in Mass. or something?
Long time no talk eh?
BTW I do totally understand what ye mean about getting so absorbed that ye have to back off from time to time. This is how I have found to do it, just by backing off from time to time. Also having a grounded support system of friends or family to mull things over with helps me a lot too.
If this is any inspiration I will offer it: I am a single mother of two children, and I work full time as well. It is a juggling act for sure.
I am happy to report that my son is getting all A's, and that my daughter is getting Mostly A's with a few B's. I am also happy to report that they are two wonderful and happily adjusted children in which I love dearly. I involve them in my activism, it has become part of family time at times, just because I am helping to protect them by doing the things that I do as well, and also protecting their friends.
They love me for that, and I love them for being who they are, open minded , caring , thoughtful individuals.
Now all that being said: I am usually dead tired and on a lot of coffee...lol
I have found though, that the activism part of it all, helps to heal me more and more from the awful Hebron. experience.
Try this one as well: My mother lives 5 minutes by car from that building, and when I visit I have to drive by it everytime. Talk about in my face.
So, it becomes really all about stress management.
By saying all of the things that I just said to you I do not for one min. want ye to think that I am perfectly healing or something b/c I am not. To be honest when my health insurance kicks back in I am going back to therapy to do some more EMDR (eye movement Desensatization & reprocessing). mainly b/c I have come a long long way from where I have been but I still got a lot of way to get to where I am going.
So, take it easy on yourself, see if some of my methods work for ye, if they don't , then don't stop exploring until ye find the right ones for you!
one more note and then I promise to step down from my soap box:
Whether we push this place under our rugs or not....something always seems to push itself out from under the darn rug when we don't want it to, ye know? I just choose to deal with it head on b/c I am sick and tired of being scared of it and living in that fear.
I hope ye are well, and have a good night, and be safe!
warm regards,
-DP
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Yeah thanks for the wonderful compliment Richard,
-Dp
And I do read your posts with "much interest and enthusiasm" too. You are a good writer. O.K., enough apologies. I guess the new KHK person got me all excited.
At least I am exciting someone. I hope you aren't friends with John Mark Karr!
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Yeah thanks for the wonderful compliment Richard,
-Dp
And I do read your posts with "much interest and enthusiasm" too. You are a good writer. O.K., enough apologies. I guess the new KHK person got me all excited.
At least I am exciting someone. I hope you aren't friends with John Mark Karr!
Note to self:
You asked for it. Welcome back to Fornits.
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Hey Richard,
When you comin back to our neck of the woods? Got a lot to tell you.
Tony
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Hey Richard,
When you comin back to our neck of the woods? Got a lot to tell you.
Tony
I'm out of Karr Country and blithering along in Luang Prabang, Laos. I just read about the protest yesterday. I was in transit when it happened. I was at the last one, in February 2006, and saw at least two familiar faces in the recently posted pics. Beautiful job. I wish I could have been there. Great quotes from you in the Beacon, too (read: Seventh of May academies).
I should be stateside January 15th, and am looking forward to E-mailing or talking on the phone. Till then . . .
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Excellent,
I heard you were at the last one. I think this protest was a good start for me. I plan on having several more.
You can send an e-mail to: programtruth@hotmail.com
I wouldn't mind hearing about Hebron in 83' , there aren't a lot of us hebronites out here. for me it was 86' and my sister it was 92'. DP was 89'. That's all I can recollect at the moment.
Safe trip home, talk to you then,
Tony
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Richard,
I was in there (1983)when you came to KHK and remember even car-pooling to Centerville when you hit second phase. I now live just a couple of miles from where you lived in Centerville.
Sorry that I haven't been blowing my horn in protest but two jobs, two kids, dog obedience training and a band keep my away from my fornits addiction that I acquired a while back.
I also have similar views to why our numbers are so few compared to the straightlings. Although, there is one more thing. KHK back then was smaller (much) than Milford so the success rate was considerably higher. When that is the case then you have less people carrying it with them so heavily twenty years later. The graduates either were brainwashed for good and they remain programmed to this day, or returned to normalcy within a few years like myself or are too busy to go hunting for something like this.
I found it unhealthy for a while especially hanging around in the straight forums. I would dig up all those old memories and it would completely change my mood and demeanor around the house. The last thing my kids need is grumpy dad b/c he's digging up the past and getting angry about it. It's good to check back in though and catch posts from you and see that there is still some life here.
Keep me posted of future protests as I'm about 90 minutes away.
To remember Staff:
John Poole was the most senior of staff with his little "fuck" buddy Anne and they dished out all sorts of drama in fucked up raps. Big Ben was another Sr. Staffer and I remember Scott Hi as well. There was Kelly (with Farrah Hair) Shit, I was on Jr. Staff training but was smart and split after my 6 mo. was up. When I was training I found out about all the staff that were totally full of shit, banging each other in the offices and doing drugs after school.....it was stupid so I split and decided to rejoin a band since they took that a way for a year of my life.
Kathy Balinger was an evil being and was present for some of the more serious raps as well as tormenting the daily kid who wouldn't budge.......I remember this for Richard......it was not pretty.
I'll check in from time to time.
Stay in touch if you can.
John
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I was in KHK in 1983, and have been reading your posts with much interest and enthusiasm. Even in Northern Thailand, I can't escape my memories of the Hebron Hilton. The computers in this Internet cafe are early-Clinton-era, so I can't work on them too well. However, when I get back to the States, I'd really like to get in touch with you. The KHK forum has been seriously lacking in meaningful discourse since I first found it in 2006, and I'm glad someone from Hebron is putting in the hours!
The person I'd really like to see pay, by the way, is Kathy Balinger (SP?), head psychologist in KHK at the time of my incarceration. She once called herself "Our God." Or, to quote her almost verbatim: "In here, I am your higher power, I am your God." Was she still running the show in your time? She had full knowledge of the physical abuse going on in Straight, Milford. I've had no luck tracking her down over the years, but I'd love to find her. She is as guilty as the abusers in Straight.
I would PM you, but I can't get my old account to work. Still, I'd love to do E-mail sometime.
Richard
Chang Mai?
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Hobo Chang Ba?
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Richard,
I was in there (1983)when you came to KHK and remember even car-pooling to Centerville when you hit second phase. I now live just a couple of miles from where you lived in Centerville.
Sorry that I haven't been blowing my horn in protest but two jobs, two kids, dog obedience training and a band keep my away from my fornits addiction that I acquired a while back.
I also have similar views to why our numbers are so few compared to the straightlings. Although, there is one more thing. KHK back then was smaller (much) than Milford so the success rate was considerably higher. When that is the case then you have less people carrying it with them so heavily twenty years later. The graduates either were brainwashed for good and they remain programmed to this day, or returned to normalcy within a few years like myself or are too busy to go hunting for something like this.
I found it unhealthy for a while especially hanging around in the straight forums. I would dig up all those old memories and it would completely change my mood and demeanor around the house. The last thing my kids need is grumpy dad b/c he's digging up the past and getting angry about it. It's good to check back in though and catch posts from you and see that there is still some life here.
Keep me posted of future protests as I'm about 90 minutes away.
To remember Staff:
John Poole was the most senior of staff with his little "fuck" buddy Anne and they dished out all sorts of drama in fucked up raps. Big Ben was another Sr. Staffer and I remember Scott Hi as well. There was Kelly (with Farrah Hair) Shit, I was on Jr. Staff training but was smart and split after my 6 mo. was up. When I was training I found out about all the staff that were totally full of shit, banging each other in the offices and doing drugs after school.....it was stupid so I split and decided to rejoin a band since they took that a way for a year of my life.
Kathy Balinger was an evil being and was present for some of the more serious raps as well as tormenting the daily kid who wouldn't budge.......I remember this for Richard......it was not pretty.
I'll check in from time to time.
Stay in touch if you can.
John
John:
Good to hear from you. I would like to find Balinger, but she's out of reach because of spelling errors. Do you remember the exact spelling of her name? If I could get that somehow, it would be easy to track her down via search engines or white pages. It would be good to find her (assuming she's still alive), as her capacity for deception, coercion, and psychological abuse was notable, and she should have to answer for her abuses of power. Also, as I've stated many times on this forum, she had full knowledge of the physical abuse in Milford and elsewhere, which makes her equally guilty. You remember how Straight was used as an intimate psychological weapon against noncompliance? We were always just one step away from getting shipped to Milford, where they'd bloody our faces. She exploited this advantage to the fullest. I'd like to target whatever professional situation she is in, aiming for her peers. Even if they don't believe a word about her former incarnation, it would be justice enough to let her know that people are out there who haven't forgotten. But I think I could hit her much harder than that. We'll see. I need the correct spelling of her name first.
Again, to clarify my stance on the lack of KHK people. In Straight, physical abuse was built into the protocol. In KHK, on the other hand, physical abuse was a spontaneous byproduct of the same system of coercive persuasion as Straight. The creators of KHK decided to form a new program in which physical abuse was not necessarily a daily thing. Therefore, the frequency of physical abuse was significantly less visible, and this is why I believe less KHK people are vocal today. Otherwise, Straight and KHK were/are identical. And remember, the very fact that so-called professionals decided to form KHK, a program based in almost every way on a very destructive system, is telling. Imagine being a professional concerned with teenage drug use and choosing as your model a program that beats, starves, and psychologically rapes children. Why would you even choose this as your model? It's telling, and damning.
Another thing. Did you know that a Zumbiel is on the board of KHK? Robert Zumbiel? Is he the father of the Zumbiel brothers, or one of the Zumbiel brothers himself? The oldest Zumbiel infuriated me. How anyone over the age of eighteen could choose to remain in KHK, regardless of familial consequences, inspired my heartfelt contempt at the time. And still does. Rotting on the pews, I would have given anything to walk freely, without obstruction, into the Hebron wilderness. And people like him had the chance and squandered that freedom for voluntary mental abuse.
So many names. If I get to Milford again, you should take a ride up there with me. There are always potential intakes, and protest will lessen them, if nothing else. I'll E-mail you sometime.
Richard
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Richard and whoever else... if you go to the KY Sec of State website, business services, organization search, type in Tristate drug rehabilitation and counseling program inc, you'll come up with this:
Organization Number 0156325
Name TRI-STATE DRUG REHABILITATION AND COUNSELING PROGRAM, INC.
Profit or Non-Profit N - Non-profit
Company Type KCO - Kentucky Corporation
Status I - Inactive
Standing G - Good
State KY
File Date 2/6/1980
Organization Date 2/6/1980
Last Annual Report 7/20/2005
Principal Office 6070 BRANCH HILL GUINEA PIKE
MILFORD, OH 45150-2220
Registered Agent FBT LLC
400 WEST MARKET STREET
32ND FLOOR
LOUISVILLE, KY 40202
Current Officers
President Joan P. Lauch
Vice President Cathy Leahy
Secretary John Williams
Treasurer Thomas L. Plaut
Director Joan P. Lauch
Director Cathy Leahy
Director John Williams
Incorporators and Initial Directors
Director ROGER BELANGER
Incorporator JUDY SANDLIN
Director DALLAS SANDLIN
Director PAT BELANGER
Director JUDY SANDLIN
This organization has no assumed names
Previous Names
STRAIGHT-MIDWEST, INC.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Now, before I forget, back in a 2005, 4 or 3 khk newsletter, there was a "In Memory of" section and Roger Belanger was in it. So, maybe Pat was his wife? Either way, Roger is dead now.
Hope this helps
FD
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Richard and whoever else... if you go to the KY Sec of State website, business services, organization search, type in Tristate drug rehabilitation and counseling program inc, you'll come up with this:
Organization Number 0156325
Name TRI-STATE DRUG REHABILITATION AND COUNSELING PROGRAM, INC.
Profit or Non-Profit N - Non-profit
Company Type KCO - Kentucky Corporation
Status I - Inactive
Standing G - Good
State KY
File Date 2/6/1980
Organization Date 2/6/1980
Last Annual Report 7/20/2005
Principal Office 6070 BRANCH HILL GUINEA PIKE
MILFORD, OH 45150-2220
Registered Agent FBT LLC
400 WEST MARKET STREET
32ND FLOOR
LOUISVILLE, KY 40202
Current Officers
President Joan P. Lauch
Vice President Cathy Leahy
Secretary John Williams
Treasurer Thomas L. Plaut
Director Joan P. Lauch
Director Cathy Leahy
Director John Williams
Incorporators and Initial Directors
Director ROGER BELANGER
Incorporator JUDY SANDLIN
Director DALLAS SANDLIN
Director PAT BELANGER
Director JUDY SANDLIN
This organization has no assumed names
Previous Names
STRAIGHT-MIDWEST, INC.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Now, before I forget, back in a 2005, 4 or 3 khk newsletter, there was a "In Memory of" section and Roger Belanger was in it. So, maybe Pat was his wife? Either way, Roger is dead now.
Hope this helps
FD
Thanks for the info, but I'm afraid it's the same dead-end I keep coming to in Internet searches. Her name is Kathy or Cathy, and I've tried every variation possible including full names. Patricia Belanger, probably the same person here, is still on the board of KHK. I've studied her picture on the Belanger Group Website, and it's not the person I'm looking for. However, the woman I'm searching for could be related to Roger Belanger. Examining Roger might lead somewhere. Marriage could be road-blocking this endeavor also, although anyone as megalomaniacal as her would at least use a hyphen to keep her last name in the bargain.
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"dead-end" :rofl: mahvelus pun there dude, :rofl: Maybe she's dead too :wink:
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Richard,
She was apparently before my time, but did ye try Katherine or Catherine?
Just wondering...
If I find anything I will surely let ye know.
Screenplay is closer to being finished by the way, just thought ye should know since ye indicated that ye liked my writing.
Was she an RN?
http://http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=191200295#ref191200295
Or could this be her?
http://http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=54065737
-DP
Richard and whoever else... if you go to the KY Sec of State website, business services, organization search, type in Tristate drug rehabilitation and counseling program inc, you'll come up with this:
Organization Number 0156325
Name TRI-STATE DRUG REHABILITATION AND COUNSELING PROGRAM, INC.
Profit or Non-Profit N - Non-profit
Company Type KCO - Kentucky Corporation
Status I - Inactive
Standing G - Good
State KY
File Date 2/6/1980
Organization Date 2/6/1980
Last Annual Report 7/20/2005
Principal Office 6070 BRANCH HILL GUINEA PIKE
MILFORD, OH 45150-2220
Registered Agent FBT LLC
400 WEST MARKET STREET
32ND FLOOR
LOUISVILLE, KY 40202
Current Officers
President Joan P. Lauch
Vice President Cathy Leahy
Secretary John Williams
Treasurer Thomas L. Plaut
Director Joan P. Lauch
Director Cathy Leahy
Director John Williams
Incorporators and Initial Directors
Director ROGER BELANGER
Incorporator JUDY SANDLIN
Director DALLAS SANDLIN
Director PAT BELANGER
Director JUDY SANDLIN
This organization has no assumed names
Previous Names
STRAIGHT-MIDWEST, INC.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Now, before I forget, back in a 2005, 4 or 3 khk newsletter, there was a "In Memory of" section and Roger Belanger was in it. So, maybe Pat was his wife? Either way, Roger is dead now.
Hope this helps
FD
Thanks for the info, but I'm afraid it's the same dead-end I keep coming to in Internet searches. Her name is Kathy or Cathy, and I've tried every variation possible including full names. Patricia Belanger, probably the same person here, is still on the board of KHK. I've studied her picture on the Belanger Group Website, and it's not the person I'm looking for. However, the woman I'm searching for could be related to Roger Belanger. Examining Roger might lead somewhere. Marriage could be road-blocking this endeavor also, although anyone as megalomaniacal as her would at least use a hyphen to keep her last name in the bargain.
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I don't remember a Kathy Balinger. I worked at KHK from its start until about 1982 or 1983. My parents are Pat and Roger Belanger, and Pat would not be the person referenced in this thread. I would be happy to ask my mother about a Kathy Balinger and see what she says, if it helps.
David Belanger
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I have a some questions, the answers of which would help fill in some gaps...
Do you know if there was a lawyer from Cincinatti (Castellini) who was working on or closely with the Board of Directors?
What was Dr. Katkin's role and why did he leave?
Did you ever see George Ross in group? Penny Walker? What about Miller Newton?
Is there any documentation you can provide to help solve these and other questions?
I only have copies of the corporate docs, some program materials, newsletters, 2 MI's, one RSA and a copy of one fee recovery court case from near that time frame. I would love to acquire more if they are available.
RG