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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 31, 2007, 04:03:25 PM
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http://suescheff.blogspot.com/ (http://suescheff.blogspot.com/)
Poor Sue, she really doesn't have a clue.
:rofl:
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Wonder if Sue-Sue has a clue if any suvivors or parents might have shared her name and the company name PURE in their possible complaints of alleged abuse to GAO investigators?
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I intend to be active in the development of such policy and work with the GAO.
She could start with providing them a list of the programs she refers to that have lawsuits filed against them.
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Yes, Sue -- Please do contact the GAO though I think they have already finished their investigation into the tragic death of Katie Lank, the child whose parents YOU reportedly referred to the now-defunct Red Rock Ranch Academy according to your statement in the WWASPS v. PURE transcript.
Read the GAO report to learn more about the circumstances surrounding Katie's death. It's absolutely heartbreaking.
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Hey Sue Scheff - be sure to tell the GAO Investigators all about Focal Point Academy where you referred the Green famiy. Remember them? The family who filed a lawsuit against you, your friend, Boyd, and the owner of Focal Point Academy, OK?
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I intend to be active in the development of such policy and work with the GAO.
She could start with providing them a list of the programs she refers to that have lawsuits filed against them.
There's currently:
Focal Point Academy, NV
Whitmore Academy, Utah
Harbor Oaks Boarding School in NC is under investigation by the State of NC.
Any others?
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In this current GAO blog, Scheff states:
I offer sympathy to the families that have been affected by any ill treatment
Wanna bet the Whitmore parents would say "NOT" after reading Scheff's 3 editions of her disgusting, lie-filled Whitmore Blogs?
Would Congressman Miller, his panel, and the GAO Investigators find these Whitmore Academy blogs to be the work of a "sympathetic" person?
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Err ... didn't Scheff used to refer to WWASPS?
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I am joined by other industry professionals
Is Scheff possibly up to her old tricks?
Has Scheff become credentialed on some professional level?
Has Scheff earned some type of college degree, finally?
Has Scheff earned some type of professional license?
What "industry professionals" are joining her?
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Beats me guest.
Gayle Palmer DeGraff?
Marie Peart?
Isabelle Zehnder?
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Mark and Cheryl Sudweeks?
Jim and Patricia Jones?
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Steve Cartisano?
"Pretend Dr." Bernie Farrow?
Bob Boyd?
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Let us not forget her best buddy, Randall Hinton, the guy up for abuse charges, who delighted pepper spraying teens.
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I intend to be active in the development of such policy and work with the GAO.
She could start with providing them a list of the programs she refers to that have lawsuits filed against them.
She could start with providing them a list of the programs she refers to that have lawsuits filed against them.
I am not sure what purpose this would serve. It is never good business to bring up lawsuits or associate lawsuits with any product you are trying to sell. People tend to back away.
For instance if you were selling cars for a living and the couple you were presently showing around decided on a Honda Accord and during the process you mentioned that a couple from California purchased the exact same car and were decapitated on their way home and the extended family is presently suing Honda for faulty breaks and there is another lawsuit pending for a faulty “Air bagâ€
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I intend to be active in the development of such policy and work with the GAO.
She could start with providing them a list of the programs she refers to that have lawsuits filed against them.
She could start with providing them a list of the programs she refers to that have lawsuits filed against them.
I am not sure what purpose this would serve. It is never good business to bring up lawsuits or associate lawsuits with any product you are trying to sell. People tend to back away.
For instance if you were selling cars for a living and the couple you were presently showing around decided on a Honda Accord and during the process you mentioned that a couple from California purchased the exact same car and were decapitated on their way home and the extended family is presently suing Honda for faulty breaks and there is another lawsuit pending for a faulty “Air bagâ€
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Anyone think The Who is correct? That it might not interest the GAO to know about the abusive facilities that Scheff has referred children to that are currently involved in law suits; or the lawsuit that has been filed against Scheff; or the alleged criminals in this industry that Scheff associates with; or the blogs Scheff writes to silence her critics?
What other real professional referral consultants have this type of track record of Ms. Scheff's?
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Anyone think The Who is correct? That it might not interest the GAO to know about the abusive facilities that Scheff has referred children to that are currently involved in law suits; or the lawsuit that has been filed against Scheff; or the alleged criminals in this industry that Scheff associates with; or the blogs Scheff writes to silence her critics?
What other real professional referral consultants have this type of track record of Ms. Scheff's?
I dont think the government is going to ask Sue S. for a list of abusive facilities. They will look towards someone like ASTART for that information. Sue couldnt provide them with anything that they dont already kow.
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THE WHO has sunk to a new ignoramus level.
Yoo-Who .... Ever heard of consumer awareness and proctection?
People who use educational consultants or these so-callled parent resource companies are consumers of a product, in this case, a referral or recommendation to what these businesses often times claim are "pre-screened" programs for troubled youth. There is an element of "trust" that is often present in these businesses sales and marketing efforts (e.g. testimonials, references) not unlike what you would expect to see on any late night informercial for facial creams, makeup, work-out equipment, etc.
When a consumer does not have a satisfactory experience with a product they have received, they are free to register a complaint, file a lawsuit, ask for a refund, etc.
That is the nature of the beast.
An unhappy customer can cost a business much more than a single sale which is why most reputable companies strive to resolve complaints against them to the mutual satisfaction of both parties.
What's different about this business is the fact that when a child dies while in a program, there are no refunds.
There are only wrongful death lawsuits.
And that, Who, makes consumer awareness and protection, as well as mandating full disclosure in this industry extremely important.
See ISAC's watchlist of programs and referrers to get an idea of what I mean.
http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp (http://www.isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp)
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Of course WHO is not correct. His analogy of the car salesman not telling a customer that they could be buying a potential death trap not being good for "business" is exactly why no one listens to the WHO. He's got no moral compass or if he has one, it's stuck on stupid. We are talking about CHILDREN you buffoon, not cars or toasters.
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Risky drugs are covered in warnings.
Risky therapies are only used with INFORMED CONSENT.
The Who is a fucking bastard.
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Guest, the list continues:
The Who
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This has to be the absolutely dumbest thing Sue Scheff has ever done.
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Its just PR. And she's struggling.
She's giving the impression she's some kind of institution or influential or ACTUALLY MATTERS AND THAT ANYONE ACTUALLY CARES (nobody cares of course) and is "working with" the GAO to "solve the problems" and "find safe programs".
I'll just have to edit the ED page :rofl:
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This has to be the absolutely dumbest thing Sue Scheff has ever done.
Just about.
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Seriously? IMHO, the comment Sue Scheff made about red panties on national television was downright bizarre. Did anyone see that? There's a video of the interview somewhere. 20/20 I Caught.
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Huh? :roll: :exclaim:
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Seriously? IMHO, the comment Sue Scheff made about red panties on national television was downright bizarre. Did anyone see that? There's a video of the interview somewhere. 20/20 I Caught.
Close.....
She had a national audience and chose to report that someone had asked, "have you smelled SS panties".
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=277175#277175 (http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=277175#277175)
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Good Lord, that is too funny! Thanks for the link, Deb.
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Broward County Case Number: CACE07018185 State Reporting Number: 062007CA018185AXXXCE
Court Type: CIVIL DIVISION - CIRCUIT COURT Case Type: OTHER CIVIL
Incident Date: N/A Filing Date: 07/31/2007
Court Location: CENTRAL COURTHOUSE Case Status: OPEN
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Relationship Last Name First Name Middle Name Party Type Sex Race Year of D.O.B. D.O.D. ID Type ID Number
001 LEACOCK DAVID AT BARID 000000963496
001 GREEN SCOTT PL
002 SCHEFF SUSAN L DF
003 GREEN MICHELE PL
004 PARENTS UNIVERSAL RESOURCE DF
006 EXPERTS INC DF
008 WHITE KENNETH EUGENE AT BARID 000000725013
008 FOCAL POINT ACADEMY LLC DF
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010 HORLACHER GLEN DF
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CAREY BOCK vs. SUSAN SCHEFF, ETC., ET AL.
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10/19/2007 Appendix Thomas H. Mcgowan 0234052, Appellant (1) (INDEX FILED 10/31/07)
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I think it is safe to say the GAO is keenly aware of the referral industry and in particular, the practice of programs paying finder's fees and other kinds of financial reward for sales leads that result in a placement.
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As much disdain I have for the GAO/Congressional bally ho going at the mo I'm fairly certain Sue is going to be in for a rude surprise.
With any luck our dear friend Mrs. Scheff will be in for a very indepth "rude intrustion" at the nearest penal instution in the near future. I dearly hope this happens soon as I'd like to complete my autobiography on a humorous note.
Page 1 through 5 are just to bland for my liking. A good knee slapper of a story about Sue getting dumped arse over tea kettle after a foolish attenpt at legislative manipulation would make for some quality reading and in the process give me pages 6 and 7 to complete my blasted epic length novel.
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Does anyone have a link to the WWASPS v. PURE transcripts?
Thank you.
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http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=12 (http://www.sueschefftruth.com/?p=12)
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Now that the FTC has been asked to investigate deceptive marketing practices, anyone believe Sue-Sue might possibly be blogging about the FTC next? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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bump
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Parents helping other parents? Who are these other parents? What are their qualifications besides having experience parenting a teenager? I seem to remember a list of PURE volunteers posted on PURE's website at one time, but apparently it's been removed. Anybody know if the list is available elsewhere?
Parent's Universal Resource Expert’s are parents helping parents. As a parent that experienced and survived a difficult teen, we believe that desperate parents are at high risk of making rash and detrimental decisions in choosing the best placement for their child. Please take a moment to read my story – “A Parent’s True Storyâ€
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Now that the FTC has been asked to investigate deceptive marketing practices, anyone believe Sue-Sue might possibly be blogging about the FTC next? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
She'll say the FTC was "Slandering her on the internet"
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You should go to her website, if you feel like inducing nasueu in a mashochistic bit of self punishment.
She advocates treatment for "teen internet addiction"
is she involved with the turkey lawsuit?
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Has Congressman Miller and the GAO Investigators been given the opportunity to read these SATIRE Blogs written by SUE SUE?
They should be kept informed about the lastest and greatest.
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Has Congressman Miller and the GAO Investigators been given the opportunity to read these SATIRE Blogs written by SUE SUE?
They should be kept informed about the lastest and greatest.
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THE FIGHT AGAINST INTERNET DEFAMATION STRENGTHENS! As attorney's and judges are reviewing these cases, the recognition for action is loud and clear. Fight back - it is your right!
Recently I have personally meet with both a prominent Senator and a Judge. Both were completely astonished at the reckless regard for the truth that lingers on the Internet and agree, it is time to fight back!
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Kind of makes 'ya wonder what this senator and judge would think about these blogs of hers directed at ISAC, two parents who are part of the WWASPS lawsuit she reportedly helped launch, and the other parent who had a child at Whitmore, the troubled program no longer in operation.
:roll:
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Has Congressman Miller and the GAO Investigators been given the opportunity to read these SATIRE Blogs written by SUE SUE?
They should be kept informed about the lastest and greatest.
Don't they have actual work to do?