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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 09:09:48 AM

Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 09:09:48 AM
Now, I am sure this will be deleted. But, somebody is in this system, and is changing peoples posts, and names. They even keep deleting my posts. This is a sad day folks. :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Che Gookin on October 28, 2007, 09:14:33 AM
HELL YEAH!


I DID IT! IT was ALL ME! mwahahahahahahahah!

But don't worry I demodded myself already. You are now officially safe. Anymore claims by CCM Girl and The who are blatant lies.

though I suspect that CCM Girl was put up to posting this by the who in the first place.. but who cares?

Free pass baby cakes!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 09:18:56 AM
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quote="Crash Test Dummy"]HELL YEAH!


I DID IT! IT was ALL ME! mwahahahahahahahah!

But don't worry I demodded myself already. You are now officially safe. Anymore claims by CCM Girl and The who are blatant lies.

though I suspect that CCM Girl was put up to posting this by the who in the first place.. but who cares?

Free pass baby cakes!

What's going on here?
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 09:22:31 AM
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quote="Crash Test Dummy"]HELL YEAH!


I DID IT! IT was ALL ME! mwahahahahahahahah!

But don't worry I demodded myself already. You are now officially safe. Anymore claims by CCM Girl and The who are blatant lies.

though I suspect that CCM Girl was put up to posting this by the who in the first place.. but who cares?

Free pass baby cakes!


What's going on here?

Somebody is in the system changing all kinds of stuff around. Posting things under my name, that I did not write. Modifying them. Deleting them. Basically, doing whatever the hell they want. I say fine, but it just makes this site a fucking joke!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 09:24:59 AM
Stupid ass bitch...nice try pulling a "Who" trying to say it's the admins....

Fuck off & die, program whore!!!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 09:29:31 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Stupid ass bitch...and nice try pulling a "Who" trying to say it's the admins....

Fuck off & die, program whore!!!

I don't even know who the admins are you moron! I don't really care either. I'm not pulling a Who, Who was obviously telling the truth. Now, you're doing it to me? Just because you don't agree with what I have to say? That's real mature!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 09:37:21 AM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Stupid ass bitch...and nice try pulling a "Who" trying to say it's the admins....

Fuck off & die, program whore!!!
I don't even know who the admins are you moron! I don't really care either. I'm not pulling a Who, Who was obviously telling the truth. Now, you're doing it to me? Just because you don't agree with what I have to say? That's real mature!


simple solution.. quote all of her posts for truth and sooner or later she will shut up when she can get away with it all.

if someone was in her account they would have locked her out by now. So obviously she is making it up. Lame..
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 09:40:52 AM
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Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
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Stupid ass bitch...and nice try pulling a "Who" trying to say it's the admins....

Fuck off & die, program whore!!!
I don't even know who the admins are you moron! I don't really care either. I'm not pulling a Who, Who was obviously telling the truth. Now, you're doing it to me? Just because you don't agree with what I have to say? That's real mature!

simple solution.. quote all of her posts for truth and sooner or later she will shut up when she can get away with it all.

if someone was in her account they would have locked her out by now. So obviously she is making it up. Lame..


No, that's what you're going to do next. Jackass. :roll:
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Stupid ass bitch...and nice try pulling a "Who" trying to say it's the admins....

Fuck off & die, program whore!!!
I don't even know who the admins are you moron! I don't really care either. I'm not pulling a Who, Who was obviously telling the truth. Now, you're doing it to me? Just because you don't agree with what I have to say? That's real mature!

simple solution.. quote all of her posts for truth and sooner or later she will shut up when she can get away with it all.

if someone was in her account they would have locked her out by now. So obviously she is making it up. Lame..


keep quoting her she will stop lying sooner or later.

No, that's what you're going to do next. Jackass. :roll:
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 10:48:07 AM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Stupid ass bitch...and nice try pulling a "Who" trying to say it's the admins....

Fuck off & die, program whore!!!
I don't even know who the admins are you moron! I don't really care either. I'm not pulling a Who, Who was obviously telling the truth. Now, you're doing it to me? Just because you don't agree with what I have to say? That's real mature!


Not a whole lot you can do when someone is changing your words or deleting your posts.  I didnt get too much response from anyone publically or privately when I tried to resolve it in the past, except that everyone thought I was lying.

I just feel bad for all the readers who are on the fence about weather or not to log in and post (and may not because of this).  They may have a lot to contribute or gain themselves by posting here........  fornits can be a good source of info sometimes.

Hopefully this will be resolved quickly.


TheWho...
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 11:10:31 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Stupid ass bitch...and nice try pulling a "Who" trying to say it's the admins....

Fuck off & die, program whore!!!
I don't even know who the admins are you moron! I don't really care either. I'm not pulling a Who, Who was obviously telling the truth. Now, you're doing it to me? Just because you don't agree with what I have to say? That's real mature!

Not a whole lot you can do when someone is changing your words or deleting your posts.  I didnt get too much response from anyone publically or privately when I tried to resolve it in the past, except that everyone thought I was lying.

I just feel bad for all the readers who are on the fence about weather or not to log in and post (and may not because of this).  They may have a lot to contribute or gain themselves by posting here........  fornits can be a good source of info sometimes.

Hopefully this will be resolved quickly.


TheWho...

Fuck off, Who... apparently you're the only one having problems with that, if it's even true. And if it were, who really gives a fuck since you try to bullshit people here all the fucking time. It's about time you shut the fuck up. No one cares what happens to you on here! Die!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Not a whole lot you can do when someone is changing your words or deleting your posts.  I didnt get too much response from anyone publically or privately when I tried to resolve it in the past, except that everyone thought I was lying.

I just feel bad for all the readers who are on the fence about weather or not to log in and post (and may not because of this).  They may have a lot to contribute or gain themselves by posting here........  fornits can be a good source of info sometimes.

Hopefully this will be resolved quickly.


TheWho...


You mealy-mouthed weasel dick...No one's hesitating to log in, they don't have to worry about it.  

"They may have a lot to contribute or gain themselves by posting here........  fornits can be a good source of info sometimes."

You sycophant!  Where's the arrogant, smug persona now?  Grovel, punk!  StrugglingTeens is open to you, cock wrangler.  You've got the views Alonzo Woodbury approves of...the"other side" of the issue isn't allowed to represent on ST, so stop bitching, we still hear your noise, and that bad-tempered, immature skank PMSgirl1989.
Title: ABC hurl 2007
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 11:54:04 AM
Quote from: ""some joker who calls hisself TheWho""
I just feel bad for all the readers who are on the fence about weather or not to log in and post (and may not because of this). They may have a lot to contribute or gain themselves by posting here........ fornits can be a good source of info sometimes.

Not too many people are on the fence about "weather" out here in Idaho this morning.  Its shaping up to be another bright sunny day.  Have a good one, duckies!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 12:21:14 PM
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You mealy-mouthed weasel dick...No one's hesitating to log in, they don't have to worry about it.

"They may have a lot to contribute or gain themselves by posting here........ fornits can be a good source of info sometimes."

Ha,Ha,Ha, …… These are great lines, although not something I would use at home, I have been able to use a few of these when a telemarketer calls me.  They are quite effective.

Many here (the daily posters) are use to the flame wars and trying to expose each others identity (photos, location), language, porn posting, in fighting etc.…but for a person (parent, staff) who is lurking and reading and may have a question … may feel not too sure if they should post because of the risk of exposing their computer (which their children/ co-workers  may use also) to potentially being located or identified, passwords being made public…… it’s a really big deal and I have to disagree with you on your comment that they don’t worry.  If there are not defined rules on how posters information is to be handled then many will not log in, in my opinion.

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You sycophant! Where's the arrogant, smug persona now? Grovel, punk! StrugglingTeens is open to you, cock wrangler. You've got the views Alonzo Woodbury approves of...the"other side" of the issue isn't allowed to represent on ST, so stop bitching, we still hear your noise, and that bad-tempered, immature skank PMSgirl1989


You sound really pissed off!!  I wouldn’t come here every day if I didn’t enjoy everyone’s company and pleasant smile, now would I.  I don’t know Mr. Woodbury but if his web site needs balance then someone should help him out.

“Cock wranglerâ€
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Deborah on October 28, 2007, 12:53:48 PM
Interesting morning on Fornits.

Let's play Who's Clues........ ::read:: (Couldn't find a puppy dog foot)

While you have nothing better to do at the moment, why not spend some time rustling up a list of links to where program staff or parents idenitities have been exposed. Don't include Karen and Ottawa- their IP info was taken from ST, as you well know.

If you take the challenge, I'll post links to where program staff have used "their unfair advantage" to out survivors, along with their "issues" for being placed in the program. I'll throw in a few outtings of "disgruntled ex-staff" too. Might even toss in the one in which program staff claimed I lost custody of my son. Fun, fun!!

We can compare notes and see who's really at risk here. Program staff/Parents or Survivors. We all know it's the latter. They take a much greater risk when posting.  

You've been here how many years? And no one knows your identity. Stop with the fear mongering. Your attempts at "manipulation" are boring and futile.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 01:36:50 PM
In growing any business or keeping it successful (which includes databases).  I think one of the keys is having everyone feel comfortable that the site they are posting in is secure.  With the whole identity theft problem going on people don’t want to enter into sites they are not familiar with let along log in and give out their email and other information.

When peoples’ posts are being tampered with here,  some here may feel it is funny, but look at it thru the eyes of someone new and not familiar with site security.  I think it is importation to get as many different sides and point of views as possible posting onto fornits.  

Kids are more likely to be risk takers and sign in no matter what, because they don’t have as much to lose.

Parents and staff have more to risk:  They have their jobs and kids to think of and tend to be more cautious.


If you look at the majority of posters I would say we have more younger people, kids that attended various schools than we do staff and parents (older people).

So in order to balance the scales we need to provide an environment where they feel comfortable to post and exchange information, ideas, get help etc.

So its not just a matter of how many people where exposed or who, but how secure of an environment we create.



TheWho...
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 01:46:38 PM
What is the significance of the puppy dog foot?  I have heard other  people say that before here.

I know a rabbits foot is for good luck.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Ursus on October 28, 2007, 02:01:44 PM
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In growing any business or keeping it successful (which includes databases).  I think one of the keys is having everyone feel comfortable that the site they are posting in is secure.  With the whole identity theft problem going on people don’t want to enter into sites they are not familiar with let along log in and give out their email and other information.

When peoples’ posts are being tampered with here,  some here may feel it is funny, but look at it thru the eyes of someone new and not familiar with site security.  I think it is importation to get as many different sides and point of views as possible posting onto fornits.  

Kids are more likely to be risk takers and sign in no matter what, because they don’t have as much to lose.

Parents and staff have more to risk:  They have their jobs and kids to think of and tend to be more cautious.


If you look at the majority of posters I would say we have more younger people, kids that attended various schools than we do staff and parents (older people).

So in order to balance the scales we need to provide an environment where they feel comfortable to post and exchange information, ideas, get help etc.

So its not just a matter of how many people where exposed or who, but how secure of an environment we create.



TheWho...


Oh my GAWD... You don't even need a friggin' name to register here, and the site tolerates proxies like you wouldn't believe...

Plus, this business has been around for 'bout 40 years or so, and some of those earlier survivors are older than some of the so-called parents here.  Now, those people have potentially lots to lose, being survivors and parents, some with sensitive jobs blah blah blah...

Go back and memorize Deborah's post.  Exactly WHAT are you on your high horse about?  Nobody knows your name, your IP was never posted, and the same could be said about your email 'cept that you just posted it earlier this morning.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 02:12:43 PM
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Plus, this business has been around for 'bout 40 years or so, and some of those earlier survivors are older than some of the so-called parents here. Now, those people have potentially lots to lose, being survivors and parents, some with sensitive jobs blah blah blah...


Good point!!  Most of the posters just seem to be younger, in my opinion, by the way they communicate or maybe because they are talking about their time in some of these schools or wilderness I assume they are talking about recent events.

I do tend to agree that the older you are the more one has to lose.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 02:45:13 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""

Many here (the daily posters) are use to the flame wars and trying to expose each others identity (photos, location), language, porn posting, in fighting etc.…

TheWho...


...Or reveal the true motivation of some posters.  Look for those who stand to profit the most.   Some posters want to derail productive discussions to ensure investments, or compile a risk report for investors looking to buy a dead-on-it's feet program's assets to start a new hellhole.  It's not nearly as simple as you make it sound, Who, there are far more nefarious types lurking here than simple porn posters and flamers.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 03:04:59 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Guest""

Many here (the daily posters) are use to the flame wars and trying to expose each others identity (photos, location), language, porn posting, in fighting etc.…

TheWho...

...Or reveal the true motivation of some posters.  Look for those who stand to profit the most.   Some posters want to derail productive discussions to ensure investments, or compile a risk report for investors looking to buy a dead-on-it's feet program's assets to start a new hellhole.  It's not nearly as simple as you make it sound, Who, there are far more nefarious types lurking here than simple porn posters and flamers.


I haven’t seen many discussions that appeared to be derailed on purpose, other than say Niles (as a sign in person, maybe a guy named luke, a few others) and guests who appear to be just having a good time or trolling.  A lot of late night derailing due to excessive substance usage.  Many accuse me of derailing threads constantly and I have never consciously done this and have fought to keep people focused on the topic.
But as you have stated there are probably many types lurking in the background collecting  information for their personal/financial gain, but I never had a sense that any of them interact or post.  At least that I am aware of.

I think if there is a problem with productive discussions getting derailed like say TB thread, it could be moved to an area that is heavily moderated like TSW has for semi-private discussions.




TheWho...
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 03:10:51 PM
I meant to say the PV thread (Peninsula Village) thread.... (Not TB thread)
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 03:48:10 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Fuck off, Who... apparently you're the only one having problems with that, if it's even true. And if it were, who really gives a fuck since you try to bullshit people here all the fucking time. It's about time you shut the fuck up. No one cares what happens to you on here! Die!

Well said.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 05:34:03 PM
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Fuck off, Who... apparently you're the only one having problems with that, if it's even true. And if it were, who really gives a fuck since you try to bullshit people here all the fucking time. It's about time you shut the fuck up. No one cares what happens to you on here! Die!
Well said.


You all are only interested in people who have had negative experiences in programs. You can't stand to hear anything but negative stuff. Now, you've blown your credibility up all night whacking off to your computers, and changing peoples posts thinking it's so funny, when it's not.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 08:29:53 PM
That's not quite it, CCM. Are you really as dumb as that blonde avatar of yours looks? TheWho attempts to distort facts. I think you do this too. You deny being or being involved with ed-cons... I think you're full of shit. What are doing here? Why are you sooooo concerned with "your side" of "the truth" being heard? I have to wonder if there's something in it for you.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 08:36:23 PM
It's all about the truth baby! I get nothing but a headache from it all though. But, I believe it's important for parents to know the truth. And to definately not believe the majority of things that are posted here. Especially now that I have had personal experiences with my posts being altered, and deleted.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 28, 2007, 08:37:36 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
That's not quite it, CCM. Are you really as dumb as that blonde avatar of yours looks? TheWho attempts to distort facts. I think you do this too. You deny being or being involved with ed-cons... I think you're full of shit. What are doing here? Why are you sooooo concerned with "your side" of "the truth" being heard? I have to wonder if there's something in it for you.


BTW, start naming names of these ed-cons I am involved with?
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 08:57:19 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""Guest""
That's not quite it, CCM. Are you really as dumb as that blonde avatar of yours looks? TheWho attempts to distort facts. I think you do this too. You deny being or being involved with ed-cons... I think you're full of shit. What are doing here? Why are you sooooo concerned with "your side" of "the truth" being heard? I have to wonder if there's something in it for you.

BTW, start naming names of these ed-cons I am involved with?

Fuck if I know, maybe you should tell me?
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 08:58:59 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
But, I believe it's important for parents to know the truth. And to definately not believe the majority of things that are posted here.

Like what things, for instance?

All ears.....
Title: Re: Fornits is a joke! Amen to that!!!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Now, I am sure this will be deleted. But, somebody is in this system, and is changing peoples posts, and names. They even keep deleting my posts. This is a sad day folks. :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:


I heard what's going on here and it's astounding, even for fornits.

This site seems to be infamous for all kinds of antics that I find ethically smarmy.  

I was reporting years ago that my posts were being altered.   Not to mention the documented outing of posters where were told, in the site contract, that they were able to post anonymously.  

In my case the publishing of a phone number and map to my house.

It kind of gives me hope, though, to see what is happening here.  As if evil actually will self-destruct  on its own, over the course of time.

And maybe the high ground would be to just look away from this melt-down process.  

But after everything I've been through because of this site I do admit to a certain level of glee at the shape I see it in now.   A place at which I'd never have posted at all if there had been honest disclosure that posters would be outed at the whim of some slob on the inside of the operation.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 11:24:19 PM
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In my case the publishing of a phone number and map to my house.


Requesting a link.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 11:24:25 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Now, I am sure this will be deleted. But, somebody is in this system, and is changing peoples posts, and names. They even keep deleting my posts. This is a sad day folks. :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:

I heard what's going on here and it's astounding, even for fornits.

This site seems to be infamous for all kinds of antics that I find ethically smarmy.  

I was reporting years ago that my posts were being altered.   Not to mention the documented outing of posters where were told, in the site contract, that they were able to post anonymously.  

In my case the publishing of a phone number and map to my house.

It kind of gives me hope, though, to see what is happening here.  As if evil actually will self-destruct  on its own, over the course of time.

And maybe the high ground would be to just look away from this melt-down process.  

But after everything I've been through because of this site I do admit to a certain level of glee at the shape I see it in now.   A place at which I'd never have posted at all if there had been honest disclosure that posters would be outed at the whim of some slob on the inside of the operation.

I don't hear complaints from anyone but a program shill and someone who likes to stress the fact (?) that "there are some good programs" out there and that this site shouldn't be so "biased," and that a lot of people here are just "making up" stories about the abuse that goes on in many of these programs that we love to talk about here, blah blah blah... if someone's fucking with their posts and that runs them off then I say good riddance to bad rubbish... May they rest in peace! And you can fuck yourself too, ottawa5. It figures you'd chime in on this thread...
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 11:37:32 PM
Apparently you consider requesting that this information be re-posted to be ethical and legal.  

Under that assumption,  then go ahead, by all means request that this be done.  Let's see what happens.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 28, 2007, 11:53:31 PM
Quote from: ""13013""
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Now, I am sure this will be deleted. But, somebody is in this system, and is changing peoples posts, and names. They even keep deleting my posts. This is a sad day folks. :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:

I heard what's going on here and it's astounding, even for fornits.

This site seems to be infamous for all kinds of antics that I find ethically smarmy.  

I was reporting years ago that my posts were being altered.   Not to mention the documented outing of posters where were told, in the site contract, that they were able to post anonymously.  

In my case the publishing of a phone number and map to my house.

It kind of gives me hope, though, to see what is happening here.  As if evil actually will self-destruct  on its own, over the course of time.

And maybe the high ground would be to just look away from this melt-down process.  

But after everything I've been through because of this site I do admit to a certain level of glee at the shape I see it in now.   A place at which I'd never have posted at all if there had been honest disclosure that posters would be outed at the whim of some slob on the inside of the operation.
I don't hear complaints from anyone but a program shill and someone who likes to stress the fact (?) that "there are some good programs" out there and that this site shouldn't be so "biased," and that a lot of people here are just "making up" stories about the abuse that goes on in many of these programs that we love to talk about here, blah blah blah... if someone's fucking with their posts and that runs them off then I say good riddance to bad rubbish... May they rest in peace! And you can fuck yourself too, ottawa5. It figures you'd chime in on this thread...


requesting a link
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 28, 2007, 11:59:18 PM
Anne Hall, speaking legally, since you have practically dared Fornits to repost your personal information, someone is going to do it simply as a response to a dare (with no accompanying incitement) which is not a crime.

Speaking on a purely moral and ethical level, however, you have no rights at all. Even if I were to cut off your hands and feet, lock you in a 3 x 3 x 3 cage, and feed you nothing but dog food and water until you died of old age, with daily rape sessions, it STILL would not match your contribution to brutalizing and humiliating teenagers. Do you not understand this, Anne Hall? Someone - ANYONE - could whip out a baton and snap your leg right in the middle of the street in broad daylight, and that person would be no more in the wrong than if he had stepped on a cockroach. Short of somehow keeping you alive for the next two hundred years and pumping electricity directly into your pain center, there is nothing on this earth that can equal what you are guilty of, which is why Satan and you are going to have a good, long chat when your presence is finally scrubbed from this planet.

Unfortunately, in the United States, the laws prohibiting me from undertaking such things apparently do not apply to those teenagers who their parents have decided are in need of torture. And that is what Fornits' latest sally with the GAO seeks to remedy.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 12:17:50 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Anne Hall, speaking legally, since you have practically dared Fornits to repost your personal information, someone is going to do it simply as a response to a dare (with no accompanying incitement) which is not a crime.

Speaking on a purely moral and ethical level, however, you have no rights at all. Even if I were to cut off your hands and feet, lock you in a 3 x 3 x 3 cage, and feed you nothing but dog food and water until you died of old age, with daily rape sessions, it STILL would not match your contribution to brutalizing and humiliating teenagers. Do you not understand this, Anne Hall? Someone - ANYONE - could whip out a baton and snap your leg right in the middle of the street in broad daylight, and that person would be no more in the wrong than if he had stepped on a cockroach. Short of somehow keeping you alive for the next two hundred years and pumping electricity directly into your pain center, there is nothing on this earth that can equal what you are guilty of, which is why Satan and you are going to have a good, long chat when your presence is finally scrubbed from this planet.

Unfortunately, in the United States, the laws prohibiting me from undertaking such things apparently do not apply to those teenagers who their parents have decided are in need of torture. And that is what Fornits' latest sally with the GAO seeks to remedy.


Anon, you talk very largely---from an unnamed status, that is---never mind though, the powers-that-be have a way of defining who you actually are: that's the beauty of the internet, it's impossible not to leave "footprints" which governmental agencies can always pursue if the interest is great enough.

As to  legal culpability on the part of morons such as yourself: from what I've been told, it is not yet clear whether such posting of personal information is legal or whether it constitutes part of a conspiracy to harm others.  

Maybe you can help define this issue, it might be a good application of your miserable existence.

BTW: whether or not you think you're being "dared" to post something has nothing at all to do with the legality of all this  you sad fool (could your given name be Robert, by any chance?).
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 12:54:29 AM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
It's all about the truth baby! I get nothing but a headache from it all though. But, I believe it's important for parents to know the truth. And to definately not believe the majority of things that are posted here. Especially now that I have had personal experiences with my posts being altered, and deleted.


You are not a program success story!  Your posts prove that, you're a vile, antagonistic vindictive bitch.  If you profited from CCM, thane why are you here?  It seems you would have moved on with your life, not malinger around here posting attacks and then answering yourself anonymously.  I've read about the KoolAde kids, they leave the programs, occasionally go to alumni gatherings, but YOU, PMSGirl - you're in this in a way that shows you're completely brainwashed, or you have a financial interest, like TheWho.  You are the ONLY TWO rabid industry freaks here - wouldn't you be better suited to Alonzo Woodbury's forum?

Who, your argument about parents looking for information here is a little thin - this forum isn't touted as "parent friendly", Facility Questions is.

I started this thread to give you trolls a place to fight with the regular brawlers while we got back to serious business, and it did get your hackles up - unfortunately, PMSgirl and Who got all jacked up.  

PMSgirl - if you can't post without fear your insulting, useless drivel will be altered, you should piss off out of it and head for more tolerant boards.  Seriously, we're sick of you, and you're twice as profane and infantile as the people you go after.

I imagine you at your computer, PMSgirl, and I see a really fat, obnoxious bitch with food smeared all over her face and clothes, with Hershey's Kisses and M&M's lodged unknown in your cellulite rolls and folds, your face red and the lard hanging from where your triceps should be jiggling wildly as you type, foaming at the mouth.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: psy on October 29, 2007, 02:36:19 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Anne Hall, speaking legally, since you have practically dared Fornits to repost your personal information, someone is going to do it simply as a response to a dare (with no accompanying incitement) which is not a crime.

Speaking on a purely moral and ethical level, however, you have no rights at all. Even if I were to cut off your hands and feet, lock you in a 3 x 3 x 3 cage, and feed you nothing but dog food and water until you died of old age, with daily rape sessions, it STILL would not match your contribution to brutalizing and humiliating teenagers. Do you not understand this, Anne Hall? Someone - ANYONE - could whip out a baton and snap your leg right in the middle of the street in broad daylight, and that person would be no more in the wrong than if he had stepped on a cockroach. Short of somehow keeping you alive for the next two hundred years and pumping electricity directly into your pain center, there is nothing on this earth that can equal what you are guilty of, which is why Satan and you are going to have a good, long chat when your presence is finally scrubbed from this planet.

... whoa dude.  What if this woman actually thinks she's helping people, or is it just a ruse, I do not know.  I do know she was in a family Propheet with Mel Wasserman (posted this on ST a while back).  This brings up the interesting ethical question: is a person guilty if they believe they were doing the right thing, and it wasn't against the law (techincally).  What if she believes that programs are the best way to help "troubled" kids (i.e. delete their identities and reprogramming them:
* by creating a bubble for them to grow up in in which through a system of reward and punishment they are given the illusion of choice.  The language is loaded, "consequence" a euphemism for cruel and unusual punishment including but not limited to: food deprivation (enough to live off techincally, but could theoretically kill you long term), social isolation ("bans"), or out and out being verbally blasted to pieces by a firing squad in raps / groups.
* teaching them to be vicious and cruel to each other.  A system of reporting is set up that the communist secret police would be proud of. Why do the "students" (detainees**) participate?  Because they are told they are helping others follow the program and without that they'll die or end up in jail or in a nut house***.  It's NOT a cliché in program.
* [insert a lot more here that you would probably not care to read]
Quote
Unfortunately, in the United States, the laws prohibiting me from undertaking such things apparently do not apply to those teenagers who their parents have decided are in need of torture. And that is what Fornits' latest sally with the GAO seeks to remedy.

Fornits is a discussion forum, not all of us have the same opinions on what is the right course of action (although, I have to admit, the possibility of survivors going after their parents is bound to happen some day).


** Thanks Covergaard
***And I can get several witnesses to testify on what Mike Martin said.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Ursus on October 29, 2007, 07:26:24 AM
Quote from: ""Guest""
...I started this thread to give you trolls a place to fight with the regular brawlers while we got back to serious business, and it did get your hackles up - unfortunately, PMSgirl and Who got all jacked up.


Jes 'cuz I'm anal 'bout facts... I thought CCMgirl started this thread?  No?
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""Guest""
...I started this thread to give you trolls a place to fight with the regular brawlers while we got back to serious business, and it did get your hackles up - unfortunately, PMSgirl and Who got all jacked up.

Jes 'cuz I'm anal 'bout facts... I thought CCMgirl started this thread?  No?


And an observant bear you are!  I got my threads confused - I started the "New to Fornits?  An Advisory" thread.  Forgot which troll-rant I was posting on!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 29, 2007, 11:48:04 AM
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""Guest""
...I started this thread to give you trolls a place to fight with the regular brawlers while we got back to serious business, and it did get your hackles up - unfortunately, PMSgirl and Who got all jacked up.

Jes 'cuz I'm anal 'bout facts... I thought CCMgirl started this thread?  No?


Yep, I did. You're right. But, maybe they can change that too, LOL!!! As far as the description of me, I LOVE IT! Yep, that's me. Is that you Niles peering through my windows giving that information out? Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I think it's wrong for anyone's posts to be altered. I personally could hire someone to hack in here, and treat you the same. But, I will not stoop that low. I just believe that people should be able to express their own opinions without them being deleted, and changed.

I guess you are pretty happy that I was not at those hearings. I would have loved to have given my accounts. You know why? Because, I would be honest. I did not have all good experiences in my programs.

My programs included:

1. Heritage
2. Survival (1 week, almost dying when they got us lost)
3. Orem Psych Hospital
4. Heritage round 2
5. Transferred to Cross Creek Manor

So, I've had a little of this, a little of that. Being that I am in my 30's I am able to look back on my experiences without all my anger, and immaturity.

I'm basically somewhere in between survivors in their early 20's and parents. I'm able to give truthful accounts of my experiences. I didn't offer to be interviewed. They can always find me if they are interested. I won't seek them out.

Why do you find me to be so threatening?
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Joseph W. Gauld on October 29, 2007, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Quote from: ""Ursus""
Quote from: ""Guest""
...I started this thread to give you trolls a place to fight with the regular brawlers while we got back to serious business, and it did get your hackles up - unfortunately, PMSgirl and Who got all jacked up.

Jes 'cuz I'm anal 'bout facts... I thought CCMgirl started this thread?  No?

Yep, I did. You're right. But, maybe they can change that too, LOL!!! As far as the description of me, I LOVE IT! Yep, that's me. Is that you Niles peering through my windows giving that information out? Anyway, it doesn't matter.

I think it's wrong for anyone's posts to be altered. I personally could hire someone to hack in here, and treat you the same. But, I will not stoop that low. I just believe that people should be able to express their own opinions without them being deleted, and changed.

I guess you are pretty happy that I was not at those hearings. I would have loved to have given my accounts. You know why? Because, I would be honest. I did not have all good experiences in my programs.

My programs included:

1. Heritage
2. Survival (1 week, almost dying when they got us lost)
3. Orem Psych Hospital
4. Heritage round 2
5. Transferred to Cross Creek Manor

So, I've had a little of this, a little of that. Being that I am in my 30's I am able to look back on my experiences without all my anger, and immaturity.

I'm basically somewhere in between survivors in their early 20's and parents. I'm able to give truthful accounts of my experiences. I didn't offer to be interviewed. They can always find me if they are interested. I won't seek them out.

Why do you find me to be so threatening?

OOOOooooo, babycakes, I sure don't find you threatening!!!  And, I gotta tell ya, I know what they mean bout getting all jacked up, har de har har har!!!

Why don't you come over here and let me pat that nice big fanny of yours, hmmm?!  I've got a few things I can teach a lil firecracker like  YOU, har har!  I bet I could listen real good all about how crude and misunderstanding these piggy wiggy forniscators here are!

Getting more paternal by the minute,
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 12:18:52 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
I think it's wrong for anyone's posts to be altered. I personally could hire someone to hack in here, and treat you the same. But, I will not stoop that low.

 :roll: Who gives a flying fuck what you think, CCM girl? :rofl:

Go ahead and try hiring someone to hack in here and see how far that gets. No one cares what you and Who-boy have to say.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: TheWho on October 29, 2007, 12:37:46 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
I think it's wrong for anyone's posts to be altered. I personally could hire someone to hack in here, and treat you the same. But, I will not stoop that low.
:roll:

Most of us do, you seem to be the only one who doesnt.  CCM has a right to her point of view, plus she has attended one or more of these prgrams and can give all of us insight, which you seem to lack.

If you have ties or experiences with the industry try to share them with us instead of beating up on people who have knowledge of how these places are run (from the inside).  It would be much more productive and informative for the rest of us.



...
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 12:42:14 PM
But he's not beating up on anyone with knowledge, he's beating up on you and CCM Girl.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: ""...TheWho""
Most of us do, you seem to be the only one who doesnt.

"Most of us"? Nimrod says what?

Your reference to me as "you" (as if you knew, and as if I were the only one here who doesn't like you) reveals what a meddling fuck-wit you are... go play in traffic.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Botched Programming on October 29, 2007, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""

I'm basically somewhere in between survivors in their early 20's and parents. I'm able to give truthful accounts of my experiences. I didn't offer to be interviewed.


So you think your age has any bearing.... Well maybe it does.... Grow up.

Wait until the stepcult brainwashing wears off before you try to shed any light on your experiences

And as far as offering to be interviewed...... You forced your interview on them.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Joseph W. Gauld on October 29, 2007, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: ""Botched Programming""
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""

I'm basically somewhere in between survivors in their early 20's and parents. I'm able to give truthful accounts of my experiences. I didn't offer to be interviewed.
So you think your age has any bearing.... Well maybe it does.... Grow up.

Wait until the stepcult brainwashing wears off before you try to shed any light on your experiences

And as far as offering to be interviewed...... You forced your interview on them.

MMmmm MMmmmm, Babycakes, come over here and force some of yer interviews on me, ya hear?  I'm a REAL good listener, har har har...!  

I wanna hear the TRUTH about your experiences, and give you some MORE experiences that'll have you hollerin' crappaloodle do from the holy rollers 'till the cows come home!!  Yeehaw!!

Ride me, cowgirl!!
Joseph I-am-the-Stallion Gauld, The Educator
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 29, 2007, 08:38:53 PM
Quote from: ""Joseph W. Gauld""
Joseph I-am-the-Stallion Gauld, The Educator


I didn't know you were into WEEN........
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Joseph W. Gauld on October 29, 2007, 09:00:00 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Joseph W. Gauld""
Joseph I-am-the-Stallion Gauld, The Educator

I didn't know you were into WEEN........

Gimmee some more cheese (http://http://www.chocodog.com/chocodog/ween/ween_new/cheese2.mp3), and Kiss Me Kate!

I'm more than "The Man," oh yeah, oh yeah...
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2007, 09:18:36 AM
Quote from: ""Joseph W. Gauld""
Gimmee some more cheese (http://http://www.chocodog.com/chocodog/ween/ween_new/cheese2.mp3), and Kiss Me Kate!

I'm more than "The Man," oh yeah, oh yeah...
Joseph W. Gauld, The Educator

 :rofl:
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: CCM girl 1989 on October 30, 2007, 04:07:54 PM
Too important to let it fall!
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Ganja on October 30, 2007, 04:50:03 PM
Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989""
Too important to let it fall!

Let what fall?  :roll:

Your IQ? No danger of that!  :rofl:
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2007, 04:56:29 PM
O, ye of little discernment...note the strident tone of PMS girl, the bitchy arrogance, self-righteousness and intolerance.  PMS girl is Isabelle Zehnder, and no one has realized it - until now.  How's it hangin', Izzy?
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Ganja on October 30, 2007, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
O, ye of little discernment...note the strident tone of PMS girl, the bitchy arrogance, self-righteousness and intolerance.  PMS girl is Isabelle Zehnder, and no one has realized it - until now.

Literally.. ? lolz
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2007, 05:28:07 PM
YES.
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Ganja on October 30, 2007, 05:33:15 PM
Any matching IP?
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Anonymous on October 30, 2007, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: ""Ganja""
Any matching IP?


IP?  Hell yes, they both have Itchy Pussies...
Title: Fornits is a joke!
Post by: Ganja on October 30, 2007, 06:39:17 PM
Quote from: ""Guest""
Quote from: ""Ganja""
Any matching IP?

IP?  Hell yes, they both have Itchy Pussies...

 :rofl: