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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: psy on November 06, 2007, 02:41:24 PM
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How many times is this? Now she's backed off libel she's heading on to trademark infringement. Aaah how I just adore intellectual property law.
http://www.fornits.com/docs/sueschefftruth.pdf (http://www.fornits.com/docs/sueschefftruth.pdf)
@Sue Scheff:
Well established common law trademark right? LOL. Whatever, Sue. See Fallwell V. Cohn (http://http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2002/d2002-0184.html) and suck a dick. Fallwell, unlike yourself actualy had trademarked his name so he stood more of a shot than you (which isn't much).
You want to take this to court. Fine by me, you self destructive insane cunt. Let's see you on the stand again, I'll make sure there are transcripts. And be sure to ask your fancy-ass lawyers about "legitimate noncommercial fair use".
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How many times is this? Now she's backed off libel she's heading on to trademark infringement. Aaah how I just adore intellectual property law.
http://www.fornits.com/docs/sueschefftruth.pdf (http://www.fornits.com/docs/sueschefftruth.pdf)
@Sue Scheff:
Well established common law trademark right? LOL. Whatever, Sue. See Fallwell V. Cohn (http://http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2002/d2002-0184.html) and suck a dick. Fallwell, unlike yourself actualy had trademarked his name so he stood more of a shot than you (which isn't much).
You want to take this to court. Fine by me, you self destructive insane cunt. Let's see you on the stand again, I'll make sure there are transcripts. And be sure to ask your fancy-ass lawyers about "legitimate noncommercial fair use".
I'm amazed Psy how you continue to say such foul things. I think if I were you, I might not go on here calling people self destructive insane cunts. I think if anyone is being self destructive, it is you. You are really enjoying this game, aren't you? It's going to really suck though when you realize it's no longer a game. Actually, I am just going to say, I told you so!
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:rofl:
Hey. Sue.
Yeah, guess who? Its me. That guy you wanted to sue but couldn't.
I bet you wish you had by now. And if not, let me just say that the reason fornits is standing up to your fat, greedy ass, and our host isn't caving, is because of me.
ENJOY YOUR AIDS, BITCH!
(http://http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8683/enjoyadesyj1.jpg)
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I'm amazed Psy how you continue to say such foul things. I think if I were you, I might not go on here calling people self destructive insane cunts. I think if anyone is being self destructive, it is you. You are really enjoying this game, aren't you? It's going to really suck though when you realize it's no longer a game. Actually, I am just going to say, I told you so!
Apparently "Free speech" is something you lack a comprehension of!
So, CCM, after just showing your hand here, what's your connection to Suebitch, hmm?
She's a liar, a crook, and we kind of have proof of that from when WWASPS tried to "sue" sue-sue. She's trying to shut us up instead of refuting what we say, and we completely intend on owning her whiney ass in court.
She doesn't like people mentioning the skeletons in her closet and is resorting to legal strong-arm tactics to squelch us. As I've said before, I think everyone has the right to say what they want - but not to force it on others or shut others up. So, well, she's in for it.
:wave:
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(http://http://www.gorillahub.com/dreamstime_gorilla%206.jpg)
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WASSUP MY 'RILLA?
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:rofl:
Hey. Sue.
Yeah, guess who? Its me. That guy you wanted to sue but couldn't.
I bet you wish you had by now. And if not, let me just say that the reason fornits is standing up to your fat, greedy ass, and our host isn't caving, is because of me.
ENJOY YOUR AIDS, BITCH!
(http://http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8683/enjoyadesyj1.jpg)
I have no connections to Sue. I have never spoken to the woman, or exchanged any type of emails with her. I just think that your foul mouth is digging you all into a hole.
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I have no connections to Sue. I have never spoken to the woman, or exchanged any type of emails with her. I just think that your foul mouth is digging you all into a hole.
OOH... Are you gonna consequence me. ::nails:: Although I do find it interesting you defend yourself from an implication/accusation that was never made. Are you defending her simply out of ignorance (you claim to have never met or spoke to her), or because her anger against Fornits coincides with yours?
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Ms. Scheff will have no choice but to avail itself of all legal relief available against you.
Freud strikes again.
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No, I just hate to hear people cry about how she slaps them with a lawsuit, when she gives them plenty of warning. It's like you're just asking for it! I think what your doing is really stupid.
Geez, gotta love this spam. :roll:
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The lady lawyer of Sue-Sue (guess it's not kosher to say her name, huh?) explains this "INTELECTUAL PROPERTY" that Sue-Sue seems concerned about:
By Gabrielle C. Bozza, Esq. , Courtesy of Create Magazine
While the potential exposure and market penetration for businesses in cyberspace is endless, so is the potential for infringement and theft of company secrets, brand identifiers and other intellectual property. It is now (more then ever) important to protect these assets. Doing so in our high-tech world goes beyond worrying about whether or not someone will use your company's name or mark on a sign or in an ad. The very nature of the World Wide Web opens up a new litany of potential problems and possible infringements.
Some ways to protect your company's intellectual property online include:
1. First and foremost, identify what intellectual property you have on your site. For example, company names, logos and slogans may be entitled to trademark protection. Pictures, editorial content, layout and even sounds on the site are some examples of copyrightable works. Register these forms of intellectual property on a national and, if applicable, international basis. Registration serves as notice to the public that you are the rightful owner of the work and will help if you have to file a lawsuit to protect those rights.
2. Affix the appropriate symbol (i.e. TM, © or ®) at the bottom of each Web page and with all uses of your corporate name, logo and tagline. Again, this serves as notice of ownership and prevents an infringer from claiming that he or she did not know they were doing anything wrong.
3. Beware of cyber squatters who may register versions of your company name in hopes of selling the domain back to you for inflated prices. The most recent example of this situation is when someone registered "Pope Benedict XVI" prior to his appointment.
4. Be sure to have an attorney draft various agreements to be posted on the site, such as Terms of Use, which should include provisions related to intellectual property rights and Privacy Policy, which will inform visitors whether and how you use information about them collected on your site.
5. Prior to the creation of your Web site, have the developer sign a "Work For Hire" agreement to ensure that you own all of the intellectual property rights associated with the site. If you are the creator of artistic works, such as photographs or designs, you should make sure you are credited for the works. Provide the site on which the works will be displayed with a limited release, which does not allow the works to be distributed or reproduced in any way other than the consented uses.
6. Remember to register updated versions of your site for copyright protection whenever changes are made. Although it may be impractical to register versions each time your site undergoes some change, it is important to do so when there is a substantial change in the copyrightable works. This step will ensure that the works are protected in their most recent form.
7. Keep in mind that the laws of other countries differ from the United States. Consult with your attorney to make sure you are protected (and not infringing) in the countries where you do business.
8. Be careful not to infringe on other's rights. Make sure that your site does not contain any works or marks that are owned by others. Also, when linking to a third party Web site, the best practice is to enter into a linking agreement with any site that provides a link to yours. If this is not feasible, be sure to only link to the third party's homepage.
9. Have employees and others who are exposed to your company's trade secrets sign a confidentiality agreement. Otherwise, you may find those secrets posted on the Web for the world to see. Apple recently experienced this crisis when their proprietary information was posted on the Web. Because the damage was already done, Apple was not in a position to undo the harm.
10. Have users who submit pictures and/or testimonials for posting on your site sign a release and authorization for your use.
There are pros and cons when expanding into the world of e-commerce. Recognizing the risks is half the battle. The other half is taking action to decrease those risks through evaluating your site, monitoring online activity and implementing the steps noted above.
About the Author:
A member of Broad and Cassel's Commercial Litigation and Intellectual Property Practice Groups, Gabrielle C. Bozza, Esq. has assisted clients in a number of situations involving intellectual property and entertainment law issues. She is active with the Florida Bar's Entertainment, Arts and Sports Law Section and the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. She was a guest lecturer on music privacy for the University of Miami School of Communications and has hosted several roundtable discussions on entertainment related topics. She earned a bachelor's degree from the University of Central Florida and a Juris Doctorate from Nova Southeastern University, Shepard Broad Law Center. She may be reached at gbozza@broadandcassel.com or 954.764.7060.
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ccm girl, I've defended you alot here, but seriously, don't loiter just to play devil's advocate. You talk about not giving people control, but thats precisely what you're doing,when make your life about some folks on the internet who are nasty to you. It's damaging for you. You also end up advocating for people that are appalling. Just stop.
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No, I just hate to hear people cry about how she slaps them with a lawsuit, when she gives them plenty of warning. It's like you're just asking for it! I think what your doing is really stupid.
Thank you, CCM!
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the posters of fornits need the perpetuate the myth they are victims. victims of programs, victims of their parents, and if they were never in a program or abused-sue scheff.
there are many other parents who refer to abusive programs, you dont hear about them though. they build up the myth of scheff and play the victim card.
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No, I just hate to hear people cry about how she slaps them with a lawsuit, when she gives them plenty of warning. It's like you're just asking for it! I think what your doing is really stupid.
Thank you, CCM!
Why Sue.... I take it that you've got the hots for little Miss Brainwashed. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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the posters of fornits need the perpetuate the myth they are victims. victims of programs, victims of their parents, and if they were never in a program or abused-sue scheff.
there are many other parents who refer to abusive programs, you dont hear about them though. they build up the myth of scheff and play the victim card.
Where?
I'm busy trying to make those very programs victims of us!
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I'm busy trying to make those very programs victims of us!
This is what is known as the "correct approach".
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I'm busy trying to make those very programs victims of us!
How's that working out for you?
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How can the name "SUE SCHEFF" be copyrighted or trade marked; when a very famous engineer has the same name?
Sue Scheff, Women in Engineering, was on the program for the first "Women in Science,Mathematics, Engineering and Technology Roundtable" meeting hosted by Chancellor Elizabeth Zinser on Wednesday, January 31, 2001, at the UK Hilary J. Boone Faculty Center.Participants from universities across the state of Kentucky attended.Miscellaneous EE 599 - Wireless Communications is a new course offered in the Department of ElectricalEngineering beginning the Spring 2001 semester.
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Do a google search: There are other "Sue Scheff's" in this world.
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And look: Here's SUE SCHEFF, the engineer, along with "GINGER."
Amazingly, there are common names to be found on the internet.
Minutes
Death by Chocolate
September 12, 2000
Congratulations! New Historian: Amber May
New ESC Representative: Amanda Ratliffe
New Programs Co-Directors: Meghan Flynn and Michelle Lucas
New Fundraising Director: Anna Marshall
Community Service Event:
Race for the Cure is a 5K (3.1 mile) run/walk taking place in downtown Lexington on Saturday, September 30. The race begins at 8:45 a.m. Anyone interested in participating as a member of the "SWE Team," please contact Amy Watson (our community service director) at www.lexrftc.org (http://www.lexrftc.org).
Team Tech:
Anyone (even freshmen without any prior engineering experience) can participate in this competition. As a member of a team, you will work on designing a creative solution to an engineering problem. UK SWE has traditionally performed well at the national level in this competition. Be aware that this project will require a weekly commitment (most likely starting in the spring). Contact Melissa Clark (rjbarg0@pop.uky.edu (http://mailto:rjbarg0@pop.uky.edu)) if you are interested.
Tutoring:
UK SWE will be tutoring middle school students from 16:00 to 17:00 every Tuesday at Morton Middle School. You do not have to participate every Tuesday (even once a month is fine). Transportation, if needed, can be provided with the assistance of Melissa Clark or Becky Bargo (emails listed above). Please contact them if interested.
Woodland Park "Technology Fair":
UK SWE will be holding an edible car competition as part of a "technology fair" at Woodland Park this weekend. Contact Melissa Clark or Becky Bargo (emails listed under Team Tech) if interested.
Phi Sigma Rho:
This is a sorority for engineering students. If interested, feel free to attend the no-obligation mingle meeting on September 13 at 7:30 PM in Ovid’s at the Young Library.
Membership:
Anyone who has not yet officially registered as a SWE member can contact our membership director, Ginger Anderson (http://www.engr.uky.edu/student.orgs/swe (http://www.engr.uky.edu/student.orgs/swe)
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Ms. Gabrielle C. Bozza writes, "Ms. Scheff intends on pursuing any and action she may have against the owners of these sites for, among other things......unfair competition..."
UNFAIR COMPTITION?
Does anyone believe for a second that any of the owners of these "sites" are in competition with Sue Scheff/PURE?
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If she thinks we are competing,
what she is doing is a stupid way of eliminating her competitors.
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Huh? Latham Act?
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did not know where this picture is referenced from, but i posted it because it seems funny.
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Ladies and gentlemen.....[chirp... chirp] ok, ok, fornicators and fuckwads, this is actually a serious issue. Sue has put us smack dab in the middle of one of the most important first amendment issues of the day. Technically, leagally, you can call her a cunt and a whore and even joke about her religion (hint to those who lack a sense of humour, she's no jewish) but that really just garners her sympathy from people who haven't got the time or interest to study the real issues. These folks make up the vast majority of the public.
It is reprehensible that she would victimize children and families once by refering them to abusive programs, then twice by legal bullying when the victims try to speak out. It's beyond the pale that she would pretend to be an advocate for these same victims and threaten, bully and sue the hell out of anyone who dares to ask questions like "To which programs and schools do you refer?", "Exactly how do you go about ensuring that they're safe and effective?" and "How do you make your money?" It would be laughable that she would send off silly, fallacious letters like the ones to Godaddy and Netfirms, till you consider the state of our tort and business world that made those works of fiction effective. That's worth crying over.
But now it's different. This demand letter comes from an actual law firm. And it doesn't read like Boss Hog like some of the other legal letters I've seen coming from this industry. These guys might be smart. And if they are, they're chortling from here over all the silly shit you guys are posting. If you want to help the Fornits and, while we're at it, help to discourage the sort of things Sue Scheff does, please stick to the real.
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Hmmm, might this be a good time to fire the first shot across the bow? In other words, answer with a counter suit of your own? My advice is to consult with a top-flight first amendment lawyer and then fire off a letter to the GAO and the FTC. The best defense is an offense.
Just my 2.5 cents. I am not a lawyer.
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Lawyers cost money eh? Anyone want to start the fornits defense fund?
Though my stronger suggestion would be the relocation to sweden fund.
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How about our neighbors Canada?
Once again...
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the canucks booted us out already.
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First off, Ginger, no they don't know what they're doing. The damn thing was a form letter and they even forgot to change the "itself". I only wonder how many different lawyers Sue-Sue had to go through before someone would take her seriously.
Second, Sue's pissing off Janus with this. Janus will probably bring in his friends, who will start momentum purely for the lulz, and then the Anonymous of the Chans will get involved, and then my friends we have a boiling cauldron of hate ready to make some Sue Soup.
Third, if we somehow DID get a Swedish host, it really would end this pretty quick. No one can take out The Pirate Bay, and many have tried. If you think a few greedy cunts can touch us THERE... :D
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[Second, Sue's pissing off Janus with this. Janus will probably bring in his friends, who will start momentum purely for the lulz, and then the Anonymous of the Chans will get involved, and then my friends we have a boiling cauldron of hate ready to make some Sue Soup.]
Is this a threat, a conspiracy, or both?
Not a great time to start going on record with this kind of drivel, my friend.
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janus already has been crying like a 3 year old. Though in his defense getting purple nerpled by a law firm at his age must be an unsettling experience to say the least.
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Who is Janus?
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heres the thing about sociopaths if you are not familiar with their intimidation tactics they can be intimidating but you have to call their bluff. a sociopath as no real leg to stand on and an intelligent profesional can easily out them. unfortunately sociopaths wreak alot of havoc and its important to protect yourself from thim this is precicely why parents should not turn their children over to them. but they are masters of manipulation, they have no conscience and will lie and steal all while telling you they are your friend until you piss them off then they are nastey and vengeful but call their bluff cause there is nothing there no soul no conscience just a puffed up chest and inflated ego...poor children they are the ones the incurred more damage than all us survivors
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then after you call thier bluff and they realize thier bulling did not get the job done they will go back to telling you what you want to hear...but before to long as they keep crossing the line over and over hopefully you will get a clue and protect yourself then they will get mad and their whole cycle starts all over again. they are very funny like a whirling dervish they never outgrew the manipulation tactics they implored as a toddler...it just is much scarier when an adult does it and then finds other adults who iplore these same tactics. my hope is the world is a smarter place now no longer afraid
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So basically, what is it Scheff wants? If it's to prevent people from expressing an opinion of her and/or publish news about her, (e.g. lawsuit filed against her and PURE) on a blog then I think that is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. Perhaps her lawyer should take the time to read Scheff's blogs about Whitmore and the use of a Disney trademarked character to underscore her contention that Whitmore was the victim of a vendetta presumably orchestrated by a real-life villian. I mean, come on. What's that all about?
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poor sad children in big ugly adult bodies now...poor babies they just needed to be loved and noone gave them any love so now they want all to go without. so sad
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poor sad children in big ugly adult bodies now...poor babies they just needed to be loved and noone gave them any love so now they want all to be desroyed and go without love. so sad
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Oh my, my, my, seems Sue has been busy lately promoting free speech and being a voice against Internet Defamation. Even met with with a senator and judge.
Wonder if the senator and the judge have seen and read her blog about Whitmore? Curious if they would agree or disagree that she may have crossed the line, herself?
http://sueschefftruth.wordpress.com/cat ... ernet-law/ (http://sueschefftruth.wordpress.com/category/inernet-law/)
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That's why Sue Scheff is kicking fornits ass, and will prevail. She is out there in the real world doing something to accomplish her goal of shutting down this forum. While fornits posters just sit here talking shit and give her plenty of free ammunition. I hope you enjoyed fornits. while it lasted.
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Kicking Fornit's Ass? LOLS, now WHO's being dramatic?
Ultimately, it appears to me it is the poster who is accountable for the content of their posts, NOT FORNITS. See Below:
Terms of Use
Fornits' Home for Wayward Web Forums is comprised of neary 60 forums at last count. Most are open, unmoderated forums where anyone can post without any editorial oversight or external control or moderation whatever. Most focus on the troubled parent industry, but a few are geared toward lifestyle or general interest type topics.
All of the responsibility for content, legal, karmic or otherwise, rests with the respective authors of the words posted herein. Use of this forum (either by posting messages or just by reading them) implies your acceptance of this policy.
It is your wisdom and your vision that will make this dialog meaningful. This means that, unlike the policies of organizations generally under discussion here, everyone and anyone, even people currently involved in what might be an abusive cult, are welcome to participate in these forums. We (the techs responsible for maintaining this site) are willing to wager that the tactics used by coercive cults will fall flat outside of a controled environment.
Though I can't (and wouldn't want to) control every word posted here, I and the moderators of individual forums reserve the right to delete posts and/or ban users at our sole discretion with wanton disregard for anyone else's opinion of the propriety of such decisions. "Reserve" is the operative term here. We actually try pretty hard to be decent about things, but sometimes ya' just gotta say "Enough is enough, you get no more of my time!"
If you have particular concerns about moderation policies, please contact the moderator of the forum in which you want to post before you start posting! If the moderator is "Nobody" (as is the case with most of them) then there really is no moderator. We will only take action with regard to activity that damages the server or makes it unusable.
As a user of this free forum, you are a guest just as long as you make yourself welcome. We do ask that you follow these few basic guidelines.
With freedom comes responsibility
Bearing in mind that one man's poetry is another man's obscenity, and that censorship is among the worst forms of obscenity, we leave this to your best judgment. There is really no one 'in charge' of this discussion, and we will not intervene on anyone's behalf nor take responsibility for any reprecussions, legal or otherwise, that arise from anyone's words but our own. Any administrators, moderators or other people involved in the operation of this site are free to voice their own views in what ever ways may please them. It is no reflection on the rest of us or on the site itself, which remains a medium of communication, a dumb box of wires and bread boards incapable of crime or tort.
In other words, fornits nor it's advertisers, techs, moderators or forum addicts can be held responsible for the words of any individual.
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Err regarding the last paragraph - is this supposed to read .. "in other words, NEITHER Fornits nor it's ..."
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heres the thing about sociopaths if you are not familiar with their intimidation tactics they can be intimidating but you have to call their bluff. a sociopath as no real leg to stand on and an intelligent profesional can easily out them. unfortunately sociopaths wreak alot of havoc and its important to protect yourself from this is precicely why parents should not turn their children over to them. but they are masters of manipulation, they have no conscience and will lie and steal all while telling you they are your friend until you piss them off then they are nastey and vengeful but call their bluff cause there is nothing there no soul no conscience just a puffed up chest and inflated ego...poor children they are the ones the incurred more damage than all us survivors
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So this letter is to The Planet, the host of the three websites fornits, sueschefftruth.com and careybock.com? Wonder what The Planet's "legal department" response will be? I'm hoping they take the time to investigate the claims made by SS rather than tell these domains to get lost.
If I may make a suggestion, it would be for all three domains to heed SS's own call to "fight back". Get some solid support from orgs like the Electronic Frontier and/or a 1st Amendment lawyer who is willing to defend your rights and will file a counter lawsuit.
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Guys. We're still up. I think The Planet's answer has been well-defined at this point.
Do you guys have any idea what else Janus hosts? Sue Scheff is small fry.
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I have an even better idea, why don't you just do what the creator of Fornits has asked you nicely to do. Stick to the real, and stop calling this woman (Sue) a bunch of foul names, and writing sick stories about her.
Ginger is just getting a headache from it all. I think (assuming of course) that Ginger created this site for people to be able to come to, and connect. To be able to debate the issues at hand. Warn parents about abusive programs, and programs in general. Not so you can post porn, and talk shit about people you don't know.
She's asking you nicely. Whatever, if you can't even do that for her, then you got issues.
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We don't do anything nice for anyone. Haven't you figured that out by now? Not dimwitted parents who read Fornits and then see some kind of need to post after reading the reality on Fornits (Seriously parents, LURK MOAR, and search more Google), not stupid programmie cunts like you, not even Ginger.
Go get your precious validation somewhere the fuck else.
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Not so you can post porn, and talk shit about people you don't know.
Here is a statement form one of the tech's that applies here.
"Bearing in mind that one man's poetry is another man's obscenity, and that censorship is among the worst forms of obscenity, we leave this to your best judgment."[/color]
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Well Botched, I don't think people are using their best judgment when posting. Isn't there plenty of other sites to go on to post that kind of garbage?
Fornits reminds me a little of the country roads where I live. Someone wants to get rid of a TV, a couch, or whatever, and they toss it out on the road! I even one time saw this rickety plywood flatwood trailer full of stuff from someone gutting out their house, and someone left it on the side of the road till the county had to come out to haul it away (3 days later).
People are using Fornits as a dumping grounds. I personally feel like crude nasty porn doesn't really belong here. But, I guess people get off on posting it here. Even the people who are claiming they are trying to get parents to not send their kids to programs. I just don't get it!?!!
You think parents are going to listen to those people those doing this? Hell no!!!!!!!
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You're right, ccm goddess...you have sooo much more class than the average fornits' poster does. :roll:
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CCMgirl, your 15 minutes of fame are over - now please sit down and shut up.
Thanks!
& BTW, when people attack you here, don't wonder why - you are thorn in the side of many, many threads here - your posts are venomous and mean-spirited. It's no wonder why you have NO FRIENDS!!!
Maybe you find a support group for "uptight, misguided and opinionated morons" somewhere in the bay area.
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I agree about the porn but Fornits is not the porn police. It's a discussion board, for cripes sake.
We are all responsible for our own posts and what we choose to read, or not read. We are here as agents of our own free will.
Personally, I find the posts by the Who and CCM to be extremely offensive but will defend their right to have and express an opinion no matter what my "personal" values and beliefs might be.
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& once again, the thread turns into something about CCM - there is something to, that - I guess.
CCM's desperate need for attention - now, that is something to ponder - maybe that's one of the reason's she's so screwed up. You gotta wonder what kind of professional she needs and is not getting.
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Whaddya say we let it die, then?
Looks like Fornits will be ok; end of thread. R.I.P.
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That's because people get off on attacking me. That's mainly because I have my own set of beliefs that not all programs are bad. Whatever, and you know I do have a lot more class then some of you who make sick posts along with pornographic pictures. That's just stating the obvious.
Please go back to Sue, this is NOT about me. This does not need to be turned into a CCM thread (someone was already kind enough to start quite a few of those). But, I can add comments if I damn well please, I am not being disrespectful, so get over it.
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Please go back to Sue, this is NOT about me. This does not need to be turned into a CCM thread (someone was already kind enough to start quite a few of those).
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
It's gotta be about CCM, all the damn time - if it's not about her, she'll make it that way. Please ignore her, folks -
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That's because people get off on attacking me. That's mainly because I have my own set of beliefs that not all programs are bad. Whatever, and you know I do have a lot more class then some of you who make sick posts along with pornographic pictures. That's just stating the obvious.
Please go back to Sue, this is NOT about me. This does not need to be turned into a CCM thread (someone was already kind enough to start quite a few of those). But, I can add comments if I damn well please, I am not being disrespectful, so get over it.
Your pain makes me hungry! I'm hungry for pain! Your death is mine motherfucker! Don't even try to escape! Because you're mine! You are all mine! You're all in my thoughts! I will peel you like a potato! I will take out your brains and throw them to my dogs! Oh shit, you're gonna die! I'm gonna peel off your toenails like they were... cupcakes! Like they were... twinkies! You're dead, motherfucker! My life is nothing but to kill you! Revenge is mine! My words make you wanna scream like a dead dog dying from anger-- and pain-- of a dead dog!
Uhhhhhh... We're gonna kick some ass tonite, motherfucker! Life! Life is mine! I take you with me! I take you, I crumble you up, I wad you into a little ball! Death picks it's teeth with your head! Life! Life is mine! Yup! Revenge is mine! My war jacks off when it sees your revenge! My war is not alone! It's the only war! Anytime you get your ass down here, kick my ass, no problem! My life is better! Don't fuck with me whatsoever! Yup! Revenge is mine! I take it and I leave it! But this one, motherfucker, is mine! And you're not gettin' it! You're the one that's gonna pay this time, CCM! No prob!
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Please go back to Sue, this is NOT about me. This does not need to be turned into a CCM thread (someone was already kind enough to start quite a few of those).
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It's gotta be about CCM, all the damn time - if it's not about her, she'll make it that way. Please ignore her, folks -
Where's The Who?!!! Why am I now your new favorite? I like being the favorite, just not here. You guys are pretty funny. A little crazy, actually some of you A LOT crazy! But, you all have a great day!
We'll see if by tonight this site is down due to your own self destructive behavior.
Ciao,
CCM Goddess
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Where's The Who?!!! Why am I now your new favorite? I like being the favorite, just not here. You guys are pretty funny. A little crazy, actually some of you A LOT crazy! But, you all have a great day!
We'll see if by tonight this site is down due to your own self destructive behavior.
Ciao,
CCM Goddess
Oh no, CCM Goddess!!! :roll:
Please don't GOOOOOO!!!!!! :P :P :P
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That's because people get off on attacking me. That's mainly because I have my own set of beliefs that not all programs are bad. Whatever, and you know I do have a lot more class then some of you who make sick posts along with pornographic pictures. That's just stating the obvious.
Please go back to Sue, this is NOT about me. This does not need to be turned into a CCM thread (someone was already kind enough to start quite a few of those). But, I can add comments if I damn well please, I am not being disrespectful, so get over it.[/[/i][/color]
I would be willing to bet that you are unable to make any post today that are (1) where you are not trying to play a victim role (2) Where you are not being belligerent (3) just being plain rude. (4) or telling people how much better you are than them.
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Where's The Who?!!! Why am I now your new favorite? I like being the favorite, just not here.
You make yourself a target. You can't stand to not be fighting or arguing with someone.....anyone. It seems to be where you're most comfortable. Very typical of programmed people. They thrive on conflict and being able to be the bad ass. And now you've deluded yourself into thinking that we can't stand you because you're too strong in your beliefs for us to handle. You're the sole bastion of reason amongst all us 'crazies'. Oh my god, PLEASE get over yourself.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
We'll see if by tonight this site is down due to your own self destructive behavior.
That would make you a pretty happy girl wouldn't it?
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We'll see if by tonight this site is down due to your own self destructive behavior.
More of CCM's desperate need for attention!!!!
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I would be willing to bet that you are unable to make any post today that are (1) where you are not trying to play a victim role (2) Where you are not being belligerent (3) just being plain rude. (4) or telling people how much better you are than them.
Nailed it!!!!! Uggghhhh! I get so sick of her playing the victim and at the same time slamming other survivors for not being able to just 'get over it'.
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Botched programming - you ask why CCM is so belligerent?
You might as well ask her shrink. The girl obviously has some serious issues - probably some kind of entrenched personality disorder - one can only imagine. It's kind of sad, really. I don't think she's ever going to be right.
I would just ignore her, for the simple fact she's one sick chick. It's not just a difference of opinion she's stating, it's a whole offensive manner of coming across. She's probably some borderline, narcissist with a brain injury. No one can fix that. It seems like her retarded personality is terminal. Pray she doesn't create any offspring - the gene pool will doomed if she does.
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Please go back to Sue, this is NOT about me. This does not need to be turned into a CCM thread (someone was already kind enough to start quite a few of those). But, I can add comments if I damn well please, I am not being disrespectful, so get over it.
I agree 100%. Except... :roll:
I'm shocked to find myself in 'agreement' w/CCMgirl1989!!
It's Gingers site. Do what she asks, or go away!
can we get back on track?
Personally? Every time the site 'goes down', I go open a new web acct w/a Fornits reference ie.Fornitfan, lonesomeForni. So if someone wants me to shut up?...I was being 'quiet' until :question: started bothering the forni!! I'll keep doing that web stuff as long as the site gets 'messed with'.
I don't come here about Sue or theWho or the porn. I come here because I have shitty things in my life because of a shitty solution for a nonexistent problem. I come here because I found people w/the same experiences. I come back to learn.
From my own observations? Sue keeps intervening and causing more problems. (This crap pushes a few buttons for all of us, yes?)*
It feels like being separated from 'family' each time the site goes down.
It's become personal and I get more pissed each time :flame:
...and there's something VERY wrong with this:
she takes money from clients to refer 'babysitting agencies';
she takes money from agencies to refer clients;
she denies getting paid;
kids die. she denies referrals (is that right?);
and then - does it again w/the same agencies.
...and SUES when bloggers talk about it.
Did I get all that right?
...AND...I have rules about anything involving the phrase 'going down'. The 'list of possibles' is real short, and she's not on it!!
Someone stabbed their navigator in the back with a broken moral compass.
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Out of all the tens of thousands of kids who went through programs, only a handful post here. I'm glad most have been able to move on with their lives.
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Out of all the tens of thousands of kids who went through programs, only a handful post here. I'm glad most have been able to move on with their lives.
No CCM.... Most don't know Fornits exist.... But give it time!!!
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Out of all the tens of thousands of kids who went through programs, only a handful post here. I'm glad most have been able to move on with their lives.
No CCM.... Most don't know Fornits exist.... But give it time!!!
Not me suckaaaaaaaaaa! Wrong for the millionth time! LOL, try again.
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But give it time!!!
Fornits will be gone soon, sorry to break it to you. Better start looking for your local PA meetings.
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You make yourself a target. [You can't stand to not be fighting or arguing with someone.....anyone. It seems to be where you're most comfortable. Very typical of programmed people. They thrive on conflict and being able to be the bad ass. And now you've deluded yourself into thinking that we can't stand you because you're too strong in your beliefs for us to handle. You're the sole bastion of reason amongst all us 'crazies'. Oh my god, PLEASE get over yourself.
Someone really needs to work on their "I" statements. Nine "you's", and two "us", whatever that means. You need to learn to speak for yourself and express your opinions better than judging people you don't even know. You, you, you, you, you, you.. just wanted to get those in for good measure to fit in around here. *wink*
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But give it time!!!
Fornits will be gone soon, sorry to break it to you. Better start looking for your local PA meetings.
Nice dream on your part!!!!!! And then you woke up and realized we are still here and will continue to do what we do.
:D
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But give it time!!!
Fornits will be gone soon, sorry to break it to you. Better start looking for your local PA meetings.
Nice dream on your part!!!!!! And then you woke up and realized we are still here and will continue to do what we do.
:D
I enjoy fornits just as much as you do, and hope it remains. It gives me an opportunity to post my opinion, just the same as you. I am going by what the site owner has said, I am not making it up. I am pro-safe-programs and I still donated money to fornits, have you donated money yet?
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You make yourself a target. [You can't stand to not be fighting or arguing with someone.....anyone. It seems to be where you're most comfortable. Very typical of programmed people. They thrive on conflict and being able to be the bad ass. And now you've deluded yourself into thinking that we can't stand you because you're too strong in your beliefs for us to handle. You're the sole bastion of reason amongst all us 'crazies'. Oh my god, PLEASE get over yourself.
Someone really needs to work on their "I" statements. Nine "you's", and two "us", whatever that means. You need to learn to speak for yourself and express your opinions better than judging people you don't even know. You, you, you, you, you, you.. just wanted to get those in for good measure to fit in around here. *wink*
What's your point??
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Someone really needs to work on their "I" statements. Nine "you's", and two "us", whatever that means. You need to learn to speak for yourself and express your opinions better than judging people you don't even know. You, you, you, you, you, you.. just wanted to get those in for good measure to fit in around here. *wink*
Ignore this poster as obviously this person is a Pro-Program propaganda spreading, step cult speaking Troll....[/color]