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Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform => The Troubled Teen Industry => Topic started by: Anonymous on October 24, 2007, 12:34:36 PM
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Why does Nihilanthic victim status give him the right to judge other program survivors???
Just because Nihilanthic was abused in a program he thinks it's okay to abuse other people who were in the same situation???!!!
What a self centered idiot!!!!
Go get a girlfriend and a life and leave the advocacy to those who really care about kids!!
You aren't helping anybody Nihilanthic!! You need therapy!
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He never went to a program.
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(http://http://a690.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/63/m_1ef76fe1d526b9d6675606f1064de6f1.jpg)
Wahhhhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhhhhh
My name is Niles and I am a loser for life!!
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Wow, somebody is really upset with Niles! It's not me, and I don't think it's Who! Is that really a picture of Niles?
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He never went to a program.
Are you sure about that???
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Yes.
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He says that him self
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It looks like Niles is going through your program, anon.
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It looks like Niles is going through your program, anon.
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah :rofl:
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I thought Niles went to an Aspen program?
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You know he may of attended an Asspen program?
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Shut up CCM CUNT.
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You know he may of attended an Asspen program?
Niles went to the same program as TheWho's daughter. He got kicked out the first day for being too ugly.
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Niles, see how this feels?!! Not too good, huh?
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It feels fucking hilarious FYI. :wink:
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I'm glad you're enjoying it!
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FUCK OFF CUNT
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Keep using that kind of language, I'm sure parents who come here for information just love it.
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I love how someone was trolling for me while I was gone today.
Yanno, I have a job, and I do Jujitsu. Sadly rolling around on the ground with men who want to throw me on my face and twist my joints and choke me is more action than you've gotten in ages after you left CCM... :(
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I'm happy for you Niles. Doing something you love is important.
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I guess you're one of those things then.
::tongkiss::
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Easy, down boy! Why are you at home on the computer? It's obvious you need some human touch. Go out, breathe the fresh air. Go to a club, have some fun!
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I just got done having plenty of that. Then I threw people around and choked them.
I'm done for the night, but thank you. I'll pencil you in sometime later.
If you ask nicely.
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Then I threw people around and choked them.
You have issues.
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Then I threw people around and choked them.
You have issues.
Totally! Pretty soon he will be behind bars, so we won't have to read his crap anymore!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Jiu-Jitsu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_Jiu-Jitsu)
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WTF?
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WTF is Taekwondo.
READ THE ARTICLE??
LOOK UP UFC ON YOUTUBE?!?!??!
STOP BEING BLONDE??
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jiu jitsu... i was gonna take classes for that or some shit....never went... but thought about it...IDK whatever
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bump!
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Then I threw people around and choked them.
You have issues.
:roll:
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We're all there to train how to do it to others and how to defend against someone trying to do it to us.
Its a class... its a martial art and its a fighting style.
You're being an idiot. But, yes, I'd like to choke and throw you around.
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You're emotionally defending programs and relying on argumentative ploys instead of facts to back up your assertions.
Who is the programmed one here? Why not prove what you say instead of give nonsensical generalities and say we're saying kids should be allowed to hurt people?
Hey , you keep asking others, why dont you show some proof?
I've reposted enough, and the burden of proof is on them to prove programs work anyway!
They've had 30 years... what gives? If they're so good, show something!
That also is irrelevant to the issue of ethics, morals, and their rights as children, or the nonsensical model of treating problems by ignoring them and forcing completion of a B.M. Curriculum supplemented with LGATs.
Quite frankly, programs are absurd, and the only thing CCMgirl can pull out of her ass is "they're not ALL bad!" (with no proof, or anything more than a false middle fallacy as a crutch) or "WELL YOU DON'T OFFER ALTERNATIVES WTF YOURE SAYING LET THEM HURT PEOPLE?
Honestly... most people with troubled kids do fine without programs. Statistics don't LIE. There are tons of alternatives, and I don't feel like copying and pasting everything deb has posted for years just for CCM.
Put up, or shut up, and see the sig.
You show us nothing, if you think the schools are ineffective produce some evidence, some data that suggests 20,000 kids a year suffer in these places. Don’t just give me a link to some kid who had a bad experience, I am looking for long term clinical studies that show these schools are ineffective. If there were 20,000 kids a year suffering from these schools, one would think more than 1 or 2 would have raised their hand and said something or went to the police. The majority of these kids move on to some of the top universities in the country..... you spin off and go nuts and start posting porn because a couple of people push your buttons and you dont have the education or grammar to defend your position thru dialog yet in the same breath boast of a 146 I.Q.. (what’s up with that, anyway?)
You have no evidence; you just beat up on people like CCM who tell a different truth than you want to believe.
This is nothing more than a dumping grounds for your anger and hatred, you have no ties to this industry what so ever, so pick a sight like KKK or NAACP to beat up on and leave survivors like CCM and my daughter off your list.
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You're emotionally defending programs and relying on argumentative ploys instead of facts to back up your assertions.
Who is the programmed one here? Why not prove what you say instead of give nonsensical generalities and say we're saying kids should be allowed to hurt people?
Hey , you keep asking others, why dont you show some proof?
I've reposted enough, and the burden of proof is on them to prove programs work anyway!
They've had 30 years... what gives? If they're so good, show something!
That also is irrelevant to the issue of ethics, morals, and their rights as children, or the nonsensical model of treating problems by ignoring them and forcing completion of a B.M. Curriculum supplemented with LGATs.
Quite frankly, programs are absurd, and the only thing CCMgirl can pull out of her ass is "they're not ALL bad!" (with no proof, or anything more than a false middle fallacy as a crutch) or "WELL YOU DON'T OFFER ALTERNATIVES WTF YOURE SAYING LET THEM HURT PEOPLE?
Honestly... most people with troubled kids do fine without programs. Statistics don't LIE. There are tons of alternatives, and I don't feel like copying and pasting everything deb has posted for years just for CCM.
Put up, or shut up, and see the sig.
You show us nothing, if you think the schools are ineffective produce some evidence, some data that suggests 20,000 kids a year suffer in these places. Don’t just give me a link to some kid who had a bad experience, I am looking for long term clinical studies that show these schools are ineffective. If there were 20,000 kids a year suffering from these schools, one would think more than 1 or 2 would have raised their hand and said something or went to the police. The majority of these kids move on to some of the top universities in the country..... you spin off and go nuts and start posting porn because a couple of people push your buttons and you dont have the education or grammar to defend your position thru dialog yet in the same breath boast of a 146 I.Q.. (what’s up with that, anyway?)
You have no evidence; you just beat up on people like CCM who tell a different truth than you want to believe.
This is nothing more than a dumping grounds for your anger and hatred, you have no ties to this industry what so ever, so pick a sight like KKK or NAACP to beat up on and leave survivors like CCM and my daughter off your list.
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The burden of proof is on you. You are claiming the "success" rate. Prove it. We HAVE posted studies that show that the humiliating, confrontational approaches to "therapy" that programs offer is not only ineffective, it actually harms kids. YOU are claiming the "success" rate. Cite your sources. Cite your studies. Please. I'd love......for once......for you to back up something, ANYTHING you say. Just this once, please........show me your "success" rates.
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And the Who has posted a number of studies as well.
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You have shown me no clinical studies, Anne. You claim all programs are abusive. I have posted studies and I have posted information that 99 -100 of all kids graduating from a TBS get accepted to their 1st or 2nd school of choice. The overwhelming majority of kids are successful and you know this, but you are fighting for the 1 or 2 who dont do too well and that is a good cause and I am on your side with this also.
We need to continue to improve the acceptance criteria to insure the right kids get placed into the program which will better guarantee their success.
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And the Who has posted a number of studies as well.
No, he's posted anecdotal stories and a paper written by a college student. That's about it.
Feel free to correct me and post the longitudinal, clinical research that he's cited.
If you make a claim that something is successful, especially with the vehemence that you guys have....I'd think you might want to have something other than stories to back that up.
We're stating things that have happened to us. You guys are claiming ourright "success" rates and "statistics" Burden of proof is on you.
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And the Who has posted a number of studies as well.
No, he's posted anecdotal stories and a paper written by a college student. That's about it.
Feel free to correct me and post the longitudinal, clinical research that he's cited.
If you make a claim that something is successful, especially with the vehemence that you guys have....I'd think you might want to have something other than stories to back that up.
We're stating things that have happened to us. You guys are claiming ourright "success" rates and "statistics" Burden of proof is on you.
I think the majority will disagree. If General motors is making 5 million cars a year and you decide they have a problem with their brakes just because you and a friend had problems, then the burden of proof is on you. They are not going to fund a study to convince a handful of people.
One more thing...I'm a fucking idiot.
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You have shown me no clinical studies, Anne. You claim all programs are abusive.
No, I claim that any program that holds a kid against their will and uses other forceful or coercive tactics abusive.
You do this quite a bit. You might want to seek some sort of help for it.
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And the Who has posted a number of studies as well.
No, he's posted anecdotal stories and a paper written by a college student. That's about it.
Feel free to correct me and post the longitudinal, clinical research that he's cited.
If you make a claim that something is successful, especially with the vehemence that you guys have....I'd think you might want to have something other than stories to back that up.
We're stating things that have happened to us. You guys are claiming ourright "success" rates and "statistics" Burden of proof is on you.
I think the majority will disagree. If General motors is making 5 million cars a year and you decide they have a problem with their brakes just because you and a friend had problems, then the burden of proof is on you. They are not going to fund a study to convince a handful of people.
So, in other words. Ya got nuthin'.
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Thats a completely moronic analogy...
GM doesn't lock kids up for years, isolated completely, forcing them to complete a stupid curriculum of brainwashing instead of treating a problem against their will, abusing them while doing so.
If something happens to someone isolated and with no rights (apparently) someone else has to speak up for them.
Any fucking idiot can see when brakes fail on a car. They run into things. People hidden away from the world can't wreck cars.
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Thats a completely moronic analogy...
GM doesn't lock kids up for years, isolated completely, forcing them to complete a stupid curriculum of brainwashing instead of treating a problem against their will, abusing them while doing so.
If something happens to someone isolated and with no rights (apparently) someone else has to speak up for them.
Any fucking idiot can see when brakes fail on a car. They run into things. People hidden away from the world can't wreck cars.
You have no understanding on analogies, the subject was studies. What an idiot.
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sorry Anne, I have provided clinical studies and information from people who attended college and the studies were backed by the university , yes. I have provided information form a person who won the pulitzer prize....Hmmmm
You can rip those apart if you like. But sooner or later you will need to prove there is a problem with the TBS industry. So far you have a few people who didnt do well, some stories. You bring nothing to the table, no clinical studies...the burden of proof is on you... the schools have already proven their effectiveness.
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You have no understanding on analogies, the subject was studies. What an idiot.
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Thats a completely moronic analogy...
GM doesn't lock kids up for years, isolated completely, forcing them to complete a stupid curriculum of brainwashing instead of treating a problem against their will, abusing them while doing so.
If something happens to someone isolated and with no rights (apparently) someone else has to speak up for them.
Any fucking idiot can see when brakes fail on a car. They run into things. People hidden away from the world can't wreck cars.
You have no understanding on analogies, the subject was studies. What an idiot.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in china.
Children in programs can't tell anyone what is happening to them until they are out.
The basic premise of them is bullshit, which I have already stated.
Nobody can prove they do anything and have had 30 years to do so.
The best anyone can come up with is a student paper that says it has potential, and also basically admitted to using abusive practices in doing so.
FOAD
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Once again Niles you are saying that all programs do this. Not true.
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Once again Niles you are saying that all programs do this. Not true.
>YAWN<
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Once again Niles you are saying that all programs do this. Not true.
Show me ONE
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So the answer is no? Niles was never in a program?
What does Niles base his opinions from?
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interesting point.. what does niles base his opinion on?
Frequently I've found him to be very tedious with his fornits groupthink utterings that seem to be latest in fashion.
LGATs!
LGATs!
Damn you it is about the LGATs!!!!
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Once again Niles you are saying that all programs do this. Not true.
Show me ONE
Waiting...